So Sup Forums, what's the point of working...

So Sup Forums, what's the point of working? Why waste 1/3 of our lives doing something that only benefits a company interested in its own power and doesn't give a shit about you?

I'm not going to quit working in general... We have to make money to survive and do the things we want. But why? I'm just trying to wrap my head around the concept. We work everyday to survive and we keep doing this until we get too old to do it and die. That's wasting a lot of time in our lives. Shouldn't we be able to do whatever the hell we want? Fuck corporate jobs and full time careers that take valuable time away from your family and life...

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Start you're own shit or move to another country that's 3rd world.

because people are scared and won't know what to do with their time. politicians and corporations stop automation and pride themselves on "creating jobs" for no reason other than creating jobs. universal basic income will come some day, in our lives? maybe. depends what country you live in. more progressive countries are already trialling it, but if you live in the a third-world country like america you're shit out of luck. save up some money, quit your job, enjoy your life.

You summed up exactly why I'm an anarcho-syndicalist.

You're a privileged little shit, aren't you?
The very reason you are sitting your little hedonistic minded ass posting on a cancerous image board is because of your parents work, and theirs before you in this system. I'm not saying the capitalist system is great, it fucking sucks in fact and is destructive to our environment, but to progress as a species we set tasks and systems for ourselves to keep us up and running. Living a life of short term happiness and fast gratification is not fulfilling. Which is personally why I think our cultures in advanced societies are growing pretty cancerous, we're at an age where pleasures have never been simpler or faster.

Idk user

Im a neuroscientist and my work might be able to cure yall of your degeneracy, I know im doing gods work regardless of financial gains

Ah, yes. What a privilege! To be born in a world of wealth, and be told that someone else deserves it more than you because of their last name. What a privilege indeed, to be born in a country where autonomy is outlawed.

We need a strong worker's movement to balance the scales a bit. Manufacturing's gone overseas; the best way to make money is playing the financial sector. This doesn't contribute to the society as a whole.

I am of the school of thought that excessive wealth is theft from the workers who funneled it into their hands. I am not opposed to work. I want a better society, and I want to contribute.

People will make arguments like "Well it sure was a lot tougher before, wasn't it!" - Yeah. It was. And then we worked to make it better, and in the meantime, some how most of our nation's money went into a few select pockets.

"Well, you could be born in Africa!" - AKA the "My neighbor shot his dog for no reason, beating mine isn't that bad."-argument

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If you are not capable of sustaining yourself in a system, aka your "natural" workfree system, then you will be fuck dead in days.

Jobs have a purpose, and people do their things with a purpose. And that some cannot enjoy themselves either A, you dont care about the company either as they dont care about you.
or B. you are nowhere where your intended skill could be needed where you would enjoy.

or grow some potatoes for like 3/4 of your life instead and have even more minimal time to enjoy yourself.

You're assuming I'm hedonistic-minded. And privileged. Well, I'm not. I believe in working hard to earn for yourself. And I understand that there's an ancestry tree that has provided for me. But this is more philosophical. There are no rules or laws that I have to follow in life. It's all bullshit that society made up a long time ago. All I'm saying is that working a career for the rest of your life seems a waste like of time if you only have one life to live. And I'm willing to bet that most people when old regret not spending more time with family and friends and wishing they could have done more of what they wanted to do...

The goal is to balance that out. Time and money, can get you far into a better life if controlled correctly.
And obviously, the other issue is being able to grow economically in all ways possible.
Hurts, Yes. But the rewards in long term are more satisfactory.

how the fuck do you even get a good job when nobody will hire you? how the fuck am i supposed to make money when i keep getting rejected? im very willing to work hard and make money but nobody will give me a chnce.. fuckin bullshit dude

I'm with you op, I've always felt this way.

Why do celebs/youtubers etc... get easy wealth and good lives yet the common man has to work twice as hard for much much less. I'd rather not work and spend time with family. Which celebs/youtubers etc... can do whenever - whereas we have a work scheduled to abide to. Yeah I could go out there and try make something out of myself but lets be honest... You're either going to be born into fame or born meant for fame... Very rare occasions I'll look at a celebrity and feel they have worked for their stardom. Most just got lucky - and the majority of people in the world are not that lucky.

