What is up with women making lists of demands, and giving nothing in return?

What is up with women making lists of demands, and giving nothing in return?

Take this woman. She's a single mom and wants the perfect family. So she demands that her future man provide her and her kids with stability and security. He also needs to be tall, cause she likes to wear heels. All part of the vetting process.

But exactly what does she bring to the table? It's like going to a restaurant. Sure you can order stuff, demand things. But you need to give something in return, money. What do women with these demands offer in return?

All women are whores at heart. Some can just admit it without lying to themselves and others.

Anyone can make any demands they want the market will dictate if someone will give into those demands

she looks like a monkey

that's why you just lie, they're so fucking shallow they'll believe it and thus deserve to be pumped and dumped. Hope she enjoys being on welfare.

You racist alt right anti semite cis white fascist privileged pig.

>No guys under 6' 3"
>That's at least 95% of all men

It's all just a shit test, and this one's an idiot.

She's only 22. Everyone is a moron at that age.

if it was a trap id do it

>that's why you just lie, they're so fucking shallow they'll believe it

this is so amazingly true that it is actually depressing.

Thanks for the kind words, at least I know what I am and what I want.

True! The south will rise again!

Lol no pole in her hole!

Because they're all like this

because some people have very specific visions on what they want their future to be
look back on to when you were younger and the difference between the kids who from elementary, middle, and high school were being prepared by their parents for college and adult hood and the ones whoes parents just sat back and let their childs future play out on its own

what this grills goal is and what the outcome might be is up in the air but life doesn't feel as good when you settle for something less

fukken saved.

my god...this thread is making me hate women

Its a woman. She can ask whatever she wants. Even with that bio she will have LOTS of matches at the end of the day. And from every kind of guys, she can freely choose without having to give any money.
Now try that being a man, guess how many matches will you have.

her parents should seppuku

lol she'll get the pump and dump until she lowers her standards. She's not attractive enough to land a sugar daddy over 6'3".

i bet her kids are mulattos...

Lol she is just a BAD example of a women, some shit tier male will please her.

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Spending a month or so getting to know a new partner is tedious if they end up being a tool. If you're honest with what you want, you can (hopefully) get it sooner. Whether these demands are reasonable is another story

i noticed this in my learly 30s when a couple of divorced women i knew from youth suddenly showed interest in me: a single male in with no children and his own house.

data from dating sites also confirm what that picture says: older women in dating sites get the least amount of messages, because most men message younger women.

THATS WHY WOMEN "SETTLE DOWN".

>because they have to.

This is as average as it gets.

Daft cunt needs to be slapped

My very thoughts - if she was 22 and beautiful there would be a chance (but certainly no guarantee). As things are, though, she's a single mom and looks it - 5 or 6 at best - laughably hopeful.

Im currently meeting a girl from Tinder. Its been 3 weeks already and we met in person 4 times or so already.
But Im realizing she is not my type of girl
>Working every day because she wants to be the best at the company, even sundays she receives a call "Hey we are having this incident, you need to come asap" "Its 4am, wake up and come here"
>She is too tired during the day, doesnt have the time or mood for doing things. At 23pm she suddenly stops talking as she suddenly got asleep.

And she is constantly demanding things about going to expensive places for dinner or talking only about her work. I just cant stand it.

The sad part is I refused other girls for being with this one and now she is the only one left.

I don't really see the problem with this kind of stuff, I mean yeah, the height thing is pretty shallow. But the rest of it is literally so you dont waste your time.

Dude... it's tinder, that shit is made to meet other people. You're acting like you've been with this woman for all the years of your life - It's been 3 weeks...

Move on!

wait...so she's not your kinda girl for working as hard as she can to get more opportunities in the workplace?

feminist or trump supporter?

Thats what I think, if she is like this in these moments where you suppose to give the best of you, I wonder what it would look like after 1 year of relationship.

Neither. I don't see how that's relevant, but I would say the same if it was the other way around.

>because they have to.

Pretty much agree, women only want to "settle down" a.k.a. stop being sluts, when they run out of options.
And if they do find some beta willing to go for it, they'll make his life miserable as payment.

>went with some friends to check out a leather couch some guy had for sale
>guy had most of his stuff in the garage, including a bed..
>the rest of the house was for his wife, who we later fond out was a major slut whit 2 kids from 2 different men.
>according to him, the wife didn't want him to dirty the house when he came from work, so he stayed most of the time in the garage.

What a cuck

I'm more worried about why he has no respect for himself then.

I was never a feminist I for sure pumped and dumped many women but I never faulted or generalized there behavior......but at 28 I am definitely becoming more sexist

some day i wanna be as happy as the nigga on the left.

Be me 23 knock up a random never graduate pay child support do right thing and start dating mom 4 years later. She is very needy never get to stay in my own bed always at her mom's house only get sex once or twice a week. She Earley sucks my dick. We don't like similar movies or music. The first child ruined my experience of children I just don't want anymore. She can't take my dick so I never get doggie style. I never really believed in marriage and I know she wants that down the road. She might sign a prenuptial but even then my pension and other retirement benefits are way to good to risk. Feel like I'm wasting late 20s. Hold me b/. Do you think men can be single and happy in this day and age or will I regret leaving and be a lonley single man?

