What's your favorite kind of metal and why is it Norwegian Black Metal?

What's your favorite kind of metal and why is it Norwegian Black Metal?

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atmospheric black metal

Thrash metal

baby metal

It isn't though. I don't really have a favourite subgenre.

Invented by Varg Vikernes if you ask me.

What's your favorite metal band you're listening to lately?

Truly?

i suppose i'd agree, a lovely crazy bastard

Guess what is in my car's six disc changer? Reign in Blood, Master of Puppets, Paranoid (Not thrash, but godfather to it) And Justice For All, Peace Sells... But Who's Buying, Rust in Peace

Swears up and down he's not insane, but I have my doubts about that lol. Good guy I'd say actually.

Again, don't really have one. I like different bands quite a lot for different reasons. One moment I'll be listening to 80s heavy or thrash, the next it'll be modern deathcore, then goregrind, pornogrind, death metal, black metal and you get the idea. It really doesn't matter; it's all good stuff. But if it's any help, pic related is the CD I bought most recently.

He casually references and jokes about killing Euronymous. I'm not talking about edgy, twenty-something in Trondheim prison Varg; I'm talking forties, wife, kids and Thulean Perspective Varg.
Nigga's cray.

Black Metal, even though 99% of the fans and 75% of the bands are a fucking joke.

Haven't heard of that one, but I'm always the last to find out about bands.

That's sort of metal in general; also sort of every other genre of music in existence.
All genres have their wanky moments and hordes of unbearable fans.

I've been listening to them for about 10-15 years now. I first read about them in some kind of low-rent media/street press mag here in Australia after the cops had raided them for child porn.

Yeah, my knee jerk reaction was that he is a dick for that, because Euronymous WAS a killer Black Metal guitarist, but you know... Varg was like 19 and this 25 year old plots to kill him. I think he really did feel like it might be Euronymous or him. Would you trust a guy who hung out with Dead or took pics of his corpse and made necklaces and worships the devil. Varg's no gambling man I take it.

Yeah it can be a wade through muck to read the comments on Black Metal videos.

Wow, that is quite a story on how you found out about them. I guess only weirdos, pervs, criminals and drug addicts would know about the most obscure shit anyway. That's why I find out a lot of stuff on Sup Forums I guess.

He was there in the early stages, but he wasn't especially gifted or anything. If we're just talking Norwegian stuff from around the same time; Burzum, Darkthrone and Satyricon were all doing a better job imo. They all struck me as people trying to actually create atmosphere and use passion; where Euronymous just struck me as a disgrunted, antisocial teen who wanted to be the alpha dog.

Better to just not do it. Go there, enjoy the music and do not associate with the others.

Oh yeah and needless to say that early Emperor shat all over Mayhem as well.

As far as technical skill went, he wasn't going to wow anyone I guess. Him and Necrobutcher created some really catchy hooks with their riffing though imo. Also, even Fenriz credit Euronymous with inventing the Norwegian Black Metal style strum. So maybe more of an inventor or riff hook crafter than some watch me play this upside down type character.

Yeah pretty much, so many put so much effort into trying to be as edgy as possible. It's almost hilarious, but more just sad than anything.

I also listen to a fair mount of Funeral Doom, but I find there are less bands that I really enjoy than there are with BM

True

Whitechapel ftw.

Motorhead is my new favorite at the moment. Will have to say that Megadeth will be my favorite forever though..

For full disclosure they didn't actually have pizza; the cops just did that because of the nature of their music and because Australia is comically stupid nanny state almost as bad as Britain or Germany.
>I guess only weirdos, pervs, criminals and drug addicts would know about the most obscure shit anyway.
I disagree. Although metalheads on the internet tend to be cunts; nearly all of the metalheads I've met IRL are actually very social, very down to Earth people. In my experience and in contrast to popular opinion: They were also often more open minded than people who weren't. Especially in regard to musical tastes. Probably because they're already accutely aware that everything is subjective and some things aren't for everybody. I mean I'll bet you listen to a lot of stuff that isn't metal, don't you?
>That's why I find out a lot of stuff on Sup Forums I guess.
It's an incredibly popular board, with 24/7 traffic from different people from different walks of life from all over the globe. I'd say that plays a bigger role than anything else.

Motorhead is awesome, Lemmy's was one of my favorite voices. What do you think of pic related? Everyone seems to think it's the worst Megadeth album. I kind of like it, but it is not really Megadeth as we know them in any sense.

wasn;t a huge fan of it. Kinda watered down. 13 Was awesome as fuck though. Pic related.