And whoever replied saying 'privilaged blah blah blah' man shut the fuck up... I never asked to be on this earth. If I had a choice to not live on earth or live on earth which consisted of working the majority of it... I'd rather not... What do I benefit from it? Nothing. I feel if they put me on this earth I have the right and PRIVILEGE to have my own house from the get go. Why should I earn to have a house which will keep me alive? It's like someones just said "here you go, now work until you have a house and then you will be old but you will have survived"... It's stupid.

They should have given me a house when I was born. I live and grow up in it and get to enjoy nature...

Ugh ain't this the truth. I've applied to over 50 jobs online this year and have only gotten 4 responses, all rejections. I fucking hate online job applications. HATE IT. They all tell you to apply online. Getting tired of tailoring my resume the right way. And this was my New Year's resolution... still hasn't been answered yet.

Why are you worried about celebrities? They're only millionaires. The wealth isn't sitting with them. It's the people who inherit massive corporations or things of that nature.

Glad to see I'm not alone. I agree with everything you just said. Like seriously, it's so stupid. And to all the people trying to explain how the system works... I fucking get it. I understand how it works. Screw the "privilege" shit. I didn't choose to be born into this world either, but at least I have my own consciousness and think for myself. I could even go as far as to ask about the meaning of life. What is it? Why the fuck are we here, and why do I have to be a part of this system? It really is so stupid.

Fucking this, literally. What's the point in trying anymore?

i feel ya. yea i hate goin to interviews because they just seem so fake and its like i have to act a certain way. fuck that shit. and fuck online job apps too... i heard they use computers to weed out the apps instead of actual people, what the actual fuck?

Them too, anyone that earns more than they need

you're both retarded and must only be 12 years old, without civilization you would be hunting, gathering, chopping wood, cleaning livestock stalls, butchering and skinning animals, building shelter, oh and that's gonna be a lot more work every single day than your 8 hours a day with weekends off to dick around on your computer, holy shit this generation is spoiled as fuck, 8 hours a day with every evening and weekend to fuck around is an amazing trade, you ungrateful idiots don't even know what you have, plenty of time for family, get off the computer.

Do you even know why were you rejected?

that is always a good start, also just a 'job' doesnt do enough, both knowing or investigating the company, place, studio, enterprise, etc

You dont just "work" for someone, you incorporate to their work life and it is a pretty big deal always

yea everyone tells me to keep trying and to try harder... I AM AND IT ISNT WORKING. and how am i supposed to get the specific experience when i don't have any? all jobs these days require some kind of experience, i have past job experience you idiots and they are on my fucking resume!

I'd rather do that tbh more family time cunt.

Also we aint ungrateful - how can we be when we never asked for this...If we had the choice and chose yes then yeah we'd be ungrateful but they've put us on here to be a cog in the machine of life

Bitch dont reply to me again unless you have a worthy argument because I'm not spending time replying to delinquents like you. You better make the reply good enough cos I feel so strongly against this that I'll always win the argument GUARANTEED. It's all I think about - I have a answer to all you lined up replies. so take your best one bitch and see me shoot you down.

op said he understands how the system works user. i think we get this. i think he just wants to know why it has to be this way if we are only on this planet for a very short time. and i feel the same way. its called deep thinking. so shut up with your condescending "spoiled as fuck" bullshit

No, they don't even tell me even why they rejected me. I've been told I could have been "overqualified" for the jobs I've applied to, or since I'm a student they think I'm eventually going to quit it or move on.

>Work one more month and save every penny
>Join me and 2 friends on buying school bus
>rip seats out and replace them with couches and cots
>Spray paint it psychodelic colors
>Blast hippie music while traveling into oblivion

This could be your life if you join me and my blood brothers on this journey called life

I work for myself at a cooperatively owned vegan cafe :^)

I'm kinda drunk, so bear with me if I'm not entirely clear at some parts.
Being rich takes two kinds of work: smart work and hard work. Let's assume contributing to society is good, since it helps to benefit you as well as others. (So no anarchy counterarguments.)
The goal is to get passive income, like renting out a house, owning a business that a manager runs in your stead, etc.But if you don't inherit any of those, then you have to start out by contributing to your society in such a way that benefits you as well. I.E. being a company's bitch in exchange for some money. We've most all been there. I'm there right now.
This produces social altruism. I can't get ahead in life without working at Starbucks and making your coffee any way you want it. Once I've done that for a good few years and saved up money (instead of being wasteful with it), then I can put that money towards doing more for the community and making more money in the process. This is how you start a business: hard work to get there, smart work to start and maintain a business.
From there, you spend sleepless nights managing a business and cry every night when things go wrong, always going into the office the next day with a smile on your face. (You learn to do that from working a minimum-wage job.) You make your business work, and hire a manager once you've started making money.
Continue until you're making money from multiple different outlets, then retire and live the good life full-time. This is the old American dream, and if we would be more patient and accepting of the fact that we have to be employed on corporate's terms (for a good part of our lives, anyway) then America would still be great in the first place.
P.S. I'm young' I'm about to turn 21. Work in fast food, it builds character.

