Why don't we have supersonic air travel (e.g. Concorde) anymore?
Why has the record for the fastest plane ever built (SR-71 Blackbird) been unchanged since the 1960s?
Why is the military still using 60+ year old B-52s when we would never have used the Wright flier during the Vietnam war which was also by then 60 years old?
Why do we no longer have reusable space ships (Space Shuttle) anymore?
Why haven't we been on the moon since 1973?
Why haven't any humans left Earth orbit since 1973?
Why is the Saturn V the most powerful rocket ever built when it hasn't been used in 45 years?
why can't op stop asking all these fucking questions?
Julian Peterson
they probably have some shit we dont know about I'm sure.
Connor Cox
We don't have the Concorde anymore because it was more expensive to use and maintain them than they created profit.
Kayden Williams
>Why do we no longer have reusable space ships (Space Shuttle) anymore?
The Shuttle was extremely complicated and nothing short of miraculous.
Ethan Allen
I hope pic answers at least one of your questions.
Asher Perry
Also it's about to get much much worse, OP.
NASA is officially going to be scrapped. Absolutely no more federal tax payer dollars wasted on space science and aeronautic research anymore. If anyone wants that to happen, it's up to private companies.
Levi Bennett
Money
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Josiah Edwards
lol thinking space exists
Jeremiah Jackson
>Why don't we travel like this anymore? cost >Why don't we have supersonic air travel (e.g. Concorde) anymore? cost >Why has the record for the fastest plane ever built (SR-71 Blackbird) been unchanged since the 1960s? because speed doesn't offer protection anymore >Why is the military still using 60+ year old B-52s when we would never have used the Wright flier during the Vietnam war which was also by then 60 years old? because it is the perfect aircraft for the job, for other situations we have modern planes >Why do we no longer have reusable space ships (Space Shuttle) anymore? because it is not cost efficient (NO SpaceX reusability won't be cost efficient as well) >Why haven't we been on the moon since 1973? no reason to >Why haven't any humans left Earth orbit since 1973? leave the orbit to go where ? >Why is the Saturn V the most powerful rocket ever built when it hasn't been used in 45 years? because we don't need it
Colton Robinson
Are you my parents? I can't talk about space without them getting angry at me and telling me the sky is just a type of actual physical television screen and what we see is an image.
Christopher Green
Less space and luxuries to make airfare more reasonable and accessible to the common person.
Concorde was notoriously loud, expensive, and underused. It would be great in modern society, but takeoff would have to be limited to low-population areas.
Faster=/=better
B-52s are sufficient for their needs. Why fix what isn't broke? Why spend the money and the resources on war equipment when there's no war?
We do. SpaceEx just had a successful landing of an engine that left the atmosphere and returned back to Earth.
Money and why should we? What more would we learn by walking on the moon again? We went there several times, came back, and now there are robots on the moon doing the same thing we did when we were there. Except they don't need food, sleep, socialization, training, oxygen, etc.
Why should we? No really, what reason would we have for leaving orbit other than scientific venture? This shit costs exponential amounts of money, and if you can't guarantee that the men you send up will come back alive, much less come back with anything valuable enough to fund the expedition.
Why do they need to?
Juan Allen
Are your parents psychosis?
Jose Gray
SpaceX reusability is already cost-efficient.
You can, right now, phone them up and book a cheaper launch on a re-used rocket.
Jayden Wood
No, SpaceX has not reused any of its rocket engines, and has not demonstrated the overall system's feasibility. Recovery=/=Reuse.
Jack Hernandez
>Why don't we have supersonic air travel (e.g. Concorde) anymore?
Do you not remember how loud those booms were? I wasn't even that close to an airport, maybe ~20 miles and I was so happy when they got rid of those fucking planes so I didn't have to hear that scary explosion every day out of nowhere. For a while I was convinced I was they were the reason I was going to die of a heart attack.
Everyone hated them.
Andrew Garcia
Bullshit, musk had not reused any of those falcon engines, each one has been built for the job at hand. All the recovered engines are in a hanger somewhere because they are not safe for reuse. Musk has not demonstrated his systems feasibility, and is running his space program at a loss.
Retard, 10% cost reduction for 30% payload reduction.
They haven't even demonstrated that they are able to reuse the booster reliably.
+ their launch costs are not representative since they include their funding.
