Sup Forums date ideas with long time friend?

Sup Forums date ideas with long time friend?
>inb4 worst place to ask
I know there's a lot of you fuckers that are actually coherent and can give some good insight.

I'm 18, I've known this girl since I was 15. She's very down to earth, petite and cute. We'd immediately clicked, making fucked up jokes, and very soon we got a weird dynamic and I'd be grabbing her ass as I said goodbye, and touchy things like that. Obviously I liked her. We'd watch movies, cuddle and even hold hands, but I couldn't get it past that. We kissed once but it was pretty awful. She came over a week later for a sleep over with my best friend (we made some sort of group), we talked a bit but she didn't want anything more. Weirdly , after we watched "Zack & Miri Make a Porno" and it wasn't awkward at all.
Anyways we've become good friends, she was part of a pretty solid friend group that sort of disintegrate as people moved countries. We don't hang out as much, although every time we meet we immediately click. I'm very social and I go out, and when I want, I'm a "player". She's said in many occasions that I'm on her mind a lot, although we don't hang much, she 'admires' me and how much I go out, and uses that as an inspiration to get out of the house more, and step out of her comfort zone. She's said she could see herself married with kids with me as well as one more person, but not the process aka romance. One thing about her is she is very awkward with romance. She can't see herself kissing someone she doesn't really know. And she can't see herself kissing someone she does (as I am). Only person she's been comfortable with broke her trust, but as she was very invested in the friendship and even knew the family, same friend group and all (different from mine) she kept the friendship and they casually have sex now. He was her first. On the awkwardness, she's said she laughed at his dick for 20 minutes the first time she was giving a blowjob, cause "dicks are funny looking right?"

Yesterday we were hanging out (after a month or so) and she tells me she wants to get with this guy. She only listed bad things about him, and the three reasons for wanting to casually be with him were
1. Revenge on ex
2. She's always afraid of things so wants to get out of her comfort zone, with me as an example
3. I'd be nice to have casual sex (I mean ofc!
None to do with him. I tell her, "you know I actually think we'd make a good couple", and then asked her if she wanted to go out. She was slightly hesitant, cause we know each other for so long. I tell her no worries we'll get blasted (drunk) and she agrees. Conversation moves on. When we leave I ask if she was free that same day (yesterday, Friday) or on Saturday. She asks "for hanging out" I reply "for getting shitfaced" she said Saturday's good.

>Question is, what advice could you pros give me? What could we do, and how to make the transition from friendship into a relationship?

>how to make the transition from friendship into a relationship?
Put your willy in her

Be bold get a few drinks take her home go down on her as soon as you get home on the floor or even in the car. I've done this about 10 times w girls after being friendzoned

Wouldn't that be too fast for him or am i a pussy

I was like him trust me on this super aggressive works. Women say no to being eaten about 10% of the time. Make sure to take the dick out while eating tho

>I'm 18
Stopped reading there. Come back when you have real problems.

Given she's kind of awkward in that sense, we're both 18 (so no place of our own) I don't think I'd work

I was thinking of watching a movie home drunk
Question is more geared towards how to make that first move, and more or less ideal settings for it

Not a problem retard, asking for advice and starting a discussion
Never asking for advice (of course processing it too) will leave me mostly in the same place I am today

Bumping with tiddies

Beta

Get your Tone Loc on

Kek well eventually

Oldfag with lots of experience checking in.

This guy is good advice

There are a few rules:

DO NOT get shitfaced. She might kiss you, but you'll end up in the deepest friendzone ever ("I was drunk, didn't know what I was doing, let's pretend it never happened)

Have a couple of drinks, and then be brave and strong. You need to TAKE her. Women want men to lead, especially when there is an equal balance between them already. She's testing you. If you play her friend, then you fail the test. You have to be her lover that night, not her friend. Act like it.

Whatever she says that it won't work or she's insecure etc. don't even have that discussion. You have to be one step ahead in the discussion, like you're already in a relationship and want to discuss where it goes.

As soon as you can feel that she is in for the idea you have to make it sexual. If you don't, then it'll become awkward. Don't give her enough time to shift you to the friendzone again. Tell her what you like and then let her tell you what she likes. Then lead the discussion from there. She has to imagining you doing it to her. As soon as she does, you've won.

