Hello Sup Forums

Hello Sup Forums,

I am in love with this girl (pic related, looks something like Monroe) and she is with me. Problem is: She has a boyfriend for 8 years she does not want to leave.

She is also my best friend and we both know that we are in love with each other. I am a 100% sure she does not play games with me on that part before you ask. Since I am a betafag when it comes to feelings we did not have sex or even kissed, even though we slept in the same bed, because I really do want to have a relationship with her, not only sex.

Her current relationship is not a happy one since two or three years, she gives everything and he nothing. But she thinks she can fix their relationship and feels guilty about some things he has done for her.

What should I do?

You are more beta than you realize

Move on.

She doesn't know her own feelings, and is using you as an emotional tampon.

Women have been trying to "fix" (castrate) men since the stone age, and when you play the role of orbiter and emotional tampon, you help them.

It seems like she does know her feelings towards me. We know almost everything of each other and I really am sure she does feel that way for me.

On top of that almost everyone in her surroundings (including her father and sister) want me to be with her, because they like me much better than her boyfriend.

Real advice will be to get any idea of a relationship with her out of your head. If she wanted to be with you or liked you that way you two would be together.

Stop talking to her for 2 months, no responding to her texts, no "I need some space" no explanations or apologies. She will eventually message you on every kind of social media you are both on, this is bait don't respond. She will say she misses you and this is most likely a lie. In that two months go out and work out more learn to draw or paint and make some other friends. Think hard about whether she is actually a good friend or not like if you didn't want a relationship would she still be a good person to you do this after two weeks but not before. After you decide whether you want to talk to her again you will sense the dynamic will have shifted and go from there if she tries making you a protoboyfriend again rinse and repeat

This so much.
user watch RSD videos or anything on social interaction might help because I was you once, a retard and after it went completely opposite of what I expected I fell into a 6 month depression, grew a lot as a person and now I know that girl doesn't matter but in the end it's one less girl that I may have chances with now

We were best friends before any idea of "falling in love" came up, so that is clear to me.
She told me many times that I would be the best boyfriend for almost any girl and I rather think the problem here is that she actually thinks "she is not good enough for me".

She wants to spend as much time with me as possible and we wasted lots of hours and saw each other every day for two weeks now. I can not cut all contact with her with hurting both of us so much.

On the other hand again she may realize what she is missing if we do not see each other for a longer period of time...

you have to say to her that you have something very important to say to her. Met her and talk abaout your feelings, how do you see her, want you want, and let her to express. If she tells that she also have that feeling on you then let the passion do the rest, kiss her


resume: fuck her right on the pussy

Sounds like the typical dumb slut, that dates assholes and friendzones a dozen orbiters, that are too in love to notice or care.

You are being cucked without even once getting your dick wet. You are never going to be with her and she will destroy every chance for you to ever find the right girl for you.

She's not in love with you

>What should I do?

STFU and leave Sup Forums forever.

We had that talk and on other occasions she told me something along the lines of "if we weren't as self reflecting and controlled we would end in bed almost every time we meet".

My thoughts there are: If she is not a 100% sure she wants to do something we can not have a happy relationship afterwards because of her guilt of cheating.

If she wanted to fuck you, she would. She doesn't. You're a surrogate little brother.

Since when do women take their family's advice on who to be with?

You're too young or naive to recognize it, but this is all typical of the beta orbiter phenomenon.

Notice she says "any girl would be lucky to have you", not "I love you and want your cock". Desire isn't earned, it's a base biological reaction. She might complain about her bf to you, but it's his cum that she swallows.

Get away now. Cut all contact without notice.

I usually am not that stubborn about such things, but: She has no orbiters (apart from me) and she is in love with me.
She already has destroyed every chance to meet someone else and see them the way I see her right now.

Um is she a pornstar because in th bottom right it says porn

do you have photo of her?
have you ever fapped thinking of her?

Russian girls get influenced by their family's advice. She is.

She told me that she wants to fuck me. I really think her moral is a deciding factor there, not her hornyness for me.

Yes and yes

post a photo, bikini or something

nope

After carefully considering your situation I have determined the following.
You sound like a pathetic little faggot. You are probably not attractive. This girl either thinks you are secretly gay, or that you are so far beneath her in terms of attractiveness, that it would be insane for her to entertain the idea of dating you.

