Explain yourselves, you fat, arterial clogged, pimpled face, bitch tit, stinky...

Isaac Hill
Isaac Hill

2017
Not Vegan

Explain yourselves, you fat, arterial clogged, pimpled face, bitch tit, stinky body odor, limp dick betas.

A whole foods plant-based diet can prevent the following: heart disease (major killer), aneurysms, strokes, cancer, diabetes (can reverse type 2), high blood pressure, inflammatory diseases, obesity, limp dick, spider veins, and being an overall unhealthy, smelly, fat bag of animal lard.

All urls found in this thread:

pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/earth/going-vegan-isnt-actually-th/
bluesky-web.com/color.htm
translate.google.com/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&u=http://mundoestranho.abril.com.br/mundo-animal/21-animais-que-parecem-fofos-mas-tem-comportamentos-assustadores/&edit-text=
supforums.com/thread/726654725/miscellaneous
acne.org/diet.html
veganhealth.org/b12/plant

Charles Lewis
Charles Lewis

Op is a faggot

Luke Sanchez
Luke Sanchez

you think your the hot shit but your just another idiot like the rest of them i bet the only pussy your getting is the type that says woof you stupid fuck by which i mean you get no pussy at all you ignorant cunt how about you get with the times and stop trying to pretend your something your not maybe then people wont hate you you stupid prink if i ever see you strolling in my neighbourhood ill fucking jump out the window with my brick and youll be pummelled into the sidewalk son like a motherfucker who thinks he knows what hes doing the police wont even care theyll take one look at you and theyll see your stupid clothes and decided you fucking deserved it.

Ryder Powell
Ryder Powell

Fuck your shitty thread.

Samuel Wright
Samuel Wright

Already am.

Inb4 the childish non-arguements and anger from morons who put garbage in their mouths without thinking.

Nolan Wilson
Nolan Wilson

Skinny omnivore here, scientists ruled widespread veganism as unsustainable.

Luis Ramirez
Luis Ramirez

Saving as copy pasta.

Leo Walker
Leo Walker

Too long; didn't read. Learn how to condense your thoughts, and when you do, reply and I'll read.

You mentally inept retard.

Spotted the fatty.

this

Skinny omnivore here

While you may be skinny, you arteries are clogged. You're dying on the inside. And eventually you will require some medication to stay well thanks to your bad dietary decisions.

Carson Davis
Carson Davis

fat
Has almost nothing to do with not eating meat. If you lose weight when you go vegan, eat more food you tit.
arterial clogged
Again, has nothing to do with meat, just happens that fast food burgers are a lot more popular than prime rib, or a good steak.
pimpled face
Been proven many, many times that the only way that food affects your acne is if you rub greasy food on your face.
bitch tit
That's just an insult
stinky body odour
Shower more you dumbass. Has nothing to do with food.
limp dick
No clue about this, but my dick still works fine so what does that prove...

Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

Do I get 50 bucks if I become a vegan?

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

unsustainable
Nice non use of citation dumbass.

Aaron Campbell
Aaron Campbell

why should i make a change to something that has been working for all of all of human history? we're all going to die anyway, why cant i enjoy my time with good meat?

Owen Sanders
Owen Sanders

What I don't get is if it's for purely health benefits why even call yourself vegan? I'm genuinely asking, like if you aren't against the slaughter of animals and only eat in such a way to promote good health, are you saying you would never ever ingest the smallest amount of chicken or fish for example ever again?

I'm pretty uneducated on the whole matter to be totally honest; I could see myself at one point following a vegan diet but I don't see why I would 100% neglect meat even just as a rare treat.

Josiah Gutierrez
Josiah Gutierrez

Has almost nothing to do with not eating meat.

Wrong.

pic related

Only vegans can maintain an ideal BMI all year around with little to no exercise. Try again.

Again, has nothing to do with meat, just happens that fast food burgers are a lot more popular than prime rib, or a good steak.

Again, wrong.

Main risk factor for heart disease: high cholesterol. Only dietary source: animal-based foods.

#REKT

Enjoy your heart disease and limp dick, fat ass. Bet your body odor reeks due to all that meat you eat. Stinky balls and cum, lol.

Been proven many, many times that the only way that food affects your acne is if you rub greasy food on your face.

Wrong. Animal based foods, especially cow tit dairy (which is only intended for calves), causes acne.

Shower more you dumbass. Has nothing to do with food.

Mask it all you want with showers and deodorant. Stinky.

No clue about this, but my dick still works fine so what does that prove...

Like most men eating meat, dairy, and eggs, you'll have a limp dick by your 40s to 50s.

Lay off the meat, son. Your vessels are so clogged it's starving your pea size brain of oxygen, making you more stupid than you already are.

KEK

#REKT

I win; you lose.

Vegans: 10

Fat meat eaters: -3

Robert Gonzalez
Robert Gonzalez

I would eat you if you were seasoned properly. Fuck off.

Jason Lewis
Jason Lewis

My arteries can't be clogged because I have a low cholesterol diet and walk everywhere, and you still can't beat the fact that global veganism is not sustainable.

Juan Hall
Juan Hall

Nope, but you'll save a lot of money by not going to the hospital and being on a lot of medications like most meat heads.

we're all going to die anyway,

That's what they all say, until you have a box of medications you take daily, perpetual hospital trips, surgeries, etc. Yeah, we will all die, but some of us prefer to be healthy until that point as opposed to suffering 2 to 3 decades before death. Dumb ass.

Unoriginal, regurgitated response. Proves your IQ is very, very low. Typical meat head.

Zachary Gomez
Zachary Gomez

Youre preaching to the wrong choir retard.

Anthony Torres
Anthony Torres

I have a low cholesterol die

Bull shit. The only way to have low cholesterol is to be plant-based. Period. And while exercise helps, it won't provide you with the low cholesterol a vegan has.

#REKT

I win; you lose.

Next.

Dominic Evans
Dominic Evans

i mean, if you're gonna die and we end up in the same pit after all we go through, why change everything? enjoy life, dont suffer and eat bland quinoa/kale every day

Gavin Murphy
Gavin Murphy

OP here. I do it for better health, lower weight, and overall better looks and physical performance. Not contributing to factory farming is just an added benefit.