For further tips summon Ass man, the man with the Indy memes.

>Tone Loc
Expand on that?

Usually I get girls very easily, but not regularly after knowing them for such a long time. Rather learn from others who've failed and learnt before than fail myself

This can either go one of two ways.

1) you try and romance her beta style and she doesn't let you Fuk her like every time in the past

Or

2) You just get it in your mind that you two are going to Fuk. You get her to your bedroom first chance you get and don't give her even a second to double think stuff like you have in the past.

Fuk her hard. Fuk her good. She will want more. Fuk her again. Fuk her in the morning. Don't let her leave until she will remember your dik for days whenever she sits down.

> she kept the friendship and they casually have sex now
In other words : she's in love with the guy who fuck her on a regular basis and give her zero attention / don't want any sort of involvment. You are the guy who gives her what she need to fell fullfilled : care, talk and share
In other words - short version- : you have been friendzoned by a whore

Move along, you sound like a nice kid, you will probably find a lot better

>don't even have that discussion. You have to be one step ahead in the discussion, like you're already in a relationship and want to discuss where it goes.

Can you expand on that?
Also ass man, I'm liking the tips! Keep 'me coming if you think of more

Listen to me dude it is very simple. I had an older sex mentor he told me many things that I thought at first out of character for me but every time I did what he told me it fucking worked just do what I told you a beer or two go for the pussy go to start pulling her pants down at face level kiss her stomach and then eat the pussy take your dick out while you're eating it and get your dick hard before she comes stick your dick in

Alright I'm listening

Question though, kiss first? Or just go from 0 to a hundred?
Originally I thought of watching a movie getting all cuddly (she's like that) but I'm listening

OP it seems like you are one of if not her only trusted male friend, one that doesn't fuck her. When girls find a male friend they don't wanna fuck or doesn't want to fuck them you can barely ever turn that to sex without ruining everything. Women need to be able to rely on a member of the opposite sex without it turning into sex. It will just make the girl feel shitty and you will lose her. My advice, move on and find a new girl that you can go on double dates with your friend and shit, etc. And then if somewhere down the road she realizes she wants you and you both are single or in bad relationships, take that chance and get together.

This guy gets it from now on on this board I will give my self a name PUSSY MASTER or PM so you guys know who you are talking to

wow

Nah m8 I know many whores she's not one. The guy was her first.

Also we don't hang very often, so none of that fulfilment

Nevertheless any advice is appreciated

My PM advice

Me PM again

So, we go for a couple drinks, stepmom is at home, so bringing her back and fucking there isn't very plausible... perhaps not go out at all and just drink at my place, my room is pretty chill actually, then fuck there?
What else could I do?

What all the others have said. You to be aggressive and take it. What you need to conquer is her cowardice.

Women always have some bullshit reason for hesitating, even when they want the d. Emotions and all that. Just think of what she said, "No, we've known each other for too long." That makes no sense. If anything, that's good because you know what you are getting into and are comfortable with each other. But again, women.

FUCK THAT, be a man and take her. Also, if alcohol is a must, do it after you fuck her. Do not be afraid.

You obviously know her better than me but believe me : a girl who slept more than 3 times with a same guy is, in a way or another, sentimentally attached to him.

If your plan is to have fun, move straight to it. Wine in a cosy place is better than beer for this kind of thing.

If your plan is about romance, you'll get hurt

this. seriously OP, dont make that mistake, if she is fucking him casually she wont stop once youre in a relationship. why do you think you wont be her cuck, all the evidence is here and youre still going with your head to the wall. youre a retarded kid and you know it, but love is a fucked up mistress and I dont really blame you, benn there done that, just please dont make the same mistake we all did. does she wear a choker or has a tumblr? smells like a resting bitch face whore who just cant get enough attention ever and you will suffer greatly until she leaves you and you will be in position her ex is now. think with your head and you will see that we are right about this

Nah it ain't about being romantic I know that bullshit doesn't work
It's about having fun, while also getting it on

I forgot to mention I crushed on her for a bit but way back, then 100% had moved on. Only recently did it occur to me, hmm, maybe this could be fun.

