Where is the line for politics in music?

This album is unbearable imo. The constant recycled CNN viewpoints are suffocating. Thoughts on politics in music? What albums "do it right"?

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all music is political

There are politics to everything people are involved in, user. Art especially so.
All art makes assumptions and assertions that can be dissected and analyzed whether the artist intended them or not. Everything people create reflects how they see the world and how they relate to it which all go back to their politics.
And politics goes beyond governing policies into basic interactions between people.

That said this album sucks.

Anything including politics puts me to sleep

it's a mediocre album but not because of the politics

everything is political

Politics and rock n roll don't mix. You'll never (((change the world))) with the power of music. Stay mad, Reddit.

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hows junior high treating you?

>complaining about liberal politics on a hip hop album
lmao did you just start listening to rap? sorry to be the one to tell you but this probably isn't the genre for you

im conflicted about the liberal politics in hip hop. a line like "i wanna see my people in power" (something like that) is extremely liberal and completely leaves out the issue of class. as if class issues would be gone when black people also become part of the oppressors. just like liberal feminists just want women in positions of power instead of liberation like the OG feminists. i want more talk about the correlation of class and race in hip hop and less focus on just race. sorta like the coup but with a little better music please.

We would be missing out on a huge library of music without politically charged music you fucking turbo pleb

>triggered by "i wanna see my people in power

how the fuck are you going to tell an artists what he can or cant put into his art? holy shit.

dude you woke af nigga

well joey is a 22 year old black rapper, it stands to reason his political ideology is not going to be the developed or rational

it's like a lot of punk bands in the 70s who just talked about anarchy because the energy around the youth at that time was revolt and anger even though they have almost no practical lane of channeling that energy

you're just going to have to learn to enjoy the music for what it is

*the most developed or rational

did i sound "triggered" in any way? or is anybody who critiques anything nowadays triggered? im just saying that i would like more political hip hop that is less liberal and more socialists. black people in power will just be black people in power. obama was black and still fucked over the working class. a black CEO still works by the same rules a white CEO does. this doesnt really challenge the system at a deeper level. i would love more actually radical hip hop.

you are right, thats why im conflicted about it. i really dig the album. love the passion and the energy. but im often just let down by the lyrics a little bit and wish for more.

Kuti has taught me about african problems which had a little impact on my political views but hey they are humans too i guess.
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exactly this, it's beyond boring especially that you know that dumb nigger joey prior to obama's election had no idea what parties fight in elections

Not to say the issue is unimportant, but I think it would be a real refreshing thing to listen to a hip hop album released this decade that isn't primarily about police brutality and race issues.

there are quite literally hundreds of those

People who think political music is actually good either have their heads so far up their ass they can taste their food before it's digested, or they're confusing "political music" with "historical music," where music based around history will definitely have political themes, but they won't be centered around modern politics aside from when history is repeating itself.

It's why, in all mediums, there's "political" media that people absolutely love. House of Cards for Sup Forums, Legend of the Galactic Heroes for Sup Forums, Killer 7 for Sup Forums, etc. None of these have politics for the sake of pushing their own agenda, they have politics because politics were a part of human history.

rapper opinions regarding politics are retarded and you shouldn't take them seriously.

Sup Forums hates house of cards though?

t.lil black boi

you seem insufferable

This is like the version of Nazi Punk but on Hip Hop....

Sup Forums is full of pedophiles and memers with ADHD. Why would they like House of Cards?

Sup Forums and Sup Forums are particularly contrarian when it comes to LoGH/K7 too.

Blacks are incapable of creating a prosperous and well functioning society in any capacity

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>everything is political
no.

a work is only as political as the artist desires it to be, or as you interpret it to be. yes, this album is political, but it's because it was written to be so. there's no politics in the work of, say, aphex twin, and claiming that there are is projection of the highest degree. how authoritarian do you have to be to think like this?

This especially.

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so just disregard the entire counter-culture of the 60s and 70s pointedly aimed at the government and the political climate at the time? yikes.

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Face it. Unfortunately everything is about politics from tv shows to music. It's bullshit but it's the hot topic and I wish rappers would stop the pandering and leave the politics shit to RATM.

>rage against the machine
>informed opinions on politics
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAJAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I can't get to everybody.

Better than your African American Studies track, faggot.

I can do without Bob Dylan, MIA, Rage Against the Machine and literally everybody else who had an explicit (((political))) theme.

Laurel Canyon. MKUltra. That "counter culture" of the 60's you romanticize was a science experiment and your faggot dad was a guinea pig.

Sooner or later all of you will realize Che was a piece of shit who's big mouth got tons of people killed.

lmao

Underrated and explicitly true

has anyone else dissed joey since he said he was better than 2pac?
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>has anyone else dissed joey since he said he was better than 2pac?
lyrically he is, the content hell no

Weak bait

You've literally rebuttled nothing.

This. Saw Fantano gave it an 8 so I checked it out. Definitely Joey's worst project.

I loved this album at first, i thought it was a next step for joey and whats happening politically its nice to hear his thoughts on things. Most of the album was sonically alright, there were some clever lines and the spoken word verse calling for black panthers-esque protection from the police and to not fall into deadly behaviors that terrorize and dont uplfit the community. the end i thought was a nice closer to an already politically charged album. The worst song i thought on the album was devastated, i still think this but legendary is up there because theres no lyrical or any content resembling the rest of the album, same with devastated. J cole however does a nice feature but this song feels like filler because it serves no purpose

Now relistening to the album multiple times i realize that the album doesn't delve any deeper into issues about black america besides references and solutions already said before, like decades before. This album comes across as TPAB-lite because of how it addresses the issues but they're not as mature or as fleshed out besides "black guy has died, thats bad". Its honestly lacking in any political introspective or any research. He makes basic points any person could've made and offers no perspective, he's young so i'll give him a pass but when dealing with an album like this at least put some thought into it.

Sonically devastated still is the worst but legendary is up there with it. Y u no love me was done better with for free, and actually shows the relationship in a cleverer way. Babylon sounds like blacker the berry with the delivery and the beat changeup but isn't as profound or deep into the issues.

Before really analyzing the lyrics i gave this a 8/10.

now its a 5/10, he should stick to what he knows.

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knowing what you're talking about

Fantano only liked it because of the politics I bet. If it weren't a theme in the album at all I bet he would have given it a 5-6.

Bump

black ppl wake up early in the mornings just to think of ways to tell others that they're black

You get it.

WOKE

>Everything is about the plight of the Modern Negro

Your noses are showing, oh Chosen Ones®