Why didn't they just kill him? They killed Benny for just seeing El. Hopper snuck into thier lab and saw the portal and was already very clearly looking into thier coverup. Why would they just let him go and not even properly tail him.
I mean the guy was a junkie who lived alone and lost a daughter, suicide by overdose wouldn't exactly be a hard story to spin.
Really poorly thought out screenwriting
I was wondering that too. But I think it would be very suspicious if he died while in a case of mysterious disappearances and people know he was unto something
When they captured him, they asked "Who are you, Are you CIA...NSA?"
They feared he was affiliated with higher government, thus they didn't kill him. And he very well may be a double agent, we'll have to see in Season 2.
Because Hopper has at the very least a special forces history and they were worried that he was a higher up. Which he probably is, hence the ending and hence him getting them out of there on his terms with everyone but Eleven walking away clean.
There's a lot more to him than we're currently aware of. The series is full of clues.
Random burger shack owner suicide vs chief of police of an entire town.
Which draws more attention? You've got multiple disappearances and then the chief dies. Who knows who he has told about the investigation. Hes just too high profile to off.
Hop obviously has some sort of military history that he walked away from to be with his kid. If he died under mysterious circumstances people would ask questions.
Why does the music sound like a Ryan Gosling film?
They killed Benny back when they thought the problem could be quickly contained by recapturing El. After that, multiple kids started disappearing and the main goal was to mitigate the amount of suspicion they could invite on themselves.
It's one of many plot holes in the series. Just waiting for an intelligent Youtuber to tear this shit hole apart.
Is there going to be a season 2? That little boy who plays Elle is such a great actor
I don't know, I'd love to tell you but Jews BTFO'd Netflix and I can't get past episode 4
>intelligent Youtuber
This is the theory I've been running with.
>Isn't shy about resorting to violence
>Gun always at the ready
>His diner friend was murdered and he took that shit in stride
>Singlehandedly Solid Snaked his way into a high security government facility
>Just about singlehandedly solved the conspiracy in a few days
>Ventured into a nightmare world voluntarily
>Successfully negotiates with an organization that straight up murders witnesses
My guess is he's a former operative.
I'm thinking the same.
MILLIE IS A GIRL
They made it very clear he was more than just a big city cop before his daughter died.
She straight up looks like a boy. Everything about her facial structure and features makes her look like a boy.
this faggot was way too much of an operator to just be a normal small town cop. i'm thinking that shit at the end where he got in the car with those suits wasn't about him meeting up with the research lab guys, but him meeting up with some other government agency he either is or was affiliated with.
that or he was just a mary sue with plot armor
I thought they he was going to break out or the kids would save him.
Than I assumed that they drugged him and hoped he just imagined everything
Then I thought they drugged him and planted all those pills to frame him if he was to do something
Now I realize they just drugged him and put him back in his house with a bug
According to an off handed line from one of the rando characters he used to be a big town badass cop.
>Millie Bobby Brown
>Bobby
Explain this
He has intimate knowledge of the upside down without being a crazy mom. He's also cooperating. Worth too much to just axe.
You clearly see Brenner in that car
Boys and girls tend to look more or less the same until they hit puberty.
Puberty doesn't change the shape of your skull and face, and hers is masculine as fuck.
>Next season all of the kids (except for BBC) will go full Bran and lose all their boyish charms and just be some ugly teenager.
Elle still a cute though hopefully.
i don't think so, m80, pretty sure the monster jumped on him and he was implied to have his face eaten off
Your skull keeps growing until you're about 20.
>Thinking about rewatching ST
>see this thread
>get to rewatch the show while thinking that maybe ding dong isn't such a gary stu plot advancer, might actually have a real excuse for his shenanigans
neat, thanks goys
He used to be a cop in NY or wherever, he was just chilling as a small-town cop because he'd given up.
The spooks in the car at the end clearly weren't the ones from the research lab. I'd say they were people from higher up in the government who wanted answers on what the fuck had happened, because the research lab guys had clearly been keeping quiet about their fuck-ups. If the top guys in the CIA/government had actually heard about the incursion of a parallel universe and their test subject escaping they would have quarantined the entire town and not bothered with staging suicides and shit like that. The research lab guys were scared about catching flack for possibly ending the fucking world when all they were supposed to do is spy on the ruskies.