Bentley Hill
Bentley Hill

Assumed it was common knowledge to people who practice or have concerns about veganism, but I'll go ahead and source. pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/earth/going-vegan-isnt-actually-th/

David Miller
David Miller

Just going by your own image proves humans aren't suppose to be pure plant eaters.

The second to last proves it all. The true herbivores is the only one who can digest cellulose. Shouldn't we be able to do this if we were "meant" to eat only plants?

Fuck you faggots are annoying.

Cellulose: an insoluble substance that is the main constituent of plant cell walls and of vegetable fibers such as cotton. It is a polysaccharide consisting of chains of glucose monomers.

Adam Torres
Adam Torres

I would eat you if you were seasoned properly.

Put your choice of seasoning on my cock and ass and eat it, gay boy.

Fuck off.

I'll fuck off, right in your mouth.

Aiden Turner
Aiden Turner

OP just thinks hes a god because he eats disgusting grasses and it still didnt get him pussy like he thought. Thats why hes ranting and raving about how meat makes your dick stop working.

OP it takes at most 30 to 40 years to be effected from daily meat intake. Thats plenty of time to live life. When you start getting sick. Kurt Cobain it. Shotgun in the mouth with your toe on the trigger.

Jason Rodriguez
Jason Rodriguez

How're them b12 and iron supplements treating you?

What? Can't get healthy amounts from tofu?

Your bones and muscles are weaker than chicken bones, faggot.

Chase James
Chase James

what is fish
what is white meat
Do you even know how to diet or did you just come here to yell at people?

Ryder Martinez
Ryder Martinez

Quit being such an evangelical vegan pussy.

Brody Bell
Brody Bell

Hhaha

Matthew Cooper
Matthew Cooper

i mean, im not trying to fight with OP's belief. I've always wanted a health reason to become a vegan or vegetarian. There's just not one good reason.

Charles Ramirez
Charles Ramirez

This bait is weak but it raises a question.
Why are vegans so hostile? Particularly on this subject?

William Reyes
William Reyes

Wow someone is mad. Maybe if you ate something that tasted good, you'd be a more pleasant person.

Noah Russell
Noah Russell

You didn't even answer my question, if tl;dr is your go-to mindset to anything that isn't blind acceptance or something you can angrily debunk, how do you even aim to sway people to your side?

Unless of course you're just a really shitty troll in which case it all makes sense.

Luis Wilson
Luis Wilson

There is no health reason. Vegans are like flat earthers or anti vacc people. They throw you all this shit fluffed up to sound nice. Then when you question it. They lose their shit and throw their claws out.

Evan Torres
Evan Torres

Just going by your own image proves humans aren't suppose to be pure plant eaters.

Why then do humans, unlike true carnivores and omnivores, get heart disease from dietary cholesterol, which only comes from animals? That alone proves me right, and proves you to be wrong.

Gay boy.

The true herbivores is the only one who can digest cellulose.

Humans are herbivores, ya tard. Like a lot of our primate cousins, we are furgivores with the added ability to consume starches.

You'll never find a vegan living on nothing but greens... you'd die or be very, very sick and skinny.

Fag.

OP just thinks hes a god

I am.

How're them b12

Natural bacteria that was destroyed thanks to pollution. Even meat heads and animals are deficient, which is why the meat you eat has been supplemented with it.

Don't need iron; iron levels are just fine.

Fag.

Gavin Hernandez
Gavin Hernandez

Because meat is good you fucking virgin

Adam Wilson
Adam Wilson

Then why have humans evoved to be the sole persistence hunter on the planet?

Why are we the apex predator?

Anthony Butler
Anthony Butler

Yea being a shit troll is so funny, so funny i forgot to laugh.
If you wanna be a fucktard why don't you come here and say it to my face so i can answer you with a swift fist to the nose.
Yeah you have a lot to say from hundreds of miles away but i bet if my fists were in reach of your face you would be like a tv on mute with no volume button So do yourself a favor and keep your mouth shut unless you want to die. Next time you think about saying something like that to me I want you to remember one thing. I know the guy that created google maps and I can locate you in the time it took me to type this. I trained in mike tysons gym, did i mention that I also have a record of 50 knockouts? Don't want anymore problems....didn't think so faggot.

Mason Torres
Mason Torres

ITT one single vegan proceeds to ad hominem the fuck out of everybody

Hey, guess what, at least I don't concern myself with dietary habits of others.

Christian Sullivan
Christian Sullivan

This has to be a copypasta

Jonathan Gutierrez
Jonathan Gutierrez

ad hominem

Is that the only fallacy you know? And sometimes ad hominems are warranted, including in this case. Besides, insults wasn't my only rebuttal.

Fag.

Matthew Fisher
Matthew Fisher

OP here.

SAY THAT TO MY FACE FUCKER NOT ONLINE AND WHAT HAPPENS. I'LL SLIT YOUR THROAT NECK.

Sebastian Hernandez
Sebastian Hernandez

Typical vegan. It seems as tho 50% of Vegans become vegan just to brag about it. Just eat what you want and shut the fuck up about it. The second someone decides to go vegan, they get up on their soap box about it. There are Vegans that die of health issues early, there are meat eaters that live to be 100. It's all a crap shoot. Again, eat what you what and keeps your useless opinions about other people's eating habits to yourself and your other preachy vegan cohorts. Simple.

Thomas Wright
Thomas Wright

Shut the fuck up already, tofu. No body gives a shit about your grass diet.

Kayden Roberts
Kayden Roberts

You have any idea what gorilla warfare is? I do, I was in the US Marine Core and I perfected it. I'm fully capable of using it on you motherfuckers. I will also bring my boys with me, My men are well armed and very foolhardy. and I have access to an arsenal of Uzis, Ak 47s and R-15s, if only you had thought a little more and you would not have to pray for your life. Do you even know the danger your're in if I find you? I am 100$ serious. Bunch of god damn newfag loser's here and I will not have it. At least I've had sex, had girlfriends, and gotten laid, and blowjobbed unlike you virgin pieces of unpatriotic SHIT!!!

Chase Gray
Chase Gray

Vegan fag

James Roberts
James Roberts

Your rebuttals are all based on tumblr science.

We were omnivores since our gerbil days, moron.

Sebastian Scott
Sebastian Scott

/thread

op is rekting you dumb meat eaters.

