it is literally impossible to ethically defend not being a vegan today.
“What do they know—all these scholars, all these philosophers, all the leaders of the world? They have convinced themselves that man, the worst transgressor of all the species, is the crown of creation. All other creatures were created merely to provide him with food, pelts, to be tormented, exterminated. In relation to them [the animals], all people are Nazis; for the animals, it is an eternal Treblinka.”
-Isaac Bashevis Singer, Yiddish author, Nobel Laureate, & Holocaust survivor
Jonathan Murphy
Vegans are faggots and I'm ethically against that
Christian Gutierrez
I like meat.
Owen Rodriguez
people who hurt animals are faggots
Nathaniel Fisher
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Nathaniel Smith
I agree. I was a vegan, for 3 or 4 years. I had no problems, nor need to eat meat. But after all that time, I noticed how meat that wasn't sold was literally trashed.
So, not only my part was totally pointless, but also my part was literally wasted. So I decided to eat meat again, at least while I can't control what it's killed and whats not.
I'd love to be a vegan, if big mayority was it too. If not, its bullshit.
>inb4 if everybody would think that you blah blah
Also, pic related. Somehow.
Joshua Sullivan
I'm not sure you understand supply and demand. Of course, because of fluctuations in demand some meat will always go to waste. But if the store sees they're consistently overstocking, they'll buy less meat from people who hurt animals.
Ryder Sanders
Stop shoving your shit down our throats
Nicholas Reyes
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Cameron Smith
We are designed to eat meat. Do you bitch when animals eat other animals?
Austin Bell
The problem is not eating meat, but eating it prematurely just because is "softer".
If a chicken could live 12 years, let it live 11,5, happy, ing a big opened space, with vets and stuff, and then painless death and meat for everyone.
It would take a while, but that way is ethical.
Also, the prize would raise, but that's why we need COMUNISM.
kek
Grayson Turner
Dude, not even a vegan, but our theeth are designed to eat everything but meat.
Liam Nguyen
the difference there is that some animals need meat to survive, and that they're incapable of thinking about the morality of the issue.
Chase Edwards
More testicles mean more iron
Carson Mitchell
Meh. Sorry for that. That is true but we still get the most nutrients from meat
Ryan Long
You are eating, therefore you are killing. Kill yourself and save the world. Come on Vegans, prove your virtue.
Alexander Parker
eating only animals that die of natural causes? I mean that'd be better, but it's not very feasible. artificially grown lab meat is more feasible and most vegans (myself included) look forward to it
Justin Morales
today, it is very easy to be healthy without eating any animal products
Ryder Miller
1) nature is wrong 2) meat-eating has precedent but there's no reason veganism is less "natural"
two perfectly good responses, take your pick
Nathan Lewis
"meat tastes good"
-the defense rests-
Robert Diaz
We are all eating each other to live.
Gabriel Green
technically only gay people who hurt animals are faggots, the straight ones are just animal hurterers
Zachary Lopez
kek veganism
you silly little niggers need to understand that decisions are just that. your decision to be vegan is yours and yours alone. my decision to be a carnivore is mine and mine alone.
how you feel about what i do means shit all to me. you do what makes you happy (and i won't give a fuck) and i'll do the same.
i'm off to eat a hamburger now, enjoy your plant root or whatever you retards eat OP.
Angel Adams
Imagine you'd have a cow. And the cow falls trhough a cliff, and die. An accident.
Wouldn't it be a waste to let it rotten? I'd eat it.
a personal decision doesn't have a victim. your decision is not yours alone because your decision is to hurt animals.
David Powell
Yet our ancestors lived off meat. I'm more pissed that he says it's "moaraly unethical to eat meat." Fuck off with that shit. I shouldn't be ashamed of what I eat I'll
Connor Cox
Human meat tastes good too.
Nicholas Murphy
I love animals but pigs are not animals. They are food.
Robert Anderson
"they're incapable of thinking about the morality of the issue." Because, Mr.Intelligent - morality doesn't exist at all. It's just a concept of human brain. Thoughts are not real. No matter how much you want to be.
Alexander Walker
I don't love all animals, I love my pets. That's it.
James Richardson
to be honest, after having critically thought about it for a long time, the idea of eating animal flesh disgusts me
Jacob Jackson
you're actively choosing to feel butthurt about what i do. i have no control over your inane need to parade your emotional shortcomings around on the internet.
silly nigger, stay silly.
Jackson Davis
the fact that our ancestors did it doesn't make it right for us to continue to do
Nathan James
1. So? We are nature too. 2. Actually it's more healthy to eat meat
Nathaniel Morris
>pigs are not animals
wat
Luis Morris
Morality isn't real.
