Anybody here ever been to or lived in Detroit? any stories?

anybody here ever been to or lived in Detroit? any stories?

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yes, no

fair enough

like anyone spent much time there in the last year maybe?

Fine, I live here but I'm tired right now. Any specific questions?

oh for sure. like what is your neighborhood like for example? how long have you lived there? how do you like it?

I technically live in Hazel Park, 1/2 mile north of the border. It's quiet, lots of renters, small 1940's houses. Some have been kept up, some have not. I'm restoring mine. I've been here two years, and I quite like it. It's cheap enough to buy a house relatively young and have a place of your own to customize.

right i've heard that for a bit. if you had to generalize what regions of the city are still more kept up and populated?

also what are your feelings on the forthcoming robocop statue?

the place is having a revitalization from the inside out. Some of the old and truly beautiful buildings are being saved and some areas are almost all vacant lots by this point. Starting at the river and moving up Woodward the first mile or three are getting good, the rest are still run down (but a good place to build your prime house before everyone else gets there).

I've heard about that statue for a while, I always told my friends it should replace the Joe Louis fist (that's got great placement).

It's a shit-hole that will be overrun by sandniggers in the next 5 years, in a state run by crooks nearly as bad as the ones in Chicago.

Huh ok so maybe not as easy to say like the whole west or east side is better or worse (like Chicago, STL, etc)

Lol yeah forgot about that. Robocop is way cooler imo

also, so i know it's pretty top tier on crime rates every year and i hear a lot of stuff, but is the element of that a bit like glorified almost do you feel? or do you actually feel pretty sketched out on a regular basis maybe in most parts?

lol yo Illinois is just straight fucked in countless ways

I will be completely honest with you, I have not locked my house, car, or garage in the two years I have lived here. My neighborhood is fine, I run down to hamtramack all the time for food and it seems ok as well. The infrastructure is shit, water pipes causing street floods, sewer lines causing sink holes, roads so bumpy that when you drive your girlfriend somewhere the look on her face makes you feel like a cuckold.

I will admit to not knowing a ton about the neighborhoods, but I don't have any real issues living here.

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crainsdetroit.com/article/20160405/BLOG016/160409917/joel-landy-begins-rebuild-of-james-scotts-spite-house

That guy does wonders to keep Detroit looking good

hell yeah wow ok. yeah i've heard there aren't working hydrants or street lights in some neighborhoods.

Just curious, I've read about hamtramck a good deal, how far is your area from there? how long of a drive for example?

nice! gunna peep these

The lights were all recently redone with LEDs and aluminum wire (not worth stealing). It's an odd balancing act between infrastructure good enough to last, but cheap enough not to be stolen. I go to Hamtramack fairly regularly for polish food, just 10 minutes or so south of me no matter the traffic. I also like visiting the original Buddy's Pizza location just down I75. There's absolutely tons of good food hidden in detroit, I remember being very surprised by this place when I went once:

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woah damn very cool. yeah i have one friend who spent a day in hamtramack and said it seemed totally fine. said he had great food. seems like a pretty interesting diverse spot now.

Ok so also just curious, why did you move there? For a job? for all the cheap housing? may I ask how much your rent is for example in that neighborhood

Close to work (Warren), cheap housing (10yr mortgage on a $65k house at 3% is pretty cheap) and the hackerspaces are pretty nice

damn this la dolce vita place looks really legit (bonus points for the name)

It's the real deal, super nice high end food. Also that train station has windows now (and would be a killer hotel)

ok right on yeah that's pretty good. what are the jobs like? i mean are there any? FTR I work in beer/wine sales, but also asking in general

lots of microbreweries (b.nektar mead comes to mind), I'm an engineer, lots of jobs for that too. Some dude is just pouring money into this city, the owner (CEO?) of quicken loans I think? Also, Rocket Fiber, gigabit internet up and down for like $80/mo

oh right on yeah I sell b. nektar. Wow that's cool I'd wondered how the overall engineering industry is fairing after decades of that seemingly taking a hit. huh more investors wild.