Love when retards fall for their tweets and pr.
Question to you IF it is the cheapest launch why are there still other LSP'S on the market ?
SpaceX has almost no impact on the market go to bed reddit/futurology.
Their reliability is the lowest on the market they are never on shedule their orbits are off way to often.
Talk to someone who is as dumb as you next time ;)
Anthony Young
>Do you not remember how loud those booms were? neither does the people that lived naer the airport, because the thing did not make any more sound than a standard plane.
Thomas Brown
>SpaceX reusability is already cost-efficient.
They have never reused a stage retard.
Levi Moore
Because TSA.
What does it matter taking off 3 hours from a 6-hour flight, when you still have to get to the airport (which is in the middle of nowhere) two hours (or more!) before it even leaves the ground, and then have to take another hour or more to travel 200 yards to the taxi rank when you get there?
There are no terrorists. The TSA just wastes everyone's time. Trump's looking to cut federal spending, he should sack the lot of them.
John Anderson
Hyper-religious. I'd get in trouble if it rained, because they would pray for a beautiful, warm sun shine-filled day and when it didn't happen it was because I didn't pray hard enough and fucked it up.
Julian Scott
They've already sold OIs on re-used stages.
Isaiah Scott
The profit motive represents a regression to the mean
Anthony Phillips
Sold
Doesn't mean they launched it right?
So till this point a claim like verything elon does.
In the end reliability will go down even more.
Bentley Hill
That's the reduction for giving them their rocket back *to re-use*, not the reduction for taking a re-used rocket.
RTFA.
Hudson Roberts
are you me ? my parents told me the same thing, but it's not because they're religious, it's because they believe in flat earth and reptilians
Ethan Wood
Short answer: Money Long answer: Money + Reliability
Mason Morales
No that's exactly the cost reduction the customer gets for using a reused stage.
Do your research moron.
Lucas Green
They get paid either way, and you've offered no evidence that it won't work.
Liam Wright
You don't have you facts straight. SpaceX has scheduled the first Falcon9 reuse sometime this fall. We will see if he manages to blow this one up as well.
Jordan Richardson
>Why don't we travel like this anymore?
YOU never traveled like this, ever. The cost of an airplane ticket was horrendous back then, and it was only when airlines began packing passengers like sardines that poor people could start flying too.
I can still travel like this because I can at least afford business class where you're treated like a human being and not cargo. And honestly, with power, internet connection, and bed-chairs things are even better.
Robert Sullivan
hory shet
Brayden Diaz
Can't be, because the payload reduction comes from the weight of the landing gear, the fuel required to do the landing, and the constraints of having to launch to somewhere the rocket can then return from.
There's no payload reduction just for launching on used goods; that's retarded.
Robert Rivera
Burden of proof.
Evidence shows (THE FUCKING SPACE SHUTTLE) That it is very very very cost intensive to reuse a rocket engine, they either spend a lot of money to make sure it flies reliable again or thei just refly the stage and their failure rate will get worse (they already have the worst reliability on the market).
Oh look how they are taking over the market for commertial launches with their low prices.
Haha SpaceX is a joke just like Elon, educate yourself on what is really important for LSP's it is being on shedule and being reliable SpaceX performs horrible on both of these parameteres.
Michael James
The launch of a 1st stage that you are trying to reuse has 30% less payload so yeah that makes the F9 to small for about 40% of the GTO payloads.
Elons initial claim was we will reuse a stage 100 times so you have 100 launches with reduced payload capacity and reliability.
They can't even launch their shit without reusing them so it will get even worse.
Gotta love american Elon shills.
Luke Rivera
Yeah, burden of proof.
You need to demonstrate that their customers, and their customers' underwriters are all retarded, using evidence more compelling than "I'm user-san and I say so with words".
Satellites are expensive, and insurance companies are not stupid.
Bentley Thomas
>There's no payload reduction just for launching on used goods; that's retarded.
If you don't reuse the rocket the whole system is flawd.
Yes that's retarded either 100% performance and you lose the stage or 30% less GTO payload.
Jonathan Gonzalez
What exactly are you disagreeing with?
If you follow the thread up, you'll see the assertion was that the payload reduction is for it being a stage you're trying to recover (not a stage that *has already been* recovered and is currently being re-used), and far from refuting that, you just went and stated it.
