Why do so many people hate obamacare /b?

Why do so many people hate obamacare /b?

I don't have it because I payed attention in school, got a good job and can afford big boy insurance. Now I have to pay for the people that didn't so they can have it.

Ok little man. Your virginity is safe LOL

My personal experience with it:

Cheapest plan I could get was $300+ a month, and I would only be covered in facilities that were about 60 miles away.

I have private insurance, so I don't even need it. But if I didn't, and also didn't have Obamacare, the annual tax/fine is something like $700.

Supposedly rates went up 500-600% this year, but I haven't verified that.

All of my doctors absolutely hate it as well. I have no idea what changes affect them, but one of them actually retired early over it.

Because it's OK to pay for military bases in every fucking country in the world but not ok to keep your neighbor healthy.

>All of my doctors absolutely hate it as well. I have no idea what changes affect them

because being a doctor is a money making business and when somebody starts messing with your business and profits go down, you get upset.

My dad was paying $250/month for a basic healthcare coverage before Obamacare. It was basically covering traumatic injuries/diseases.

Obamacare comes in, insurance company can't offer that coverage anymore because it doesn't cover everything. Cheapest option my dad can get is $475/month. Dad says fuck that and doesn't sign up, retires, works off the books now.

Yeah, and fucking who the hell wants to go to an upset doctor? I want my doctor to be happy as a pig in shit.

But, but, everyone knows real doctors are in in for the healing, doctors who want to make a profit need to go to prison WTF is wrong with them just heal me and gain satisfaction from it doc, also go to med school for lot's of years and work and study really fucking hard and pay a bunch of money for school just cause you're a good guy doc.

True but doctors should be well paid their professionals. Also 8 years of college is pretty expensive.

I'm a Progressive that voted Jill Stein.

Get the laughs out, couldn't care less.

It's a corporate handout written by the Heritage Foundation and Mitt Romney. It mandates that we all purchase a product from the people that are buying off our politicians.

That being said, getting rid of it without a replacement is stupid.

I doubt Trump will get rid of it - he'll just make some minor changes, and republicans will forever tell the story of how he fixed it.

I don't hate it. I get much better coverage for about the same as I use to pay.

It's usually people who live in States where the GOP governor didn't take the expansion offer and actually try to make it work.

In States where the administrations try to make it work it's doing fine for the most part.

The price spike last year was likely a one-time pricing correction because insurance companies initially made their prices too low.

Oh, and because people have short memories and forget that healthcare costs have been blowing up for long before Obamacare came in.

Before Obamacare, 45 000 people were dying annually from lack of coverage. I'm sure they're quite happy about it.

That said, as with any programme of this size there are problems that need to be sorted out. Fat chance of that now.

this

because i co-own a metal fab business with 2 other people and before obongocare my insurance was $45/mo and nobody was forcing me to pay it, now with bananacare it was like $185/mo last time i checked and im lying to the government about it because im not going to pay $3k/yr for something i dont use. i havent been to the doctor in 15 years aside from yearly checkups

YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU GOT UNTIL ITS GONE

Totally with you there... I don't buy half of the shit that he says, and I'm surprised anyone takes anything he says seriously.

Everyone wants to scream about how he's a liar, but then they take him absolutely seriously about everything he says.

and the reason why the insurance company don't offer the same cover anymore? because they will not make as much profit with it under obamacare. so to keep the profits the same they up the cost of the policy.. that way they keep raking in the money and they can tell people its all because of obamacare.

i doubt Americans will ever see free / government subsidized healthcare, there are to many powerful people making money out of the current system for it to ever change

55% said he isnot the savior

Because the liberal jew media doesnt care about god

As a conservative
God is essential to america and without god america is a seething cesspool of sin waiting for the radical islamists to complete their jihad on the american way of life

On gods way of life

selfish mindset. Kys

Because they've been told to hate it by Fox News.

because im on aca trump can get rid of that commie obamacare

consensus often proves that a majority of people don't know wtf they are talking about

More like it will get patched up a bit, prolonging the inevitable crash or leeching vast sums of tax dollars (which it already does, but i mean waaay waaay more) to sustain it. Then when it finally fucks up rebubs will be blamed for fucking it up, even thought Onegrocare is fucked as it is.
>Huur it needs replaced with something
Like what faggots, it's easy for uneducated faggots to demand a service from the government, that doesn't mean there is a win win situation just because you wish it. If there was a good way to do it what would it have been and why didn't Obama do it?
>INB4 blame the republicans for the one fucking thing Obama really did in the white house and it's a failure

Just an addemdum

Sounds like Mac from always sunny in Philadelphia

Live in Canada. Taxes are high, but incomes are adjusted to accommodate them. Not a bad system. If someone needs something, they just go. Expensive, though, and now people are voting to control how people live their lives and what choices they make because they don't want their taxes to go up. For everyday things, the clinics are better than even having insurance in the USA, but if you require any ongoing care it's hell.

Not as selfish as someone who feels they deserve free shit from others for nothing.

