How do you feel about this cunt being in charge of education in the US. How do you feel she basically paid her way in...

How do you feel about this cunt being in charge of education in the US. How do you feel she basically paid her way in? How do you feel about pay to play now that it's Trump doing this and not Hillary?

I'm not into politics.

Hillary, Warren, and Sanders were doing it all along. Yet now you're outraged. Gtfo and back to the cesspit called Tumblr, snowflake.

The reason why liberal degenerates are so popular is because groups of people got shoved into higher education without having to work for anything before hand.

All these poor kids got handed education on a plate and then started a trend of whining about authority. Soon decents folks are whining on behalf of people who would mug them in their sleep.

Pay to play means less people who don't try get education which is what they deserve. Education isn't a right it's a privlege a family should need to fight for.

My family fled europe with nothing and work there way up. No hand outs, not help. Now I get to college after spending all of high school working for it and some dem wants me to spend money to send a gang banger here so he can waste the education on an easy degree? No thanks.

Right, successful business woman in the private sector....NO EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER...she could never do a good job, right?

>Pay 2 play hurr durr

You fucking liberals literally can't stop making shit up. Like half the criticisms are so unfounded it's just cringeworthy, especially considering there are LEGIT criticisms so out in the open to be made. But no, you gotta jump to "THE RUSSIANS RIGGED IT" or "PAY TO PLAY" or "TRUMP HAS BUSINESS DEALINGS IN ______"

Just say she's uneducated and/or unqualified and state your reasons why; who knows you might change someone's mind. Right now, though, everyone just ignores you cause you're so full of shit.

Hell I even agree that she's a bad choice and still felt the urge to tell you how retarded you sound.

Although I find it weird that a person from bureaucracy is handling education, I guess that's a theme in politics now.

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>well, you did such a good job running Ford
>now you're in charge of making sure kids get to college and the nation education standards
>because you're so good being CEO

this is your thought

Yeah but at least they have some experience and not just some idiot who paid her way in. Don't you think? I mean even if your a trump supporter you have to see how fucked up that is for future generations. I'm no fan of killary, in some way I'm glad she lost. Also I've never understood the whole snowflake insult at least I think it's supposed to be an insult. I do use tumblr but it's mostly for porn %98 porn %2 graphic design ideas.

Tell me more about how you feel. Your worse then those tumblr faggots. Conservitriggered.

She is another outsider that will kick establisment ass. Just because you have a fucking PhD in Education does not mean you rule the world. She is first getting rid of Common Core that is dumbing down kids. Then whomever is making money off this standardized testing and selling the demographic data will get their ass ripped. Then fuck seniority for teachers.

quality bait

Actually, I'm pretty excited for her voucher system.

lib here

I am tired of hearing libs whine about trump presidency already

it is getting to the point where it is worse than cons nonstop butthurtedness over obama

they won
its their turn now

The denial is real

Same here, fuck the Teacher Unions. Way too many old hippies and old bra burners are teaching only because of seniority.

>Conservitriggered.
oooooooooooooooooooooooh boy that's cringe-worthy

I can't wait until the generation educated at Bill and Sally's gospel book learnin' skool are trying to pray your broken arm away at the poverty er.

The idea's great. How would we protect from certain communities choosing to educate their kids with bias or bullshit though? Maybe we don't need to..?

Let me tell you shes from Michigan her voucher system sucks. Even people who are typically pro-school choice, she's literally shit.

4 years she'll be in an orange jump suit like most of Trumps cabinet. Same thing happened during the Bush years crooked people like this cannot keep their hands out of the cookie jar.

shut up you lily livered faglord. it's their turn to have the presidency, that means it's our turn to complain endlessly about how they're ruining the country. if more democunts start thinking like you they won't get the white house, congress, or supreme court back for 100 years.

Is it really worth it using the term snowflake when nobody really cares?

$1,000 that pay for one class? For one semester.

This.

>tfw you're just becoming woke how shitty your party is
>come next election you will be voting trump
it happened to me not too long ago

Fuck man. This isn't the 1800s anymore. STEM requires educated people.

Why cant liberal meme?
Its a sat state of affairs for the left on the internet.

Being a product of the "best public schools" in my state, and a very highly ranked high school nationally, I can tell you that the education system needs a huge voer haul, and someone who is part of that system is likely not the person that knows what to do. We spend the 2nd most per student in the world, yet we are failing miserably globally.
Our students are not leaving our public education with the skills and knowledge they need, yet they're so well funded and crying for more, like more money will improve their results.
You'd be amazed how many people leaving high school are not functionally literate.
And no, I don't mean the niggers and spics.
I mean the whites and asians.
The schooling system is just a money pit that passes kids to secure funding.

Its true. Conservatives get pissed pretty easy imo. I mean this is a mainly conservative board. And it is a board filled with bait posts and cancerous shit so they are attracted to that sort of thing

A BillionHeiress working as a public servant...Maybe she wants to give something back lol

I'm fine with it.

