Who doesn't get turned on by girls between the ages of 12 and 18 is a faggot or liar

who doesn't get turned on by girls between the ages of 12 and 18 is a faggot or liar

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>but i would prefer grown up monster juggs instead of the netherlands.

True.

But try to explain that to the general public.

The hypocricy runs deep in our society.

What about the how bow dah girl? She's 13 and she has big boobs.

thats rare.
>but i have to say, that would make me feel uncomfortable, or atleast my bvrain.

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I like your honesty.

It's pretty natural to find teens attractive since they become more of an adult and since that's when people start getting sexually active and develop sexually more. Finding them attractive is fine so long as you don't fuck them.

Agreed

Males were programmed to be attracted to girls regardless of age. No. Law does not have anything to do with this. Its fucking called human biology.

Anytime i hear some guy say "I'm into girls over 18", it makes me want to call him out on his bull shit but I can't do that. The subject is so taboo that he is forced to say that to blend in with the crowd of normalfags.

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Why no fucc?
>inb4 beta faggot following the law

Or I just don't like people traumatizing kids. Laws are there for a reason.

Can't be blamed if they consent.

I used to feel uncomfortable about my 'strange feelings', but then I found out they weren't all that strange. Then I realized that it was just social conditioning that made me uncomfortable - not something internal or naturally there. I'm a male, I'm naturally attracted to females. There's nothing strange about that. It's strange that I was somehow convinced it was 'wrong' or 'creepy'.

They're kids they barely understand what sex is. Even with all the porn on the internet. You were a kid once right? So you should know that they're physically and mentally unable to handle sex.

Laws aren't always there for good reasons. There are a LOT of nonsensical laws on the books.

15ish+ yes, pre-puberty, fuck no.

Fair point but the laws for consent are perfectly fine. And that has been proven by scientists and biology.

I like girls that have no signs of femenine growth which is somewhere between 5-11

The law would disagree.

Huh? Even kids who are so sheltered they barely get oxygen tend to understand what sex is. I don't think that kids are mentally able to choose a lifelong partner, but I don't think all adults are capable of that, either. As far as the physical side of things, I think everyone is different. I think that sane, rational, and caring people don't hurt other people. So, I'm not sure what you're getting at. If someone does something that hurts someone else, that's abuse. We're not talking about abuse here, there are many sex acts that are neither abusive or hurtful.

>They're kids they barely understand what sex is.
>twelve year olds don't understand what sex is

>You were a kid once right?
yes and I knew what sex is when I was 9 years old

>you should know that they're physically and mentally unable to handle sex
>you were physically and mentally unable to handle sex when you were 12?

Actually, all the science I've seen seem to directly contradict that.

12 or 13 is not prepuberty

Looks like you need to do some more research then.

So what? a kid is traumatized.

My thoughts exactly.

13ish is good

teenagers are kids but
>they barely understand what sex is
are you fucking kidding me?

>You were a kid once right?
>So you should know that they're physically and mentally unable to handle sex.
I was quite capable of handling sex when I was a teen.

is this a troll post?

we're talking about teenagers here you fucking moron

>Even kids who are so sheltered they barely get oxygen tend to understand what sex is.
Incorrect. I didn't know jack shit about sex until I was 12 and that was just the talk. Then when I was 13 I was introduced to porn and barely knew a thing about that. Then at 14 I figured out how to masturbate correctly. Then from 15 and 16 I started to understand it a lot more. In my late 16s and when I was 17 I was just about ready to start having sex.

Exactly. Teens don't know shit about sex jack ass.

>So what? a kid is traumatized.
why would a teenager be traumatized from consensual sex?

Not really. I would, honestly, like to see anything legitimate that supports your point of view. Many millions of girls are sexually active starting at 12 or 13, so they are definitely biologically capable. Science basically backs that up. It's pretty open and closed.

>are you fucking kidding me?
Nope
>I was quite capable of handling sex when I was a teen.
Implying that most teens are capable of handling sex.

