Not if you plan to exclusively modulate downwards in the circle of fifths by three or more keys.
Dominic Ward
>Unlike Wagner, Puccini does not develop or modify his motifs, nor weave them into the music symphonically, but uses them to refer to characters, objects and ideas, and as reminders within the narrative The germans have Liszt, the french Chopin, and the italians Puccini. What should we call this trio?
David Barnes
Judging by what most anons' compositions are like, that's not half bad. Keep at it faggot.
Benjamin Torres
petzold
Lincoln Russell
Mozart is overrated plebshit, right /classical/?
Eli Mitchell
Pizza with wurstel a' la julienne.
Kayden Clark
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Blake Sanchez
Not just Puccini, the entire of romantic italian opera composers are like this
Everyone likes them, he's a safe-as-fuck pop-classical
Luke Martinez
chart?
Chase Fisher
Do you have the rym link?
Luke Powell
sent ;)
Carter Moore
I prefer his safe style than edgy atonal stuff to be frank.
Christian Baker
>He prefers to music that's enjoyable to listen leave Sup Forums
Jacob Reed
I don't think /classical/ really likes the atonal composers.
Thomas Fisher
kys no one wants this half-assed garbage
Grayson Hill
>The germans have [good composer], the french [other good composer], and the italians [shit] ???
Wyatt Foster
>safe-as-fuck >Mozart >this meme again
Liam Hughes
>Liszt >Chopin >good ???
Jeremiah Ortiz
I don't know user, excellent recordings of most of the best music from the past century from 50 different composers, I think someone might appreciate it
Jayden Roberts
Name one (1) work by Mozart that's even remotely challenging Hard mode: No Requiem
Is 20 too late to start being piano, getting into classical music and actually being worth a shit? The culture seems to point to people who grew up around classical music and were able to adopt the instument and have lessons when they were very young.
Eli Ortiz
And by 'being piano' I mean 'playing piano'.
Lincoln Nguyen
It only has 2600 reviews, so it hasn't even passed peer review.
Evan Hernandez
shut the fuck up there's at least one of you retards asking the same stupid question in every thread
Matthew Hill
Kek. I'll lurk the next thread and wait for the next poor soul to ask then.
Justin Martin
Recommend me some composers still alive today.
All I know is there are plenty of "atonal", "post-dodecaphonic" composers that I view the same way I view what is going in art schools today (it's post-modern garbage). I also know there are mainstream guys like Hans Zimmer, Max Richter (his Vivaldi is quite good) or Morricone. How do I get into the modern symphonic game?
Mason Hernandez
The answer is yes, however only if you are able to spend multiple hours a day pursuing this interest and actually working. If you can see yourself spending less time on Sup Forums/jacking off/etc and pursuing music instead, go for it. I'm talking if you want to "actually be worth a shit". A piece of advice: don't do it. It's not worth trying to be special, the odds are even if you started at 11 you're not going to make it. Get a job. Imagine spending years doing something you're not even getting paid for. You hit 30 and start wondering wtf happened. Or you could get a job, have a steady income, money in your pocket. No sleeping in cars, no anxiety attacks, no being a leech.
Brayden Gray
The Krauss recording, honestly. Best overall singing and conducting. The sound is nice too, though it's only mono
Jack Collins
Got it. Thanks for the honest answer.
Joseph Turner
Honestly, most pianists 'worth a shit' today aren't really that good in comparison to their past peers.
If you're thinking about Carnegie Hall, then good luck, but if playing for yourself is 'worth a shit' to you, it's a worthwhile endeavor. Music gives you a lot of perspective on life in general.
Then no, you're not late at all. You'll probably never play Rachmaninoff 3, but you can easily get some sonatas and nocturne under your belt.
Oliver Scott
>not recommending Tabula Rasa >not recommending Spiegel im Spiegel Fuck off
Austin Moore
>You hit 30 and start wondering wtf happened I hit 30 a couple months ago: wizard, no friends, but at least I have my piano -- nobody can take that from me :3
Jason Torres
My hand are probably too small for Rachmaninoff anyway.
Tyler Gomez
Rachmaninoff isn't even that hard.
You can always roll it like the Asians do. There is a fucking 8 year old girl playing Rach's 2nd Sonata on youtube -- I believe in you.
Jayden Garcia
Most of the time I can't tell Debussy and Ravel apart.
Luis Smith
I'm 30, too. Grew up in a musical family, but never bothered to pick up an instrument myself. I can read sheet music, though. I've been thinking about trying to learn piano, but I can't afford a piano or even a keyboard. I don't know what I'm doing with my life.