Nathan Miller
Nathan Miller

NO PLEASE NOT MY THROAT NECK

Ayden Rivera
Ayden Rivera

lmfao fucking OP is a retarded cuck

Michael Foster
Michael Foster

There are Vegans that die of health issues early, there are meat eaters that live to be 100. It's all a crap shoot.

being this stupid and ignorant
in 2017

Isaac Ortiz
Isaac Ortiz

Then why have we been the global apex predator since our inception?

Cows don't hunt for shits and giggles last time I checked.
also that frugivore is also a cannibalistic sadist of a creature

Hunter Reyes
Hunter Reyes

Best in thread.

Alexander Torres
Alexander Torres

Fuck off vegan shills.
Red makes humans hungry.

bluesky-web.com/color.htm
"We know through many scientific tests that red causes us to feel hungry"

B-but muh tormatoes! muh epulz!
Those crops aren't even native to where humans originated from.

Grayson Flores
Grayson Flores

That's not a justification to eat meat, eggs, and dairy from another animal's tit, you moron, and it doesn't prove that's it's healthy for you.

Michael Powell
Michael Powell

implying I give a shit what other people eat
implying I care of meat kills me faster

Guess what. Everything enjoyable eventually kills you.

Cooper Parker
Cooper Parker

2017
Going against your nature:
Switching sex is OK
Prefering to eat meat instead of ve-gay-tables is worse than terrorism

Can we just invent a time machine and go back to the 80's? Those were good times to live.

Justin Wright
Justin Wright

also that frugivore is also a cannibalistic sadist of a creature

Only when chimps kill a rival tribe, do they commit cannibalism. And it's rare. Chimps, one of our closest cousins, consumes 99% fruit and vegetation. And when fruit is scarce, they will consume ants to get by.

Adam Nelson
Adam Nelson

Um, yes it is. Eggs have more proteins and nutrients than that whole oak tree you need for breakfast to function.

Nolan Garcia
Nolan Garcia

Can we just invent a time machine and go back to the 80's? Those were good times to live.

In other words, reverse time so you can be more ignorant than you are now. Stay intentionally ignorant.

David James
David James

Modern humans have been on earth for about 200,000 years, if meat ripped our internal organs apart like you say it does I think we would have figure it out by now, fag

Benjamin Flores
Benjamin Flores

Dogma is a powerful thing my dude, /pure/ veganism is hard to maintain when the majority of complex, interesting dishes enjoyed worldwide contain animal product to some degree. Ever see how fucking Vegans try to lure you in with some "vegan alternative" to everything? Pizza being the most infamous example. I flirted with veganism because so many of my friends started to switch over because we watch a lot of fitness stuff on youtube (not a /fit/izen). I hated it, I tried to stick to it for a month and gave up after 3 weeks, I felt like shit and could not concentrate, though I'll admit that's part of the adjustment.

TL;DR fuck you vegans your pizza sucks and your ice cream is worse

Jacob Green
Jacob Green

anecdotes and no proper studies

wow meat tards only get stronger

vegan shill
meanwhile getting diseases from eating shit the meat industry pays the teachers to teach you in school

remember the food pyramid? yeah, that's paid by the animal product industry so you can keep eating that garbage

eventually you'll be on some kind of pills for something diet related (look up the top 5 killers in america)

and you'll be dropping big bucks to those corporations

gtfo meat industry shill, stop eating your blue pill feelings food and get out of there before it's too late

Carson Lopez
Carson Lopez

OP out.

I win; you all lose.

Vegans: 100/100

Clogged limp dick meat heads: -45/100

/thread

Kevin Young
Kevin Young

Read the rest of my post you fucking strawman pussy.

Joseph Baker
Joseph Baker

Except they fashion spears and eat monkeys and rodents on a daily basis.

And that was only recently discovered.

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

I'LL EAT YOUR FLESH VEGAN-SAN!

Luis Martinez
Luis Martinez

lumping veganism in the same basket even though it is NOT a LEFT/RIGHT issue

if you're worried so much about your own manliness that you have to pay for little animals to get abused so you can eat their corpses you've got some strong insecurities

might I mention animal product consumption increases risk of testicular cancer AND erectile dysfunction

Ethan Price
Ethan Price

eat monkeys and rodents on a daily basis.

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Tyler Barnes
Tyler Barnes

implying I eat storebought.

I have a butcher, dude. My meat is young and killed the day I cook it.

Ian Thomas
Ian Thomas

this hippie asshole smokes weed everyday
I'm the ignorant

Half of your brain has already been destroyed by hemp.

Noah Parker
Noah Parker

Apart from all the other arguements based in theory and not fact, are you saying you don't shower because you're vegan and you think you just smell better, and go around calling other people "stinky" like a fucking retard?

And addressing what little proof you do have, "body mass" has nothing to do with fat. For all you know it's all muscle heads that the surveyors picked out to tip the scales in vegan's favour, because with all the other shit vegan's spread, it's a guarantee that artificially changing the results of a survey is one of those ways.

Jeremiah Taylor
Jeremiah Taylor

ancestors tho

this is not an argument

if you want to do things based on our ancestors and roots you should be okay with rape since that's how procreation went down and various other nonsensical things we did as prehistoric men

Nolan Miller
Nolan Miller

Nice argument. I know you're dumb, but at least try.

Sebastian Adams
Sebastian Adams

"body mass" has nothing to do with fat.

Stopped reading right there. Say no more. Everything you say henceforth is invalid.

Lincoln Flores
Lincoln Flores

Hey man apples don't have ribcages :(

Sebastian Cook
Sebastian Cook

stupidest shit i've read all day......

Carson Thompson
Carson Thompson

a tribal muslim:

for every woman you don't rape, I will rape three!

epic ethical failure

either psychopathic or just oblivious

Joshua Torres
Joshua Torres

Fucking google it. When you observe chimpanzees, you realize how scarily fuckinh close they are to matching our perversion

Joshua Martinez
Joshua Martinez

You're actually retarded. "Body mass doesn't state anywhere that it means fat. If the graph said "body fat" instead maybe I'd pay attention to your shit arguements a bit more. As it stands, you have said nothing to counteract my reasoning of "surveying muscle heads for their biased survey"

Isaiah Ward
Isaiah Ward

Ad absurdum

Oliver Edwards
Oliver Edwards

You do realize that chimps wage wars, rape, steal, torture and kill for fun?