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Before agriculture, our ancestors actually spent less time doing anything resembling work. But it was worth the stability.

same here. no response after almost 2 months. give me at least a rejection and tell me why i wasn't selected!

buy Dash coin now for 28 USD, wait till they are 5k to 10k a piece, sell ;) good luck OP

>Also we aint ungrateful - how can we be when we never asked for this...If we had the choice and chose yes then yeah we'd be ungrateful but they've put us on here to be a cog in the machine of life

Well, kill yourself then.

I share the same views as you but for entirely different reasons, by the way. You don't have a logically sound argument at all other than "I never asked for this". That's not a problem inherent in the system, that's you having a shitty life philosophy. Do you even have any work ethic?

You're just a fucking idiot who wants handouts, and this is coming from a socialist.

That's why I try to do as little as possible at work.
I've been there 15 years and after watching certain ethnic people do absolutely nothing I figured I was good to slack off for the next decade.

I still do quality work, I just don't kill myself to get it done.

The funny thing is. Nobody noticed.

That brings me to my second problem. Idiots in management.

The company I work for keeps hiring these idiots for management positions and then when they realize how stupid they are the transfer them to other areas.

>Let's assume contributing to society is good, since it helps to benefit you as well as others. (So no anarchy counterarguments.)

...? Anarchism is believing that the state needs to be abolished, for whatever reason. Are you implying all anarchists have no interest in helping benefit society?

>certain ethnic people do absolutely nothing

you mean poor people? don't think it has much to do with race

I would but there are people I have been born into I'd selfishly hurt. Which I didn't ask for.

That's not just my argument believe me, I just have trouble getting my point across but I'd still have answers for your questions.

Life is shitty, and no I care not to work.

No hand outs, just enough to live - which I was on earth to do.

I am doing whatever the hell I want and it is working out quite well.

Also if you think you go to work for others, then you have never learned to work for yourself.
You hold a very weak and dependant attitude towards human life.

Do I agree with the system and what it does to people?
Fuck no. Burn it down rather today than tomorrow.
But you can't do that, it's not yours and out of reach for your considerable weak power in life.

Still there are ways to get by without having to sit around with the mindset you are entertaining right now.

You dream big time. Not a bad thing if it itself also has a limit according to your own capabilities.
That is the fault with that kind of people.
They dream too big, bigger than they are.
They never get active because of themselfes, but because they think/feel they have to because of other people.
Are you dead inside?
You should ask yourself tbh.

Not necessarily, but some anarchists take an "every man, woman and child for him/herself" approach. Besides that, I can't think of a school of thought that supports building the individual at the expense of society/the state. But I'm drunk, so I might have overlooked some. Apologies for any offense.

I'm not a fucking commie. I'm just an introvert and question everything in life.

Don't assume he wants handouts. What does it matter if you have work ethic or not? Companies really aren't going to know that from your application and resume. Getting and holding a job is what does matter. You could have a good job because you "got it from someone you know" rather than being the guy who didn't get the job but has more experience and would overall be better for the job. It really is unfair sometimes.

If nobody does anything how will anything get done?

The most unfair game in this world is called Life.

Differently from all other games, you don't start it at the same level as others.

machines - seems to be going that way. Also theres always cooperate shills that do work

not to mention those sucessful ones will have to do it rather than sit on their ass in the board room

America is communism you stupid fucking goyim kys

back in the day, technology advancing brought us to how we are today. but today, technology advancing is leading towards less human intervention... which i believe is bad. actually very bad. if nobody did anything right now, it wouldn't be nearly as bad as people not doing anything 100 years ago. things will get done by machines, just like that other user said

because nothing in life is free. someone has to put time in their life towards making, shipping, creating all the things that you enjoy. someone made the servers that host this site, someone maintains those servers, someone put your computer together, someone made all the parts that make up your computer, and even made the parts of parts. someone drew that frame of pikachu, someone edited it into a whole episode, someone broadcasted it, and all of those took resources and/or man hours. if everyone quit their job and no one did any work the world would instantly go to shit

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Another question arises.
if you dont want to deal with jobs/work and just give zero fucks about it. What are you gonna do?

live at the expense of others? live at barely minimum living condition depending your country/region? or worse?