Ayden White
Musk has managed to blow up 10% of his payloads now. He will have to factor his failure rate into the costs of launching for insurance purposes. This will only increase costs.
I took Musk a little more serious before he went full Bernie Madoff and started pitching the credulously inefficient hyperloop.
John Reed
NERDS
Wyatt Rivera
No it's not.
Nothing is 100% reusable and the idea that it is or should be is absolutely ridiculous.
Most people consider 747s reusable, yet 100% of the fuel you put in them is reacted with oxygen and dispersed in the atmosphere.
Jayden Brooks
Zuck was retarded for trusting Musk with his satellite. Now he has 200 million bucks he has to write off.
Oliver Green
He has always been a fraud and a loser, the only business that was doing fine was paypal he was basically lucky (like many people during the dotcom bubble).
I will never understand how so many people fall for this fraud.
>The answer is that the market isn’t the one to decide, despite the fact that SpaceX is apparently a private company. Out of all of SpaceX’s contracts, NASA is documented to contribute to 85% of SpaceX’s revenue. Additionally, the number of direct governmental subsidies (without accounting for tax credits) climb up to about $5.5 billion dollars and is also peppered with $200 million dollars in varying governmental contracts. These estimates do not even account for the money Musk funnels in from SolarCity and Tesla, his two other ineffective companies which receive $4.9 billion dollars in government support by themselves.
Without the help of the government, SpaceX would not have been able to fail as many times as it has. Private investors would not tolerate Musk’s reckless mismanagement, and the company would’ve went belly-up years ago. But, since SpaceX is essentially a built-for-government company, Capitol Hill will continue to allow Musk to waste taxpayer dollars on futile launches and projects.
Levi Nguyen
It's all about the Benjamins.
I work in Aerospace and defense manufacturing.
We can build you anything you want. Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?
Zachary Fisher
They reused one on their latest launch.
Aaron Lopez
>made so many correct decisions he can afford to write off $200,000,000 >he's the one that's retarded I'm sure everyone will recognise your hidden genius someday, user.
Thomas Hernandez
Musk is finding out that being a business man with rose colored glasses does not trump being a rocket scientist. Who would have thunk it?
It would not be so cringeworthy if Musk didn't think he himself could do better then all of Nasa for the last 60 years, and then all of you idiots believed him! Its Twilight Zone levels of batshit ignorance that leaves the levelheaded among us dazed and speechless.
Ryder Robinson
Sonic booms are loud as fuck. Concord never made money because it could only go supersonic when traveling over water.
Logan Lopez
No they didn't stop lying.
Jacob Rodriguez
Oh goody! You're one of them.
Thomas Fisher
One of the people that rely on facts and trust reality over twitter postings?
Show us the evidence, they have never reused engines nor a first stage.
Sucks to be a retard like you I guess.
Hunter Adams
Falcon Heavy is 3 years late now.
How are we gonna ignore this fact?
Oh never mind we don't need the heavy we will go even bigger and go to mars in 2 years anyway.
We have reached a time where spacetravel and such new technologies are a waste of resources. We should as humanity progress in humanity and give every single human a prosperous life on earth. Donate for Africa please
Alexander Jenkins
I know, it is not even close to a real launch.
And btw it doesn't mean layed on the side most rockets stand up while doing a test fire only srb's are layed on the side.
Grayson Turner
The biggest lie America has told the world is that human beings set foot on the moon, Nasa never answered the tens of questions about things that simply do not add up, congrats to you if you think humans have been on the moon, you have been brain washed. inb4 tinfoil.
Colton Baker
Can you provide facts that we don't live inside the eye of a giant?
Burden of proof < google it.
Andrew Hall
I think someone told me they saw a Tesla on the road once, so that's at least something.
Jackson Lee
This user gets it
Gabriel Stewart
Why hasn't Russia refuted the claims, they never said that America never landed and that the moon landing was faked.
Evan Murphy
because the US is fucking broke
Owen Moore
I would like to see shitloads of probes and great satellites, but putting people up there is largely inefficient.
Jeremiah Moore
b-but muh greatest nation on the urth
Connor Mitchell
Some day we will have to leave this planet so no it is not a waste of recources.
We could cut down on military funding.
Cooper Perry
why does russia need to refute anything? the idiots probably believed it too, the footage was a pretty good fake for the time, it falls apart nowadays even a uneducated eye can see discrepancies.
