The only two effective ways to maga and completely eliminate immigration

The only two effective ways to maga and completely eliminate immigration.

1) make it illegal, or tax goods produced on foreign soil, by American companies, to be sold to American citizens.

The tax should be high enough to make hiring sweatshop/cheap labor overseas unlucrative.

Simple. Very fast working.

2) make the laws hiring illegals more harsh. Illegals can no longer survive once they hop the borders.

No fence or wall in a million years will keep Mexicans out if they can sustain themselves by taking cheap under the table jobs from small business owners, rich families laying housekeepers, and farmers paying cheap farm hands.

Simple. Fast. Effective.

So, I ask fellow Americans, why hasn't this happened yet?

Millions upon millions of jobs going back to the people. It's so simple an autistic Sup Forumstard can think of it and our government has struggled for decades.

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Cool story bro, but when the last time you fapped to boi pussy?

Seriously though. Why can't this happen? Please give some arguments. I'm very curious.

Why won't this work? Why won't it go through into law? What the fuck?

Im fapping right now.

Because Obama will never allow it.

If you understood how civilizations advance from dirt to what they are today, you would eat your words. The key to a higher quality of life and a more advanced civilization is decentralized manufacturing and labor. When you have different people doing different things, you can produce more cheaply and efficiently than if you grow your own crops and build your own house. You're proposing a North Korea-esque economic plan that dictates we produce all of the things we need. This would severely hurt our economy and quality of life.

Because without trade, we would have to produce everything ourselves.

capitalism dont work that way

>key is decentralized manufacturing and labor
Are you pure autism in human form or just an incredibly retarded faggot?

How the hell can you argue these multi billion dollar companies, scraping and sleeving every last cent for their bottom line, not giving a shit about American jobs, could be a bad thing if we were to force them to do otherwise.

Why would any of those stop trade?

What the fuck? It was working just fine until the past couple decades corps. got greedy and wanted to swap paying Americans min wage for poor fucks taking. 20 cents/hr.

What the hell is wrong with these dumb asses itt?

>Picking and choosing what freedoms you want, disregarding the constitution.

>Wanting to get rid of the cheap labor force that is now building the US.

>Trying to change the problem externally instead of internally.

Yeah m8

Please go read a book or at least listen to a TED talk or something about economics before you ask me if I'm autistic. Please. You're embarrassing yourself.
You want all American companies to produce all goods exclusively on American soil, effectively killing trade for these companies and making America a slave to foreign companies even more than we already are.

Sounds a lot like Bernie Sanders to me.

Its not picking and choosing any freedoms. What?

One is a tax. It's not someones "right" to not be taxed. We're talking about trilliinaires btw.

The other is making it more illegal to do something that is already illegal. The current punishments don't scare business owners/rich people enough to make them not hire illegals.

Jesus Christ these are good ideas people. I didn't think people are this dumb.

Ah wait, I got it. A Mexican cleans your house eh?

Did you take 9th grade geography? The highest societies and economies don't manufacture, they provide services. By outsourcing jobs to cheaper labor, we are freeing up workers to do more service oriented jobs.

Do you like freedom?
>Yes :)

Do you like capitalism?
>Yes :)

Ah great so you must be ok with my company making more money and gaining on the market by shipping the workforce to a foreign country then. Giving more return to my investors. Im very glad you agree.

> you greedy fuck fuck you die ina Fire MAGA MAGA TAX EVERYTHING

If you like your idea of a self contained society where the country completely provides for itself without outsourcing labor of services, we would all be happy for you to leave and start a new life in North Korea. They have the exact same ideals as you and are literally starving.

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Ohhh you get your info on economics from Ted talks. Makes sense now.

>not believing jobs being outsourced to non-Americans is a good thing

Wow,just wow.

Let's dumb this down. What's better.

A company hiring an American out of college so that he can pay his 150k student loan off before he's 65

Or

Same company hiring an Indian for. 50 per hour and same American being unemployed ages 22-35

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>Decentralizing tho

Automation is going to displace more rural manufacturing than anything else. This idea of immigrants taking jobs is greatly outdated.