That's the stupid anarcho-capitalism crap. Look into Noam Chomsky and his theories on anarchy and syndicalism. I'm an anarchist at heart, socialist in practice.

>What does it matter if you have work ethic or not?

It matters because you don't just get paid to exist. You used to have to build a house, farm the land, and contribute to your community if possible.


>Companies really aren't going to know that from your application and resume. Getting and holding a job is what does matter.

Are you implying most jobs don't require work ethic..? Because without work ethic, you don't fucking hold a job.

>You could have a good job because you "got it from someone you know" rather than being the guy who didn't get the job but has more experience and would overall be better for the job. It really is unfair sometimes.

yeah, I agree with that at least.

fuck off with your book bullshit you fuckin cunt i am happier when im not at work

Because the system is set up to operate this way. They key is to realize your goals and use the system to reach them. Think of work and money as one of the many tools in this near limitless life.

I'm scared of that too. If people laze about all day because society doesn't *need* them, then a good number of them will basically have an existential crisis. (At least, that's how it's gone with me so far.) People need a purpose to life, they need something to fight against, a goal to go towards. That's why a lot of millennials subscribe to SJW bullshit; there's no problem in life for them except for their feelings.
I'm really scared of what will happen when/if most of society's bitch work can be done by machinery and robots. I've got no clue what people will find faith in and what their "ultimate enemy" to fight against will be, but it's scary.

Oh, are you beginning to realize that you're a slave?

I hope you're young. Also I hope you're this guy:

>I would but there are people I have been born into I'd selfishly hurt. Which I didn't ask for.

Well, you don't want to contribute to society as a whole. You want to sponge off it. You're happier when you're not working? You're broken. You're supposed to want to do something fulfilling. Besides, they selfishly created you. You're living a selfish life thus far anyways, why not just fuckin' let it all go?

>Life is shitty, and no I care not to work. No hand outs, just enough to live - which I was on earth to do.

..You have to work for that. You have to work for shelter, food, water, etc. Do you think bears just pull food and shelter out of their ass?

It's very simple OP, anything you have or want is produced by others who work, so when you do work to add to the production of a company, you are adding to the system you use to enjoy a comfortable like. When we all do this society works, so work.

sorry for shitting up the thread, my phone went wonky on me

> third world country like America

you have absolutely no idea how lucky you are to live in America you ignorant fuck

before capitalism and modern society, people spend a lot of time hunting, making shittiy houses with shitty resources, making his own clothes with animal skins, etc. and the life quality in general really sucks
what is better? work, earn money and go back in your home and enjoy the free time, or go back to the primal age?

>you're supposed to want to do something fulfilling

Um, no, I'm not. I'm supposed to? Who says I'm "supposed" to do something fulfilling? My parents? Nature? You? God?

No shit, I know this but why?

Why have they put me on earth to work for things to keep me alive and pretty much nothing else.

Given the choice before I was born I'd have rather of not been born.

These things should be a God given right. Then if people choose to do something with their life then so be it, but if people choose not to they should be able to get away with not having to work but still live and not be condemned for it.

Believe me I aint looking for handouts in a sense of how handouts are given now. I feel everyone should get a basic handout - even those that work. They choose to earn more - fair enough. Those that don't wont. Im wanting to be the one that doesnt so I can spend time with family.

WHY the fuck you are NOT happy at work? what set of goals do you have that work, is like a disease for you?

maybe the work isnt the problem, maybe your retarded decisions.

its going to be a each other. people are so quick to hate now days, and its partly because of this

The way I see it, society will always have room for improvement. Right now we're focusing on basics like giving people food and shelter. Given the progression of technology, we should eventually be able to focus on fulfillment. Until we're there though, it will seem like a far away and abstract concept. However, In the midst of such a world, we can begin to explore our natures better, and so frame a society that better meets our needs. Considering how varied we all are in such needs, I think society will still require a lot of work if it's going to improve.

you wanna feel shitty? The Garbage collector is more important than many of us pricks in this board.
A System that takes the garbage and shit away from us, controlled by the government, OH ALSO THE DRAIN system helping to keep water sent to us and and drain to be kept away.

if you dont like the system nor can incorporate to it, you are just failing at it.

