Found a book online about a 12 year old girl who seduces a 40 year old man...

Found a book online about a 12 year old girl who seduces a 40 year old man. Does /b think pedophila in literature is tolerable?
Lolita is not the book in question

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This book is a work of art and a must read. End of.

Lolita is not the book I found. But yeah, I guess you answered my question.

Pedophilia should be tolerated everywhere: Books, movies and real life

what is the name book you found?

Wasn't she nine years old in the book? Hollywood had to make her a little older for the movie.

Crystal Grader. Found it on Smashwords

The 12 year old is going to be played by a 25 year old """young looking""" girl

Talking about Jane March in The Lover? Yeah. You got that right.

Lolita is about statutory rape. Anyone who thinks it's a romantic story or believes it's healthy for her has absolutely no ability to read between the lines.

Also they're probably a pedophile.

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What the hell????

Thanks to you, sir. you are a prince among men.

Also, has no one read Lolita? It does not have a good ending. The dude gets rekt, pretty much.....

Anything is only okay when it fits someone's personal narrative.

Sexual deviancy is a lot like fear or hatred. Classical conditioning will make the sickness spread like a parasite, thus it is always at least a little dangerous for that book to exist.

Nice puffy tits.

I've never even seen a copy at the bookstore

>"Aint clickin that shit nigga"

as long as the kid consents, absolutely! and yes, children can give consent to sex.

rape on the other hand is absolutely intolerable

Anyone of you seen the movie Lamb? Highly recommend it.

You probably base your opinion on one of the two movies. Nabokov wrote a dark comedy in which Humbert Humbert was the romantic hero. "You can always count on a murderer for a fancy prose style." Everyone else took advantage of Lolita but he genuinely loved her. He went to prison while society protected everyone else.

You must be new here.

>deriving morality from law instead of the other way around
Kids have sex with each other all the time when they hit puberty, but that's not 'statutory rape'.

Can't confirm. Am a level 21 spellcaster doomed to wizardry.

Will be checking into it

funny enough they can get convicted of producing CP if they film it. yeah, the law is about protecting children..

the sad thing is our laws are still influenced by christian morality

Yeah but even in the book Lolita hates him and ends up miserable in his care. So it's not really played as a romance from her perspective. I personally saw the book as a warning for any and all vices; you may think you are getting what you want but in the end you can't have your cake and eat it too.

The law on filming it is more in place to deter sex trafficking in young people.

fair enough, but it's still ridiculous to sentence the children, it's a very natural behavior.

Lolita is my girlfriend's favourite novel.

This is a picture of my girlfriend.

Yes, I am posting this to make (You) jealous.

>inb4 autistic screeching and fat neckbeard virgins telling me she's not hot

she is hot, and I would like to see more

I see this link all the time on these threads. I know it's some sort of scam link but can someone explain what it does? I'm curious.

I found the pedos.

Children can't give informed consent, retards.

There is a reason we don't allow children to vote, drink alcohol, drive cars or give consent.

While they may be physically able, they are mentally immature and a predatory adult could take advantage of this. Age of consent laws exist to protect children from predators who may not have the child's best interests at heart. If you can't understand this, you're either retarded or ignoring to justify your sick perversions.

Why is it her favourite novel?

Well, I wasn't expecting this. Here you go.

It takes all your cache data and forwards it to the feds so they can view your Internet history, posts you've made, social netweork accounts etc. It also installs malware if you have flash enabled which allows them to view your desktop remotely.

Click it, brah.

why does your girlfriend suck at using towels

no, if you tolerate pedo, you have to tolerate gay, and both are sicknesses of the mind

>Why is it her favourite novel?

I'll ask her next time we're together.

Well, holy shit. Thanks for telling. I'm haven't done anything illegal but I'd rather not force the feds to look at all the Rule 34 I view. I'd feel bad.

but there is a trend to allow children to pick a gender and take hormone blockers... weird, huh?

nice

That's not a towel. It's a scarf. She covers her face in any nudes I take because she knows I've posted her nudes on Sup Forums before.