Immigrant labor, especially seasonal immigrant labor fulfilles niches that if done by Americans will greatly increase the cost of that product. Picking fruit? When there were immigrant shortages food rotted. Americans would not do the jobs at the wages offered. Especially considering that it requires them to relocate hundreds of more miles for a short period of time for a low paying job only to have it shut down weeks later.

>Asks Sup Forums to explain why his idea is retarded
>Somebody tells him why his idea is retarded
>WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING AUTISTIC FAGGOT RETARD
I haven't seen this before

>You want all American companies to produce all goods exclusively on American soil, effectively killing trade for these companies and
How dumb can this get. You are lost.

Those companies can still trade the final goods to other countries, ya dip.

In the same exact process. An American will be getting paid to produce it instead of some other dipshit in a foreign country.

How is this in any way socialist? What!?! Please explain

Do you NOT want a higher chance to get a job Billy?

The dipshit often does the lowest profit margin part of the entire process. The people at Apple in California make a ton of money and the people who manufacture the final products are the lowest end part of the entire system.

I suggested you educate yourself with some layman-targeted media so as to not hurt your little brain.
Yeah, because that's how capitalism works. If you want socialism, by all means go for it but taxing the shit out of all imported goods isn't how you do it

I pretty much only emply Mexicans or anything south of the border.

I rather pay 10$ an hour for a labor force that is very happy with that pay and actually strives to make me money than pay someone 15 or 17 that is going to bitch and moan and expect everything from me while calling OSHA on me.

Fuck a job. I am self employed. Be a capitalist.

What country is going to buy it from us at that price of manufacturing? You are arguing for high wages, yet you don't realize the same rules apply to us and that's why nobody imports goods from the us, because it costs so much more to make it here. Jesus apply your logic to what you are saying and you will realize it doesn't make sense

Reminder that punitive taxes are a far left idea, anti free market, and anti capitalism.

If you believe we should control the market with taxes you are a leftist, not a conservative.

Read 40 Hour workweek by Tim Ferriss. You can replace a lot of your customer service with Indian companies and pay a tiny fraction of the cost and have a 24/7 staff of people who are highly motivated to work.

$6-$10 per hour in most of the world gets you an incredibly motivated employee. $17 per hour gets you an American who drags ass.

>Millions upon millions of jobs going back to the people.

Millions upon of millions of jobs that Americans won't do.

>make it illegal, or tax goods produced on foreign soil, by American companies, to be sold to American citizens.The tax should be high enough to make hiring sweatshop/cheap labor overseas unlucrative.
1. Who will ultimately pay for this higher tax? Consumers. You don't think all the applefags would cough up a few more c-notes for their ifones? Because they will.
2. Make overseas labor unlucrative. The usa isn't the only consumer in the world. Apple will gladly take their wares elsewhere. You can bet mexico & canada will jump at the opportunity. Not ifones in the usa and murricans will simply jump the border to get one. Who will get the sales tax then? Mexico & canada

They don't produce any more because they're all fucking outsourced dumb shit.

Clothing

Electronics

"high tech" as you say

Fucking knickknacks

Everything

Mostly owned by Americans corporations. ALL outsourcing the production of this shit for the CHEAP LABOR. No company wants to pay minimum wage.

How can you be this stupid?

Let's just take clothing for one damn example. Just one would bring thousands maybe hundreds of thousands of jobs back to America. Think of the mall. Go to the mall and go into any clothing shop. Think of how many Americans aren't able to get jobs making those clothes.

Think of all the shit being made in Indonesia, India, China. Every single label. Now imagine if everything HAD to be made here. The lower middle class and poor even could get decent paying, decent laboring jobs again. Like it was pre 1950.

How can so many people be this fucking brainwashed?

It would be a hit on companies bottom lines for a while having to hire Americans, yes, but ultimately it would re-invigor the middle class almost immediately.

There's no such thing as jobs Americans won't do, only wages Americans won't work for.

Your argument is:
>we need immigrants in the country so we can exploit them for cheap labor!!1!