Thomas Cruz
If pre man diddn't start eating the marrow in bones they word not have had the protein they needed to evolve bigger brains, thus would not have evolved the intelligence needed to be some faggot moralfag on b who clearly got lost on their way to Tumblr
Kevin Barnes
If food animals were raised in ideal conditions, fed ideal foods and euthanised with drugs that made them feel pure extacy, would eating meat be ok?
If not, then your entire argument about how animals are treated is pointless. You are objecting to the taking of a life, not the treatment of the animal. In which case, how would you decide which lives are worthy of preservation? Will you stop washing to prevent bacteria on your skin from dying? Will you stop taking antibiotics next time you have a lethal infection? Are you a Jayanist?
William Ortiz
Well, that's not a good position either. The perfect one is to to take advantage of the resources withouth actively harming a being that can suffer.
Jaxon Garcia
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Oliver Morris
You're both wrong. People who are sexually attracted to other men are faggots.
Isaiah Jackson
They aren't. They are meatbags domesticated by humans for the sole purpose of consumption.
Michael Wood
I think you're confusing what I'm saying. I'm not saying I'm the victim. I'm saying the animals you hurt are.
Caleb Reyes
I'm not going to stop eating meat. You are limiting your body by going vegan. There has been study after study that says there is no real benefit of going vegan
Isaiah Robinson
wrong again. >true faggot
Levi Phillips
I agree eating meat might have been necessary and important in the past, but it isn't either of those things anymore
Eli Martinez
If you buy food veganism makes sense. But buying food doesn't make sense If you know your food veganism is just retarded. Animal products are crucial for humans that aren't consumer swine to live. Eating animals makes sense from an ecoagricultural perspective, unless you are like a Jain.
Nathaniel Harris
and i'm saying that how you feel about the animals i "victimize" is entirely moot to me. you expect me to value the opinion of a literal stranger telling me that what i do is bad?
what a well constructed padded room you must live in.
Jeremiah Fisher
I love my health an the health of my specie higher then I love other beasts and I like meat
Jaxson Peterson
but other options exist. I don't need to eat animals, I could just as easily eat plants.
James Mitchell
This. I'm only against how they're are treated, and how short their lifespan is.
Ryder Davis
Lab grown meat should remove the ethical problems. Next problem?
Gabriel Jackson
What's disgusting about it? It's just muscle fibers and fat. The fact that the animal is dead should be of no relevance regarding how disgusting it is.
What I CAN understand is how the animals are treated before their death, which is a problem in some places I admit. This however should not mean that we all should just drop eating meat.
Also kinda offtopic but anyone else REALLY put off by overblown propaganda pieces like PETA puts out? It just makes me not care as much if it's made to be as offensive as possible towards meat eaters imho
Dominic Ortiz
I think he was just providing an example of how that argument fails. I doubt he's an actual cannibal
Colton Reed
Hey shit for brains, take your agenda back to to some libcuck site
Grayson Brooks
But then, if you have the chance to enjoy nature resources withouth harming, you're insulting the entire life by not taking them.
Parker Diaz
only reason domesticated animals are alive today are because we use them. If a domesticated animal no longer serves a purpose, it's useless and dies out. Domesticated animals can't survive without humans.
Christian Baker
while some people go vegan for health, a lot of people go vegan because they think it's the right thing to do. not every action anybody ever does is to benefit themselves. although you're wrong, veganism does.
Isaiah Cruz
PETA does more harm than good. Fuck PETA
Adam Ross
>Implying I love animals
Jaxson Perez
>implying everyone can "afford" to eat healthy, vegan plant based meat alternatives >implying if I stop consuming meat is going to change anything in any industry >implying you're actually this naive/retarded
Wyatt Campbell
Fuck that I want what ever my bloodline evolves into to be some fucking brain Monster that inhales blood and shits out physics
Eli Moore
I love Vegans, they remind me that while my life has been less than stellar lately, I know I'm at least on top of some people in this world.
Adrian Martinez
plants can feel pain too they just cant show it
Jaxson White
Never been a vegan, don't care. Interested though. Is it just the fact that they are deprived or cruelly treated that turns you off meat or the fact that they are raised for slaughter to begin with. I have worked inspecting slaughterhouses in the UK for Tesco and the standards are very high and improving all the time. I saw no suffering.
Ryder Murphy
you claimed that your action is your decision alone. I'm just pointing out that isn't true. a personal decision doesn't hurt anyone else.
Jace Howard
It actually surprises me to see some intelligence in Sup Forums
Michael Foster
do you honestly still believe that animals feel pain?
Blake Reyes
Oh and I'm a butcher. I literally used to get paid to slaughter cows. I don't work in an abatoir any more.