Again, you sound like a pathetic loser and you have zero chance of getting this, or any girl.

You should strongly consider killing yourself.

I am indeed attractive and no virgin fag or something. She actually lost her breath for some seconds when I told her and I really believe her when she says, that she thinks of me many levels above her. That is bullshit, but she thinks like that.

I considered that on various points and I will probably not do that, sorry.

That you c. Gray?

If you're not the beta orbiter, you're the plan B. Either way, it means she has an emotional sop, and you get nothing. You're being used, and sacrificing your own happiness and sexual satisfaction for a woman who gives you nothing.

If you're strong and cagy, you could keep her on the backburner as a "friend" you might be able to bang later while having a relationship of your own, instead of pining away for a woman you can't have.

You seem neither strong or cagy, so save yourself the pain of trying and go bang tinder sluts til you forget about your "love" (which is actually just the desperate lust of a man with no better options--I can tell you that from experience).

Women have their own moral code, very different from men's. So yes, she may not switch to you because of "moral reasons", just not the ones you think.

That guy? Nope. Not my name.

I hope her girl friends talk her into leaving her boyfriend. It really is an emotionally draining relationship they have and he does not appreciate her in any way. She also told me he was not in love with her when they got together.

If they split up I will have a chance, I am sure.

This. user is 100% right. Get away and get some ass. Your are backup plan B, maybe even C. Fuck that shit. Been there done that.

Only advice I can add to his is when you do meet someone else, she will start making advances on you. She can't lose her backup, right? If that happens, kindly remind her of her "moral code" and gtfo.

At least post a face pic of her or something, i was in your exact situation for a while but i wont give advice for free

Take your fake story, and shove it up your ass.

No one is in love at first. Quit pretending that she is truly into you sexually. If i am getting a woman to sleep in the same bed as me as you are, one of two things will happen:

Sex. She is into you and it shows. Enough said.

No sex. One time might be a fluke, missed opportunity, or stressful influence outside of bedroom. More than once, you are a safe zone. A friend and nothing more. No sexual attraction. No chance.

Women always date up to dumb fuck it is called hypergamy if she really thinks you are better than her she would be all over your dick wet as fuck right now

I never said it wouldn't hurt but it will either force her to confront her feelings and lose you or you will realize she isn't worth the trouble and move on. If it doesn't lead anywhere it will only be that time life got in the way of your friendship for a short time and within a year she won't remember it happened. It happens to friends with busy lives all the time, it doesn't happen with romantic partners and that is the point it will make her question what you mean to her and what position you should hold in her life. Alternatively you will see what position you hold and can decide if that is where you want to be

girls dont love they just want financial security and for you to pay for them to do things, and sex with hot guys which 99% of the time there is always a hotter guy than you. the only girls that even come close to defying that fact are moms who have been brainwashed and taught the right thing to do is to want kids and a family who get into a relationship with a guy that is financially reliable but we all know those relationships get stale and end up in constant arguing cheating divorce ect because the woman lies to herself about her true sexual desires and the desire for her to just fuck a hot dominate guy and have everything payed for

Looks like op threw his computer when no one told him to hold out until she gets bitterly divorced in 20 years lol

Nah. You're a pathetic faggot. It's really obvious.

You're a complete rube.

The fact that he's sort of an asshole is what keeps her coming back for more. Take a lesson from that guy and ditch this emotional vampire.

Not really, no. But since there were no new arguments...

OP you are a fucking loser and she is not into you if she was you'd be together move the fuck on and find someone else you fucking beta

She gives me a lot with our friendship. I was depressed for a long time (am still in therapy) and she always helped me although she said it was really hard some times. But she thought I was worth her time and effort.

It is not even a week since we confessed our feelings to each other, so how fast should we be together already?

because youre FRIENDS thats what FRIENDS do shes just your FRIEND can we make it any more fucking obvious to you

Ok bud. Here's a simple question--is your "friendship" with her holding you back from accomplishing goals or forming satisfying emotional relationships?

Are you unfulfilled with the women you date because they are not her?

I would not say your friend is a bad person--she's a just a woman, doing what most attractive women can't help doing.

If her relationship was truly bad off like you said, a day tops. She would have slept on it. Thought about it. If you were her better choice you would be with her. Sorry dickhead. She is just using you as a backup