If i kills someone it will most likely be murder and one would be charged accordingly
If i physically impair someone (mutilate or otherwise) there are most likely a suitable penality
But if i find a way to lessen the cognitive abilities of someone to the extent that they are as good a neutralized threat
Can i be charged for anything? im pretty convinced that there are no particular charge in most countries that reflects such a crime, and proving it would be even more difficult
Specify how you would intend to do that, because unless you're shooting retard rays our of your eyes, I can't frankly think of way that would lower someone's cognitive ability without requiring some kind of sustained interaction--and depending on that interaction, there more than likely exists a felony category that could be considered applicable by a judge.
Kayden Perez
hypothetically there are an array of possible procedures that does not leave traces that are easily diagnosed
consider for example rotary lobotomy, of course this is not a method that would be prevalent but let just pick it as a thought experiment
you would have an itti bitty entry hole inside the nose canal, but to prove the rest you would have to put someone in a cat scan, not very likely just for a criminal trail
at least not in some countries
Blake Bailey
Pretty sure you just described assault with bodily harm
Charles Brown
true... but as i said it was a thought experiment
lets say you find an alternative way
and the major thing is, what is the punishment for bodily harm in contrast to first degree murder?
Carson Reyes
but to put them under long enough to do something without anyone seeing you, wouldn't you be abducting them?
Brandon Bennett
that would of course be one of the necessary procedures
but if personality was altered would anyone other than the victim be interested in pressing charges? people are not likely to take up a fight for someone who is impaired who cannot remember and will change his/her testimony at any given time
Ayden Clark
You could probably class that as assault w/ intent to cause grievous bodily harm, or att. murder.
Also, if you patient was not retarded before trial and is now retarded, you can bet the first thing they're going to do is look for toxins in the bs. After that, they'll absolutely scan the brain.
Ethan Jenkins
Here's the thing: serious offenses against other people, in 99% of cases, are actually considered offenses against the state--and regardless of the mental condition in which the defendant is left, the state will still move to prosecute.
Nathaniel Carter
Lol u would be dealing with Psychological torture charges
Jose Murphy
>friend of mine goes to a car dealership to buy a car >car selesman takes him out for a ride in it >sporty-ish car so salesman pushes it a little to show performance >crashes the car >friend suffers serious head injury >in coma for weeks >major surgery >takes about a year to fully recover >he's not the same person as he was before >different personality >temper tantrums >violent >heavy drinker >car salesman only prosecuted for dangerous driving
Should've at least been manslaughter. Cos the guy who got in that car with him never got out again.
Grayson Martinez
to be honest i have a hard time seeing that being done in some countries
you seem very intelligent and also knowledgeable in law
You need so many details in order to have a solid case
first of you need to prove the abduction (if one is required) the law enforcement would need to consult and expert and what kind of statement would that expert make? and would the prosecutor let alone the jury have the ability to comprehend it? what would they actually see in a brain scan?
Adam Allen
my point exactly...
Michael Cook
was there any form of contract? i would think that by getting in the car your bud relinquished some of his rights to sue or prosecute. if not, should of lawyered up
Joseph Reed
a lesion/irregularity
the take home message, is man up and punch them in the face. youre over thinking this one
Levi Powell
In the US this would likely fall under assault. That might sound strange, but remember that assault is more broad than, say, battery.
Isaac Baker
It depends on what country you are in friend
this is why i brought this discussion up
I have a friend who was scheduled for an operation at a hospital, there was a malpractice and her urine canal was compromised, she complained but were still sent home, where she suffered a major infection and a busted urine bladder, 3 more surgeries were needed to correct this, the hospital altered her journals prior to investigation, couldn't really prove that much, physically impaired forever by scars on belly, the hospital was given a $1000 fine
Cooper Price
I don't think so. In fact, I doubt it. He showed up, inquired about a car and they went for a drive.
He doesn't really remember the whole day, but the Salesman said he put the accelerator to the floor to show the pickup. They were both laughing when he clipped the curb.
Jayden Howard
>They were both laughing when he clipped the curb. At least the salesman says so?
Aiden Harris
l not necessarily the driver would have to been impaired or something along those line think of it this way.u and ur family are out for a drive u lose control of ur car hit a tree and your wife dies in the accident do the cops lay charges if they find out u sober and there was nothing u could do to avoid the accident no the realizes it was a accident so no one is at foult
Evan Ross
For the purpose of really entertaining this whole thing, let's lay down some groundwork just for the purpose of clarifying. > This happens in a country with a competent legal system and enough resources to approximate the method of incapacitation. > The victim is essentially a vegetable and unable to submit testimony--however, if a professional were to look, there are verifiable signs of (let's just generalize here unless you have a preferred means) trauma in the frontal lobes consistent with what would be expected in a lobotomy, even if there are no easily spotted external signs of entry/surgery/etc. > You are still in the country and were directly involved in every step of the crime. > There will exist some evidence to tie you to A) the kidnapping B) the surgery or materials purchased therein C) the release of the victim D) all of the above E) something I'm missing. > You have no prior contact with the victim and this was a spur-of-the-moment crime
Let's just try this out: since we're walking through a crime now, where do you want to dump your victim?
Jace Brooks
That's what he said in court. He did do time for it. But he was out before my mate woke from his coma.
Cameron Collins
again, admittance into the hospital may of implied some sort of immunity for the institution. And yeah, malpractice laws and regulations are going to vary largely from country to country. but if your friend didnt try fighting it and working within the legal system, you can expect little repercussions for the hospital. Not saying i agree with the concept, but paying thousands for a lawyer is very often necessary to hold others accountable.
Colton Mitchell
>shooting retard rays our of your eyes
Andrew Brown
I guess that a customer getting into the car with a salesman sounds plausible to a jury, and they had no reason to think he acted with malicious intent.
Christian Ramirez
lets just remember that we are talking about people here
you could of course target the person when he or she is alone, lets just say we read up on oxygen loss or brain damage done by hypothermia to the frontal lobe and select a method most suitable for the purpose
victim can be placed in an even more embarrassing situation such as an elaborate framing of sex purchasing or breaking and entry
who is going to believe a heavily intoxicated man/female talking about alien abduction and "freeze rays" to the brain?
Grayson Young
i found that hilarious too
John Edwards
I think how he said it happened, happened.
It was a sporty Audi car that they were in. I think the salesman was showing off, showing what the car could do.
He was unlucky that he hit the curb, but he was going way too fast and the car rolled like a motherfucker.
It's and isn't this is case deals with who should pay for the repair off a third party's car
Ryan Smith
Don't be retarded of course you'd be charged. I'm not sure how exactly. I know of one case in which a man was rendered braindead and his assailant was charged with murder.
Caleb Davis
ThIs case deals with the problem of if I drive another person car and are not on the insurance and hit a another car.do I pay for the damages or the the cars insurance dose.i was thinking u friend might be able to go after the sales men but not the company in court if u were to try to sue for damages
David Watson
A scenario that elaborate will always leave a paper trail.