When are you leftists/liberals going to wake up & realize that:

When are you leftists/liberals going to wake up & realize that:

>It's NOT about "brown" people
>It's NOT about Arabs/Middleasterners
>IT'S ABOUT RADICAL ISLAM
>RADICAL ISLAM IS YOUR ENEMY TOO

We hate the "WHITE" people that have converted to it & joined them to "declare war" on us JUST AS MUCH as the "brown" people, because it's NOT about what COLOR they are; It's about not having ANY ideology crammed down our throats on pain of death.

Seriously; even MODERATE Islam is FAR stricter on Women's rights, Abortion, & Gay/Transgender rights than Christianity/Catholocism is; but you'll fight against & antagonize only the latter, but ignore those issues in the former. Why??

I'm personally a Centrist BTW; Trump's a con artist only won because he learned pro wrestling crowd manipulation psychology through his WWE ties & applied it to politics.

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No.

Seriously; he played the "heelish antihero" throughout his entire campaign.

What an astute & well thought out response.

It's about kicking the niggers and sandniggers out of europe and the us and islam will go with them

Yeah; cause the niggers have so much to do with it.

People are free to practice any religion they want in the U.S. This is a core value. It is not progressionist agenda. It is the very reason why pilgrims migrated to this land in the first place. If you can't wrap around that, get out of our country.

The argument you're trying to have is one about individualism vs. collectivism. You're *trying* (but failing miserably) to explain that there muslims who are collectivists, and they want to change the predominant religion in whichever environment they live in, to match their own. Because they're collectivist, not individualist. And because they're collectivist, they do not respect religious freedom.

Now, if you argue along these lines, you will win. Because that's what it's actually about. Collectivism vs. Individualism. It's what it's always been about. It's the big question everyone on Earth gets to ask themselves, and find an answer to. It's actually the entire point of human civilization, if you want to get spiritual about it.

But, the U.S. is the home base, basically, for individualism on Earth. And if you can get the brown, white, or whatever color people you think are a threat to individualism, or religious freedom to admit that they do not respect religious freedom, then you win the argument. It doesn't matter if the person you are arguing with is on the political "left." It doesn't matter if the person you are arguing with is on the political "right." Because those political directions are mythical. The only thing that changes is their vocabulary. They are exactly the same.

There is really only one political issue on Earth, this evolutionary cycle, and it's the question of collectivism, or individualism. It's also a question that each person has to answer for themselves.

Because you see, that's the great compromise. You get to choose. But you *must* choose, and that's thrust upon you by societal expectations.

That's the reason we exist.

If you want to win your argument, argue along these lines

Somalia, Mali etc... Lots of african countries are muslim. They have to do with it. And the niggers that cause trouble should be sent to africa.

the scary thing is that the few reasonable libs i know think like that too. i had a conversation with one about trump travel ban when it was ''repealed'' only to have iran state organize a death to america march. she told me it was all propaganda to fuel war. I didnt reply back. Liberals cant seem to understand the dangers of radical/moderate islam. retarded libs think is all racism while reasonable libs think its all fear mongering. To them its either just fuck our shit up we deserve it or somehow letting muslims take over will resolve everything

>All of this political stuff
Whow dude, knowledge bomb. I don't mind you posting here but. Isn't stuff like that belong at Sup Forums?

This is an intelligent argument that speaks well to centrists. Centrists aren't who my argument was aimed at; it was aimed at the kind of people who just show up in every thread this winds up getting discussed in to argue from one extreme end. An excellent post with excellent points you've made, though.

Criminal citizens go to prison; we're not fucking Britain & we don't deport them.

If you haven't noticed; this board has been being used a shitton lately to antagonize & widen the divide between the left & right. Attempting to escalate the tensions & violence between the two. We really need more attempts going the other way.

Fair point.

This is all well and good, though there really isn't space for individualism when you're subscribed to holy doctrine. The danger lies far into the future, when the majority of the population is subscribed to a loopy ideology why not just inject it into the political arena because who's gonna argue? The Individual?

I never knew this was Sup Forums

It is fundamentalist you faggot
youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

>migrated to this land in the first place.
ppl fled there because europe was getting raioded by islamic slavers.
>ppl migrated because they had a better chance of survival in the states.
>the states later fought the barbarian wars for this very reason
Fuck me you americans are ignorant

Yup.