Austin Mitchell
The same reason why no one makes T sar bombs as a general nuke
Leo Bennett
and what if russia refutes it its suddenly not true, like russia is the universal holder of truth or something.
Dominic Edwards
You are presenting your opinion as fact. You need proof to do that.
Otherwise that's just like, your opinion.
Juan Parker
>Why has the record for the fastest plane ever built (SR-71 Blackbird) been unchanged since the 1960s I guarantee you there is a faster one being used that we don't know about
Anthony Hughes
the B52 is being phased out by the B2 stealth bomber
Owen Perry
so yes
Evan Collins
Don't be a fucking flat-earther moron. There is all sorts of evidence of man being on the moon that can be seen through a telescope. Fucking idiot.
NASA didn't answer questions because they were stupid fucking questions that anyone who's ever picked up a book could answer.
Levi Carter
SpaceX is a fucking joke. Elon Musk is a piece of garbage shit.
Jaxson Rodriguez
You think the rival in the space race wouldn't claim that the moon landing was fake if there was the tiniest bit of evidence that it was.
No but it was the rival superpower and had a lot of prestige on the space race. and they basically went "yep we lost they landed on the moon".
Another evidence that proves that humanity landed on the moon is the mirrors that we bounce lasers of to measure various shit.
Adrian Ward
Why dont you calm down you fucking faggot.
Elon musk is exactly the kind of person to move humanity forward, so get back in ya faggot hole you piece of shit.
Christian Lopez
Please explain why you think that.
Kayden Lewis
>ou need proof to do that. No you need to proof that they reused a stage.
You didn't google burden of proof right?
It is the basis for making claims I can't refute a negative.
If they had reused a stage they would have probably published it right?
Just admitt that you were wrong and that you don't understand the basics of logic and we are fine.
You could also kill yourself that would be fine as well.
William Cruz
the money that would have produced new jets, concorde's etc. all went into the CEO's pockets.
NASA has been significantly defunded in the last 15 years by the GOP. Reagan's 'star wars' cost billions, and stopped exploration of the moon.
Jacob Mitchell
So what you're saying is your opinion needs no proof, but if anyone disagrees they need proof?
I mean when BBC airs a documentary about the moon landing being fake and then scientifically literate people scientifically prove that the moon landing was fake there is nothing more to talk about, you are a fucking idiot, you are the one that is a brainwashed sheep, american probbaly, thats the moral problem with such a lie, you spread it enough, enough people spew bullshit being in such a backward state of mind with 0 critical thinking that in the end retards like you swallow it up so fast its unbelievable. Kill yourself, retarded brainwashed zombie. also nobody was talking about flat earth, you piece of shit.
Tyler Martin
> ;)
Get raped.
Ian Harris
yeah because landing a mirror on the moon is something super hard to do without humans needing to place them themselves on the moon, jesus fucking christ your whole life is a lie dude, wake the fuck up
David Hill
>leave the orbit to go where ? mars
Henry King
Stop promoting your homo video rants.
Noah Bennett
(((They're))) behind it.
Jace Roberts
This is a nother guy, but hey no he is not moving humanity forward he does nothing but milking government funds.
Progress is done by serious companies not by frauds like Elon.
Aiden Butler
What about ghost, bigfoot and aliens there are all manner of documentaries and scientist stating that all of those are real. heck there are scientists that claim that you can live on sunlight alone, does that make it true?
Jackson Thompson
Holy shit are you actually insane?
You claimed they reused a stage, but there is no single bit of evidence for your claim.
Why should I believe you ?
Now you shift the burden of proof on me, how pathetic.
what a loser
Benjamin Kelly
Exactly what I expected when you have no arguments on your side.
Elon is a pathetic loser and SpaceX has not taken over the market like he claimed.
deal with it ;)
Jayden Campbell
yep, you try and bring things that have nothing to do with the moon landing we were talking about, 10/10 would argue with again. im done with yall, this lie has been spread so much everyone just takes it as it is, we, the humans, lost in this instance, Americas lie was too powerfull this time around. not even gonna try and argue with americans against it because you probably hear shit about the moon landing being legit every day, you are in a too deep of a lie you probably won't even try and see the proof that it is fake, because you it would fuck you in the head when you will realize something you have always believed as true is a lie, but thats america in a nutshell for you.
