Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that this show has zero depth? It's all style, no substance.
They tried too hard to make the characters likable that they don't even seem like real people. The black kid is so fucking annoying I don't know why they didn't kill the niglet off. Every line he had was him being a complete asshole to his friends.
Anything important about the Upside Down is skimmed over and is left unexplained, which was a huge mistake because now the series has a bunch of plot holes. The only thing the Duffer Brothers care about is jerking off about the 80s and not writing a story that makes sense. I can't wait for everyone to get on the bandwagon and realize this is such an empty series with fabricated and shallow emotional performances.
Hudson Lewis
Literally what show?
James Clark
>zero depth? It's all style, no substance.
Yep. True Detective season 1 2.0
Evan Gonzalez
And dont forget that this show is void of humor. It's clearly made by hacks that dont care about personal artistic input. If their idea was ripping off from others and mixing it up in a predictable and forgettable show they achieved that.
Aiden Stewart
Fuck you
Zachary Gray
Delete this before the Netflix shills find out and the jews will kill you for it.
Elijah Martin
>why so butthurt?
Joshua Robinson
It doesn't even handle style that well.
Kayden Ortiz
I liked the kids and Hopper. I think the show's success partially lies in seeing the characters navigate the mystery, but I think for most part it's a stylistic success more than anything else. It's a very solid pastiche.
This is why I'm not sure the second season will be able to pull off what the first did, especially if turns out to be a sequel and not an unrelated story in the same style.
Ethan Wright
>Being this butthurt
Luis Martinez
Ladies and gentleman: Contrarians
Jack Ortiz
>Every line he had was him being a complete asshole to his friends. you mean being the most sensible?
Brayden Thomas
The story made perfect sense. There were no plot holes, only interpret-able mysteries which any good show will do to generate conversation. The show did enough blunt explanation for even the plebiest of plebs to understand everything. Even people that have no experience at all with the idea of parallel realities/dimensions/universes should get this. Those sorts of things are part of universally understood culture now.
The only real criticism you can level is that it was derivative or paint by numbers.
Jackson Howard
>le bald person with psychic powers that scapes from a government laboratory
Can it be any mire cliche? I watched rhe first three episodes and theres nothing sci fi about this show. Everything is cliche as fuck. Why are people talking good about it?
Samuel Hughes
He was still kind of an asshole.
Jordan Lee
Check OP's filename, numbnuts.
Luis Sanchez
Honestly, I'd love to see a sequel that explored the Upside Down and its creatures more. There must be more than just that one monster and a bunch of alien fungus, and there's certainly more to learn about how exactly that world connects/interacts with ours. I'd love more solid worldbuilding in that regard, and a sequel could achieve that.
Wyatt Thompson
>theres nothing sci fi about this show. Everything is cliche as fuck.
Are you saying that if it's cliche it can't be considered sci-fi? It's more horror than sci-fi anyway, but it's dumb to say "It's not sci-fi because it's cliche."
Lucas Campbell
I personally don't think the Upside Down is very interesting. It was more interesting the less we knew about it. What drove the show was the characters figuring it out--the teamwork of the kids and Hop's Mulder-esque investigation of the conspiracy. I just don't think it's unique or interesting enough on its own to really justify another season dedicated to it. The Upside Down and the monster were the least interesting parts to me, especially in the second half.
I feel the same way about the characters themselves. I liked most of them, but I'm not sure there's enough left to do with them to warrant revisiting them. I could be wrong, though. I hope I am if that's the direction they're going to take.
Josiah Diaz
dustin best girl
Elijah Thompson
dustin is LITERALLY /ourguy/
Angel Reyes
I didn't say that. What I said is that there's nothing sci fi about it at least what Ive seen in the first three episodes AND it's cliche as fuck.
Alexander Clark
>it's cliche as fuck Yep >there's nothing sci fi about it it gets their, its a SK kinda sci-fi tho which is either bad or good depending on taste
Nolan Edwards
>I personally don't think the Upside Down is very interesting.
I think it could be made interesting, though. I think it was some lost potential, honestly. It seemed weird to me that only the one monster and some weird fungus existed there, I was expecting more than just that. I was actually surprised when a character just so casually stated they were going to kill the monster, because up until that point I was thinking it was multiple creatures. I was imagining that the other dimension broke through to ours somehow and was now seeping in and trying to take over and absorb our reality.
I thought the different times we saw the monster it was a different monster of the same or similar species, breaking through temporarily as the borders between worlds weakened, abducting people and then being sucked back. But nope, it's just one monster and the Upside Down is just... empty.
So then I thought maybe the monster came about from an experiment or was some alien/extradimensional creature that was actually creating the Upside Down itself, and it was spreading out over time and covering more of the world, which is why we saw it near Will's house first, then at further and further locations as it spread its other-dimensional spores and expanded its personal dimension in parallel to ours. Essentially creating a pocket dimension to exist in while fucking with our actual dimension and inhabitants. But nope, not that, either. The Upside Down is just another parallel dimension that was always there and this just happens to be the only creature in it, no others.