Crystal Grader delivers the same message in a different fashion. Authors must be scared to write books like these so stick some kind of a moral lesson in

there is a big difference between the points you mention. you might find it yourself if you try hard enough. Of course we need to be careful, but you know, we need to be careful with a lot of things.

Btw, the age of consent has been raised over the time. While this makes sense for multiple points it doesn't make sense for sex, because sex hasn't changed.

I could go deep into a discussion with you, but i'm aware that i'm only wasting my time. so believe what you want

Does she have ageplay fantasies?

i have a book called belinda by anne rice writing as anne rampling. every time i start to read it i back away because i feel like it is stirring things inside me that i dont want stirred. its about an adult with a kid. i think she is 14 or 15 in the novel.

That's because of retarded liberal "progressives." It's child abuse and should not be allowed, just as children can't give consent to sex, they shouldn't be allowed to consent to sex changes or hormonal treatment at such young ages.

>14 or 15
Too old

>nothing illegal on site
>using separate browser for stuff like this, so not logged in to any social networks
>who has flash enabled by default if he visits fishy links
>multiple layer of security

nice try mr FBI

>there is a big difference between the points you mention

Which points? Elaborate.

>Does she have ageplay fantasies?
No, but she admits that she's always been attracted to older guys. Hardly surprising. Most women are.

>deriving morality from law instead of the other way around
Smartest thing I've seen in Sup Forums for a while. I'll use that quote.

How many years older are you compared to her?

read second sentence. one of my arguments. i could go deeper, but it really sucks to have such discussion without coming anything out of it.

i really spend much time of my life thinking about this issue, because - as you might guessed - i'm a pedo. and i know from experience that children an be very much into sex, i was when i was a kid

I think Lolita was greatly written, but the content itself was morbidly interesting. I think it should be allowed in certain contexts, I don't want a book about sex with a young girl, but about the relationship with one is alright, even if it is gross, it's freedom of speech.

Discuss it instead of being completely negative towards discussing it, you fucking faggot.

If you're a pedo, I don't give a fuck, as long as you're not molesting children.

Here, I'll get us started:

>Do you think age of consent laws should exist?
>If not, why not?
>If yes, what age and why?

Almost 6 years older.

OK definitely not clicking that link
As for my two cents, FUCK no. Besides why luster after a growing body when you can have a full one? :/

>book about sex with a precocious female is gross

Are you a faggot or underage?

>this is the world we live in

why does your girlfriend look like a silicon doll

>book about fucking a child*

holy shit you are the fucking worst at debating things arent you, he doesnt want to fucking argue with some retard who doesn't even consider the other's arguments

She used to look even more porcelain when she was younger.

It's high literature, faggot, not a Sup Forums pedo post about molesting kids. Literature isn't gross.

All pedophiles preach is love and understanding.
All moralfags can preach is hate.

I know who's side I am on.

He hasn't made any arguments, you fucking newfaggot cunt.

I think it's disgusting. Besides I like big ass :^)

there's a reason you call the anti-pedos "moralfags."

It's because it's morally wrong to take advantage of children for your sexual pleasure, you stupid fuck.

>people actually think like this

Well if that thread about Indian guys taking a shit on the street can last three hours there's no reason this one can't.

Don't post demo here you weeb fag

If you read what I originally wrote, you'd see that I agree that any type of literature is cool to write. Anything can be gross, irrelevant of moral issues. Fifty Shades was horribly written and gross, but wait, that's a book.

Pedos can think whatever, they're people. People can be bad, they can be good, it just depends on the person, same goes for literature. But I don't think we need a book like 50 shades but with children.

(forgive my any mistakes, i'm not writing in my native tongue)

- Yes and no
- It should not depend on the age but on the child. If i child stat to experience sexual urges he/she can be considered ready. This happens around 5-7 years.

I know this sounds strange and i know it's not really working with our current setup of society, but things might change again someday.

i don't mind if the parents of the child are having a close watch to the whole situation.

Thing is, not all children will develop sexual urges that early or they might be very waek, but some will. Statistics tell us that about 1 in 100 men is at least a little bit sexually attracted towards children. I'm pretty sure this is also the number of children that develop strong early urges.