So the next big political battle will be between people who think collectivists and individualists can hang out together, and get along. And then the collectivists and individualists who feel a need to kill the other.

But first, every person has to decide which team they want to be on. *THEN* comes the decision on whether or not it's possible for the two different modes of society to exist on the same planet.

And actually what will happen if it's decided "no, there can only be one!" is a mass immigration off planet. But, that's like way down the road.

I tell ya' though, the sooner everyone decides which mode of society they prefer, the sooner we can see the kind of fantastic technologies that will make the idea of sending half the planet into space not seem like such an impossibly difficult task after all.

People fled there, because the Catholic church was murdering "infidels" indiscriminately, with all the thuggish behavior that gets pinned on Islamic fundamentalists.

Because it's always the same. You have this god, or that god, or this than and the other prophet. But always the sides are collectivism, versus individualism.

Cathocolism is collectivist. Putin decided that, because he, as an individual represents the will of the entire Russian people.

youtube.com/watch?v=3JVR0zAiyw0

He's wise on this already.

The spanish catholic church was under islamic control for a long time.

The jews started ww2 , it was the jews that pushed for the bombing of the japs.

The salt thing is a myth, the reason europe was in the dark ages with thugs was because the muslims invaded the south and destroyed trade and all the religion they met.

American Jews?

Switch Islam for Trump and you get republicans

They moved there after they got kicked out of russia and germany

>Discussing something political instead of 50 "you mad white boy", trap and fb fap threads a day.
>"wtf this isnt pol ffs!"

>It's NOT about "brown" people
>It's NOT about Arabs/Middleasterners
>IT'S ABOUT RADICAL ISLAM
>RADICAL ISLAM IS YOUR ENEMY TOO
Jews are too..

Radical?

God, yes; there's so many videos online, with slo mo effects that could have dubstep accompaniments, of Trump executing people.
He's a fucking moron, but he's not more of a murderer than any other president thus far.
In fact, this early in his first term; he's got far less blood on his hands than Barack "my drones strikes have a 90% wrong target kill rate" Obama.

christianity is jewish, jews are evil little goblins, islam is cancer, there is no good choice

Maybe we can finally all agree that God is the enemy.
Time to take him out...

HEAVEN NEEDS REGIME CHANGE

K, start with the jews..

Everybody just needs to CALM THE FUCK DOWN about Trump.
Is he a conman? Yeah, he is. Is he the president now?
Yeah, he is. And will be for at least the next 4 years. So far nothing terrible outside of the "norm" is happening; the courts are shooting down his outrageous shit, the system appears to be working as it should to keep the already limited powers of the president in check.
Will deportations escalate? Most likely; but only of people who came here illegally.
You don't like the law? Have it changed. Until it is there's nothing outrageous about enforcing it; it's not like the laws on it are brand new.
Those of you on the left side have to be good sports & accept it's not your turn at the plate anymore. If you can't you've NO ROOM to bitch & moan about how the right acted for Obama or may act when the next Leftist gets in.

The jews aren't God.

Everybody knows that ISLAM is The Cult of Theater devil

True Story

go back to watching the last 2 episodes of eva fucking faggot

Mohammed fucked a 9 y Old when he was 55 Y Old.

Non human like mohammed The childfucker.

And that's only because her vagina was too small. I'm sure he would have fucked her after they got married when she was 6.

>MODERATE Islam is FAR stricter on Women's rights, Abortion, & Gay/Transgender rights than Christianity/Catholocism is
because we've been beating them back for a couple hundred years.
>but you'll fight against & antagonize only the latter, but ignore those issues in the former. Why??
Christians are more numerous, more powerful and closer to me. The only reason to care about Islam right now is racism and I'm not a huge racist.

Islam is not a race though.

Iehova fucked a 12 year old virgin when he was already several billion years old, impregnated her; then abandoned her & the child...

This. \ /

>because we've been beating them back for a couple hundred years
...You did? You should be ashamed.
Still though; it's an excuse for them to be sexist, misogynistic, intolerant, bigoted, & transphobic? Pretty big pass you're giving them there.

>Christians are more numerous, more powerful and closer to me.
Not for long...