>My Freedom
It'll never fucking in a million years be YOUR freedom. It's the 1%s freedom.

Nm I'm taking to a lost soul. So brainwashed by the actual 1% you're defending them at the cost of yours and other fellow Americans like yourselves chance at a decent life. Fuck you and your dumb shit. You are the problem.

American labor can't make low end things. We can only produce high end things. American labor does go to film production and we produce the highest grossing films in the world. We have high end engineers and designers in California that have a product consumed all over the world. We can't produce low quality goods and expect it to work. For the cheap shit people expect it has to be made in China or Mexico.

But when it comes to producing brooms we can't do it competitively. We can not make a competitive broom and export it. If you want to manufacture things at American wages it has to be very high quality products. Not Chevrolets.

Everything you've said makes sense. Wow I can see that I was wrong the whole time. Thanks for opening my mind

Just chiming in to say your argument is basically admitting that modern capitalism requires extreme exploitation to even be a viable economic model.

I don't have to read anything, i know how to make money.

I rather pay a Mexican who is happy with the work and works hard to make ME money 10 an hour, than paying an American 15 or 17 an hour who is going to expect benefits from me, and yearly raises and two to three weeks time off and all the holidays and my daughters virgen hole. No thanks.

Look at the company American Apparel. They are the largest clothing manufacturer in the United States and are based in Los Angeles. They have been struggling for years even though they produce a quality product. I have been a fan of the products for a long time but they cost drastically more than the foreign produced. In some cases its 25% more, in sometimes its 2.5 times the price.

We can't make cheap clothing in America. We can make expensive clothing, but not cheap clothing.

That's the way capitalism works my guy. I actually agree with the way northern Europe is running their economies. Socialism is the future, but to argue with pea brain here you have to stoop closer to his level and pretend you're a capitalist like he thinks he is.

Oh my god

How the hell is taxing hiring outsourced workers, that could be going to your neighbor, self contained fuck society? Holy shit.

Companies use the fact they're multi billionaires and abuse it. The abuse it in that no other small businesses can afford to create mills, plants, factories overseas then pay people literal cents on the dollar to foreigners compared to what they used to pay Americans for the same job.

How can you all be this fucking stupid?

Companies taking manufacturing outside the country is what KILLED the middle class you moron fucks.

How the hell can you argue for these prices? What is wrong with you? Where's your sense of pride for your country? These scheming fucking corps thinking of any way to rip off US the consumer by not hiring us, but selling this shitty shit to us, with no return. It's not how an economy should work. If you want one that's going to be self sustaining.

Soon it's going to be no one can afford to buy any of their shit, because no one has a job to afford it. All of our jobs are GONE

Where do you think they all went? Where are all the factories? And don't fucking say we don't produce anything. Are you seriously that fucking dumb to where you think because it says "china" on it, that means it's completely made by them? No they just make the shit you dumb fucks. Our 1% gets all the money for it. While giving nothing in return like it used to be when we had actual factories and warehouses here.

So what you are saying is;

I rather have no money than a little money.

This is american values?

I thought American values were about working hard and making something out of yourself, not sitting at home insted of going to an employment agency because it ONLY pays 9 dollars an hour instead of 11.

Read it anyway.

The Magamen basically want to control the labor pool and create a labor shortage. Donald Trump is all about creating leverage. If you are an employer you will not be able to do what you want to do and will have no choice but to employ expensive American labor.

>immigrants taking jobs

Please read what OP wrote

Immigration is number 2)

Our long gone lower middle class in America is due to 1)

You talked about centralized labor like it was happening in America at all or never did.

We did have labor here at one point. Then we didn't. Now our middle class has disappeared.

Why do you think that is Mr. Smarty?

Why oh why did we once have a strong middle class where a father's income alone in the 40s and 50s could buy a house by himself? Now an entire family can't afford one?

Hmm couldn't have been all those factories and labor jobs we once had was it? Mr. Smarty?

When you go shopping do you buy the most expensive goods you can? Or do you shop around based on price?

>bringing apple or tech jobs to a knife fight
Just go away. You don't understand.

