>God tier *Samurai: Pound-for-pound the best fighters in one-on-one situations and the most sophisticated martial arts, the most developed battle tactics, and the most advanced covert warfare in military history. *Conquistadors: Pound-for-pound they did the most with the smallest number of men. They're gods of strategy and planning.
>Top tier *Roman infantry (They're pretty good, but they wouldn't stand a chance to Japanese horse archery and open-field battle tactics.) *Mongol horsemen (They too are pretty good, but they got utterly destroyed by the Japanese Samurai two times in a row and started to decline afterward. That's how badly they got annihilated by the Japanese samurai.)
>Middle tier *Vikings (Agility, precision and skill overcomes brute strength and aggressiveness.) *Knights (Mongol horse archers destroyed them. Imagine what Japanese samurai horse archers would do.) *Redcoats (They're pretty accomplished but their opponents were mainly spear-chucking natives.) *Zulus (They're quite underrated and deserve to be middle tier at the least because they're god tier among the spear chuckers.) *Mamelukes (They're only useful in desert terrain, but they were effective in defending.) *Polish hussars (They're extremely overrated because of rabid Polish nationalists. They're borderline middle tier at the most.)
>Low tier *Janissaries: They caused much more harm than good. *Highlanders: They're garbage and only famous because of Hollywood movies. *Aztecs and other Mesoamericans: They have a horrible battle record against Europeans.
Sup. Defeating the English, Germans and French at the same time.
Isaac Sanders
When was the last time you held hands with a girl?
Nicholas Edwards
>above God tier Caroleans
WE
Brody Robinson
Oh the memes! The memes!
Nathaniel James
>elder god tier american "back to back" marines ww2 era
Cameron Foster
I appreciate your enthusiasm for a subject, but this looks like a very childish approach to historical warriors (ranking them against each-other like a card game)
Michael Butler
Samurai are overrated nobodies who never bothered to battle foreign nations, but just bickered amongst themselves in petty small fights
And when they met with Western military for the first time, they were so scared of a couple ships that changed their entire governmental structure and adopted european legal systems and tried to mimic the west's success, just in hopes that they wouldn't be yet another british/dutch/portuguese economy
They are lower than low tier. But nobody can deny they had cool outfits. That's all they were though. Status symbols (like the two swords) to make themselves superior to the peasants.
Austin Fisher
The Japanese made battle an art form. Samurai were artists on the battlefield, using their flawless katana as a brush, painting beautiful strokes of calligraphy on the bodies of their enemies. Show them some fucking respect.
Colton Reed
>panting bodies as something we should respect should we respect preschoolers then?
Bentley Rodriguez
You should separate, individual warriors and batallions. You can't compare mongol hordes with samurais...
Samurais were shit either way. Have you ever seen actual samurai armor in a museum? The medieval Japs were fucking tiny. It's almost comical. Also, the only reason they beat the Mongols was because of typhoons and the fact that Mongols don't know a single thing about boats and swimming considering that they're a steppe people. The only times the Japanese had any success in warfare were when they had a military tech advantage.
Connor Gutierrez
Why didn't you include the unique civ bonuses?
Ian Morales
>implying the Japanese didn't invade Korea and fight the Koreans and Chinese
They did pretty well against the Koreans when it came to land combat, they just sucked dick at naval warfare
Anthony Taylor
He can since he's an uneducated american. I was actually surprised he didn't include mma fighters in the list.
Asher Howard
>amerishoots try to talk about history or warfare
lol
Zachary Davis
do you roleplay as hiro or takeshi when on Sup Forums, you filthy weeb?
Christopher White
Irish soldiers Siege of Jadotville
Kayden Richardson
Cossacks and Russians in general. We are never good at invading though.
>Polish hussars (They're extremely overrated I've only heard of them on Sup Forums. I thought hussars where only Russian officers from the XIXth century.
>Samurai >Mongol horsemen Failed hard becuase they couldn't get with the times.
Joshua Sanders
They only had success initially because gooks didn't even have a standing army at the time due to centuries of peace. Then the Japs clashed with the Chinese and got their shit pushed in and retreated all the way south and sued for peace. The gooks were better prepared for the second invasion, and Chinese and Korean troops prevented the invading Japanese from expanding beyond the southernmost tip of Korea for the entire war.
Nathan Murphy
Warriorz
Ian Ward
PS: that snake spear took out an Elephant
Leo Stewart
God Tier: Gurkhas French Foreign Legion US Navy Seals
>ok tier: Everything else
>Weebshit-tier: Samurai
Joseph Adams
>God Tier British SAS Wehrmact Delta Force
>Mid Tier US Marines US Army Royal Air Force
>Shit Tier Vikings (nordcucks lol) Imperial Japanese Army (gas the weebs) Samurai (rifles > fancy curved swords)
Elijah Collins
>ITT: Virgins lol
Camden Jackson
> and French But you"re French m8
Cameron Torres
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Nathaniel Gray
Didn't the Portuguese enslave tens of thousands of Japanese people during this time?