Right and some poor kid scrapped off the street isn't smart.
A kid who comes from a household without a single book isn't going to have the capacity for STEM that a kid whose parent bought him the entire encyclopedia Britannica has.

nah I will always be a lib on social issues
I am more center on economy

I just tired of fake outrage

from both sides

Welcome to Sup Forums, where people too young to have any idea what the fuck they're talking about argue about hyperbolic statements which didn't make sense in the first place.

You sound like a soon-to-be trump guy. It's ok. Come join the light side and NOT have to be pissed at your own party 24/7 :)

Its administators. Involved in the legal field. You'd be surprised how much embezzling occurs.

U wot m8.

STEM
S - Literally on the fly experimenting
T - Literally on the fly
E - Literally requires real life experience to learn
M - Literally learn all you need to in highschool

There's a reason even today, a degree isn't worth anything, and experience is worth everything.
Because I can watch videos about painting cars 8 hours a day for 4 years. But you know what? When I go out and paint a car, it's not going to turn out well.
Education is second hand knowledge, which is useless.

I am not surprised. The right is comprised primarily of idiots who were too stupid to get a degree so now they claim education is worthless, and support having other idiots teaching their kids. FYI, if you have "school of the hard knocks" listed as your education on a social media profile you are white trash.

Seriously. It's crazy how people act like they have no idea how anyone can support Trump.

Sorry libs, but when you spend your entire campaign talking about how terrible my specific demographic is for the country and how we need less people like me and more people like anyone else, you lost my vote.

And when those people you're bashing turn out to be the fucking majority of voters, don't be surprised when you lose the election.

Well the argument that education isn't a right it's a privilege is both right and wrong. Education is required for us to be competitive in the world, but at the same time since we do provide education kids are privileged to receive it for free through our tax money. Education should be one of the least controversial sectors of society. Instead, politics have invaded and both sides want to run education like a financial market. Our kids don't deserve that.

American public schools are shit anyway, so it doesn't matter much. Most of you never even learned about the electoral college. Public schools should be boot camps. Turn you fuckers into worthwhile citizens.

nice bait

Says every idiot that couldn't get a degree. I don't know where this "education is useless" bullshit comes from, but you sound like a spiteful child when you say it. The fact is you need a degree to get a dignified job in this day and age.

Nice evasion tactic

Voucher isn't related to tenure twat

Fearless Leader has also fallen in line with the Bush Family Wehrmacht and has begun murdering US citizens. Just women and children, to begin with.

25yo IT professional here, making more than you will anytime soon. Didn't go to college either, so no debt and I got started earlier. Enjoy slowly realizing that the only job you can get with your degree is "Professor Of My Degree".

>Social issues

See I'm pretty leftist on MOST social issues, but I still voted for trump.

I'm..

>Pro-choice
>Atheist
>Pro gay marriage

But I've realized there are actual issues that are more important than whether the president favors christianity in his speeches or whether gay marriage somehow gets overturned (which is unlikely anyways).

National security is way more important when you have muslims coming in that mostly HATE GAY PEOPLE and don't believe in freedom of religion. Liberals want these people in the country for some reason, and I've realized we can't let that happen.

'well funded'
good fuckin bait m8

Literally none of that will happen except eliminating seniority for teachers, which has already been happening.

I don't think trump is some great threat like most libs do
he is just anoying

I think he actually has good intentions
I just dont agree with him

which is fine right
we have a right to disagree with each other
he won though
cons also won big in congress

it is the rightwings time to shine
I say go for it
prove me wrong

You sound like a College student.
Fact is, you need connections to get "A dignified job"
Fact also is, the vast majority of white collar work is absolute trash, barely above minimum wage garbage.
Yet a 40 year old black woman who answers calls thinks she's more dignified than a structural engineer who makes $200k/yr

Most "kids" are 20 year old somethings. Also You libtards lied so often and constantly I can't believe a word you say.

you cry a lot don't you?

Its not about kids.
Its about families.
To be good in school you need a good upbring that treasures knowledge other wise it's just a waste of teachers time.
There are plenty of kids who don't take learning seriously and get nothing out of school.
Take those kids out and give the teacher one less trouble maker to worry about. Let them focus on the kids who actually want to learn.

Fuck it. I don't have kids let this cunt ruin the education system.

faggot

This is true. Socrates never thought that The Academy would ever grow into the world's most insidious pyramid scheme.

Children are the easiest to brainwash.

>Literally massively oversimplifying and generalizing one of the most important shifts in education we could and should possibly do.

Having knowledge never hurts, and gaining experience comes from having a base amount of what is needed to start. YES, you can just start painting cars and learn step by step, going through all the mistakes everyone before you went through. Education negates a huge chunk of the potential for those mistakes.

Not into most of this thread, but for what it's worth I'm a small business owner, and my interviewing process is mostly weeding out people who look good on paper (aka people who slogged their way to degrees) and looking for the people who know how to actually get shit done.