Maybe it's some kind of crazy apocalyptic time travel situation and that's why all the man-made buildings are there. NOPE.
I dunno. I had all kinds of ideas swirling in my head about what it all could be, but they didn't do ANY of it and went with the least interesting possible options for everything. So I hope season 2 expands on the potential they squandered here and turns it into something more interesting.
Asher Jenkins
This guy knows it. I regret watching this tumblr-tier bullshit.
Jaxon Jackson
The show's cover art has stars/galaxies. Best believe we seeing some Aliens next season.
Jeremiah King
>It's another Sup Forums wants to be a contrarian episode
David Edwards
>Anything important about the Upside Down is skimmed over and is left unexplained
Care to elaborate?
Samuel Williams
>a show like The Walking Dead has 16 episodes per season >Sup Forums: fucking Jews at AMC! Filling up the episodes with pointless filler bullshit for more money! >a show like Stranger Things has only 8 episodes >Sup Forums: fucking Jews at Netflix! They didn't make the season long enough because they're cheap and now were stuck with a bunch of plotholes and a story that makes no sense
Pick one, I'm glad it was a short season with no filler bullshit, so I'm not sure what the appropriate length for a season of a tv show that Sup Forums would find appropriate
Anthony Rogers
Glad I'm not the only person who was disappointed by this show. It's easy to grab people with mystery but the end result was so unsatisfying.
Gavin Hughes
I was honestly surprised when it ended on episode 8. 10 one hour episodes it's a tried and true show period that this shoe would have benefitted by adopted.
Nathaniel Campbell
>its another didn't like the monster post
Gabriel Gomez
when acting irrational seems rational and someone who is acting rational is telling you you're being irrational they'll always seem like assholes. >tell friends girl is dangerous >argue over it >get rekt by girl he wasn't wrong in any situation except for his friend's body
Leo Evans
I appreciate how honest they were with making Nancy end up with Steve.
Parker Campbell
I think they might have wanted to, the whole 4th wall breaking shit at the end with lucas >it was 10 hours sounds like the script might have planned for it and netflix cut it to 8
just a theory
Isaac Perry
I felt like that entire scene was directed at the audience, like they were expecting to hear complaints about plot holes and unexplained things and how it wasn't long enough, so they're basically telling the audience, "It was long enough, not everything needs to be explained right now, stop worrying about plot holes, and we'll cover more in later seasons, so fucking simmer down!"
Nicholas Bell
yea def, what i'm saying is I think in the script he says 10 because they planned for 10 eps and it was cut to 8
Julian Rivera
Fuck you guys, this show was great. It split things up into multiple simultaneous stories, but unlike some shows (GoT), they were all pretty interesting on their own instead of having like one story you always wanted to get back to and one story that was fucking boring as hell
They were also very good at eeking out the information at a good pace. Most shows that tread the same mystery/horror line just feed you more and more questions and no answers for 90% of the show/movie, and then try to answer everything too quickly all at once towards the end. This show did a phenomenal job of answering questions along the way so that the first 2/3rds didn't just feel like filler leading up to a climax
Christian Ramirez
That's possible. Might also be they just didn't want it to be TOO on the nose.
Joshua Diaz
Ok Sup Forumseddit
Neat buzzwords, nice opening meme to your post. Your post is all style, no substance.
James King
>Anything important about the Upside Down is skimmed over and is left unexplained
Like what?
Brody Green
>something not being over-explained means it's a plot hole
I really miss the days when plot hole wasn't just another meaningless buzzword.
Michael Jenkins
>the series has a bunch of plot holes.
Like what?
Caleb Bell
...
Grayson Barnes
>It seemed weird to me that only the one monster and some weird fungus existed there
Why? She only touched one creature, this creating the bridge that linked it to our universe. She didn't link two places, only herself with the thing she touched, creating a new place interconnected with ours when doing so. The place itself was just the town around her injected into a new place and then populated by the creature and all the spore stuff. If anything the sludge and fungus stuff is the weird shit, but I guess they were somehow linked to the creature itself being a weird fungus/flower creature.
Jordan Carter
>She didn't link two places, only herself with the thing she touched, creating a new place interconnected with ours when doing so.
This seems like a reasonable explanation, but that wasn't the impression I got from the show. It seemed to me that Eleven only created a bridge from one existing world to another, not that anything was newly created when it happened.
Carson Torres
G-GRAVITY FALLS IS CANCELLED?
W-WELL!! B-BETTER RIP IT OFF AND THEN ALSO RIP OFF EERIE INDIANA B-BUT IT'S AN HOMAGE!
Dominic Howard
It was fun but I also agree the that its style and tone was the only thing that really stood out. At the end of it I just felt like I had to re watch the films that inspired this series, but I don't think I would do the opposite and re watch this season in the future, sadly. Maybe s2 will be better.
>The black kid is so fucking annoying I agree, but he was the most sensible one. I just think his acting wasn't as good as the rest of the kids, so he felt a little grating.