Hunter Jackson
Hunter Jackson

OP claims "victory"
OP leaves many viable arguements unanswered because MUH EGO
OP /threads himself

Proof right there, veganism leads to partial blindness, self bias, and egotistical and narcissistic behaviour

Eat your meat, kids.

Andrew Long
Andrew Long

and assuming this is true, what conclusion has this brought us?

We are not chimps, and we should not look at them to justify our ethical/logical actions.

Connor Clark
Connor Clark

Not that guy, but
Danth's law
Proof by assertion
Incomplete comparison
Unsound argument
And passing off falsehoods as truths then using one pf the above to defend yourself

Owen Gray
Owen Gray

Except we are only 1% removed from them.

This does not entail moral purity or sudden dietary changes. We are an animal.

Blake Myers
Blake Myers

Don't worry. All these weedhead hippies believe is humans are the only animals aggressive by nature.

Example:

ANIMAL - Otter ( Enhydra lutris )

To get food in the winter, males abduct pups of their own species and only release them in exchange for all the food hunted by the mothers. Another cruel habit is raping baby seals as a form of sexual exercise. The otters even kill the drowned victim and continue the abuse for up to a week, with the body already decomposing.

Just read this article (translated to english) from Mundo Estranho magazine (Strange World). Probably the weedheads will say the article was bought by corporations and it's completely bullshit. Because animals are always innocent saints.

Daniel Nguyen
Daniel Nguyen

Article URL:

translate.google.com/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&u=http://mundoestranho.abril.com.br/mundo-animal/21-animais-que-parecem-fofos-mas-tem-comportamentos-assustadores/&edit-text=

Wyatt White
Wyatt White

Moral of the story:

Nature is cruel and does not cater to hurt feelings

James Ortiz
James Ortiz

I'm not OP, but you cannot justify eating such unhealthy foods that cause detriment to the wellbeing of animals and even bigger detriment to us

animal products are good kids, do not wonder why you suffer from

ACNE
VARIOUS CANCERS
ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION
OSTEOPOROSIS
ALZHEIMERS
HEART DISEASE
DIABETES
and more!

Brayden Foster
Brayden Foster

Why has the human lifespan skyrocketed in the last century and reached its biological ceiling?

John Brown
John Brown

We'll f we're going by that comparison, (different person by the way) than not only are we actually 4% off from being genetically identical to chimps, but we're only 10% off of a domestic house cat. Do you want to shit in a box and eat your own shit? Didn't think so.

Cooper Morris
Cooper Morris

2017
still a faggot

get good OP

John Howard
John Howard

all these weedhead hippies
imagine applying this ad hom on vegans, especially when the characters are quite diverse. The only thing that can be surely pinpointed is that the political leanings are majority liberal, but there are conservative vegans as well. It is NOT a LEFT/RIGHT issue.

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

muh dizeez
All of which exist in all sorts of animalz regardless of their dietary habits

Noah Bennett
Noah Bennett

47
eating meat my whole life
avoided fast food as much as possible
basically the only meat I eat is fresh caught fish, whatever high quality steak I can find, and chicken
only thing on this list I've ever suffered from is acne when I was a teenager. Everyone has acne as a teenager.

Leo Reed
Leo Reed

Because a vegan faggot spraypainted my leather jacket in high school while screaming murderer.

I kicked the shit out of him.

Dominic Moore
Dominic Moore

Funny how we thread meat consumption now as we did with cigarettes 60 years ago, I guess it would take some more years before the truths get to the people.
current year

Levi Green
Levi Green

Why are the top 5 killers in the US Diet related?
appeal to futility

when someone gets terminal cancer I imagine you will tell them: "It's okay honey, the human lifespan has skyrocketed in the last century and reached its biological ceiling."

because you do not want to stray further away from the risk of this kind of death, instead you'd rather put it under the rug for a meal that can be substituted.

Owen Sanchez
Owen Sanchez

I am so fucking glad.

My girlfriend wanted to be vegan, I told her that I would not be with her if she wanted to be in this fucking cult. (I also gave lots of reasons why veganism is bullshit and one big circle jerk cult)
She quit the bullshit and now just wants fresh food. This is great.
Fuck vegans, they're fucking stupid. Try pretending to be vegan and watch all people pre judge you and then when you say otherwise they get mad as fuck just because of that. Regardless of how good of a person you are. It's a mental illness. You're fucking sick if you're "vegan" just shut the fuck up already. God damn

PS Vegan food fucking sucks

Anthony Myers
Anthony Myers

So you know, the second half of that post was comical. The first half was retardation by OP.

Ian Smith
Ian Smith

OK, got your point. But isn't that caused by the conservant chemicals added to meat?
So, hunting my own meat would solve it.

By the way, what's your excuse for not eating eggs?

Jayden Foster
Jayden Foster

Eat right. Exercise every day. Die anyway.

Jackson Carter
Jackson Carter

why live fully and reach age 70 when you can cry during every meal and reach 85

Brody Cooper
Brody Cooper

Because meat tastes good

Alexander Diaz
Alexander Diaz

Honestly? Vegans are just such a bunch of smug, condescending, up their own ass, obnoxious pricks, that at this point I can truthfully say I'm partly eating meat just to spite you fuckers.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go fry up some bacon.

Brandon Peterson
Brandon Peterson

Vegetables
Cyanide poisoning

Cassava is classified as either sweet or bitter. Like other roots and tubers, both bitter and sweet varieties of cassava contain antinutritional factors and toxins, with the bitter varieties containing much larger amounts.[6] It must be properly prepared before consumption, as improper preparation of cassava can leave enough residual cyanide to cause acute cyanide intoxication,[7][8] goiters, and even ataxia, partial paralysis, or death.[7][9] The more toxic varieties of cassava are a fall-back resource (a "food security crop") in times of famine or food insecurity in some places.[7][10] Farmers often prefer the bitter varieties because they deter pests, animals, and thieves.[11]

Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

I've done (risky activity) my whole life and I don't have (disease/disability)
Yes, because you've been more fortunate than others. Eating meat does not cause heart disease, but it increases the RISK. These risky foods have lead to the top 5 killers in the USA today.

