Ask a 27 year old loser who is going to begin self-learning javascript tomorrow for 6-12 months to then get a low level...

ask a 27 year old loser who is going to begin self-learning javascript tomorrow for 6-12 months to then get a low level java programming job anything

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What makes you think anybody will hire a self taught 27 yo with no 6-12 months exp?

When you could hire a 24ish yo with 2-3 years formal higher education in the field and 1-2 years of actual work exp, who has sound knowledge in multiple languages such as c++, c#, java, html etc

javascript isn't enough. you need to learn SQL--very easy, it's a fucking joke--and PHP--difficult because you can make endless changes and if one thing is wrong nothing updates when you refresh--and html--relatively easy--before you can "do" anything. i took a course last year as a college elective.

Introduction to the techniques and technologies for developing dynamic web sites. Topics include a web server, PHP as the server-side scripting language, the MySQL database, JavaScript and AJAX for enriching web services, and page layout with HTML and CSS. Security concerns will be considered with details for prevention of such vulnerabilities in web applications.

this is the basic starter kit. javascript alone is just stupid java for web and without anything else, it's stupid.

well you better start learning java if your going to get a java job.

right then, propane tank + oxygen mask it is. goodbye user

thanks, i forgot what java vs javascript was. I meant to say java. But still, i appreciate your advice. any other tips?

Weeew.
Sorry to kill your spirit user.
But im turning 23 this year, learning web design atm and even i feel like ill be too old and expensive to hire when i graduate.

Never mind a 28yo who has no actual education

its too late for me. I've wasted too much time. I'm not going to bother with school and get out of it at age 31-32 to start at a point 22 year olds are starting at. Thats a dead end.

Its over

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i should have added this. if you wanted to be a web programmer this is the book and its lectures. it was a challenging class but i took it online. i would spend hours chatting with the instructor in the evenings through google chat.

java then? ok. i took my two semesters and then, if i get into the major, i will have to take advanced java. over the summer i was going to take the udemy java course, because it covers everything you learn in the first year of java. it's a free course.

udemy.com/java-tutorial/

is the one i'm doing. you need to learn interfaces and file IO, etc. it has everything you learn in the first two semesters. i think learning java is good. it's how we start getting a CS degree here. C# is microsoft's answer to java. they licensed java, changed it too much, got sued, and made their own. C# is much more efficient but java is portable. good for you to learn on your own.

thanks!

taking a year to learn java?

learn c and you will automatically know java

...

Its not over.
Just too little too late in that field.

Go and work in the mines or learn how to run a casino table, they both pay top $$$
And dont need much exp

nice quads.

nah I'll continue on with this programming learning. I looked it up and plenty of sweet jobs right here my city that pay well. Just got to work up the skills. My grandfather owns a manufacuring business I can practice these skills on to work up a decent portfolio before companies here take me seriously.

go back to medicine

I'd learn how to hack systems - You can have two choices then: Hack servers, earn Bitcoin or hack for companies, earn real money.

woaw man. you're just like me. I had an unfinished degree in applied math although a shitload of credits and wanted to get into software engineering. I took a bunch of moocs, went to a coding bootcamp (one of the top ones) and then spent a shit ton of time interviewing and applying to jobs. I started this journey over 2 years ago also at 27 and still no job.. but I do know a shitton of full-stack development as well as a couple of backend languages. Its a lot of work and you're competing with ivy league CS majors who won hackathons and people with like 10 years of experience in every damn interview. Good luck man, it might take you longer than anticipated and you may literally cry many many times but I'm hoping in the end it'll be worth it for me, and for you as well. I've sunk much of time into this that I basically can't walk away from continuing to apply and interview.

I only ask that if you're going to learn programming, at least try to be fucking decent at it. I'm so sick of dealing with retards who barely know what a variable is and are only capable of coding by mangling copy-pasted examples they found on the internet.

Land a job without prior programming formal education (got an engineering degree though).

Work with my current boss as its client, the man saw I was smart and hired me. Learn everything on the job.

3years later, I'm full stack developer who have made full application (server, mobile app, web application) for big world-level corporation single handedly.

If your smart, who cares of some degree, computer is the place to self/late learning.

I love your philosophy.

Have you looked into openings at Starbucks? I have a feeling that's the only java you'll be dealing with.

Gotcha!

I feel like I should sometimes but it will inevitably be single-payer gommie care and if I wanted to work at the DMV I'd work at one where people aren't bleeding