Also, never thought of being aggressive in the sense that's being talked about. Good new perspectives, gonna use them

PM ....it's OK to cuddle but not for 2 long if it's a funny movie OK but something drama no way. Its funny but at 18 the pussy is probably already wet if there is no resistance just fuck her gotta go now and coach son's basketball BTW I've fucked at least 231 girls so listen to me you young no getting pussy white boys

The thing is, you are her friend right now, so letting it like it is, is the no-risk way for her. She has everything she wants from you, sex is nothing she desires with you obviously atm. But for her it is something that she would have with her boyfriend. You have to see yourself as her boyfriend already, and sex is just what comes now. You don't have to tell her that, but act like it.

The thing is, for her it seems that it could be awkward when you are together. By acting like you already are, you are one step ahead. There's nothing awkward, it's already happening. Women are often afraid of what might be. That's why you show her how it is.

Just a pro tip you might want to use in a few months or years: If you want something from your future GF in the bed, then you don't discuss that at the breakfast table. You tell her when she is the horniest, but then don't do it. Do that several times and she will connect the idea with good sex because at the time you are giving her the idea she is actually having great sex. The same applies for other things as well. Whenever you want something, connect it to a feeling of safety, good emotions, love, hornyness. And when doing so, you have to LEAD the discussion. Don't pussy out. Say what you want and how you want it. Humans are like every other animal, they can be lead or they are followers.

That doesn't mean that you shouldn't have a healthy relationship where only you say what you want, but when you want something that is really important to you and you know that there will be a discussion, then you have to take it, not just ask for it.

Feminism tells us that women are basically untouchable and have to be asked for every step you do. But guess what, she's not a stranger, she talks with you about BJs and sex and now you have a date. She is willing to give you a chance. If you act like a pussy now and take it slow, she will only see the friend in you. You have to take what you want. Lead her.

Young MC

Bust a move.

Nice tips indIbro

Not going for some big romance nor am I in love or anything of the sorts. Just it'd be fun to try, thought of it and quickly made a move
When I did like her, oh god I would have hesitated badly (also I was 15 back then, lots of learning since)

Good point on her not stopping, or rather falling to temptation later on

Thanks buddy. I see myself as the good soul of Sup Forums, spreading actual tips and a good vibe. Always great to see that some people value that.

itt: kiddy thread

so from here:

>i'm a "player"

from here >never asking for advice, don't need

from here >usually i get girls very easily

yet overall tone is that you ain't confident in yourself or in your relationship with her.

so here's my tip FWIW

1: actually establish how you feel in terms of yourself and in terms of this girl

2: admit that to yourself and to her

>tldr; just be fucking honest. if you ain't a player, don't pretend to be one. if you like her, tell her. above all else don't invest so much in any of this, like a guy above says you are in early days for life so it doesn't really matter.

just speak your truth to the lady and if she rebuffs you, move on with dignity intact

>there is very little to be embarrased about if you are 100% truthful in this life.

so you just want to fuck her? just ask her to be your fuckbuddy and dont post your bullshit on here. man up nigger /thread

Fucking genius!

And about the last part, were very open, definitely not a stranger.

Found out this girl I was fucking was her kindergarten best friend. Told her, She was so stoked I was fucking someone she knew, apparently finds it funny/interesting. She knows I get pussy so I guess that helps

It's quite the opposite. It's hard to say you're a player without obviously people being skeptic, just wanted to establish the context. Agree with all your last points

Nah mate, saying I'm not crushing bad, but I think if it works out it can be a very good relationship.

> /threading own post

She just messaged me
>Eyo I'm in a kind of sitch
>Can't make it tonight

Ask for nudes
Then post
Sup Forums will provide good advices then

Bamp

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Kek
I'll no longer need b's advice

Yeah if I had someone on Sup Forums telling me this stuff 10 years ago, then I didn't have to learn it the hard way. Anyway, about the kindergarten friend: Don't stretch it. I wouldn't bring it up again. She knows it and that's a good thing. But don't focus on it, because it could lead to questioning her morals or something. When talking about these things, talk about your "experiences". That leaves a bit of imagination to her. It's also a good thing to make her feel like there are things she has yet to find out about you. And that certainly can be sexually.