I have also begun to resent women, I'm 28 as well and this has built up over about 3-4 years, not due to lack of attention. I usually sleep with a new girl every week or two, but it's because they're so bad at being interesting or relevant to my life other than a much more satisfying orgasim than my hand provides.

tip top kek nice baito m8-o

most women LITERALLY have no fucking interests other than going out or being pretty.

you notice it more as you get older.

This bitch is fucking dumb as fuck. The real problem is some fucking neckbeard faggot cuck bitch is desperate enough to raise someone else's kid in order to fuck this dumb bitch. Fuck this dumb used up trash bitch and any cuck faggot that is going to raise her nigger baby.

Im a 32yo single again after passing through a devastating rupture with my ex after being 6yr together.

After some weeks I started meeting girls again on Tinder and several other dating websites, guess what I found. Specially when talking about girls around 27-31yo, its pure garbage, I dont see the light out of this.
And I know if I wait more time I will only find the remains, divorced, girls with sons, crazy ones, landwhales or just nothing.

I dont know what to do anymore

You've been seeing her for 3 weeks and you think there are no other girls left? Don't be dramatic user. Besides, if anything, dating a girl makes you more attractive to other girls. This is a fact.

The problem is I dont call that dating, just talking every single day and meeting 1 day per week just because she doesnt have enough time and at the end just talking about her job or useless stuff.

I really need to go looking for other girls. I spent all my time with this one because she looked nice, studies, hobbies and pretty cute, but at the end it was just an illusion

go for the mid 20's and knock her up

I actually feel bad for you boys, have fun with your bland girls for the rest of your life kek

Oh no, get this shit bro.

>be in a relstionship of 4 years
>engaged
>have a son together
>have a two story house
>two car
>one day ex leaves me and takes my son like a thief in the night
WHATTHEFUCK
>i was on to her because i noticed she was messaging some random dude
>wasn't really ever insecure, but this was was an obvious red flag
>get left for dead, and when i came home from work all of my shit was gone
>tool bag with like 400 dollars of automotive hardware, ps4, wii consoles, crib, dinner plates, AND whoever was with her pissed on my laundry
Ok not cool
>get into legal trouble for aggrivated assault, and i never touched anybody
>charges dropped
>loose the house
>homeless for 6 months
>haven't seen son for 6 months
>get hit up with child support
>then, and only then do i find out where they live
>turns out she went through three other men carting my son around
>she doesn't even work
>lives with random asshole, parasiting off the poor bastard, subsidies off the government (welfare,wic, tenncare,ect)
>my ex literally flung herself into poverty taking my son down that road, because she wasn't happy.

Women can leave when their not happy. The problem with 21st century relationships, is the fact that women can now pick and choose a new dick, reguardless of their partner's well being.
>oh got into an argument, whatever fuck that guy, go on tinder, and just get some other dick

The fucking fuck?

>I dont know what to do anymore
if you're a single man past his prime you do what all other undesirable men do: hire sugarbabies and prostitutes and give up on "love and marriage"

You will be equally fucked single, only get more pussy, since having a child, much like marriage fucks the male end of the deal

>not happy
She is def happy getting money off you from child support and government. I bet she has a vice or two alcohol and cogs or worse that she doesn't work for.

The problem is woman can get anything they want SO easily. If they had to fight at least 50% of what us men do they would stay without doubting.

The moment a woman looks sad or with troubles, she can go ANYWHERE and have hundreds of men in an instant. Even at home. Take a look at /soc/, omegle or any other place around internet. And Im not even talking about pubs, friends, work or so.

But what about men? Post a picture of you or your dick "I am alone please help me!" and what do you receive? Hundreds of girls asking for more? giving their kik and snapchats?

Its SO fucking easy for girls to start a new life and have plenty of chances, they dont fear that. Hell, tv and press also encourages them to do that! Every fucking time! You are not ugly, every woman is pretty, you deserve more, blah blah blah.

And then we can talk about their behaviour,

>"yes hun, everything is fine, why are you asking me that? Im the same girl"

But the next 24hours she disappears from your life and you find out she is been texting other guys who can offer shit like "I can talk with you 24/7, not like that stupid bf of yours"

You guys are so fucking lost it amazes me

She's fat

None of that matters because it's all based on their "value" being sexual. I wouldn't want to be a woman. Sure there are plenty of times where you can take advantage of it but it's still predicated on sex and I would get tired of that. Plus there's a good chance you end up a fat or ugly bitch and they know plenty well the plight of the man.

You could always just swipe left dude. Plenty of sensible bitches our there.

Don't get so worked up over it. It's like getting mad at the asking price of a car when it's clearly unreasonable. Just move on. Plus you can sleep well at night knowing a 22 year old single mom with high expectations isn't getting any mutual matches on there.

Says a right wing b tard that no doubt has a "work ethic."

You're all fucking slaves. That guy is just running with it.

If it ain't a wife it's some billionaire you'll never lay eyes on.