I see, they busted them because hate for extreme metal. All that kind of thing does is create more interest for the bands.

Rock bread

Only listened to 13 once. I'll have to go back and hear it again.

so good. i liked never dead the best. Amazing if you have a great headset or 10" subs in the back of your trunk.

>I see, they busted them because hate for extreme metal.
I wouldn't go so far as that. Imo it was their explicit lyrics (whic are unintelligible anyway) in tandem with a government and society that has yet to completely join the rest of the developed world. Don't get me wrong: I fucking love Australia for a bunch of other reasons; I really do. But sometimes we're treated so ridiculously that it just really frustrates me.
>All that kind of thing does is create more interest for the bands.
Exactly right with that one. I didn't know they existed until the cops kicked their door in. Not that they're famous or anything now; they aren't. But they did get at least one person interested enough to see what the fuss was about; most likely a lot more.

melodic death metal is best metal

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Burzum

Yeah, I wouldn't even know about Mayhem if Dead hadn't shot his forehead off and then Euronymous took a pic of it. That's how I decided to look into it. The pic of Dead dead.

What do you think of his prison recordings with just synthesizers?

Early Satyricon also shat all over Mayhem

>As far as technical skill went, he wasn't going to wow anyone I guess.
To be fair almost none of them are. Black metal is not exactly renowned for it's technical riffing and solos. It's not even really known for technical drumming; just fast.
Honestly I remember Necrobutcher's bass work from Deathcrush more than I remember Euronymous' guitars. Which is saying a bit since I normally have a pretty fucking big bias in favour of guitarists.
>So maybe more of an inventor or riff hook crafter than some watch me play this upside down type character.
Yeah true. That much I cannot argue with. Plus a lot of the... ugh... "truer" black metal musos seem to hate that more people pleasing side of metal. Although even then I think that's mostly an act to ironically get more fans and exposure.

Doom anyone?

I'm confident I would have found black metal sooner or later. I've been listening to different styles of metal since I was about 13-14 and I'm 30 now; so I figure it would have just crossed my path sooner or later. However, seeing a thing on TV talking about Varg killing Euronymous was my first introduction into the people behind it; which then got me looking into the music of the bands themselves.
>Dead hadn't shot his forehead off and then Euronymous took a pic of it
Do you believe that? Because I don't. Everytime I look at Dawn of the Black Hearts the picture looks like maybe it was an accurate, drawn recreation of a photo maybe. But the colours, the shapes, it all looks wrong to me. I thought it was fake.

Necro's bass on Deathcrush and Mysteriis is maybe the main reason it is my favorite. I know Varg did the bass recording for Mysteriis, but I think Necro wrote it. Bass line on "Life Eternal" sticks in my brain as I go about my day.

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Yeah I know; I said that already. Well, I said they were better; but yeah, they did kind of shit all over them. I'd take Dark Medieval Times over Deathcrush anyday.

Progressive metal is the realest kind. All others "genres" consist of one type of song.

It wasn't until now I knew I was better than you all.

The colors do look super saturated, but if it's a drawing or recreation it is extremely good workmanship, which would be odd for a bootleg.

Varg killing Euro was one of the first things I learned about Mayhem. I went straight to the Burzum website and read Varg's version of the story. I just sat there until I read the whole thing, totally engrossed in the insane story.

Can't decide between technical death metam/core or melodic death

Don't know man, I can't listen to it. Only prog rock I could ever listen to for any extended period was Rush 2112 and I never thought it was really that great. Guess it just comes down to taste. Prog to me = a bunch of math rhythms, with no hooks, good drumming, and singers that always sound weird and dorky as fuck.

Mysteriis... That fucking mess. Even though it's regarded as a landmark blackmetal release; I just don't like it. I think Attila's vocals just ruin everything; which is a damn shame. Because if you listen to the work he did with Tormentor when he was still in Hungary, he clearly has a goog black metal voice; they just didn't seem to use it for some reason. Not to mention all the shit you mentioned about the bass tracks on there and then the crap involving Euronymous' mum and Hellhammer or whichever member it was.

>It wasn't until now I knew I was better than you all.
I knew it was only a matter of time before you showed up. Now that you have I'm immediately bored.