The products that people made in the 1940s and 1950s would not be remotely viable in today's economy.

We also produce way more cars in the US today than we did during that period of time but due to modern manufacturing techniques they are far less labor intensive.

>Im not smart enough to make money so i want to pick and choose what parts of capitalism suit me and my opinions.

Take this from a former porfag who now owns a couple of businesses;

1. You are either a troll or really fucking retarded.
2. You can make money. You choose not too. You choose to complain about ME making money, because YOU cant.

If you dont want to wake up at 4am to get in line at your local staffing agency, then its your fault you are poor. Not mine. I have been there user.

One of the largest and most successful companies in the United States. It is completely relevant. The actual manufacturing of their products is a very low margin part of the system.

I bet everyone itt bashing OPs topic also think it's a right and their freedums to be able to move a corporations HQ to a different country in order to dodge taxes. They also probably think this stimulates economy.

I can't believe the stupidity in this thread. Good points OP.

The reason it will never happen is that there are agents that exploit labor, and want the cheapest, most pliant labor possible. And they run the system.

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? "No," says the man in Washington, "it belongs to the poor." "No," says the man in the Vatican, "it belongs to God." "No," says the man in Moscow, "it belongs to everyone." I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different.

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You are replying in a troll thread fagit.

>screaming socialism over the thought of one tax
Keep sticking up for multi billionaires because you think you'll become one one day.

The shit I'm talking about would effect you in no negative way. These corporations are so far out of anyone's league, have all the laws loopholed, and ass fucking the consumer on a daily basis.

Keep sticking up for them though. Idk what hope there is for you. What ever happened to patriotism?

You are trying to fix a problem inherent to capitalism by hurting the consumer even more by taxing imported goods. Why not fix it by taxing the profits of the"trillionares" as you call them.

Also remember that there was not very much global manufacturing after WW2. American manufacturing had very little competition and as soon as the rest of the world built up their manufacturing the US quickly lose their edge in the global market place.

The reality is that Americans need to produce things which are viable on a global market. most of the world is NOT the United States and there are billions of potential customers in the world and cheap American goods are not viable as exports.

There is a reason why Chevrolet doesn't export very much beyond North America. Its considered a low quality product in Europe and Asia.

hahahahahah TED, so we can learn about how being obese is healthy and why we live in a rape culture. GTFO

This is exactly why corporations pay overseas labor. The difference between you and every small business owners and then corporations is, they can fucking afford it.

They effectively enialated the middle class in the past 40 years by doing so.

Why do you all defend this? Don't you want your strong middle class back you fucks? This is the reason why it is gone.

Please go ahead and try to make up some bullshit excuse as to why else it's gone. Please anyone. I'm begging here. I need to hear the bullshit.

You misinterpreted my argument. I'm saying if you don't like capitalisms flaws, fix them in a way that works, not the Humpty Dumpty shit you're proposing

Let me explain this slowly for your inbred edgy brain to comprehend.
1.- Look around the basement your parents still allow you to use. What do you see? First of, a monitor. What brand is it? Is it made in the USA? How much did you paid for it? Would you pay more double if it bears a Made in USA sticker on the back? How many brands of monitors are proudly Made in USA? Do they offer you as much features and quality as a Korean or Japanese brand? Now, think about your computer, how much components are Made in USA? How about the clothes you're wearing? Do you think because your mom bought them on Walmart with a major retail USA label, they are Made in USA? Now look at your appliances, your cellphone, the lightbulbs, etc. How does it for you to have cheap, reliable products in your life that are not Made in USA? That kind of cost/benefit makes you have more money to spend on more products that can fulfill more necessities. Maybe 80% of the things you use on a daily basis are foreign. Boy, sure must suck, huh?

2.- Making illegal aliens (Fun fact: Not all of them are Mexicans, some are from Argentina, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Bolivia, Peru, Haiti, etc) have a sterner way to fill the jobs that nobody wants to do for so little pay, will only increase the money someone has to pay to an American for him to take the job. Would you take a job a tomato picker to contribute to the proud chain of production of the USA? Fuck no, you want a cool job with cool benefits that you can be proud of... but still, you want to go to the market and find your tomatoes, lettuce, cabbages at a cheap price. Right? Would you pay 4 times the price of a vegetable for a proudly Made in USA tomato picked by an all-american worker?