Hey im mac
Wanna touch my diddle

never reproduce holy shit

>55%
if you lie - lie big time, say it was 95%

>THESYSTEMISRIGGED
>RUSSIANHACKERS
>TRUMPISNOTPRESIDENT

Jeez, get over it, you lost. The majority of the people voted for him, that's why he's the president. And allowing illegal immigrants to vote in dem. states was a nice move, yeah...

>Hey, chulio, want to vote?
>Si! Si senior!
>Are you a citizen?
>Si senjor! But me documents, they be in car..
>Good enough, I trust him... who are you going to vote cabaliero?
>O... not trump si senjore...

Are you a citizen of the United States of California?

I like the idea of healthcare being a right, and if it's done right - single payer has a lot of advantages. Obamacare is a mess. The issue I have with single payer is that it opens the door for people to start voting for more controlling laws, because now everyone's health is costing everyone money. Like to smoke, or drink, or anything that could be perceived as potentially costing tax payers more money? Your rights are going to be attacked.

Where did u get this thought? How is this relevant

I think ALL medical staff are overworked including doctors. We need more doctors.

Not even from burguerland

Single payer means less doctors and more patients. That's a given.

Exactly, people don't acknowledge or don't care that
1: it creates a financial imbalance of one form or another, this imbalance could be a trigger to a much larger imbalance, domino effect
2:you lose your fucking liberties cause turns out people don't like paying for other peoples stupid fucking mistakes and lifestyle choices.

Are you a supporter of the United States of California?

a relevant point for a free man.
I can already visualise it

>MUHGUNKKKONTROL
>BECAUSE OF MUH OBONGOCARE
>GUNS SHOOT PEOPLE AND WE SPEND TAX DOLLARS
>BAN GUUUNS

The only reason there aren't more doctors is that the AMA is blocking it. Doctors dont want more doctors because then they get paid less.

Its literally doctors that are killing people who are uninsured because of cost.

They hate Obamacare only because it has the word Obama in it. Nothing more.

Exactly. It's a hidden issue with single payer that is really bothering me now that I live in Canada. I was a huge proponent until that started becoming visible to me.

expensive as fuck and poorly implemented.
get rid of the middle man, namely the insurance company's. they are raking in the big bucks because of this bill

Umm, I'm Canadian - you idiot.

Australia here, we are the same here in some respects, tax is high but so are incomes. healthcare is entirely free here though and if you need ongoing care, thats free and easy to get also. people pay for private health basically so they can get a private room and be seen a little faster.

No, its just funny to see trumpfags mad they make me cringe with all those meme they are the same than those liberals cucks talking stupid shits about hillary

No, they are literally not allowed to offer that minimalist coverage anymore because the ACA stipulates what all plans must cover as a minimum.

>something i dont use. i havent been to the doctor in 15 years aside from yearly checkups
I'm never gonna get old either. If you're born debilitated, you should just die like nature intended.

>because I payed attention in school
>payed

You tellem buddy, i mean its in the bible god said let there be guns and thats what they are. These liberal cucks trying to take my guns make me so mad id almost be vulnerable to being the subject of trolling....

Agreed but it is not stupid
the premiums are garbage and saying more people are covered thanks to it is extremely disingenuous because the uninsured penalty is even worse

I'm not interested in a system where I the young and healthy must subsidize the old only to become old myself and not have the system be there

that said employer insurance needs to go, its a bullshit tactic to keep wagecucks cucked and desperate for the work (or else their family becomes uninsured) and its a dumb excuse to keep pay low

You don't have a right to the work product of other people!e. I'm not sure how anyone ever thought they did.

Question from a non-american:
-what determines the amount you pay for Obamacare? Your income, your taxes?
-how much does it cost on average for a single white man?

because they are white

Because it was a lie hatched by the Democrats to ultimately implement socialized medicine from the beginning. Unless that's your goal too, the law is a disaster.

I liked Australia, when I was there. It was a lot better than Canada - though they have similar systems? I'd like to find out why, tbh. I think that the food, overall, is better and healthier there. That's my take, anyway. Here in Canada we import a lot of the mass produced stuff from the USA. In Australia it's all, mostly, made in Australia. I, really, loved the freshness of the food there, etc. I just don't think that's possible here in North America.

Because they've been told to.

So what? Force doctors to provide their services at gunpoint? That's the response you get when you try to force price ceilinbgs on peoples services.

Because everyone is forced to have it and if they don't they incur stiff income tax penalties that increase by a surmountable amount every year. Not everyone can afford it and being forced to pay for it is bullshit.

Too much cuz the jews are always tryna force me to pay to teach niggers evolution!

God left this country long ago but trumg gon bring it back tell you what

Ausfag here. I don't understand America at all

My wife spent two years having cancer treated and I never spent a dollar. Noone gets upset about it and shit just works.

It's the thing, private insurance companies have actually driven the price of healthcare so high in the USA that single payer isn't possible. It has to be slowly driven down to be able to do it. The thing is, when you do that you make a lot of people mad whose job it is to save lives.