the rocket fiber maybe just sold me

ok so also is it really a fairly common opinion that this massive influx that's been sorta likely for a few years is really happening?

the b.nektar taproom and distillery are walking distance from me, they debut new and exclusive flavors/mixes here a lot and have good food trucks come around all the time

yes, it's happening, there is super expensive housing going in down town (for employees of big companies like Amazon with offices here I expect)

oh wow yeah that's great. def know they make stuff I never even get to sell, no distro

25 y/o male nurse born and raised in Warren, about 2 miles from the Detroit city limit. AMA

ok sure. are there big corps like that moving in much actually? like any others to name?

cool. anything you care to share long what the other user and I have been talking?

what's your take on the crime the last couple years compared to your whole life there?

Amazon and Quicken Loans are the two big ones I know, but there's plenty of 'come to detroit, we don't suck' propoganda that's out there I'm sure. We still have GM, Ford, Chrysler, and local branches of just about every tier 1 automotive supplier in the area (Denso, ZF TRW, Bosch...).

Honestly most people I know don't have much direct issue with crime in the city, you have to be in sketchy areas or live within the city to have issues as far as I've seen.

The downtown area is secure as hell, if you're within a 10 minute walk of the stadiums or the casinos and such you wouldn't have to worry about violence. A friend who lives in the city has seen a lot of the hard drug users and dealers cleared out by the feds, there used to be some interesections/corridors notorious for it but now they're abandoned.

The city is actually a rather unknown destination for anyone who likes good food or craft beer especially. Lots of downtown districts like greek town or china town have amazing food in the price range of 8-20 bucks for an entree.

The downtown has been improving steadily since I've grown up, as well as the other nearby areas of the city like midtown or corktown. Lots of it has to do with Quicken Loans, the CEO basically moved his business empire to Detroit which helps a lot with jobs and security. Quicken has something like 700 monitored cameras on their property so the police get a lot of free help from them.

right on. huh actual major city stuff still for sure. I know I just hear about the insane city debt and spread to such a large number of different creditors. def wondered how/if that can be offset longterm

Oh, and this may seem off topic, but there's a really good dairy that still does home delivery. If you come by (even to visit) try Calder's Dairy. Their ice cream, milk, butter... everything is good.

Don't forget the Mexican district, it's great even for grocery stores that carry specialty ingredients and drinks

And yeah seems the spending is along side that of anywhere, even like college towns and such.

Any areas you'd can specifically name that would be worth avoiding? or is it harded to blanket it like that?

niiice good to know! def like food. love polish food so gotta check out hamtramack

to expand on the food topic, it's seriously a great casual dining scene. I didn't realize how good it was till I traveled and interned in some other major cities. It's been a family tradition of ours to go eat at a different place 2-3 times a month, this has been going on for about 10 years now. Never been to any super upscale (30+ dollars per entree) joints but for typical local restaraunt grade there is a ton of options really well received locally or nationally.

Slows BBQ, Mexican Village, HopCat, The Pegasus, Red Coat Tavern, and The Mercury Bar are some of my favorites.

damn very cool. all seems very affordable too. gunna google these

I don't know too much about the borders of those areas, but there are some major roads which alternate between busy/secure areas and very sketchy stretches. Gratiot and Cass are two such roads.

The subdivisions without much vacant houses tend to be fine, honestly your visual first impression is usually pretty accurate about threat level. And of course being on foot or alone is way different than being on a bike, or in a vehicle. I'm comfortable driving through some very anxiety inducing areas, but if I were walking though blocks with no street lights and only vacant houses or closed businesses I'd be concerned.

either of you ever seen any live music there much by chance?

ha! I have leftovers from the red coat tavern in my fridge right now. All those are god places. I'd add polish village cafe, polonia, vincetta's garage, one eye'd betty's, and dakota rathskeller

TSO was here for new year's

hmm ok word word. yeah pretty cool how other user mentioned some LED lights being put in place.

but yeah that does give some insight. because at least a couple-few years ago that's mostly what I heard just like it's visually sort of nuts your first impressions. I've been in some pretty bad spots of some cities so trying to gauge here

ah shit i'm just putting all these in a note tab

For pics of the kind of areas which tend to make me nervous, just peruse this blog.