Samuel Robinson
>jelly monkeys ITT
Levi Jackson
>Pound-for-pound they did the most with the smallest number of men. They're gods of strategy and planning. such few men, much strategy, masters of warfare xddd
>The wheel of fortune now suddenly turned against Cortes, and the joyous feelings of victory were changed into bitter mourning; for while he was eager in pursuit of the enemy, with every appearance of victory, it so happened that his officers never thought to fill up the large opening which they had crossed. The Mexicans had taken care to lessen the width of the causeway, which in some places was covered with water, and at others with a great depth of mud and mire. When the Mexicans saw that Cortes had passed the fatal opening without filling it up, their object was gained. An immense body of troops, with numbers of canoes, which lay concealed for this purpose in places where the brigantines could not get at them, now suddenly rushed forth from their hiding places, and fell upon this ill-fated division with incredible fierceness, accompanied by the most fearful yells. It was impossible for the men to make any stand against this overwhelming power, and nothing now remained for our men but to close their ranks firmly, and commence a retreat. But the enemy kept rushing on in such crowds, that our men, just as they had retreated as far back as the dangerous opening, gave up all further resistance, and fled precipitately. Now the awful consequences of the neglect to fill up the opening in the causeway began to show themselves. In front of the narrow path, which the canoes had now broken down, the Mexicans wounded Cortes in the leg, took sixty Spaniards prisoners, and killed six horses. - The True History of the Conquest of New Spain by Bernal Diaz del Castillo, Chapter CLII
Dominic Campbell
Didn't conquer afghanistan you fucking mong
Reconquered terroritory that afghans conquered, like punjab.
Also were raped by the brits
Parker Jackson
>*Aztecs and other Mesoamericans: They have a horrible battle record against Europeans. had they had steel arms, cannons and horses they wouldn't have lost single battle against euros
Anthony Bell
>Defeating the English You only fought us during civil wars.
Matthew Morris
Aww too bad.
Elijah Miller
>get raped and holocausted by the ancestors of afghans >get raped and literally holocausted by afghans >get raped and made into a slave fodder soldier caste by brits >being proud of any of this
poo fumes must destroy brain cells
Jaxon Watson
What did you expect? A horse back cavalry vs Cannons.
Elijah Parker
And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Nolan Baker
Didn't Swiss mercenaries BTFO euros so badly that treaties were signed that prohibited their use?
Brandon Morales
t. takeshi
Cooper Bennett
5/10 Not enough reference to the Japanese Samurai and their Katana, the most fearsome weapon ever created.
Jack King
They deserved it. They could have easily killed the Spanish, but they were honorfags obstinated in not killing the enemy but capturing it alive.
Jonathan Miller
We didn't enslave them.We bought them from the damyos.It's not our fault that the japanese are retarded enough to sell their own people
Connor Anderson
Most of those categories shouldn't even be considered given the fact that there are massive gaps in available military technology and circumstance. Besides, are you honestly going to tell me that the Romans couldn't completely rout and destroy a Japanese army in the mid-Yayoi Period? Are you serious? They likely wouldn't strike you as "samurai," but it shows how ridiculous this ranking scheme is.
Joshua White
Korean hwarang is original samurai of japan. Even Japanese judo , Korean Yudo , jiujitsu , katana and kendo was originated by Korean Hwarangdo. Pls look at this history. allmartialarts.com/KIXCO/History/history/map.htm
Haidong Gumdo demonstration It's art of ancient hwarang which was original style of Japanese kenjitsu and kendo. m.youtube.com/watch?v=-0JVZu_-TSQ
This is traditional Teakkyon.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga1Im-3ZtH8 [Open] Tekkyon and hwarangdo is Original ancient style of hapkido kicking and teakwondo and known as a original style of Japanese judo and Korean Yudo and jiujitsu. I didnt know that ancient Teakkyon has throwing skills and take down that a like of judo and Yudo. And since Teakkyon is one of the most old martial arts of japan and Korea, I think judo teacnique is copy from Teakkyon?. It's natural to think by time table and history of east Asia. Everyone knows those true history of east Asia that almost every single Japanese culture is made by Yayoi. And Yayoi is Korean. Everyone knows it except netuyo jap monkey.
Do not believe jap fantasy. Face this reality that japs are Jomon monkey who has no culture but a abo life, And Yayoi Korean educated japs as a slave of Korea and it's became jap culture like judo and kendo and katana.
Even your own jap king is saying, Korean blood was the king of jap. Pls face this reality and do not believe jap fantasy.
Aaron Williams
The list is referring to the warriors in their absolute prime. The tier list still stands. Not a single worthy argument against it in this thread.
Kayden Morales
>such few men, much strategy, masters of warfare xddd
There's no need to be upset.