>implying there's not options other than capitalism

capitalism works great for building nations, but not maintaining them. the capitalists get more of the money, which is ok with the workers until the workers stagnate while the capitalists keep growing. then the workers get pissed, and next thing you know we've voted for trump and don't know what we're actually mad at

I give it ~8 years before the word socialism comes up in american politics without a pejorative context

work turns me into more of a solitary hideaway than i already am. After work i have no energy for anything i turn down most opportunities with friends because im too busy catching up with sleep the sleep or solitary time i missed out on at work

>decisions
Is it a decision to grow up in a low income family and in a bad public school system? Is it a decision to have autism, and so never make the connections you need to move up in the world? How about to simply never encounter someone who cares?

We have a lot of choices in a lot of the world, but that doesn't make everything a choice. In other words, you can't always blame people for the condition of their lives. To do so is ignorance.

If I could go work I'd be down for anything work, Fucked up my life within the course of a year not doing it and almost an herod you pretty much have to do it

If the choice is not available for one individual, is it fault of the system? or just your mere luck based on choices of people before you (aka family).

obviously there are exceptions of people pushing out of low income and poverty but is gambling your luck is only option, why not take it?

I think we'd be better served to approach the issue from a different angle. Instead of looking for a person or a system to blame, or trying to rely on pure chance (the same thing that eliminates choices for many)...
Why not strive to improve the system in a way that minimizes these issues?

Damn, this thread blew up.

Guys, again, I understand how this works. We have to work in order to make money and survive. I totally get this. I guess what I'm asking is, "Why?" Why do we have to do make money to survive? Why does it have to be this way? We really devote a lot of our time towards doing something we "have to do" to survive, instead of doing what we "want to do." This can all go back to questioning our existence, which is the true question I am always thinking about. I am grateful to my parents for creating me and God for creating all of us (if he exists) for being able to have my own consciousness and think about this stuff.

Nature. Do you know how reward centres in the brain work?

I agree, but I think every able-bodied citizen should be trying to find work, because taking without giving is degenerate. You don't have to work; you can be homeless, forage for food, and just have a life of subsistence. You want luxuries, though. The roof, the bed, the computer. You don't get those unless you're contributing, or unable to contribute due to circumstance.

>if you dont like the system nor can incorporate to it, you are just failing at it.

I make 50k a year for myself, and like 250-300k a year for my company. Fuck off with that rhetoric. The company doesn't deserve that much of my value just because they happen to have money over my head.

Fuck god

I am exactly like you, it intrigues me... what makes you happy?

I'll compare mine with yours upon reply.

You don't have to do any of this. Abandon society and go live out in the woods. Go back to human nature's roots. We work because this life is better than that, even if we are being exploited by the powerful.

It's illegal, but you won't get caught. Just go fucking do it.

The system might be as stupid as everybody else nearby, making the 'system' better can work if everybody can cooperate, But that is not the case.

we could make and uproar an amazing system, but you lie down at the mercy of people.

Even if we design a good and better system, new people will complain and try to override it.
Somebody will want less, somebody want more, and might not accomodate to everybody.

because if everyone just did what they wanted there'd be no reason to work and nothing would get done

we agreed that the system of capitalism was a good way to incentivize people to work for society in order to get what they want, instead of forcing people to do what we think they should

>taking without giving is degenerate
I'd argue that people, by their very nature, want to contribute to something greater than themselves. The issue arises when, for people like OP, jobs contribute to something one has no interest or respect for. How can allowing such people to give in a way that fulfills them be a bad thing?

well what if we want to contribute but are not given the opportunity to? is it really this fucked up where someone desperately wants to work and earn money but just doesn't get hired or doesn't get this opportunity? is it overpopulation? too many people for the amount of open jobs?