It thinks it's very important to not suppress this. there almost never comes something good from suppression.

Also, if a child wants to release the urges with other children, fine, i'm not going to force anything. But there will be enough children that would want to deal with adults.

I'm also assuming that child rape would go down very fast, because i believe a lot of pedos are actually nice people but they are forced to life such a life that they will end up seeing children solely as sex objects. Not that this is an excuse for child rape.

It's a tough topic, but i know hat we have a very negative bias towards children and sex. I assume a very impotent aspect of this bias is because we still (or again) think that sex is "dirty" and we consider children to be "clean", so we don't allow it. Not only because we want to protect children, but also because we want to protect our view of the world

oh, and btw, my keyboard is garbage, that's why there are some characters missing *sight"

It may be morally wrong but hating for the sake of hating with no means for those who are pedo to get help without putting themselves at considerable risk from 'moralfaggotry' sucks. Moralfags could help pedos get help and less kids would get abused. But no you chase us into the shadows and the cycle continues.

You call us the cancer but you are not helping to fight that cancer effectively.

Top shelf body for sure. I wouldn't care if she were a butterface.

The reason age of consent laws exist is simply to stop predatory adults taking advantage of mentally immature children, not because society views sex as "dirty." Most societies don't view sex as dirty but they are still against the idea that adults fucking children should be legal.

If the child is not mentally mature enough to understand what its doing or the potential consequences/harm that could arise (STD's, victimisation, abuse etc.) then they CAN'T give informed consent and must be protected in law, so child molesters/abusers can be sent to prison where they are not a danger to children.

This makes perfect sense to me.

So, as a pedo, what do you suggest?

Should society change age of consent laws?

Should you be given child sex robots?

What would fix the problem of child abuse/molestation?

But that only works on the premise of fear of getting caught. Sexual desire is one of the strongest impulses in nature often overriding any fear. Same goes for blind rage when someone hurts another. Fear only prevents pre-meditated most of the time and even then it does not always work.

humbert was no romantic hero,
humbert was a literary rekt thread
yes there was irony that other abusers escaped justice, and that humbert tried to get justice or revenge, sick fail at that as well as at love,
obviously a devious monster through and through.
nabokov probably abused irl fwiw
probably not an abuser

Everyone in the book was using everyone else for their own ends except for Humbert, who was in love. Lolita didn't hate Humbert but she did disdain his affections and took advantage of them. I have wondered, had the two of them not been living in such a toxic environment, if they mightn't have developed a mutually loving relationship -- Lolita seemed to be heading that way just before she went off to camp.

Nobokov is often criticized for being an apologist for hebephilia but the sense I got from him was a moralistic warning along the lines of "just because she acts grown up doesn't mean she is grown up".

So, as a murderer, what do you suggest?

Should society change the penalty?

Should we be given robots we can kill?

What would fix the problem of murder?

It's not like I can't just not murder someone.

Allowing us to come out just like other sexual orientations have. Allowed to come out without fear of being thrown into jail or chased by an angry mob down the streets (never gonna happen I know since society has been brainwashed). Allowed to come out and get help to keep our desires in check. Allowed to use any aids we need including simulated CP and child sex dolls. Just as long as no actual child is harmed in the process. It will also allow monitoring to a degree to keep pedos away from jobs involving child care.

>Fear only prevents pre-meditated most of the time and even then it does not always work.

So you're saying that age of consent laws stop pedos from planning and carrying out a sexual relationship with a child but does not prevent spontaneous child molestation?

Well, obviously it can't prevent abuse, molestation or rape, but it tries to make up for this shortcoming by sending the abuser/rapist to prison once convicted.

Can you come up with a better alternative because I sure as fuck can't.

Equating murder with sexual desire is the stupidest thing I ever heard. There are very few murderers compared to pedos anyhow. It's estimated that 1% of the population are pedophiles. If 1% were murderers the jails could not hold them all.

look at your picture and take a good hard look at what he said. This will take awhile, I know, but just let us know when you puzzled it out.

Yeah, they can just not molest/abuse children, but they're the ones crying about how society doesn't understand them.