Jaxson Wood
Wow, you put a lot of effort into this post. Have a (you)
Jonathan Gutierrez
can spaniards even read >had they had steel arms, cannons and horses they wouldn't have lost single battle against euros
Zachary Lewis
>had they had steel arms, cannons and horses they wouldn't have lost single battle against euros
If you had that we would have never engaged you with only 500 men against 200k men, dummy, we would have send the same Tercios that were wrecking the French or the Ottomans back in Europe instead of a small party of fortune-seekers turned into Conquistadors.
Asher Phillips
Calm down, Montezuma. You should consider it an honor to be defeated by Spanish conquistadors, the gods of strategy and planning.
Camden Lopez
>You should consider it an honor to be defeated by Spanish conquistadors, the gods of strategy and planning. Thing is that they defeated them. Even when they had no single advantage other than numbers, if at all (Otumba was the first time they faced cavalry, which, as pic related shows, can be absolutely devastating). The sword alone was an abysmal advantage, it can kill just by thrusting and not only stop any blow from a macuahuitl but break the weapon.
>instead of a small party of fortune-seekers turned into Conquistadors Among which were veterans of those wars against the Ottomans and the French, along many other experienced men from Italy and the Mediterrenean. Those same men admitted that they wouldn't have survived had the Aztecs not been trying to capture them.
Thomas Perez
>Stormakstiden tier Caroleans Hakkapeliitta
Luke Anderson
>had they had steel arms, cannons and horses they wouldn't have lost single battle against euros The spanish tercios were literally the best fighting force in the world at the time. Mesoamericans/ aztecs who were utterly fucked by a few hundred conquistadors wouldn't have stood a chance against an actual army
Sebastian Peterson
>Mesoamericans/ aztecs who were utterly fucked by a few hundred conquistadors wouldn't have stood a chance against an actual army >No steel arms >No cannons >No Horses Do really I have to repeat that in every post? No European would have won a combat against them without using steel armors, cannons and horses.
Michael Stewart
Tlaxcalans are sadly underrated 2bh
Jeremiah Cruz
What is it with Mexicans and excuses? You guys are almost as bad as Brazilians.
You guys had plenty of advantages.
1) Home court advantage.
2) Endless resources.
3) Jungle guerilla warfare.
4) Numbers.
Juan Phillips
What is it miwth Americans and htier education? I thought you were at least second world tier.
>1) Home court advantage. They literally had Texcocan allies, who were literally located next to Tenochtitlan and holded 2/5 of the power of the Aztec Empire, .
2) Endless resources. Which dissapeared as soon the water sources of Tenochtiltan were destroyed since when their cities were built no one expected people would show up with cannons.
3) Jungle guerilla warfare. Please be bait. The Aztecs were not in Yucatan, pic related.
4) Numbers. The Aztecs and the Spanish literally fought two times. Once in Otumba, when they faced the Spanish and their cavalry for the first time nad then in Tenochtitlan. In Tenochtitlan, the numbers were quite even, until a second smallpox outbreak appeared. Call it excuses if you please, but their numbers don't make up for all the advantages the Spanish had.
Josiah Rivera
>The Aztecs were not in Yucatan, pic related.
Henry Martin
>In Tenochtitlan, the numbers were quite even
Levi Ross
You need to give credit to the charisma and persuasive abilities of the conquistadors. Gaining those allies is an impressive feat. Fighting is not the only thing that commanders must do, they must inspire and lead. Shame that the Aztecs didn't have that kind of leadership. Cry some more.
Jaxon Nguyen
The Tlaxcaltecs and Texcocans offered an alliance to the Spanish only after they saw how superior was their technology. As Otumba proved it, they did the right choice. Nevertheless, I still recognize the Spanish resourcefulness. After all, Cortes not only won outnumbered 3 to 1 against the Spanish army sent to arrest him, but he also did it with almost no casualties and convinced the defeated to join him.
Leo Price
>no mention of US Marines or Spartans into the trash it goes..
Jack Ramirez
Cortes is a God of War, nigga.
Alexander Martin
A defeated god of war nevertheless.
Joseph James
>defeat
More like a temporary setback.
Xavier Reyes
not quite if you read the footer
Christian Lee
The Mother of God tier
A stick
Connor Davis
>conquistadors >would have been killed almost immediately if they weren't white (muh gods) and didn't have guns kek.
Nathaniel Evans
>samurai depends on the period but overall fairly average desu >conquistadors no >roman infantry are good but would do bad against japanese in open field combat you're retarded >mongols would die to japanese and they did die to japanese the mongol conquest was thwarted by shit mongol boats and bad weather but okay ken-sama >mongols fought knights golden horde did a couple of things in eastern europe but western european knights as we know them didn't fight mongols. Also I like the additional bit of weebism thrown in
0/10 made me reply
Asher Bennett
That's the shittiest list I've ever seen. Samurai were shit and so were the Spaniards. The only god tiers if we're not including modern special forces, are the Romans and Mongols.