You date younger women dumbass. For the last 7 years, I've only dated girls about 10 years younger. I'm in my mid 30s and date roughly 18-22. If they want to be vapid whores they at least need to be young and look good, nothing more pathetic or undesirable than an aging whore.

Young women are prized. Older men are prized.

In our culture a whore (lets just call it what it is) in her late 20s either has divorce(s) under her belt or kids.... and then no one wants her.

The end result of a decade of whoring is that their looks fade and NO one wants them after they have kids (frequently black or from different fathers) and divorces.

So prior to this, life has been on easy mode for said whore but it gets much much harder when they can no longer trade their pussy as currency to get what they want and flirt their way out of any problems.

Just because your life is shit doesn't mean everyone else can't be happy. I think you need some self reflection.

Not really the same thing. Most people slave away at work so they can afford their free time. This guy is slaving away at work so he can slave away at home as well

It's only a matter of time before you end up like us, user

Says the house slave, at best.

You'll be in your 20s soon enough

I can agree with this, as long as you look in shape and dress sharp, you'll get about the same looks from young girls as you get from ageing sluts.

Thanks to daddy issues and high divorce rate you don't even need that much game for a 18-21 y.o.
Why waste time on an wrinkle bag when you can have a new model for the same price.

Also contrary to poplar believe, younger girls require WAY less maintenance than older sluts, older sluts are used to top restaurants on a weekly basis, expensive presents, resorts, you name it, young goofy girls aren't (yet) that exposed to those.

jesus christ id just rent my own apartment at that point

im in the same boat ruined my relationship w my ex cheating on her now im in my 30s. but i figure ill just focus on me and if i meet some nice pussy ill work on it when it comes

Why am I so pathetic on tinder? I get matches, but no one ever takes to me, no one ever responds to me

Ok. I read your post before looking at the photo, and I was expecting it to be a horribly aged 40-50 year old with a laundry list of demands. Shes only 22, unattractive and fat but thats not the point. This doesn't actually sound that unrealistic because thats a very traditional idea of life. as for the 6'3 thing, she might be very tall. She said nothing about heels. Its very common/traditional to want to be a stay at home mom, raise children and your husband financially support the family. Shes not looking for a 10/10 millionaire.

Fake profile made by bitter permavirgin MGTOW.

the only "Sugar babies" that user could probably afford are escorts using sugar dating sites to find clients

That looks cool as fuck where can I do this

Who knows

/motherfucking thread

>22
>single mom

>thinks she's allowed to have standards

I can tell you exactly what to do.

9 year relationship
She trashed it after going to a high school reunion and hooking up with her divorced ex-flame from high school.

So there I am back on the market after 9 years.
I start doing everything I want to do.
All of the sudden I have pussy knocking at my door

Turns out if you are successful, women are attracted to you.
By successful you don't have to be rich and fit.
Just okay with living how you want to live.
After my breakup I had tons of extra cash.
Brought a new car, convertible
All of the sudden the ex sees my new car on flaccidbook; "user you never came by to give me a ride."
Like really?

Women see a successful man and then want to suckle off his success.

Just do what you want
You will be fine.

This post sounds jaded but Im really starting to see it

Basically this, I'm doing that now while my ex Jew whore screams about shekles.

Uncanny.

supply/demand

Not jaded.

Truth

I didn't believe it myself.

My weekly routine was pretty much this.

>m-f work. I mean work. Like my boss got tons more out of me because I wasn't bogged down with emotional baggage.
>Tuesday Evening, Hookup with FWB I met online.
Thursday Evening, hang with my bud who was a manager at a strip club.
Friday Evening, go out with Hispanic girl I met online.
Saturday, carte blanche. sometimes I had a date other times I just did whatever.
Sunday, rest and watch sports.

Also I was a member of a gym. The ex wanted to join as a couple.
Kept going on Monday, Wednesday and sometimes Friday mornings before work.

Enjoy life.

It seems like the only course of action is to not get married. Date he'll even move in with her but don't sign over half your shit. Kids is always a personal choice but from my experience it's not worth it. We need that male birth control asap.

>leather couch some guy had for sale
>>guy had most of his stuff in the garage, including a bed..
>rest of the house was for his wife
>a major slut
>whit 2 kids from 2 different men.

leather couch for sale ....

Sounds like the entrepreneurs on shark tank who over value themselves.

Her valuation is too high, for that reason i'm out

/r/ChoosingBeggars/

>she wasn't happy.


>married old fag
>countless couples divorced all around us
>stupid women with good provider husbands
>one cunt whore/slut bitch literally started fucking around three months after her wedding
>shit went on for twenty years
>"he doesn't turn me on"
>another good husband "he's not smart enough"
>another good husband "he works too much"
>wife's bff now getting divorced
>holy shit ... i'm next!!!
>time for pre-emtive strike!!!
>get /fit/ter, get dick pills, start taking her on dates, motel rendezvous, get some new clothes, new underwear, brush teeth more often,
>more conversations, vacations ...
>directly ask her, is this relationship working for you?
>recent best valentine's day eva

women ...

Feminist lol