Honestly; have you SEEN, like, ANY of these execution videos?
I'm not JUST talking about the ISIS ones; there's numerous ones all over the place.
There's one making the rounds now, shows up in all the recent rekt threads, of a young boy being beheaded with a dull knife.
No matter how much more numerous the christians are; it's not a sect of THEIRS doing that shit.
I don't give a fuck what race or color the fuckers who do that kind of shit are; or how far away they currently are.
I don't want anyone who subscribes to the same doctrine that births that kind of shit to continue to breathe, let alone anywhere near me.
However far away it can never be far enough.

>The argument you're trying to have is one about individualism vs. collectivism

there can never be individualism while there's a state user, you're dumb beyond shit if you don't comprehend that

Perhaps the lefties and liberals subconsciously realize that IT IS about brown people and about Arabs and Middleasterners and NOT about so-called "radical Islam"?

I mean, what do I have to fear from "radicals" if I don't let brown people into my white country? Not much!

On the other hand, if I let brown people in, some of them will radicalize no matter what.

So the problem is indeed cultural and racial, not religious.

>MODERATE Islam
joke of the day

>That's the reason we exist
I dunno, that seems to be jumping to conclusions. I mean.... how can you assume that there is any final purpose, all we can really look at is the inputs and outputs on a physical level and make assumptions regarding purpose.

If you think about what humans physically do for earth, you could come up with a million reasons we exist. Our soul purpose, for example, could be to eat, shit, and reproduce in order to eat, shit, and reproduce. A.K.A. aiding the filtration and distribution of earths heavy metals.

Our combined shits are ground down and dispersed by nature via entropy and the weather cycle, and after hundreds of thousands of years of shitting and dispersing, the heavier elements work their way through earth’s crust and mantle towards the inner core, where they can reach a temperature hot enough to fuse into iron and nickel.

As all the shit drains into the planet over billions and billions of years and the core grows, the sun reaches its critical supernova stages and engulfs the earth absorbing the combined energy of every shit ever shat on earth ever. Once the sun is overloaded with shit it will collapse into a white dwarf and roam the galaxy, trying to find a bigger shit-cluster than itself to merge with until it absorbs enough energy and density to explode with the power of a thousand Miss India butter chickens, sending turd-comets and turd-asteroids flying in all directions at the highest of velocities, spreading shit-sprinkled stardust throughout the universe, which feeds young solar systems and materialises new ones.

We are Starshit.

This stopped being a "white" country a long while back.
We can't fucking go on dividing & segregating ourselves forever. I've lived around & with people of all fucking races & colors; there are differences of opinion, culture, & every other manner; and I've seen the fucking piece of shit worthless ones from all of them.
No race really has any more assholes than the others; humans are inherently shitty douchebags at base. But the ones who AREN'T have all the basic cores of humanity in common. We don't all have to live in the same exact fucking house singing kumbaya; but the sweeping generalizations based solely on race instead of action really help nobody, & just make you look like an ass.

I think these edgy anons actually have a point:
This fucking bullshit none of us are even close to being sure of just causes far more problems than it's worth.

Carl Sagan's voice was in my head while reading this.

America still works as a European nation: constitutionalism, republican democracy, rule of law, capitalism, the scientific method, ancient greek logic & thinking & disputing, bible- and enlightenment-based human and citizens' rights, free speech etc. etc.

The more brown people with different ideas, traditions, and attitudes you have, the more you will lose this. Same with us here in Germany and the muslims. They, for the most part, like being in a white nation because it works, not because it is white in race or occidental in culture.

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Your statement reminded me of this; not trying to say it's any more than vaguely related.

youtu.be/3Yl20r4dbgs

I'm not advocating anything like the bullshit the EU or Sweden is currently killing themselves with. If you go to a nation because it works; you have to adapt to & respect what made it the state it's in, which made it appealing to you in the first; but at the same time the citizenry there has to realize & be willing to accept a certain amount of cultural intermingling. Otherwise just close the damn borders & be done with it.

I really, really, like this image.
Thanks, Lori.

You do you, bro.

There is such a thing as hyper multiculturalism tho, not even being racist. i think that's the main problem. Some laws tend to offend certain cultures specifically, just as some specific cultural beliefs offend western law.

p.s.

This might work very will in an alternative 1965. But it doesn't work today anymore. The European nations and the US didn't enforce assimilation, which, of course, is only possible as long as there are few culturally similar foreigners coming in or even fewer non-similar. Instead, we had "integration", multiculturalism, melting-pot-ism, salad-bowl-ism, thirld-worldism etc.
So, we burdenend ourselves with a lot of problems we cannot solve with the same method we could have used to avoid them. Instead, we have to use more drastical means, like deportation, pro-white/pro-European cultural policy etc.