Charles Barnes
This
Alexander Torres
No it isn't. Ethics are just societies opinion on something. Not a fact. Just because you find a problem with the killing and consumption of animals doesn't mean others will agree with your point of view.
Sebastian Anderson
I enjoy animals. Both as friends and food. I'd eat people, but cows and pigs taste better. Everyone and everything gets the same chance with me. I don't discriminate.
Landon Wood
>ethics
Daniel Cook
phew lad. enjoy your life and i'll do the same, you mean literally nothing to me.
Eli Evans
no u
Jaxon Wright
Oh piss off.
Joshua Gonzalez
He means enough to be answered lol
Logan Adams
I'm insulting a dead animal by not eating its body? lol ok.
I think you're just looking for a situation in which I'd admit that I'd eat meat, so I'll give it to you. If I needed to eat meat to survive, I would. But that situation has never existed in my life and I really don't see it ever happening. If it ever does, then it won't be wrong to do so.
Cameron Collins
I believe the few species who have proven to be sentient or self aware can. Like dolphins and apes for example. Now fish and reptiles are a different story, because I doubt their brain is evolved enough to have the facilities needed to feel and then interpret the pain as a bad thing.
Jackson Harris
nice argument faggot >i care about the life of other species so much >but not if i dont like them lol
James Williams
so we're doing them a favor by breeding them into existence for us to hurt? this same argument implies not having children is worse than murder.
Ayden Rivera
we have canines, bicuspids and tricuspids. those are evolutionarily designed to tear through the flesh of other animals. If we were supposed to eat primarily plants our teeth would be flat
Austin Hill
How nice it must be, to be so rich that you can choose to abstain from one group of foods, and never worry about any physical repercussions. You are so fucking wealthy that you can do this, and mock those who are scraping by with ire and scorn as if you are superior to them. Try to have a shred of empathy for tour fellow human, those people living on the streets in your very city. They exist, but you choose to ignore them. I have been where they are now, literally eating from other peoples trash to not starve to death. If they get their hands on meat, its a glorious boon, holy protien concentrated that assures their bodies will wither away a little less that day. How nice it must be, to be so fucking rich that you can gut yourself of empathy, just so you can attack those who you feel are inferior to yourself.
Christian Miller
>stop liking what I don't like
Brandon White
I don't love animals, but I still think it's wrong to hurt them for unnecessary reasons. You don't need to love animals to be a vegan.
Asher Hernandez
Jokes on you, I have no issue with being unethical if it means I can eat delicious animal products.
Carter Brooks
>personal decision doesn't hurt anyone else Yes it does.... a personal decision is one that a person makes. I could decide right now to come shoot you in the face, it was my decision. Moron. Animals aren't people so don't refer to them as "anyone else"
Brody Baker
even if that was true, veganism reduces the amount of plants destroyed. it takes a lot of plants to raise an animal, you know.
Camden Hernandez
No, user. I just say that we must take adventage of everything.
We should burn dead people bodies massively, after their organs have been donated, to get energy. Burying them is pointless.
We should eat animals that died, because other way is a waste and an insult to the limited resources of our planet.
And so on.
Luis Lopez
So much of this.
David Baker
>not comprehending anonymity I never said I cared about anything, that's the first post I made. Faggot.
Christopher Miller
you're a faggot
Brody Jackson
2) veganism is not natural-without human genetic engineering to agricultural products vegans do not consume vitamin B-12. This can cause demyelination of your neurons and a whole host of health problems
Luis Torres
While your doubt may have merit, one cannot establish a person's tendency toward cannibalism, or any other Fijian ceremonial human flesh eating activities, without a thorough interview in which the subject is given the maximum opportunity to disclose his or her dining proclivities. Even when the subject has fully divulged their innermost culinary secrets, one still must maintain a shadow of uncertainty, as doubts will always persist. Otherwise, we are left to assume that self-described cannibals are, at best, attempting to be edgy.
Hudson Rogers
>literally Literally eat a poo, God gave us animals to eat
Adam Jenkins
that would mean any decision is a personal decision. I used the phrase "personal decision" to mean one that doesn't affect anyone besides the decision maker, like the original comment claimed eating meat was
Wyatt Kelly
>all the leaders of the world >admits hirarchy among people >won't admit hirarchy among species Ok so what's next?
>eternal treblinka Does this guy know what he is talking about or is he just using buzz words to make a mountain out of a pea? Eternal? Come on you retard.
>humans are cruel Have you ever seen Nature? Humans are natural too.
Am I for animal cruelty? Fuck no. People are going to be people. Good luck tryna change that. Protip: None of yall ever will, nobody ever did.
It's all just crying out loud. And nobody is listening.
Nicholas Thompson
Not really; that make you ill in the short term. Never again.