Here is an analogy:
You should not eat a sandwich while it is being made, but you can admire the process. You should only eat it when it is complete.

speak for yourself fucking retard

i find it disgusting that you could possibly find girls under 18 attractive. they are 100% different, and technically (but i don't want to baffle you too much here) classed as a different species until they are at least 17.5 years old. the 0.5 of a year - or six months if you follow the metric time scale - is just a buffer period which is only there due to a loophole in the law. although, i am only attracted to girls *over* the age of 18. i am physically repulsed by any female until the second the clock hits 00:00 on her 18th birthday.

>So what? a kid is traumatized.
So that is bad. Jesus why do I need to spoon feed you pedos common sense when you can just look up is trauma bad. Christ you're retarded.

Yeah that's a good point, they wouldn't be I think this guy is trolling.
WHO CARES?

Also you're a beta cuck

So, you understood what sex was when you were 12 or 13. Case closed. When someone feels they are ready for sex? No one is saying that each *individual* shouldn't decide that. That has nothing at all to do with this conversation whatsoever.

That's merely because puberty starts. They barely know what to do though. Just because they masturbate doesn't mean they want to fuck some randomer. No it's called exploring your own body. Common sense.

Okay, three things.

One: By and large, you're probably right, but if you genuinely believe there aren't guys out there who just aren't into kids, you're an idiot. Some people like busty chicks, or older chicks, or muscular chicks, or a dozen other fetishes you aren't likely to get out of a kid. Other people are parents or grandparents who are just too used to associating people of that age with innocence, or it's too closely tied to their protective urges. Either way, plenty of normal, straight, healthy people don't want to fuck kids.

Second: is it wrong to fuck kids? Probably, but not always. There are plenty of "kids" who are definitely mature enough to make that choice for themselves. Some people are young and wise through experience or natural inclination, some people just have to grow up fast. Granted, it's going to depend on the kid, but everyone reaches the point where they could consent at different points. There are people who can't EVER consent because of mental illnesses, just like there are 12 year olds who flirt with adults. Everyone is different.

Finally: Laws. It's illegal to fuck kids, and that's a good thing. Yes, there are probably plenty of people younger than 18 (17,16,15, whatever your AOC is) who are mature enough to decide for themselves, but there are a fuck of a lot of kids who aren't, so calling open season is a terrible idea. You know as well as I do that if it was suddenly legal to fuck kids, there would be a lot more daddies and mommies who "suddenly find out" that their kid just HAPPENS to be ready to fuck people, be it their own family, or their parent's many friends who tend to give them gifts of money for totally unrelated reasons.

>ive never had sex as a teen

Sandwiches aren't sentient there for your analogy is poor and unethical in this argument.

Lol retard b8. If not bait then you're just simply retarded.

The point is that life is traumatic. It's, actually, not all bad. It's part of growing up. Most of the trauma, though, is caused by the people surrounding the kid telling them that what they did and how they feel is wrong and confusing the hell out of them.

>WHO CARES?
The kid and the kid's family and society and the FBI etc.

Uh. What?

I take it you just didn't get laid much when you were a teen? Because I knew what sex was before I was 10, I knew how it worked by 12, and I was trying (and largely failing) to get into girl's pants at 13. Yeah, there's a learning curve, but most teens at least know the basics.

So you're saying kids should get severe trauma then? Fantastic point.

>the talk
kill yourself retarded amerifat
no one has 'the talk' in our country
I learned what sex was from my older friends when I was like 8 or 9 yo
at that time I also started collecting magazines
I discovered masturbation when I was 10 or 11 (started watching porn around that time too)

That's because I didn't want to.

The first time anyone does ANYTHING they have a tendency to not know what to do. This is normal? Just because they masturbate or don't masturbate doesn't mean they do or don't want to fuck anyone. That choice is always up to the individual. Common sense.

>fag

And you're a severely autistic pedo.

The analogy was based on the process of puberty and the end product it yields. Comparing the complete sandwich to a fully developed woman.

It's only uncomfortable because it's been ingrained into you to be. It was perfectly fine to have 12 year old brides not too long ago, only problem was the 12 year old didn't usually have a choice. Even still, it's mind-numbingly retarded that minors are deemed able to consent among themselves for sex and relationships, but not with mature adults.