That's weird, I love Attila's work on Mysteriis. He brings a variety in tone and sound that a lot of them don't. I guess you can talk to a million metal heads and get a different perspective from every single one. It's all subjective anyway.

why not both?
See
>Allegaeon
>Persefone

>which would be odd for a bootleg.
Possibly; but you can pick any genre of music out there and it will have some surprisingly dedicated fans that will do all kinds of strange things and sink any amount of time they need or want to. A Slayer fan once tried to get Kerry King to carve his autograph into the fan's body with a scalpel. An intricate drawing of a dead hero isn't much of a stretch compared to something like that.

>Progressive metal
>"Trust me: In ten minutes, this song is going to be so awesome!"

Patience, young grasshoppa.

Well, fuck... Let's analyze it. It's an interesting pic to look at anyway.

To be fair, I don't hate all of it. I just hate that it's nearly all that, "I'm not quite growling; not quite sneezing," style of vocals he did. Some parts of it I did like, like the slower part toward the latter half of Freezing Moon. I thought that complimented it really well, but using it all throughout just made it kind of lukewarm for me.
These black metal musos, especially the edgy, early days, second wave Norfags are always trying to convey aggressive hatred and despair through their music and to me that just fell short. Although it probably should also be stated that I'm not a black metal fanatic. I listen to other genres more.

>I just sat there until I read the whole thing, totally engrossed in the insane story.
It's funny to read the perspective from Varg, Fenriz and a few other key figureheads from the scene at the time, watch the interviews, etc. Then watch tabloid-esque reports and features made on it years later and how different their information is from all of the people who were actually there at the time. Was a bit of an eye opener for me about what the media will do when it's a subject I already knew about.

I know bud. I don't really have anything against prog; I just like having a lend of dickheads who think their shit doesn't stink.

The clothes he's wearing are a big red flag for me. They look like somebody drew or painted them.

There's nothing that really tells me for sure it's a fake, but I'd probably have to see the original photograph to really tell since digitized copied and re-copied images can lose their fidelity. The jacket looks strangely clean on the right of the photo, but the other part of the jacket under his right arm looks appropriately stained and dirty.

Yeah, even the other black metal guys have differing stories. It reminds me of this old black and white Japanese movie about a murder where each character tells a different version of what happened. They even summon the spirit of the victim and the spirit tells a different story. So you could summon Euronymous and he would probably tell you some way different shit than Varg. We'll have to contact a medium because that would be interesting.

Okay then how about this: Look at any other shotgun suicide. There's usually a bit more going on than just a little bit of blood and brain dribbling from the FRONT of their head.

Dead is the best Mayhem singer, let's just leave it at that. What other singer would sniff dead animals in a bag before a show and bury his clothes for a while to let them rot a bit before a show. He was like a method actor, except a singer.

Hmm, might depend on the gauge.

All I can think when I look at this is, why didn't they put the shower curtain inside the bathtub so the blood that hit it would stay in the tub instead of draining out onto the floor?

>We'll have to contact a medium because that would be interesting.
Yeah I can see it now:
>"Yes, yes. I'm getting closer to Oystein. I think I've found him! Yes, yes! He says that he-... He doesn't want to speak to me and wants a more cult medium and he hates doing interviews."

Probably wasn't in the clearest state of mind when he did it. Bit like asking somebody who's just had a fight why they weren't doing jumping spin kicks.

You like Funeral Mist?

Consuela the maid is going to be fucking pissed though.

Don't know, but I will look it up. I'll make a list of bands I haven't listened to that you guys posted. So thanks for that. Sup Forums gives me new music constantly for my boring life. Not that boring isn't good. Exciting lives are too fucked up.

kvlt medium lol

Also, he's too busy picking clean the bones of the corpses in the underworld.

I thought they get specialist cleaners in for that shit anyway. They would have seen just as bad and far worse many many times.
I could be wrong; but in most of the interviews and other shit I read with him in them he just seemed like a childish knobhead.
Nah brah he's helping Abbath and Demonaz get out of the forest. It's a few episodes in, but they're not long:
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Yeah, I mean... At the risk of sounding uninformed, the only Doom band I know is Ghost and yeah they are good. Are you on the square? Are you on the level?

He was childish, I mean he barely or not really lived out of childhood. I appreciated his effort to create a sinister, dark persona to go with the music though. Horror is pretty cheesy after all. Of course his childishness lead him to embrace that persona too much as some kind of reality.

Doom - yes; drone/funeral doom - not so much.

>At the risk of sounding uninformed, the only Doom band I know is Ghost and yeah they are good
They're good and they're catchy. Not really doom though from what I can tell. Not that it matters.