I mean there's a lot of overlap, and I'm not going to hire a high school drop out who seems clever. But formal education isn't everything.

It's not the left whining about his presidency, if anything it's Trump who keeps bringing it up. As a Democrat I accept that he is president but I think he is a bumbling idiot. He lies all the time, his people flat out make things up, his economic polices don't make any sense, and he is hell bent on removing protections that serve to protect the interests of the middle class. I really don't see how anyone can support him.

your point is proven by the fact that half this thread is children

No, Republicans are. Drunks and children speak the truth.

This fucking guy knows whatsup

you let your little sister fart in your face don't you

And im here like why do we have a department of education

I dont like muslims either
it breeds extremism

but I think banning imigration on religious basis is unconstitutional

but the US has done unconstitutional shit before in the past so...thinking of other imigration bans or inturnment camps

what can you do

it really irked me when she said teachers get paid too much when its the stone cold opposite they do not get paid anywhere NEAR enough

Education literally does not fucking matter.

because your mom isn't a teacher
teachers are

>And when those people you're bashing turn out to be the fucking majority of voters

It's like you don't know Hillary won the popular vote by a seven figure margin

because you're failing 8th grade isn't it?

but but but DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!

I feel like the more people in general are upset and dissatisfied that better my life is.

Yeh because the countries were banning have led to 0 terrorist attacks

faggot

>Having knowledge never hurts

Hurts pretty hard when you're like 32 and only just finally getting out into the real world because you spent the last 14 years in the educational system, only to realize you're a social idiot with no idea how to do anything.

Too much of anything can be a bad thing, man. The fact is that the left is encouraging a system of unaccountable, irresponsible "academics" who don't actually know how anything in real life works.

This isn't hyperbole; I live in a big college town. I see these people all the time. Most of them, when they realize they can't get a job with their 6+ year degree, end up trying to open a coffee shop or a bike shop or an internet startup. They soon realize that they have no idea how to run a business and it collapses, so they spend the rest of their adulthood whining about how the system failed them and the American dream is dead, in between bouts of reading Marx on the bus, hoping someone sees the book jacket, of course.

If republicans are so easy to brainwash, why did they rebel and overthrow the British to form the United States of America?

Is it summer already??

Yes this is the answer I was looking for.

US education has been shit for the longest time, it'll continue to be shit.
All politicians are paid to play. I don't care who wins, they'll keep doing the same shit.

>
It should be illegal to talk about politics unless you have a poli-sci degree like I have.

so he lies
he has a character flaw...his ego is fragile
so what

does not mean the left should overreact to everything he says and does

that is exactly what cons did with obama and it made them look stupid

it is making libs look stupid now that they are doing it with trump

See, that brings me joy.

You're being spoon fed your information. Sorry. I voted for Hillary but the protests are still going on, and trump's not the one 'bringing it up'.

You schools are beyond well funded. 50% of California income tax goes to k-12.
Think about that will you?

>Republicans existed before 1776

stupid Trumpfag

It's like you don't know how the American voting system works or why appealing only to urban centers lost her the election.

Go stand over there with Her, on the loser's side. Winning the majority did her a lot of good, eh?

Any job it takes an education to do is a pathetic lazy job we don't actually need people doing. Take the whiny little fuckers in college and put them in the army, we need more men and they clearly don't need their lives if they refuse to put them to any meaningful use

then you are a sociopath
you should never ever ever
ever be allowed to have a gun

He has good intentions, but more than that he's the first president in a long time to actually disrupt the set-in-place system that BOTH parties fall under.

Normally candidates have to run with elitist money and then spend their presidency shilling for those elitists. Trump doesn't have to do that, so he's actually got a shot at making real change.

The way I see it, whether you like him or not, or whether you agree with him or not, he's a wild card. Something is finally getting done in our government; things are happening. Normally nothing happens. I'd rather take the risk of something bad happening than just keep watching presidents shill.

Anyways, I'm just glad you're able to keep things civilized and respect the other side. Most liberals can't do that. Most republicans think the other side is stupid, not evil.

DRAIN THE SWAMP
FILL IT WITH SHIT

Elections have consequences.

If ya'll hadn't been such dicks when you were in charge then this wouldn't be happening.

But noooooii, you hada be Super Dicks because you believed your own bullshit to the point you -really- thought the Hilderbeast could win.

Karma is a BITCH, ain't it?

You should join the army
I'd love to be a DI yelling at your sorry faggot ass

I have a Masters degree in Management Information Systems. I make more than you do. I would not hire someone who doesn't have a degree, in part because it's not hard to find people with degrees. Also, I've known plenty of IT guys without degrees and they all have a chip on their shoulders, and most of them know a lot about specific things that they found interesting, but lack knowledge in other areas such as business or project management.

Trump supporters are going to get beat up suddenly and without warning these next few years
you've earned it

>The Roman Republic didn't exist before 1776.

You're not really helping yourself here.

its a department thats going to be shut down eventually; just a filler position