>So, you understood what sex was when you were 12 or 13
Nope. Wasn't till I was 15 when I understood the basics.

because you were a closeted faggot and still are

Severe trauma? No, I'm saying that all kids will be traumatized in some form or another as they grow up. I've seen small children severely traumatized by their mothers taking away their candy because it's bad for them. Should we lock those mothers up?

if you were offered some pussy at 12/13, would you be traumatized?

>I take it you just didn't get laid much when you were a teen?
Barely anyone has.
> Because I knew what sex was before I was 10
good for you
>but most teens at least know the basics
false

Confused not traumatized. Its about perspective.

Your own words contradict you -

>>I didn't know jack shit about sex until I was 12 and that was just the talk. Then when I was 13 I was introduced to porn and barely knew a thing about that. Then at 14 I figured out how to masturbate correctly.

It sounds like you had more details than you are wanting to admit to in this conversation.

Kys

You're misunderstanding what trauma is. There's a difference between being sad and having trauma. You know that right?

how do you still draw breath?
how did you not die as a babie, considering that you were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?

Incorrect. (big surprise) I only like chicks. Sorry maybe you'll find someone some day. Probably not since you're a kid fucker lol.

When someone takes candy away from a 3 year old, it looks pretty traumatic to me. Can you please explain to me how a 12 year old giving a guy a blow job could possibly be more 'traumatic' than that?

Sorry I meant to say that I understand a tiny bit about sex at 12 from the talk. My mistake.

>different species
You don't know the definition of species do you. For reference, a species is any group of organisms able to produce viable offspring together. Girls under 18 are still very capable of getting pregnant. In fact, there is a correlation between younger mothers and lower rates of birth defects.

Not answering that question because it's retarded. Google it.

lol

No you fucking moron, we were programmed to find girls attractive when they develop the sexual characteristics that display fertility.

You can't bring it up because you're a clueless retard who probably sprays spaghetti everywhere when you try to articulate the vapid feelings that you form your opinions from.

Sad, really. Someone should have taken the time to educate you earlier. Either way, take an attractive male 12 year old, and an attractive female 12 year old - stick them on an island alone, and they will figure things out. Not much understanding is needed.

Nobody cares kidfucker.

Whats the difference between a 17yo and a 18yo?

I have googled it. It's absolutely not traumatizing at all, and millions of 12 year olds around the world have done it. More than once, and grown up to be happy and healthy adults.

TEENAGERS ARE NOT KIDS

they are as capable as understanding things as you and me and they would most certainly like to get laid
god fucking damn it

Eh nobody I know knew jack shit about sex until they were 12. Nobody even cared. The thought of anything sexual back then was disgusting. Nobody wants to know about cum at 12 year of age.

You have all just realized your father is attracted to underage girls.

Use proper sites please because what you said makes no sense.

I knew that already. So?

>Barely anyone has.
This is objectively and demonstratively false. Do you really think most people don't get laid until they're in their twenties?

>This is objectively and demonstratively false. Do you really think most people don't get laid until they're in their twenties
In 1st world countries yes. If not then 18s or 19s. Depends on where you live. In Japan its like 14 because of the lack of sex going on.

You, sadly, are insane.

true

What is I told you, I'm below 20 you furry fucks

I have to cite references to the fact that millions of 12 year old girls around the world have given guys blow jobs and grown up normal? You're too detached with reality to have a conversation with. Good luck :D.

Possibly insane. But I'm not wrong. Girls even thought sex was gross until they were 14. Boys thought sex was gross until 13. That is when puberty starts so of course they will grow to like sex. But I forgot pedos like you can't understand jack shit about puberty so I won't bother to explain since you wont understand either way.

Link me to it then. I wanna see if you're lying or not.

Can't even escape moral fags on other image hosting site (imgur) while posting legal stuff. I guess the reaction is necessary because more people would acting rather than just doing if it wasn't for the social stigma.

According to the CDC the average age for an American to loose their virginity is 17.1 years old.

What lewd things would you do to Iori?

1 year. The difference is superficial and cultural. In some it's the difference between 12-13, 13-14, 14-15, 15-16.

Different states have different laws for the age of consent.

>"I've never gone through puberty!"

I know you haven't. That explains why you seem so out of touch with reality.

All of them