The solution might very well have to be the cells simply dividing. Probably the only "final" solution for the L v R gulf here in the US.

But it'd be a step backward if it were solely based on racial lines; far better if it's similarities of culture & ideology. Even better if we could not, like, chuck missiles at one another afterwards, but that's likely asking too much.

Baby steps.

Yeah. The thing that bugs me is that the left vs right ideology is spreading like wildfire around the world too. I'm in Australia, and it feels more relevant every day. probably because i'm at uni and there are always propagandists from the socialist alternative trying to recruit people at the front gate every few days. I say let them divide... but at the same time enforce laws equally among the demographics so they can get to that understanding that regardless of their opinions, democracy is the dictator. In AUS, some aboriginal communities are given preferential treatment by law enforcement because they don't want to offend local elder judgement.

Idk man radical Christians commit more murders than the Muslims or anyone else in America and they are always the ones protesting gays, abortion, and anything that isn't held to Christian beliefs. I think we have a radical Christian problem. We should probably start banning them too.

Can a frenchbro help me translate something unrelated? I don't know if I'm being trolled or not and i can't copy and paste into google.

I was shitposting in Dalaran trade and then a french person started talking to me and It's bugging me to not know what she said

>But it'd be a step backward if it were solely based on racial lines; far better if it's similarities of culture & ideology.
I agree on that one.
(Though in most cases the split will in fact be quasi-racial, because the the one half of the split would be mostly white with a few minorities sprinkled in.)

Frenchfag here. This guy is just being nice BUT he sound like an asshole. What did you do with him, a trade or smthing ?

Back to Sup Forums with your nigger ass

Well fucking DUH, seriously why did this even need to be a post, are their genuinely people out there thinking radical islam / radical religion is a good thing ?

I went to kill some rare mob to gather some herbs from him, and this little female Dwarf (the Frenchbro) just sent some question marks and invited me to a party, and kept speaking in French very fast. I got onto google translate and tried typing it as quick as I could but they just kept writing, even when I translated that I couldn't understand them.

Normally I wouldn't care but it's the fact that I didn't know if they were being nice or not. I'm a gigantic asshole on wow and I was ranting positive things about La Penn earlier, but I think they were cool.

I love language barriers, you see. It makes communicating twice as fun.

>are their genuinely people out there thinking radical religion is a good thing ?
Me! :D

If only everyone could get the basic education that partisanship is not effective.

Going to have to be a much more stark, final divide to be effective here; otherwise we'll have endless butthurt & screeching from one side or the other every time the ruling party switches over, until the end of humanity or death of Sol; which ever comes first. It'd have to be essentially a peaceful (kek) secession.

>radical Christians commit more murders than the Muslims or anyone else in America

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Seriously; I fucking can't stand xtians any more than muslims & think we'd universally be better off if every nation started treating all realigions equally like Japan does post that gas attack - as a sign of mental illness & a potential radical cult; watching them closely & protecting kids from their influence; but your statement is just trollish bullshit tbh.

Quasi-racial isn't apartheid SA; so it's fine.

Hope you're posting this in all the shill threads meant to inflame & escalate people's anger & butthurt; & artificially escalate the violence level that's brewing.

Yeah; there are.

Islam is no different than Judaism and Christianity before it. We must now begin to water down the Muslims like we did with the other two.

Fuck; forgot (You)

It's not about education, but about conflicting self-interests. To live means to fight. Either you have democratic partisanship, or you have some other form of political, social, or economic struggle.

Where ? i have seriously never heard anybody say that, I've never seen anybody say that except hyperbolic right wingers whinging about the left and SJW'S supposedly saying it.

Yes, Yes we should we should try and counter act every radicalized individual regardless of gender, race or creed.

>Quasi-racial isn't apartheid SA; so it's fine.
Apartheid was necessary in former* South Africa because the minority ruled and it had to keep the majority in line.
I hope this will not happen in Europe or North America!
A secessionist pro-American / Eurocentric nation in America will not have that problem. It will have to deal with, like, 10 to 30 percent minority folks, most of them also being American by birth. so, no big problem there! I would advice for a Whites-only immigration policy, though.