How do I have those luxuries without doing the work :(

>Guys, again, I understand how this works. We have to work in order to make money and survive. I totally get this.
Clearly you don't.
>I guess what I'm asking is, "Why?" Why do we have to do make money to survive?
Stop paying rent and try living off the land by catching squirrels in the park.. Tell me how you fare.
>Why does it have to be this way?
Because we went into agriculture and had some industrial progress over time.. After that shit just escalated.
>We really devote a lot of our time towards doing something we "have to do" to survive,
Yeah. You seem to think that this wasn't always the case, but I have it on good authority that there was a time when people literally spent 99,9% of their time trying to survive. The .1% is really just an anomaly in the math used, otherwise it'd be 100%.
>instead of doing what we "want to do."
There are roughly 6 to 7 billion people in this world, and loads and loads of them have never did 'what they wanted to do' for extended periods of time..
>This can all go back to questioning our existence, which is the true question I am always thinking about.
Ah, you're an American.. Should have said so from the start.
>I am grateful to my parents for creating me and God for creating all of us (if he exists) for being able to have my own consciousness and think about this stuff.

You're literally 13, or have a mind like a 13 year old.. The only heartfelt advice I can give you is leave this place, go outside, smell some flowers and if you can manage, smell some pussy.

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Current Needs
Titles being given
Natural resources.

OverPopulation isnt enough, but the amount of things needed and how many people can provide.

What your describing isn't a problem to me, it's the essence of progress. Yes, things will change over time - they should. That which stagnates perishes. Sure, changes aren't always good, but they're better than giving up.

Definitely. Overpopulation has a lot to do with it.

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You did choose to come here, you just don't remember

>is it really this fucked up where someone desperately wants to work and earn money but just doesn't get hired or doesn't get this opportunity?

You need skills people actually need to be succesful on the labormarket. 'Wanting to work' is not a valuable commodity or skill.

Where did we choose this?

(quoted person)
I agree, change is not bad, just, changes shit left and right and we acomodate, or else.

from agriculture to industrialization isnt much different, sucks both for some, maybe not for others. But will chance if you want it or not. To take it like a dick down one's throat the most pleasant possible way.

If you're old enough to tie your shoes, you're old enough to tie a noose.. Life becomes a choice somewhere around that phase in human life.

Yeah, and that's a problem inherent in the system. A good example is volunteer work; I moderate some discords, twitch chat, do food bank stuff and other shit just because I want to contribute somehow. I'm not getting paid for it, but I am contributing to society.

The question shouldn't be "Why do we work?", it should be "Why is the system broken?"

The problem is that we're more concerned with producing things than we are improving things. There's more money to be made by the powerful when they produce things, so those are the most common jobs. We've got more homes than people in a lot of place, but that's a good thing apparently.

Society is, by definition, a social construct. So just get good at social skills. Forget reading, writing, and 'rithmetic; learn to make people smile, to make them see you're eager to contribute to society.
As Dale Carnegie famously said: "Be hearty in your approbation, and lavish in your praise."
The point is to contribute to several individuals within your society, right? Once you can make people like you, you can ace basically any job interview. The rest, with sincere effort, is easy. Practice makes perfect.

I believe OP is referring to work as in working for someone else, not work in general. Yes, obviously we must do SOME sort of work to survive. Whether it be working for a company or maintaining a farm. We don't HAVE to work for someone or a company to survive. It's just easier

How did humanity survive for thousands of years before working for Wal-Mart or Exxon? They took care of themselves. God (or nature, whatever floats your boat) provides everything. We just have to make it work for us.

>They took care of themselves

so are you collectivist or individualist?

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Resources and Money to help improving things do not come out of nowhere.
Just because one engineer can help develop towards a future doesnt mean Jim on the other side of the office REALLY needs to feed his family.

Chance will never be eliminated. Instead, it might be better to focus on reducing the negative effects of chance. Let's take a specific case as an example:
>I'm born with autism
>People don't like me, but I can contribute in some way
>I'm thus appointed a middle man who takes care of the social aspects of my contributions

I'm still trying to figure out what makes me happy. I think it's my family and the people that are closest to me. My grandpa especially... I don't know what I'd do without him in my life. If I ever have children, they will mean the world to me. But as far as working, making money, buying shit, materialistic things... I could care less about all that stuff. My TV, Xbox, clothes... that stuff is just going to sit there after I die with no true intrinsic value.

I clearly do understand. I think you're just skimming the surface though. I'm trying to dig deeper, way deeper, than what you're stating. I know these "facts" that you're bringing up, but I'm not concerned about them. I 've realized that I don't think you, nor anyone else on this thread, can answer the ultimate question of "Why."

Just wait till robots take over all the manual jobs. Most people will have no form of income and economy will have to reinvent itself.