>Allowing us to come out just like other sexual orientations have.
Sure, come out, user. Come out as a pedophile. I actually think that would be a good idea, even better if you could register on some database so the public will know your orientation and can take measures to protect their children from abuse.

>Allowed to come out without fear of being thrown into jail

It's not illegal to be a pedo. it's illegal to abuse children or produce/download child porn. The reason these things are illegal is because they are harmful to children. Protecting children is more important than protecting a pedophile's CP habit.

>society has been brainwashed
[citation needed]
How is it brainwashing if there are legitimate reasons for age of consent laws to exist?

> Allowed to come out and get help to keep our desires in check.
So you agree that you are a problem if you understand than you must get help.

>Allowed to use any aids we need including simulated CP and child sex dolls. Just as long as no actual child is harmed in the process. It will also allow monitoring to a degree to keep pedos away from jobs involving child care.
That is probably a good idea.

No. You are presuming all pedos are molesters which is not the case. You may also assume all pedos are potential molesters which is also wrong as that is thought crime until such a time as you can predict the future.

Age of consent laws vary by country anyhow and also vary by age difference (the Romeo & Juliet law applies in some places).

Therapy CAN prevent abuse and molestation. Laws have been shown only to punish those that already crossed the line. What would you prefer? A man goes to jail for molesting a child (at your tax paying expense btw) or a man goes to a therapist with the possible outcome of never having to abuse a child? The latter is harder since most therapists are required by law to report anyone considered a threat to society and themselves. At least where I live. That needs to change.

If you were incapable of understanding your own decisions at 12 I feel very sorry for you.

>It's estimated that 1% of the population are pedophiles
Source, faggot.

Its regarded as a masterpiece of literature, so I guess its fine

Her tits look freaking amazing, moar?

I meant media brainwashing where every pedo is an evil monster to be hung from a tree. Have you not heard about pedos being chased from neighborhoods? Did you not hear about the pediatrician being hounded because dumfuck norrmies did not realize a pediatrician is a doctor who helps child instead of a pedophile? This is the society we live in. When those 'soccer moms' and dads cannot think for themselves but have to be handheld by whatever the press is reporting that day about the 'horrors' or child predators.

I agree with all of this, accept the idea of monitoring makes me nervous, i think i would just lead to persecution. obviously offenders need to be monitored.

>You are presuming all pedos are molesters which is not the case
No, I'm not. I was directly responding to your "pre-meditated" comment.

>What would you prefer? A man goes to jail for molesting a child (at your tax paying expense btw) or a man goes to a therapist with the possible outcome of never having to abuse a child?
I'd first have to see how effective therapy is. Also, crimes should not go unpunished. there must exist a disincentive for adults to molest children. If I had a strong urge to murder someone I really dislike, and the only consequence of murdering that person would be a few months of therapy instead of hard time in prison, I think it would be easier to rationalise murdering the person.

Also, re: tax-paying expense. Who is going to pay for the child molestor's therapy?

>If you were incapable of understanding your own decisions at 12 I feel very sorry for you.

Sure thing, user. 12 year old's are emotionally mature and rational. 12 year olds should be allowed to vote and drink alcohol, and fuck whoever they want.

Absolute retard.

3 days ago when i watched Logan i had a strange experience. I liked that little girl in the movie. Not in a sexual way ofc i am not a pedo but i felt like hugging her and look after her. Maybe i just want a little daughter ? But wtf i am just turned 21

Yeah I guess that is a bit too far. But I would worry about known pedos working in child care and schools etc. Not sure how you could get around that without some kind of system in place. As a pedo myself and as a responsible adult I doubt I would be a threat. Especially since I am not a fan of children anyhow outside of fantasy (Most of my sexual fetishes are fantasy based and nothing like how real life is). I find them 'icky' in reality. But this may not be the case for all.

I count myself as a basement dwelling wizard who will never reproduce and pass on my inferior genes.

>butchered grammar again

I did not say to remove or change the laws like you implied. But right now there is no recourse for pedos to get help without fear of being outed/reported and ending up on a watch list.

There is nothing wrong with feeling fatherly. It's natural to want to protect a child. Even if they are not your own. Nothing sexual about it.