Don't listen to this guy, what he says simply doesn't apply in a situation where you are in the friendzone already. It can be a good thing when you get to learn someone new, because it accelerates what might be (or stop it completely). But not in your situation.

what does that even mean? That she has other things to do like having a cocktail with her bestie? Is that literally all she wrote?

Wasn't planning on mentioning kindergarten friend, rather provide context here

And yeah, asked "we good for tonight?" And that's all she replied
Sitch being 'situation' here

One thing to know, she is horrible with time and keeping schedule and whatnot. Also easily gives in to peer pressure enough to ditch someone else
I know because we convinced her to ditch others before
What goes around comes around
Or perhaps she actually has sth going on

who that

No clue m8 sorry

What could I reply? Was thinking of brushing it off saying "send nudes tho"
Your experience is however very much appreciated

Well, the thing is if she's really interested in having a date with you, then she wouldn't chicken out because of a "situation". She's either insecure about it or not very interested. The second would make it pretty hard.

The thing is, that could be a great thing to ask, or a very shitty thing. I don't know her actually. If she just got pressured into doing something else and otherwise is interested in you, then it might work and give your date a head start. If she is chickening out, then it might put it further away from you. Only you can guess what is closer to the reality.

Personally, I'd call her and ask what's up.

Forgot the attachement

I think she's chickening out, or is insecure about it
The nudes, only meant it as a joke, never intended to get anything. Could the joke push her away still?

Also, didn't consider calling her at all
What say? Again I could do on my own but the advice is great so thanks! :D

Ahah thought you did
How many of these do you have?

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idk, if she's insecure I wouldn't try. Call her and tell her that you want to see her and that she doesn't have to be insecure. Leading a discussion means that you have to know what she thinks and then tell her that you know and present a solution. Tell her you know that she is questioning whether that's a good idea or not and that you know that it is, so she shall get dressed and get up. Now.

quite a lot, I'm constantly making new ones.

Okay, gonna do that
Wish me luck

Oh also forgot to mention, it's my 19th birthday next Saturday, gonna make a house party, and I have this whole next week off school. She doesn't tho
If she's actually "in a sitch" but wants to see me, re-schedule for next Friday, or what?

Asking before I call

>Asking before I call
Enough fag. You do not call a girl who just text you "Can't make it tonight"

That's why you are and he is in her bed having a blowjob

I'm torn between these two. I'd regularly not call, but his points where pretty good
What do if not call, overall the end result should be we get together, not just like the many other chicks I don't really care about

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>rescheduling is a good thing IF she is actually in a situation and can't make it tonight. It's not a good idea if she is chickening out. If she's chickening out, then you don't reschedule but tell her that you want to see her tonight. Don't give her time to stay in that insecureness for so long.

Why shouldn't he? An appointment / date is something you take seriously, or don't agree to it at all. Calling her tells her that he cares and don't just want to fuck her. If she's insecure about the whole thing, then calling her is the right thing to do. If she is "in a situation" she'll tell him and they reschedule and everything is fine.

When calling and you feel like she's just insecure then you can tell her that you actually care about her BUT only if you feel like you can actually get the date done tonight. If you guys reschedule and you told her that, then she has enough time to get a feeling of awkwardness and insecurity to drop you like a hot stone during the time you don't see each other. It's easy: only attack when you know you can close the deal.

>18
>known since 15
>long time friend

Well I move a lot, have never lived somewhere for more than 6 years, and lived in Buenos Aires for 6 months so
I know her from a time we were in a very different state of mind, and where a lot of learning and experiences occurred. Also a lot of friends left the country too, so yea relatively speaking she's an old friend, plus we're very close

Agree with what you said. She hasn't been online since the message nor on other social media
Called and it gave me the ring where it's unavailable/busy. 2 minutes later get notified it's available again by my carrier, wait a bit and call and it says the phone is either not working or is turned off

Could be either a sitch, or avoiding
I'm not gonna call again, but for the next couple days what's the plan of action?

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Ass man waiting for your knowledge
Most definitely nothing is happening tonight, will probably go out to the city centre with a friend

There is no way her waist isn't photoshopped

Thought so too. She'd break in half with a small wind gust

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is that britney hyat

No clue

Anyone else willing to chime in I'd hear you out

''Hey listen Ive been ''

An attempt at humour is better than nothing

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Tldr fastforward to anal

Shay Lauren btw