Blake Roberts
I don't think it's that, I think the kid played a rude, abrasive asshole pretty well. I mean yeah, he was sensible, but he was kind of a dick about it. The issue is, he was the only person reacting realistically and reasonably to a fantasy situation, so regardless - he's gonna come off as a prick, because he's the guy that wants to turn off the audience's fun.
Jaxon Ward
forcing le ebin alternative 80s music down our throats is getting old. never want to hear that clash song again.
Mason Brooks
>show takes place in the 80's >nothing about it feels authentic at all
Hate this shit
Lincoln Gutierrez
nobody said mouth breather, chill or douchebag in the 80s
Grayson Williams
It didn't seem that way to me at all, because of what you yourself stated. There's only one creature running around, the one she touched. Things are only happening at a very local level instead of a world-wide convergence, and how could the parallel universe have all those exactly-the-same buildings as the human world if it doesn't have, or seem to ever have had, humans? The way she got rid of the creature was by removing herself as well, because the two were linked.
To me everything pointed to the upside-down just being a temporary middle-ground created between two parallel universes, not a parallel universe in itself.
Jack Ortiz
i have to admit i hated the nig nog too, but its finally a show with charakters i actually cared about, didnt have this feeling since dexter 1-2.
Adrian Walker
>gravity falls wew lad
Jose Harris
Wow, there's actually a lot of meta dialogue in that scene
>What about the proud princess? (Barbra?) >The weird flowers in the cave (Eggs in the Upside Down?) >The Lost Knight (literally who?)
Julian Bell
>The Lost Knight (literally who?)
Guy who was sent in by the science guys might have escaped? Seems like the most obvious analogue to a knight getting lost in a dungeon.
Samuel Roberts
b8 prob b8 but >Mysterious Knight Hop
Aiden Walker
>b8
what the fuck is wrong you? are you from reddit or something?
Austin Carter
Hop is the least lost of all characters at the end, mate. He was lost at the start of the show and obviously found himself again by the end.
Jack Phillips
On second episode, she better not lose her virginity to douchebag steve Reeeeeeeeeeeee
Jaxon Bailey
b8 >Mysterious Knight
Liam Jones
What's this show about? I haven't had Netflix in a while but I keep hearing good thing about here so I might end torrenting it
Camden Wood
...
Joshua Campbell
I've only seen about three episodes. I like the 80s setting because it removes some of the forensic capabilities of the present and adds to the mystery/spooky atmosphere. I don't think it's utilized all that well, but it is something to consider. The opening title track is wonderful, as is the 80s pulp-horror font. So far, I'm not terribly engaged though.
David Thompson
>flourishes bat Why is Steve the best character?
Daniel Taylor
Are you doing some kind of reverse-baiting and pretending to be retarded, or do you actually think the kid said Mysterious Knight and not Lost Knight?
Jaxon Adams
Its an 80s kids adventure movie mixed with xfiles
Elijah Fisher
>Its an 80s kids adventure movie mixed with Stephen King
Fix'd. It felt hardly nothing like X-Files except for the bits in the library maybe and the spooks.
Brody Hernandez
Reeeee She had sex with the chad Reeeeeeeeeeee
Both thesw degenerates need to die horrible deaths on the show now Literally all women are sluts Reeeeeeeeeeeee
Joshua Carter
killing myself brb
Ian Lopez
>shitting up the show with characters other than the 4 kids
Why?
Carter Mitchell
I agree. Whenever the plot focused on other groups, I just wanted to go back to El and the guys.
Ayden Wright
>mfw Mr. Clarke pulled out a pen and paper
Brayden Hill
there is no pleasing, they hate things just to hate things, and god forbid you enjoy something, then youre a shill
Andrew Bailey
>He didn't like the Nancy/ Johnathan Slasher
Levi Torres
It was a peper plate.
REEEEE
Zachary Flores
I watched it for cancer girl
Oliver Campbell
tired of you negative nancies
why dont you calm your autism down and just enjoy a show for once? it's a fun thriller mystery and it had me on the edge of my seat the whole time.
Mason Anderson
who else /didntread/ here?
Robert Reyes
...
Jackson Parker
Why does everyone hate Lucas? He played the vital role of logical skeptic in the group, and while we the audience knew that Eleven was good someone in his position had literally no reason to think so. Sometimes-spotty acting aside, he had one of the more realistic reactions to all the weird shit going on.
Leo Ortiz
The earliest reference I could find to douchebag in the urban dictionary was 2004 that's like 20 years after Stranger Things took place
William Ramirez
I'm enjoying it an you can't stop me.
Austin Cruz
You think Urban Dictionary existed in the 80s?
Jaxon Rivera
I hate him, but I feel bad for it because he has a very valid point.
Charles Butler
It's a starting point inasmuch that we can be certain that douchebag was invented no later than 2004
Justin Cook
'Douchebag and its variants, or simply douche,[10][11] are pejorative terms[11] referring to an arrogant, obnoxious, or despicable person.[12] The slang usage of the term originated in the 1960s.[13]
Blake Mitchell
Make Gravity Falls but good. I like it.
Jace Perry
Chief o' Police Jim Hopper was the man. It was a little ridiculous how he broke into the complex and got so far, but fuck it he looked cool doing it