BAHAHAHAHA, Okay.
Because is a double agent you fucker.
They let him go and bugged his place. Sometimes it's best to let a rat go so you can find it's nest. He obviously knew more than the diner owner and they needed to know how much he knew, who else knew, and who he was working for.
She looks like Natalie Portman
Jesus come back to facebook.
But this was a city cop that went back home to avoid all of the shit he had to deal with in the city only for it to follow him. It is not too out there to assume when shit starts going down that that is what finally pushes him over the edge.
>start watching
>think Hopper is going to be the annoying useless small-town sheriff that refuses to believe everyone, forcing them to work out everything on their own
>mfw he turned out to be the hero instead
This.
Do people even fucking pay attention?
I got the impression by the ending that the government wants to recruit him and/or use him to help get El back.
No. The whole focus is on making baseless critics saying it is a product of the Zionists and the story have 6600000millons plot holes.
If word gets out that TPB don't honor deals, people are less likely to make deals. Game theory.
>saying it is a product of the Zionists
Is this a thing? I know people dislike it here on Sup Forums (don't come here often, so forgive my ignorance) and assumed there would be some irritation from "Muh Strong Independent Woman) in Nancy and 11, but do people *actually* think's outright shilling?
In fact this show is not contaminated with the "jew-enriched-culture" but this faggots
are so much flammer and they have no idea what they are saying.
So El is back in the spoopy world? Why don't they just go get her?
If you remember, the lab agents escalated their attempts to deal with him by first bugging his trailer, attempting to stage his suicide by drug overdose (at which point he makes a deal by threatening a media leak that makes them think either he's capable of it or of being an agent himself–MKUltra is officially over at this point in time after all the senate hearings, so it'd be a big fucking deal), then granting him access to the portal, which to their minds is as good as a death sentence. They fucked up. The CIA MKUltra researchers fucked up often because they were all randomly whacked out on LSD and whatever the fuck else they were experimenting with themselves. If you buy the narrative at all, this would have been a super seekret research department, hidden even from the agency with a limited budget and leadership not equipped to deal with inter-dimensional portals and shit.
I think this, too, although it looks to me like they would have chosen to bring him into the fold anyway over the media shenanigans of a whole town quarantined in the middle of the U.S. Realistically, this would not work very well. I thought the whole thing was pretty smart. Fairly realistic human motivations and reactions despite all the crazy science fiction shit.
They way he just icily told them what they were going to do next (This is what's going to happen, etc.) implies he had some kind of authority that was didn't explicitly see. He may well have been like "This is my service number, phone up the NSA and they're going to tell you to do as your told."
Department of Energy might be shady, but they're not nearly as scary as some of the alphabet agencies, particularly not during the cold war.
Not sure, the fact that dude was leaving eggos out for her in the woods suggests she's around in some kind of substantial way.
>let's go to the dimension full of invincible monsters
>and try to find the girl that can kill you instantly with her brain
>and bring her back
he isn't there
Brenner isn't dead
he's also strangely unfazed when he figures out the CIA is behind MKUltra etc. i found that interesting. even a big city cop might have trouble with that, but not a hardened operative
>over the media shenanigans of a whole town quarantined in the middle of the U.S. Realistically, this would not work very well.
I don't see them having any problem with saying something about "pinko commies sabotage at plant dangerous emissions blah blah nuclear" to explain it away. It's not like the inhabitants of the town would realise that they're being tested and removed from the town because of extra-dimensional aliens instead of radiation or toxic shit. Once the people are out(except for the mother and brother, who both tests positive for exposure and so needs treatment at a government hospital specialised at it) of the town they'd have an easier time keeping it secure than they would today.
If HE was the one who found out from the beginning? Sure. But all he did was read newspaper articles. It's no different than us reading articles about it. I wasn't exactly fazed by it when I first read about it, only intrigued/excited in the same way Hop was. And I wasn't focusing on a boy being missing when I read about it, either.