The urban decay really does act like a disease, first one or two houses or businesses go then property values fall, the reputation falls, and before you know it there's 3 more, which make it worse, and so on.

goobingdetroit.com/

oh, add noble fish too (japanese grocery/sushi parlor)

huh ok cool checkin this. so that maybe explains how a totally functional home is a pile of rubble in as quick as like 3 years, or so i've heard

hell yes. any vietnamese neighbors with good food by chance?

user is right, it's called the broken window principle/effect

I like Thang Long Thai & Vietnamese

damn ok this is good insight. i've def wondered a lot how this is all happening/happened so infectiously

>goobingdetroit.com/
woah ok so this blog is totally along the lines of stuff i've heard

I'm working on doing the opposite. I have enough money to just buy stuff, but I buy something sorta shitty for cheap and refurbish it meticulously. We have lots of antique malls in the surrounding areas which are good for finding real quality antiques

hell yeah that's great. would love to see this happen overtime. sounds somewhat inevitable from what i'm hearing.

anyone seen any of the farms that are supposedly going into like detroit proper i think? like in place of stretchs of neighborhoods that are gone

is that a thing?

user 1 signing off, gotta be up for brunch

heard about the urban farms, never seen them

hey thanks for your input

so guess I gotta ask any particular story of some of the fucked up stuff you've seen? like specifically in an area you maybe wouldn't normally feel paranoid

first of all, hazel park is not detroit. hazel park is about as much detroit as ferndale or royal oak. you live in an inner-ring suburb, not detroit.

secondly, if you lived in detroit and suggested, out loud, that the joe louis, black power, statue be replaced with robo-cop, you would likely be killed, and rightly so.

It is so easy to go to south of Gross Point and randomly kill niggers. Just stop your car, scream "Niggers!!!" and a few show up. Some head shots form a pistol. They drop like dead niggers. Throw around any color hanky you want to piss off whatever gangs have the blocks. Show up six months later. Kill more random niggers via same head shots. Drop different color hankies. Then watch the Craig's List posts. Cash in on a movie deal. Get an advance check. Very easy money.

Ate there for restaurant week like 2 days ago. It was decent. The Octopus Ceviche was solid.

New detroitfag reporting in. ama

LOL ok right on cool cool. you said you're in warren right? ok i've heard that a bit just in passing but know one has ever quite broken it down as such or explained. guess why detroit proper seems to have such low population but outer is still pretty populated it sounds

so you just essentially probably don't even really mess with inside the city day to day?

alright what are your experiences with the general violence level there? you live in DET proper?

ever see any live music?

and hell yes. i'm just into any half legit italian really. a lot is often so bad

I live 15 mins away.
>Met a homeless man on the riverwalk called slim
>tells me about his crack life
>he becomes obsessed with my boxing gloves
>tells me he needs them to fight the bad guys off the streets

I'm a white dude with a white brother and I've been yelled at and swore at just for diving down some streets in really rough neighborhoods. Like 'get the fuck out of our neighborhood'. Also I'm talking actual neighborhood streets not main roads, where there are maybe 10 burned down houses on a 20 house block.

Still some thoroughly fucked up places.

So fucking good. And so cheap for good sushi.

Nah, this place is boring.

Haven't seen much violence. Just random fights that you'd see anywhere.

I don't live in Detroit proper but I go there quite a bit. Definitely have seen tons of music downtown over the last 15 years or so.

There are great after hours techno clubs that sell drinks and bang till like 5-7 am regularly

ok sure. i've been in that exact scenario in a few cities. gotcha. that's strangely manageable to me

Glad to see some Michigan bros here. RIP Mike Ilitch amirite

oh hell yeah. det is pretty synonymous with techo, dif kinds of house music, etc. any bars/clubs in particular?