It is like you're telling me you've smoked cigarettes your whole life and you're perfectly fine now, yeah sure! aside from some plaque in your lungs.

Everyone has acne as a teenager.

This is what you've been lead to believe, similar to the whole "it's okay to be disabled". It's not true. Hormonal imbalances are one of the causes that lead to acne, guess what causes hormonal imbalances? Hormonal foods, animal products.

Grayson Ward
Grayson Ward

I'm done here. Not one person has properly disproved my arguements and provided proof against them. It's either bullshit claims or insults. OP truly is a faggot.

Brayden Richardson
Brayden Richardson

haha you are so mad kid, you remember that one football player that didnt listen to his doctor and insisted on not changing his diet(he was told to stop eating animal based product). He died in the nest 5 years or so, sad!
btw vegan food does not suck at all, maybe you should stop relying on your mom to cook all your meals and star learning for yourself.

Tyler Price
Tyler Price

I like the stuff I put in my mouth to taste good, not like dirt

Bentley Harris
Bentley Harris

what is substituting ingredients until you reach a point where it tastes hardly different

does your mother still cook food for you? It's quite interesting what you can switch in and out to replicate tastes and textures..

Lincoln Bailey
Lincoln Bailey

My ex gf was hardcore vegan and had hardcore acne

Wyatt Brooks
Wyatt Brooks

I'm partly eating meat just to spite you fuckers.
yeah I'm just gonna smoke two packs of cigs today just to spite you

hope we dont get terminal cancer spiting people AHAHAHHAH LOL

Anthony Jones
Anthony Jones

Like I stated, hormonal foods are just ONE of the causes of acne.

Gabriel Gomez
Gabriel Gomez

One of the causes. There are plenty of others. And sure, I may have got lucky, but I still hold the belief that it's so unlikely for me not to have any of these if your claims are true, that it isn't meat causing these problems, it's the additives. I should have mentioned this earlier, but I do catch most of my own meat, apart from the steaks. The meat I was eating was a fresh as it could be, and I believe that's why I got so "lucky"

Besides, meat tastes damn tasty. I'd rather enjoy every meal and lost 10 years than eat less than optimal tasting food, but of course that's all down to opinion.

Landon Wilson
Landon Wilson

supforums.com/thread/726654725/miscellaneous

Angel Gutierrez
Angel Gutierrez

Wow! must taste like dirt..

Brody Sanchez
Brody Sanchez

I believe he meant the meat substitutes, no need to be rude. We all love watermelon, as well as pancakes/crepes

Sebastian Martin
Sebastian Martin

but meat substitutes taste like meat, they are so close right now most people cant even tell the difference. saddly its kindda expensive

Gabriel Thompson
Gabriel Thompson

Why would anyone want to live LONGER? That just means more bullshit to put up with.

Adam Gray
Adam Gray

compares meat to tobbacco
Are you the Retard level Boss?

I live on the Meditteranean, have hunted hares, boars and deer since childhood.
Fish in both salt and fresh water. We mainly subsist on game, chicken, seafood, seasoning and veggies. I ate kale before America knew kale existed.

All of my grandparents reached late 80's and nobody had heart or brain issues.
They all smoked and drank to boot.

Just because they pump hormones in your food doesn't mean all food of that type is bad.
Instead of investing in whole foods and overpriced seeds, visit a quality butcher once in your life. Or pick up a rifle.
There's not many feelings on par with preparing a meal you killed.

Robert Gomez
Robert Gomez

No they don't. Although I'm into lab grown meat.

Would gladly eat test tube patties rather than having prisons made for cows.

Carter Torres
Carter Torres

the same way cubans who smoke since their childhood love way late in their 90s doesn't mean "natural" tobacco is any good right?

Jacob Perez
Jacob Perez

Lol you are just like all the other vegan fucks. You don't know shit about me or my background.
I'm chinese and guess what, in China we don't give a fuck about your modern popular cult trends. "If it moves, it's food".
Close minded fucks like you live in some sort of bubble where only these 50 or so past years are relevant. I doubt vegan food will "beat" authentic food ever.
Everyone that disagrees with you vegans is somehow ignorant and stupid, that makes you ignorant yourself. Why not stop judging others?
I really feel that vegans have some identity crisis and have no purpose in life and thus resort to this shit lifestyle and they HAVE to shill it or always make it "their" unique thing. Fuck you lol eat some steak, you'll be happy

James Sanders
James Sanders

the secret to a long life is...
*drum roll*
the right genes.
all my past relatives lived well into their 80's
that's very decent for Americans born between 1920 and 1930(s)
the average life expectancy had been 60ish
and they ate the same fatty, salty, high cholesterol shit that's on the shelves today.

inb4 they would have lived to 100 via a vegan diet

I'm changing my diet from 50% meat to 30% and eventually 20% with mostly fish. Just because I want to. But it's not going to stop me from hitting up a Whataburger or going out with friends to devour a burrito.

OP is either mid-tier troll or insecure and chooses to validate opinion by subjective validation. Puritist, elitist cancer.

Gavin Gomez
Gavin Gomez

Food causing acne has been debunked several times.

Luke Cox
Luke Cox

claims hes from china
doent know the china study

just wow, enjoy your diabetes, rates are higher on your land than on burger land (#getrekt)

Gabriel Hughes
Gabriel Hughes

It's not good but I enjoy it.

Honestly, there's nothing like a smoke after a hearty meal.

I know it's killing me, but at least I reserve my judgement towards others.
I won't think less of you unless you start to attack my life choices because they don't conform to your subjective worldview.

I like meat, I like alcohol, I like tobbacco. They are my 'moments'; the little things.

If quinoa and kale is yours, more power to you, but don't forcefully shove those ideals down my throat and then detest me if I refuse to comply.

Jacob Diaz
Jacob Diaz

compares meat to tobacco
the risks of meat are LETHAL
If you get cancer from carcinogenic meat, you will DIE. If you get heart disease from meat, you will DIE. These two ways of dying are VERY common in the USA right now, and they have been proven to be caused by consumption of meat.

incoming anecdotal evidence
Yes, and my grandparents are almost 90 years old and they both smoke cigarettes, so cigarettes are optimal for longevity? No, because we can agree on that. Just because someone can dodge a bullet, doesn't mean that the bullet is worth being shot at you.