Think about it, son. Your wage would not suffice to live in you idiotic utopia. Globalization is a lesser evil that makes life easier.

TED is shit, but it will at least provide OP with the shrivel of intelligence that he needs to argue his point.

They bought it before pretty much every corporation outsourced every little thing.

Can ya think back a few decades? Try it. How did those companies become multi billionaires? They started here.

AN example

Ford

Now they manufacture MOSTLY out of country. HQ s still in USA, but most done overseas. Almost every other car you see is now foreign. A lot of them owned by American companies, but manufacturing overseas because it's so damn cheap.

Sooo many other companies like this.

What's the harm in asking a company making billions to employ Americans once again? Like it used to be the entire country's existence? Only this and the last generation companies started doing this in China and other places. It effectively killed our middle class.

Its not controlling the market. It's closing a "loophole" to scrape a few more bucks, from American consumers, adding to bottom lines.

How can you say this shit with a straight face? It's completely unfair.

They bought it before pretty much every other country outcompeted us labor wise. Please read

Its gonne because they are lazy fucks who wont work for my 10 an hour.

Incompetence is not my fault.

The Mexicans make a lot out of my 10 an hour, im friends with a few of them, ive been to their houses.

Unfortunately Americans dont want to work. They feel entitled.to have everything handed on a plate. Meanwhile Jose is eating alll he can while Tod is at home on his computer complaining on an image board.

Only a fool that doesn't know how science works would want to eliminate immigration and still think they can remain competitive as a nation.

You want to tax the wealthy?

Tax land ownership outside of one's primary residence. Wealthy people own multiple homes as a means of wealth preservation in a protected asset that is taxed at a very low rate (1% in most of the country).

You want to tax the wealthy? Add a 1% on all financial transactions at the banking level. All bank transfers, checks, debits, withdraws, everything at all levels. This would cost the average person nothing but wealthy people who flip lots of money around would pay every time.

So, you're saying you'd rather pay for them Americans with your tax dollars because they can't get a job because American manufacturing is completely dead at the moment? Mc Donald's can only employ so many.

Can't do because they're long gone. Lmao what?

Manufacturing is not dead. You said yourself; "there are wages Americans wont work for"

You yourself stated the true problem.

Americans are very good at high end manufacturing but not stuff on the low end, which is most things. You want to pay someone $30 per hour to manufacture it better be something high end or else the whole process isn't viable.

>im just going to dodge your points and evry other solid argument in this thread because i dont like it and it makes me have to think of a real response that i cant justify.

Yeah m8

>1. Who will ultimately pay for this higher tax? Consumers. You don't think all the applefags would cough up a few more c-notes for their ifones? Because they will.
No

Yeah, yeah, companies would try to charge 500.00 for something that was once 90.00 purchase right? But, how did it work before when America had manufacturing? It happened once before. The market, being the great thing that it was and always will be, would equalize itself like it does.

Prices may try to skyrocket to compensate companies on having to pay (omg so demanding) minimum wage once again. Then if companies didn't lower their prices, they wouldn't get bought and subsequently go out of business.

The multimillionaire corporations would ultimately pay by making say, 90 million/quarterly now instead of 100 million like they were screwing the consumer by not offering then a job to produce their shitty goods.

More jobs here, equals more money for the consumer equals more goods bought.

What you fucks fail to recognize is that now, with corps. taking jobs overseas is they make more money, the sweatshop worker makes a little money, and the American makes no money in the form of no job. Well, the lost lower middle class loses ultimately.

The upper class, and upper middle class changes none, because they all work non-labor jobs anyway.

This is real life retard not an rpg where certain races have +10 better quality build on things because reasons.