Last season walking from the lot to the Tigers game a hobo blasted me for my shoes lol he yelled "I hope your motherfucking shoes explode!"

lol alright more detroit stories i say

If you're interested in food here are some more local greats:
Republic
Bucharest Grill
Seva
Mudgie's
Lafayette Coney Island (classic)
Jolly Pumpkin
Tons of good food in Ferndale & Ann Arbor

Probably Anything here: detroitrestaurantweek.com/restaurants.php

ok very cool jotting these down also.

I actually sell Jolly Pumpkin also for my job- great stuff

The Works does after hours stuff. I went to a place in greektown recently that is a normal bar but they occasionally black out the windows and open till 6, Asher Perkins was on that night. The Grenadier club. Tires. Occasionally North End Studios. Other things just kinda pop up for a single party then disappear sometimes. During the Movement festival parties are everywhere constantly.

You sell hopslam (Bells?) if not ur fucking up hard time.

hahah i do not. I am asked that constantly. it is a good beer for sure

very cool to know, taking all these down also. that's another long time interest. just all the techno and house for sure (footwork, ghetto house, etc too)

What city do you work in? Sorry if you already mentioned this

no that's cool- rather not specify. but i'm in illinois

prefer not specify just because I've mentioned my job

Proper Detroit electronic music history is all about Techno. House somewhat, but that was more a Chicago thing. Footwork & Juke were almost exclusively Chicago.

That's not to say Chicago acts don't come here to share the love.

Actually the day DJ Rashad died he was supposed to do a show in Detroit with DJ Spinn and I was gonna go till I heard the news. Spinn came anyways and apparently killed it, though I didn't go

Fair enough. I'll be in Chicago next weekend. I'm sure I'll bump into you.

oh yeah no doubt. Know footwork/juke is a TOTAL Chi thing. I just know there are maybe like a few FW producers up there that aren't too well known.

Figure techno is still unstoppable.

Woah that's nuts. I have mutual friends with those guys and I know a lot of those ppl always talked about how DET was one of their favorite spots

haha see ya there ! (actually won't be in chi next weekend anyhow)

Spinn is gonna be at Movement this year. If you're trying to see music in Detroit, that's the weekend to come for sure.

Actually, I saw Rashad in Chicago at pitchfork a few years back, were you there by any chance?

Oh ok hell yeah. I'm lucky to get to see a lot of great footwork producers- never caught him though. Not totally familiar with that fest actually, googling

No I wasn't. I've seen footage from I believe that set. Still never been to P4K actually. Saw Traxman not long ago that was insane

It's one of the premier electronic music festivals the world over. Especially if you're into regular old techno. There are typically 20+ after parties a night. Days are hot and muggy and bass as fuck right on the river. I love it so much, and I'm not typically a music festival type.

Lol. I've seen that video too and i can see myself in it. I love traxxman. Life-Life Life Life-Life Life Life-Life Life Life-Life Life Life-Life Life Life-Life Life Life-Life Life Life-Life Life Life-Life Life

Haha are you the guy hopping up and down?

Hell yeah his set was insane. freaks--freaks freaks freaks freaks--freaks freaks freaks freaks--freaks freaks freaks

yeah def heard of it bout to check it out. ha same. fests totally my thing. i mean i'd love to go to sonar, unsound. those are a bit dif tho obviously

*aren't totally

No, I'm towards the end. That dude in the red cut-off shirt on stage spent a decent bit of that set staring right at me with a straight/slightly angry face shaking his head no really creapily

haha woah he looks familiar actually. i know the two heavier dudes on stage. both great producers

Well man, I'm out. You should seriously make the trip out for Movement if you even remotely think you'd like it. It's the least BS festival I've ever been to. It's not full of the kind of hipster bullshit you see at pitchfork, it's mostly genuine techno. Tons of Detroit classic acts every year. The belleville three are playing all together. Those guys invented techno. So many other good acts. So many other classic detroit acts. Carl Craig, Kevin Saunderson, Robert Hood etc.

And if you're into other stuff they throw some bones like Juicy J, DJ Spinn, Thundercat, etc.

It's getting expensive, but i'll gladly pay for a weekend pass. cheers

Massive amounts of trash littered throughout the city. Area by the packard plant is filled with vagrant niggers. Priveleged normies stick out like sore thumbs