Risks associated with animal products take out thousands of people annually and you're telling me how you fuck up some innocent animals for fun

I can tell you why you're being logically inconsistent if you're not okay with treating humans in the same fashion.

James Jones
James Jones

Notice I said "partly". Mostly it's because it tastes good and I enjoy it.

And why the fuck is it any business of yours what other people eat? Are you THAT full of yourself that you think anyone will respond with anything other than mockery or contempt?

Isaac Edwards
Isaac Edwards

Why do you care so much?

Jose Taylor
Jose Taylor

I don't have diabetes, no chance that I will get it, I've never been sick before, my health is great and guess what. I'm not vegan.

But yeah, your post totally refutes all I said and your "I am too good for any of this" attitude totally solidifies your non existing argument that is vaguely described.

Keep jacking off your ego dick inside your vegan bubble.

Jonathan Jackson
Jonathan Jackson

Fatty foods and IGF-1 have all to do with sebum production

please explore some education at acne.org/diet.html

All of the scientific references and citations are there for you.

You can eat the blue pill if you want.

Connor Brown
Connor Brown

Eating animals is murder
I am a killer
You are not
Who really has the limp dick

Daniel Johnson
Daniel Johnson

This.

The problem is not being a vegan, but spitting shit out on those who have meat on their diets.

Keep up bro. Take care of your health instead of using this shit to believe yourself as superior to others.

Nicholas Williams
Nicholas Williams

are you ready for this?
.

THE INTERNET ISN'T VEGAN.
/thread

Jace Robinson
Jace Robinson

I know it's killing me, but at least I reserve my judgement towards others.
I won't think less of you unless you start to attack my life choices because they don't conform to your subjective worldview.

This.

Nathaniel Turner
Nathaniel Turner

Why is it any business of yours who I pay for animals to be raped, abused, and killed?
Are you THAT full of yourself that you think anyone will respond with anything other than mockery or contempt? It's not like the wellbeing of innocent sentient creatures is being decimated for my taste pleasure!

Yeah I'm full of myself when the guy in front of me is saying it's a personal choice of HIS that sentient creatures have a life of suffering

ahahahh what the hell

Liam Sanders
Liam Sanders

We share 98.8% with chimps according to the American museum of natural history. People should eat less meat but the argument in op fails hard.

Logan Lewis
Logan Lewis

Jesus Christ put a cork in it.

Nobody here rapes or tortures fucking animals, ejit.

Nathaniel Hill
Nathaniel Hill

but don't forcefully shove those ideals down my throat and then detest me if I refuse to comply.

This would be a great statement to make if the lives of innocent sentient beings weren't directly affected by your forcefully shoved ideals.

Levi Scott
Levi Scott

Oh look. Vegans. Thanks. More meat for me!

Asher Fisher
Asher Fisher

caring about what others do with their lives
Why.

Nolan Turner
Nolan Turner

also
phones cars fuel pencils pens ink paper tvs laptops desktops desks chairs buildings roads etc etc etc etc.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..the modern world basically, isn't fucking vaguen(sic)
...please discuss.

Nathaniel Anderson
Nathaniel Anderson

sentient

[citation needed]

Ayden Butler
Ayden Butler

When you pay slaughterhouses, butchers, or do it yourself, you are directly abusing animals.

It is similar to paying a hitman to kill someone. It is murder at your expense, and as such, you are responsible for such payments.

Parker Fisher
Parker Fisher

Protein from cooked meat helped humans develop the brain you're using to make this argument.

I have a couple veg friends. One of them has the shakes fucking constantly. The other vomits fucking constantly.

Luke Moore
Luke Moore

chimp eat meat tho

Sebastian Powell
Sebastian Powell

You're delusional. You're also over-promising. Just not true. Animal protein is essential for a healthy lifestyle.

Zachary White
Zachary White

they must have realised and just logged off.
moral dilemma and all that.

Kayden Reyes
Kayden Reyes

muh sentient creatures
Nature is cruel. Things eat things, alive in most cases. We humanely and painlessly put them down.
I need to eat just like everything else.

Lincoln Phillips
Lincoln Phillips

The first paragraph of the link you gave says the evidence is unclear.

Carson Sanders
Carson Sanders

sentient
source required

Christopher Flores
Christopher Flores

meat tastes good and its why my muscles are bigger than yours bitchboy

Caleb Martin
Caleb Martin

LOL KILL YOURSELVES
FAKE AND GAY
100 LIT FIRE
WOULD RAGE AGAIN
SWAG

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

Meat tastes nice. Eat my shit you wimpy malnourished cocksucker.

Alexander Morgan
Alexander Morgan

also halal slaughter is vegan, by ;vegan' standards.

Jack Baker
Jack Baker

It's not abuse, holy shit.

THINGS EAT THINGS IN HORRIBLE WAYS

At least we kill them first. Your pet cat probably tortured more animals than I will in my lifetime. Better feed it some quinoa.

Brayden Wood
Brayden Wood

but evidence is starting to trickle in

then you scroll down and take a look at the references and evidence provided.

Camden Hall
Camden Hall

Im going to eat a steak for breakfast lunch and have lobster for dinner tomorrow because of this post.

Christian Torres
Christian Torres

the second one you mentioned, sounds like they developed an eating disorder

Elijah Roberts
Elijah Roberts

i refer you to this

Blake Rivera
Blake Rivera

DELETE THIS THREAD JEWISH SWINE SEIG HEIL

Sebastian Miller
Sebastian Miller

Nature is cruel
with this argument we can justify rape, because nature is cruel

those muslim rapists in sweden? yeah those guys are fine! nature is cruel! They are doing it for pleasure and even procreation!

Angel Perez
Angel Perez

wasn't shitler a veggie?

Cooper Nelson
Cooper Nelson

abusing animals

We're not on dark age anymore. Modern technology ensure a painless death for them.

And it's not because vegetables aren't sentient that it's not killing. It's a lifeform as well.

Isaac Miller
Isaac Miller

Nice slippery slope, faggot.

Nature is cruel. Things eat and rape other things. That's a fact. Why would I make my life harder if I have the choice not to?