You dumb dilusional fuck Mexico is not buying corn from the United States anymore wich makes farmers lose millions also they are gonna tax every import from the U.S.A to Mexico not to mention that they did a crazy law that if youre a U.S citizen you gotta pay some visa tax to go to Mexico, trust me if there is one country I know how to fuck people out of money with politicians it is Mexico, some senators earn even more than the president of the United States
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this^ business doesn't want illegals gone because then they'd have to pay people at least minimum wage. (i do find it kind of funny that the party that's always pushing to raise the minimum wage for legal workers, is also the party that's fine with more illegal workers being here making less than minimum) If it was made mandatory for all businesses to use E-verify and the punishments made severe enough that businesses wouldn't want to risk hiring illegals a big chunk of the problem would go away.

>>Im not smart enough to make money so i want to pick and choose what parts of capitalism suit me and my opinions
Typical egotistical fuck American. Intellectual here people, watch out.

Im personally probably smarter or as smart as you. I was lucky enough to go to college. I'm not talking about the few that can and do.

Im talking about the long gone laborer, dumb shit. It seems to be a current problem in America, because we once had a lower middle class. We once had jobs due to companies manufacturing here on American soil.

Now we don't.

How the fuck can anyone be defending this? Is it good to not have jobs here? What the fuck am I missing? Is it really just this elitist faggot prick attitude?

>I'm smarter than everyone and ewwww laborers aren't smart enough to circumnavigate complex economic troubles of our nation in order to get a job so fuck them.
>we don't need no middle class no more
>protect multi-billion dollar companies at all cost

Is this really the problem? I bet it is too.. Lol wow.

the problem is eventually as the economy becomes even more global the cost of manufacturing anything anywhere is going to end up being the same. manufacturing costs in China have been rising for years which is part of the reason China manipulates it's currency so much in attempts to keep it cheap to make stuff there

No I'm not

Im admitting our economic Model enables the richest companies to earn extreme, almost unrealistic wealth, that will pass down a family until civilization crumbles.

The system allows the rich and only the rich to succeed.

Its only going to get worse with this mentality that you, an average fucking person, is so intellectual that you think protecting these businesses, that will never give two Shits about you, is more important than helping your fellow neighboring Americans.

You are closer to a poor nigger than you will ever be to any one of these corporations. Maybe you should start thinking like it.

Wrong Wrong
He said he couldnt raise the minimun wadge
This is true most are people willing to work fuck Trump and his tiny hands im not gonna be working the fields that shit is hard labor but I have an idea wich I got it from schindlers list.
Fuck Trump the joke went too far.

OP isn't talking about you. He's talking about businesses that actually make a difference in the world. Small business isn't making our middle class dissappear.

Its the ones that can employ thousands of employees at a time. Those companies are hiring Mexicans, Indians, europoors, and any other Asian country you can think of.

Those jobs, that once were available to Americans, are gone now. OP is talking about getting an idea out there to bring them back.

It never has and never will be immigrants taking our jobs. It's companies bringing those jobs to the immigrants. On their own soil.

You're all fucking blind. This is why our middle class is gone. There is no hope with these mentalities.

This seriously makes me sad anons. Why do none of you care about this?

>Im personally probably smarter or as smart as you. I was lucky enough to go to college.

>Has to got to college to learn how to make money

Hahahaahah weww lad you had me going there for a bit.

Ill tell you a short story.

Kids at HS bullshat all day on the books and got high.
B average student me works hard at school
No collage
Work my ass of in real life
Always hungry for more
Pick up skills here and there
Get idea to start business
Stuggle
Struggle more
Think of dear mama
Succeed
Go on image board and read about some faggot who is calling me out saying that im a bad guy for some reason.
No greentext because you dont deserve it.

Then the economy will collapse, and then they will realise the judgemental error of their ways...
The reason they take those jobs is because everyone here is too lazy to do it.
They cross borders because there is easy money everywhere here that almost no american is willing to put effort toward.
I don't understand why people have such a problem with immigration!