Ambient black metal is some good shit, even though it all reminds me of snow n shit and I live in a fucking hot country

Here comes the son... He's alright.

>He was childish, I mean he barely or not really lived out of childhood
Yeah that's true. At 25 most people are still a bit childish; but I still think he was worse than most.
>Of course his childishness lead him to embrace that persona too much as some kind of reality.
Happens to a lot of them. Glen Benton was notorious for being too serious about it all. I'm sure I saw an interview with Scott Ian where he said he and the boys were guilty of taking thrash really seriously when they were young, then just enjoyed the music as they got older.

I've only heard a couple of their songs and I'm not overly familiar with the band. So I'm not really sure what you're getting at right now.

Yeah, it reminds me of snow and I live in a pretty hot area. Makes me miss the Northern lands.

Where are you guys from and does your country have some good bm bands?

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Here you go buddy, some snowmetal

Yeah, I think a lot of the young metal guys and punk guys especially think it is way more than just the music, like they have to be really extreme and edgy in real life and it's just young men trying hard to be men and be seen as men. It gets them killed sometimes. The way some guys talk on black metal video comments, you'd think you had to win the UFC championship before being real enough or tough enough to play metal. I'm like it's just music. Put a tough guy on there that can't play and what do you have? What's the point?

Tie between Tech/prog death metal and Black Metal. Immortal's newer stuff and Abbath's album doesn't really appeal to me. I don't like the higher production thrashy elements.

Straya. Deströyer 666 are (were?) good, black/thrash. If you haven't listened already you could give them a go.
Phoenix Rising is a great album, as is Cold Steel

It's a cover of that Here Comes the Sun song by the Beatles that Ghost covers. It's an awesome cover and they seemed to twist it to mean here comes the son of Satan.

USA central CA, hot as shit. I am not even familiar with our Black Metal bands.

Love the bad production early Black Metal. I'd probably rather listen to Dawn of the Black Hearts than a lot of high production technical sounding stuff. Atmosphere is important to me. The "landscapes" of sound.

>Straya. Deströyer 666 are (were?) good, black/thrash. If you haven't listened already you could give them a go.
I'm the Strayan from here: so I've heard them before, I just keep forgetting about them. I think of Aussie blackmetal and I think of low-fi, sort of shittier acts like Striborg and Abyssic Hate; then someone has to remind me that these guys are/were a thing. Apparently they're still going:
metal-archives.com/bands/Deströyer_666/223
I wouldn't either. My knowledge of US metal bands is mostly limited to death and thrash with the odd bit of heavy thrown in. But you seem to have a fucking shitload of those along your southern states right the way from Florida to California.

That could just as easily be:
>MGTOW: Exercises in Futility

We have some good stoner metal. There's a kind of funny, but good stoner metal band from the East Coast called Weed Eater.

We have all kinds of good metal. Admittedly a lot of it is very generic (same as every other country), but we do have some pretty damn respectable acts in all kinds of styles. I remember seeing Psycroptic open for Cannibal Corpse at the Gaelic years ago and they did a slightly better job than Cannibal did; and Cannibal were the band I'd actually gone to see.
Same thing happened when I saw Slayer at the Hordern back around 06/08 in there somewhere. Slayer rocked the shit, nobody upstaged them; but the Aussie support - Mortal Sin did a fucking bang up job. You always hear these stories about opening acts for Slayer getting booed, Mortal Sin didn't. Probably because whoever booked the show at least picked a thrash metal band to open... Mastodon did get quite a lot of Slayer chants and other banter when they were on inbetween, though.

Anyway.
Boys I'm gonna have a shower and then make a run to the shops for dinner. Please keep the thread going if you can. If you can't, it's been great chatting to you guys and I'll see you the next time a decent metal thread is on.

Norwegian black metal is GOAT
>mayhem
>Emperor
>burzum
>carpathian forest
>ulver
>immortal
>bathory

Darkthrone is pretty good too, and they are still putting out some decent stuff. The reason I really like Scandinavian metal is because you can't hear the edgy lyrics. However, the only black metal release I really enjoyed since the 90's was SKÁPHE2.

The other types of metal I enjoy are folk metal from Finland, and doom/stoner/sludge metal. Moonsorrow continues to put out great album after great album.

Not that guy but I love daulði baldrs. It's repetitive but I just love the melodies varg puts together. Hermodr A Helford is really peaceful to me for some reason.