Luke James
Luke James

164 replies
OP finally succeeded at something.

Andrew Martinez
Andrew Martinez

It is not necessary to use animals for food, and as such, is not vegan.

Michael Watson
Michael Watson

with this argument we can justify rape, because nature is cruel

but in majority of human societies, rape is unnatural and cruel. pick a quality strawman at least.

those muslim rapists in sweden? yeah those guys are fine! nature is cruel! They are doing it for pleasure and even procreation!

they do it because.. tl;dr: their culture is shit and permits 'sexual emergencies'
you sort of validated my first point with that, but whatever.

Thomas Hughes
Thomas Hughes

You understand that plants feel, too?

You murderer.

Hunter Ward
Hunter Ward

Wasnt YOUR MOM A DRUGGIE
SEIG HEIL

Xavier Clark
Xavier Clark

not sure about this tbh
we have them 'stunned' cos slaughtermen have to do alot fast.
slice the throat properly and death is if not instant then very quick aaaand none of the stress hormones released in to the bloodstream of the animal when it is stunned, can taint the meat.
i eat meat obv

Joshua Cooper
Joshua Cooper

Every categorical summary restates that the evidence is not conclusive. Your own source doesn't support your argument.

Lucas Lee
Lucas Lee

Why do veggies have the need to police other people's eating habits?

Kayden Collins
Kayden Collins

[citation yet to be provided]

also will post proof of not samefag

William Garcia
William Garcia

veganism is a society created in england in 1944, you fucking spastic. use the non vegan internet once in a while, dullard.

Liam Kelly
Liam Kelly

plants are INTELLIGENT, much like artificial intelligence, they have reactants.

They do not have a subjective reality generator AKA a brain, so they are not SENTIENT.

Without sentience, a living creature is not of moral value consistent with humans. They cannot feel.

Luke Scott
Luke Scott

Implying that non human animals aren't sentient is borderline retarded.
I also eat meat.

Jeremiah Nguyen
Jeremiah Nguyen

2017
giving a single fuck about either you eat meat or grass
kek

Brayden Gray
Brayden Gray

Except they communicate with each other and have been proven to feel fear and danger.

Luke Butler
Luke Butler

this

Nicholas Harris
Nicholas Harris

Vitamin B12

Can only be created from meat and meat products. Even the expensive stuff created from bacteria is created from meat fed bacteria.

Humans cannot survive without meat or meat products. It's in our biology.

Stupid vegan.

Easton Allen
Easton Allen

You all would be more productive eyefucking your mothers or sisters right now.

Aaron Stewart
Aaron Stewart

Artificial intelligence can communicate with eachother and can emulate fear and danger.

Similarities can be replicated in a sprinkler outside.

It is a chemical reactant. They do not have a central nervous system, which it required to feel. I once argued the plant-pain thing, it was a kneejerk reaction indeed.

Carter Baker
Carter Baker

[citation needed]

Daniel Sanchez
Daniel Sanchez

I propose that we immediately begin killing and eating all vegans. You're as dumb as the animals we currently eat. You eat the same food as the animals we currently eat and you probably smell as bad as the animals we currently eat.

The benefits are 1)more yummy meat. 2) a possible small decrease in the consumption of animals and 3)no more having to listen to vegans pass and moan ad nauseum.

Seems like wins all around.

Lincoln Myers
Lincoln Myers

sitting at the internet and asks for a 'sauce'
just KYS

Austin Brown
Austin Brown

But it isn't artificial.

We are a chemical reactant too.

James Martinez
James Martinez

why do meattards pay for animal torture and murder when it is not necessary and even detrimental?

taste

Parker Roberts
Parker Roberts

Eat shit subhuman

Lincoln Adams
Lincoln Adams

It is necessary. Vitamin B12 is why. Do look it up. I'll wait.

You either get it from meat, or supplements derived from meat.

There is no other way.

Tyler Kelly
Tyler Kelly

Except that whole statement is incorrect and skewed to absurdity.

why do veggies feel the need to look down upon everyone? Morals

Easton Parker
Easton Parker

What's wrong? Your fruit farm not doing well faggot? Your neighbours cattle farm doing better than yours so you try to put him out of business with bullshit on the net? You're right in thinking the only way to compete with him is to take meat off the market though. I just don't understand why you fruits would kill and eat your own kind. Stop being a faggot faggot.

Connor Parker
Connor Parker

abuse
torture
unnecessary
detrimental
Wew lad. Did a steak stea lyour girl?

Charles Bennett
Charles Bennett

there is a double standard or real psychopathy

Evan Foster
Evan Foster

IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR

Juan Brown
Juan Brown

Why would I respect something that would eat me if I didn't eat it first?

John Cook
John Cook

Steak probably fucked his "girlfriend" up the ass and then made her pay for dinner with his money.

Carter Cruz
Carter Cruz

Vegans are into that.

Grayson Young
Grayson Young

The only meat veggies put in their mouths without protest or hesitation

Leo Barnes
Leo Barnes

lacks a shadow

Grayson Cox
Grayson Cox

ANIMALS ARE PEOPLE TOO YOU GUISE

Anthony Howard
Anthony Howard

abuse
animals are kept in prisons, cages or not, fed garbage half the time, kicked and beaten to be moved around when not complying even shocked

torture
they endure various forms of torture such as branding, beaks burned off, tails torn off, thrown into carriers, etc

unnecessary
It is not necessary to eat animal products to live a healthy and long life

detrimental
there are almost endless studies that show how various animal products are detrimental when it comes to risks of the top 5 killers in the USA.

IGF-1 growth hormone is found in dairy products, and accelerates tumor growth. This is just one example.

Jacob Young
Jacob Young

Without meat the human cannot survive, retarded faggots like you think they can get protein with other aliments, but you retarded fucks have forgotten that those aliments dont give you almot any protein, kill yourself Ophaggot

Eli Green
Eli Green

Sourdough bread and basically any other fermented food has more than sufficient levels of b12.

I like eating meat but come the fuck on, you simply do not need meat for b12. Wheat, water, and time. This will sustain human life.

Gabriel Campbell
Gabriel Campbell

self defense is justified, but going out of your way to hurt them is illogical, especially when they lack a moral compass, which is exclusive to us.