Using Obamas argument.
>people that don't like me don't like me cuz dey racist or cause they listen to racists, i'm the first blackity black pres therefor my words and actions are cannon. No ones opinions matter cause i'm always right, why can't Republicans understand that?
It almost seems like he really believes this but i think he's to smart for that. He just says it because he knows people like you eat it up.

yeah because they were selling joke policy's that didn't really cover you for shit. its the money grabbing insurance companies that set the prices. so now they sell you the new minimum for even more money, but it costs them nothing more to provide it.. and then say sorry, the government has made the cost go up.

we need to get rid of obummacare, im insured thru the affordable care act, much better

I'm Canadian, and I do not mind paying for healthcare. I mind it less than paying for military welfare bullshit.

When I was poor, I didn't pay, and I knew I'd be taken care of. Now I pay, but I still know I'm taken care of, and there are fewer poor, sick, desperate people to rob me.

>I never spent a dollar
inb4 tax replies

No? Allow more people to become doctors so the cost goes down

Them liberals will never understand the sophistication of conservative politics because jew niggers have hypnotized them using their jew propaganda

yeah, my 2nd baby was premature and needed special care for a while. the bill was over $42,000. i just signed it and walked away not owing a cent.

Lets make everyone doctors!

In Canada it's like that, to an extent, but the system here is so overloaded that it's pretty slow. Here in Quebec I'd say it's almost broken, depending on what issues you have. The USA, before Obamacare, was just odd. If you had insurance, you got over-covered. Doctors just throw pills at you, you don't ever get better. It's a gimmick half the time. Something serious, though? Whether you have insurance or not, you go to the hospital. If you didn't have insurance they would just put a medical bill against your credit. Most poor people have bad credit, anyway, so whatever? Now it's more complicated. The problem is mostly that people are having to pay, noticeably, out of pocket instead of having it just get absorbed and ignored in the overall tax brackets.

If your neighbor needs it, then you probably do too.
Welfare nigger pls go

>joke policies

That you didn't have to buy, before.

Because socialism is a cancer we need to kill

As long as you're not a retard in America, its the same way. We just don't cover people too retarded to figure out our system.

I was gonna point it out too, but OP is probably a fag enough that they did it on purpose, so not gonna bother doing what you did just now lel

In1973 jimmy carter, a LIBERAL president approved project MK-ultra, a cia expirement that focused on mind control.

In 2017, zombified jew niggers roam the entire east coast of the continental US looking for more welfare checks from satan

yes.. its called a free market

the arbitrary limit on the number of doctors is driving up cost. Think there should be a limit on the number of cleaners so cleaners get paid more in the future? Of course not.. makes no sense.

They are paid well. The problem is that in 'Murica they are paid TOO much, your medical costs in murica are WAY too expensive per capita. This is what greed does, murica. ENJOY.

This.
Obamacare fucks the middle class who contribute so much to the economy, so yung "welfare" tyrone can get treated for his bullet wounds to live another day of being supported by the Gov' and not paying child support.

Again, the big issue I have here in Canada is the tendency for people to start voting to take away people's rights because they may impact the bottom line when it comes to healthcare. It's a real thing that's happening. In Australia, it's so expensive to own and operate a car, it's insane. $400 tickets for going less than 10km/hour over the speed limit, $600+/year for registration, it's pretty insane.

well that only worked out for if you never needed medical care ..the moment you did you would have been screwed without insurance.

"Not a retard" means you were lucky enough to be born outside the lower strata. I know that there are people that rise up, but they are exceptions that prove a rule.

OR because or premiums sky rocketed because of it. Shit that's not even the worst part. Now most people have a deductible. A 5 to 12 k deductible. I hate it because I pay $800 a month for insurance I can't use because I can't afford the deductible.. before Obamacare I paid $200 a month for a family of for with no deductible.

HEWILLNOTDIVIDE.US

So don't speed. Easy.

no, you walk out with bad credit ..so you will never get a loan for a house, car, anything.

Yeah, but if the govt didn't put ceiling on doctors services, they wouldn't be blocking the # of doctors. You want a free market but are only complaining about one side.

>jews
>nigger evolution
>god
>trumg

Thank you for your contribution, your time must be valuable and you sharing it with us is quite a blessing.

Yeah, well, over here people wouldn't take to kindly to that :D. This is what it comes down to. Calmly accepting government controls, because they are for 'the greater good'. That calm and cool acceptance is not something people in the USA like or stand for.

Hey buddy im not gay, being gay is a sin. So whatever buttfuckery you and your lineral jew nigger buddies are doin you keep that shit in canada faggot

Free market or not, there will never be as many doctors as cleaners. Not that many people can actually learn all the things required to be a doctor.

all of my wat

Too obvious, friend.

I'm not saying there should be an equal number of doctors and cleaners. Wtf.

I'm saying the market forces that balance supply and demand get fucked by the arbitrary limit on the number of doctors (supply), driving up cost. Extremely un-american

Looks like a terrible Left wing shill doing a horrible job of impersonating an evil crazy right wing person, sigh. You're really doing a poor job there :/. Though I'm sure that the crazy Dems in this thread are eating it up.

communist logic
Comrade Stalin turns out group A does not like being adversely effected to provide for group B. And they are a little bitter that all communism glorious promises don't add up and they're doing more work for less money.
Stalin:
>load up the train comrades if there is no sugar to give the horses than you must use the whip