Liam Cox
If it sounds like shit, it's Debussy. If it sounds amazing, it's Ravel.
Tyler Garcia
do what you want to do. you're gonna die one day anyway. make music or do some stupid job.
I really dislike both of those pieces. So sue me. Fratres was Pärt's breakthrough work in the 90s, Summa for strings is a personal favorite of mine - simply beautiful, and his first symphony and Perpetuum Mobile showcase his earlier, dissonant style. You could have brought up Fur Alina as well, as it was really his first tintinnabuli piece.
holy shit this is literally the best piece of music ever created by man and if any of you disagree i will come to your house and end you
Brody Perez
I disagree. Come over user I'm lonely.
Liam Butler
no you aren't allowed to disagree
Lincoln Jenkins
Depends what your definition of 'worth a shit' is.
There's plenty of evidence towards the logarithmic nature of music performance. Many classical pianists who cared to write of their own studies in detail within their notes/memoirs remarked that, despite the abundance of talent and cultivated ability, sight reading and memorization in particular became noticeably more difficult past their 20s; it's no coincidence that your brain begins to calcify somewhere around that point. As a late starter you're going to have a difficult time developing some abilities which are crucial to becoming a well rounded musician.
Technique is but one thing, responsibilities/personal life notwithstanding any late beginner can learn to play virtuoso passages quickly if dexterity is what they most desire, but the 'big picture' will often elude them and they'll find it difficult to memorize complete works or the things that they do finish learning will begin to fade much too quickly unless they rehearse them almost every single day which is exhausting if not downright unfeasible with longer music. Chopin/Liszt etudes are possible but don't even think about getting something like 'Petroushka' down without proper study habits.
If you rephrase your question as "will I be good enough by the time I'm 40 to pass an audition for any of the top 10 worldwide conservatoires or place highly in an international piano competition?" then the answer is simply no. You'll have 20 years of experience with the added disadvantage of having to begin studying one of the most excruciatingly minute disciplines on the planet in a period where your body is already beginning to slow down while most serious pianists will have 35 years under their belt and enough of their life committed to this one thing that it's like second nature to them.
You should read Piano Notes by C. Rosen. It's fairly simple but it details some very important concepts for anyone unfamiliar with the broad world of piano playing.
Jace Murphy
Glenn Gould is number one, without a doubt. A phenomenal pianist, personality and thinker. His interpretation of WTC is unchallenged, to this day.
Parker Rivera
Try Passions you brainlet. Mozart is unorganized and gets carried away with the voicing.
Joshua Gonzalez
Good Friday is coming up anons, which Passion setting/recording will you be listening to?
Logan Moore
Mentally challenged, you mean.
Lucas Smith
You can cry "exploring new avenues of musical expression" until you're red in the face. The score is only the score and nothing but the score. An étude that can't be performed is not much of a musical study at all. The spectralists also make use of many notational idiosyncrasies (out of necessity), the difference being that theirs always have a functional quality in the production of sound (music). Not so with the new complexicists who have had to retreat into increasingly more "esoteric" (i.e. nonsensical -- e.g. the insane schizophrenic idea of a "dialogue" between the score and the performer) apologetics every time someone has pointed out that they have no ground to stand on.
Gullible morons like you is why contemporary music is allowed to be so lacking. There's too many shit eating pseuds with their mouths wide open ready for charlatans to crap in.
Anthony Reed
>Someone writes the music they want to write >someone else says its shit
Same thing has been happening all throughout time. They said it about Monteverdi, they said it about Beethoven, they said it about Debussy, they said it about Stravinsky, they said it about Schoenberg, they said it about Penderecki, they said it about Reich. Now you're saying it about Fereyhough. It doesn't make you smarter than he is. It makes you look dumb and closed minded.
Mason Lewis
Many people also say the earth is flat and the moon landing was a hoax. "People say things" is not any sort of defence at all.
>Many people also say the earth is flat and the moon landing was a hoax That's what your comments on new complexity come across as. Its something you don't understand and are trying to make up things to explain it. "New Complexity is random bullshit" is as dumb as saying the earth is flat, but you just don't know any better. In 100 years you might work it out.
Jace Reed
And now we're back to "you don't know anything about it". Generic, unsubstantiated, pretend "esotericism".
How long would it take for someone to learn how to transcribe music into notation? And just how useful is it?
Seems to me like transcription is a MUST-HAVE tool, that would allow you to analyze music and speed up your learning substantially. Am I wrong in this assumption?