Jesus Christ! reading what Sup Forums has to say about economics is like listening to anything Trump has to say. ie..retarded. We are interdependent in a global economy and there is no going back. Trump may talk nationalism but the reality is that the world is completely interdependent.
We can cut off the goods from other country's but that would make cars, TVs and every thing else we buy cost 3 or 4 times more. The USA economy would sink like a ball bearing in very wet mud. Anybody got a fix for that?

>The tax should be high enough to make hiring sweatshop/cheap labor overseas unlucrative.
Do you want to pay twice as much for everything? In other words, do you want to cut your salary in half?

There is literally jobs everywhere.... im hiring right fucking now... ask me how many Americans want to cut stone for 10 an hour? Or do framework for 13, or pour concrete, or fucking clean houses for 8.
Now ask me how many hispanics show up eagered to work today.

Obvious question is obvious

Here's one for you

When a company overcharges, do they lower the price or go out of business unable to sell anything?

Its works both ways, moron.

I know what you're saying though. If we forced the companies to hire Americans, instead of Chinese, we couldn't afford anything. No, think again about our great capitalism and its mysterious self healing/equalizing ways.

Yes, companies would finally be the ones footing the bill for being greedy fucks for Soooo long at the cost of American manufacturing going to non-American.

So what? So they'd bring in 9 trillion as opposed to 10 million. What's it really matter to us ultimately. None of us will see that.

yeah fuck not feeling like working the fields, working to make cars, that shit is too hard for me.
shit not even niggers want to do those jobs, also construction.
He is gonna fuck up the country so bad because of his yes men, he is used to everyone kissing his ass honestly I can tell he lives in his own fucking universe

Automobiles, clothes, tech, etc. Etc. Etc. Every single factory owned by American billionaires, producing the same goods we buy today, manufactured by labor overseas, etc. Etc.

Pretty much everything. But, yeah, nothing is manufactured EXACTLY the same like it was in the 50s Lol

It could be possible if enough people spoke up about it. Just like anything.

This thread has scared the shit out of me though. 90% of the people defend billionaire corporations like they're their own brainchildren.

Terrifying. Nothing will ever change. No, you're right user. Sadly.

> I have made my own job also and work for myself.
> I am a skilled HVAC tech and I worked for others most of my life.
>my work is off the sweat of my labor.
>In hundred degree days I work in 140 degree attics for hours.
> I am proud of what I do and treat others as I would be treated.
>Life is hard and I would not want it otherwise.

Nah just a few people posting a lot of good points. Moron.

A sad truth though. This thread is overlooked while everyone posts in trap, s/fur, and topical bullshit of the day.

Our middle class is destroyed. I hoped more would care about this topic. Not edgy enough I guess.

Niiiiiice and quiet on this front though. Just how the overlords like it.

What OP suggest has never been done on a scale large enough like American corporations have. Think about it. This is something entirely different. Also at the cost of an entire class of the most powerful nation in history. What the fuck.

Capitalism, capitalism, capitalism,..
For fucks sake. There ARE laws today put in place to keep some kind of check on our capitalism. We need one more.

American business got along just fine while they manufactured on our soil. The middle class, upper class, and lower classes were a lot more happy than they are today. You foot the bill for all of the Americans out of work and not getting enough. All while corporations are laughing their way to the fucking bank.

IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT user?

Also seems to me back in the day when so called companies where here in the good old US of A. most Employees did not have rights or access to any benefits.

Please explain this to me:

What good does a Chinese worker do, making a product for an American company, that an American consumer is going to buy on American soil?

Question 2:

What would happen is all American manufacturing jobs returned to America. What would happen is American corporations were no longer allowed to outsource?

Please answer

Maybe not run slaveshops with bare minimums and zero safety standards faggot.. fuck right off into the sun

I tried. What better way is there to bring jobs back here than a simple tax?

A tax that would fix the loophole corporations already abuse in order to circumnavigate the American minimum wage law

If you manufacture in this country, you should have to pay for minimum wage, should you not? Oh, wait, no the billionaires don't have to cause they can afford to say, fuck your shit America, we're gonna go else where, but still reap the rewards of selling our shit to American consumers, while fucking them in the ass by not offering them that job opportunity anymore.