* I say "former" because what you have now and are getting more and more is not really South Africa any more, in the same way Zimbabwe is not Rhodesia.

you're scared shitless of 6 dudes on the other side of the world. drug cartels execute people all the time and I've met cartel workers. they were catholics and make their money thanks to drug prohibition instituted by evangelical christians.

Yeah this is pretty fair. But considering there are instances of conflicting self interests, shouldn't people need to know that their ideas don't always win?

the "threat of radical islam" is nonexistent. it was invented by conservatives to fearmonger the gullible into voting republican.

and it worked to a frightening degree, unfortunately.

With Christianity it happens at home where it was practised. With Islam, you would have to try to reshape muslim religion in your country while muslims from outside try to counteract you on that.
Might be difficult!

>the scientific method, ancient greek logic
Then why do you have so many niggers leeching of your ppl holding back and reverting progress where every the settle down.?

Look in like, almost every single thread discussing this on here; including this one.

Those that don't outright say it apologist it to death or put it off as "not anywhere near me, the christians are, only need to worry about islam cause racism"

The opposite of religion is factual information. We need to go on the offensive not with bombs but books. If we can secularize the Arab world, they will leave Islam in droves.

They should. And they do, as far as I can tell. When it comes to more right-wing populist bourgeois parties in Europe and the US, I think their voters just stopped to accept the narrative that it is the natural course of history that their ideas have to lose.

I am against Islam as much as i am against any religion, including atheism.. I am equally supportive towards LGB society.. but when it comes to transgender.. we are just getting silly here folks.. if you want to chop your dick off you may as well be a paedophile.. no logic involved in self mutilation whatsoever.. hmmm, i wanna be a cat.. imma superglue fur to my ass.. Dang i still aint a cat..

Cowardice! People don't want to be called a Nazi or a racist.

Also: Unscientific make-belief in the form of denial of HBD.

Maybe.

So... Tell me more about how a non-existent thing works really well.

white people live longer due to racial privilege.

>If you haven't noticed; this board has been being used a shitton lately to antagonize & widen the divide between the left & right. Attempting to escalate the tensions & violence between the two. We really need more attempts going the other way.


This. Please.

the threat of radical islam is nonexistent.

the fearmongering about it is very real.

l2comprehension you fucking 10 year old.

the squareroot of negative one

I didn't came here to discuss faggot. Get your shit back to Sup Forums

>6 dudes
It's a FUCK of a lot more than 6 dudes my nigga.

>drug cartels execute people all the time and I've met cartel workers. they were catholics and make their money thanks to drug prohibition instituted by evangelical christians

I'm not saying this isn't a problem. But tbh the CIA & pharma companies had a fuck of a lot more to do with the genesis of drug prohibition than the evangelicals (& the privatized prison lobby is now a huge factor in keeping it alive as well); the cartel murders are crimes of profit, not done in the fucking name of spreading catholicism or eliminating its opposition.

>>RADICAL ISLAM IS YOUR ENEMY TOO
Fam, I completely understand that.

But not all Muslims are radicals.

The objective of socialists is to destroy Western culture because they believe that will usher in an age of "true" multiculturalism.

Of course, in reality it follows along power dynamics. Leftist are in favour of Islam because Muslims align themselves with the left wing, either as immigrants who vote leftist, or as world leaders who collaborate with leftists. Multiculturalism is just a sham, and it's easily dismantled by arguing for immigration of groups OTHER than Muslims, or taking in refugees OTHER than Muslims. Suggest importing Russian skinheads, or Chinese business people who all vote right wing, and see how fast leftists scramble back from their "immigration is beneficial" argument. Or ask them to give white South Africans special consideration because they are subject to racist legislation in South Africa, and see how quickly their peace and love narrative changes into one that advocates racial violence.

Leftists don't want lofty ideals. They want to stay on top, even if that means selling out everyone who isn't them, or even everyone who just doesn't hold the same promise of power as the Islamic world does (such as gays or classical liberals, for instance).

i wondered when some one caught on to that, blacks are inbred and have defective genetics.
they take up much more in health care and they have lower life expectancies

>they let these defects spread in to the entire population of america and europe.

Islam is the enemy

...

>But tbh the CIA
so evangelicals and mormons
>pharma companies
only stupid potheads believe that.
>the privatized prison lobby is
racist conservative christians
>the cartel murders are crimes of profit, not done in the fucking name of spreading catholicism or eliminating its opposition.
I don't give a shit because I'm not a white nationalist.

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U r Islam apologist. you make me sick.