Michael Fisher
Michael Fisher

honestly OP, who tf actually cares? Eat what you fucking want to eat. Let people make their own fucking decisions. Fucking christ why is it so hard for you anons to understand this basic fucking idea.

Christopher Long
Christopher Long

If you don't care about money then you can always become vegan, but then don't cry that you are over 9000$ in debt because you spend most of your money on a fucking food

Austin Scott
Austin Scott

how else would you keep them at bay

how else would you identify their owner

hahahahaha

post one

Jace Price
Jace Price

When your unnecessary decisions impact the lives of innocent sentient creatures, that's when it is no longer something that can be swept under the rug.

It's not as simple as you think.

Caleb Brown
Caleb Brown

But it's not for the sole purpose of hurting them.
It's for food, which 99% of us eat. I honestly don't care about the specifics as long as it keeps me full.

Anthony Kelly
Anthony Kelly

OP baited the fuck out of this thread but...

This is the only person that speaks truth (i.e do whatever the fuck you want) and then immediately gets shit on. Nigga no one cares if you're a vegan or not, you aren't gonna change anyone's mind AND no one gives a shit about you or what you choose to shove down your throat. All you fuck faces are gonna die some day

Levi Ward
Levi Ward

That happens. We are a predator. Hornets invade beehives and murder most inhabitants.

Instead of harping on us, go protest in China or do something useful for a change.

Christopher Cruz
Christopher Cruz

It's unnecessary to hurt them for any purpose other than self defense.

which 99% of us eat.
an appeal to popularity is not a justification, we said similar things during the holocaust

Charles Cruz
Charles Cruz

Nope, those bacteria are producing either analogous vitamins that do nothing to supplement b12 or they are contaminated.

Don't try and come at me with that anecdotal shit.

Camden Bell
Camden Bell

I'm an anti semite so that argument really doesn't bother me.

Brandon Walker
Brandon Walker

How the fuck do you intend to feed people then?

John Taylor
John Taylor

We are a predator.
appeal to nature

do you smell the ass of another when you greet them? also, what does your nest look like?

Instead of harping on us, go protest in China or do something useful for a change.

Assuming I'm not already in China in my hotel room writing posts on this thread before tomorrow's protest

Why do you assume what I'm up to?

By the way, I argued for plant sentience on a forum and the same arguments that I'm using convinced me to where I am now. It's not a complete waste of time.

Carter Allen
Carter Allen

I'm an anti-semite
yeah you'd have to be ethically disabled, case dismissed.

Samuel Wood
Samuel Wood

the man speaking the truth is feeding me my blue pill!

All you fuck faces are gonna die some day
appeal to futility

Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

You are like the strawman master. I quit, you, win.
I'll still eat meat.

Dominic Gray
Dominic Gray

veganhealth.org/b12/plant

None produce it consistently. So it's either contamination or other factors.

Unlucky.

Michael King
Michael King

my mother cooks for me; the post

Joshua Green
Joshua Green

appeal to idiocy

Brandon Taylor
Brandon Taylor

heres how youre arguing
wrong
wrong
wrong
wrong
wrong
wrong
wrong
wrong
wrong
again, wrong
quit being a faggot
KEK YOURE SO FUCKING MAD AND WRONG
#WINNERWINNERLETTUCEDINNER

Wyatt Davis
Wyatt Davis

I'm over here eating my b12 supplemented vegan food and you're up and about appealing to nature like you don't live in the 21st century

Did you know that carnivores and omnivores are the only ones that cannot get ATHEROSCLEROSIS?

Ethan Taylor
Ethan Taylor

10/10 great rebuttal. your debate coach would be proud

Ryder Hill
Ryder Hill

I'm afraid OP is right.

The fact is, meat is poison. It has been linked to countless deaths and is the single largest killer in this country, with an estimated body count at least three times higher than tobacco use.

Moreover, there is, unfortunately a lot of non-meat products that are toxic. I am of course referring to saturated fats and sugars. These can do just as much damage if consumed regularly.

The worst part is that with pesticides and GMO, there is really no guarantee that what you're eating is safe.

There is a man that was found to have unique enzymes in his feces that could allow the average person to digest these compounds without becoming ill. You have to suck a log of shit from Andy Sixx's asshole. It's the first step toward maintaining digestive health.

William Miller
William Miller

man it must be upsetting to see someone so arrogant decimating someone else

Liam Moore
Liam Moore

You forgot.

appeal to nature
Appeal to torture
appeal to murder
Appeal to rape

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

I took lessons from you.

Carter Reyes
Carter Reyes

winner winner lettuce dinner

Top fucking kek

Adrian Hill
Adrian Hill

2017
not solar powered breatharian
Murderer

Jaxson Wilson
Jaxson Wilson

imagine writing such nonsense when you could be eating a delicious vegan burger with your QT3.14 GF

Daniel Long
Daniel Long

Remember that time a vegan didnt whine about the way other people treat themselves
neither do I

Brayden Powell
Brayden Powell

How many vegetas are there ITT anyways?

50 bucks on 1

Ryan Hernandez
Ryan Hernandez

corn
more cancer than not cancer
I thought we could trust you, corn

Henry Barnes
Henry Barnes

You just lost 50 bucks

Blake Hill
Blake Hill

things cause cancer so I'm gonna keep eating cancer risky foods! we're all gonna die some day, so let's likely die earlier!

Landon Long
Landon Long

how many vegetas

Eli Stewart
Eli Stewart

futility
Congrats you turned vegan. You saved 0 fucking animals in your life time and now what? Oh yeah you die. Just like every other fucker on the planet. That's the fucking truth you're just a bitch boy that's afraid to die.

blue pill
Nigga there ain't nothing wrong with someone choosing to eat whatever they want. Even cannibalism is seen in the wilderness with other animals.

finally
So even if you manage to make every human a vegan what now? Are you going to force wolves and lions to eat plants as well?

Christopher Harris
Christopher Harris

You know what else kills you and gives you cancer?

Hint: only STD with 100% mortality rate

Life

Henry Cook
Henry Cook

Because I love the suffering of tasty animals.

James Phillips
James Phillips

Nigga get the fuck out of here with that shit

Jason Sanchez
Jason Sanchez

How do you intend to feed majority of population if they're unwilling to commit to this change?
argument down

Parker Ward
Parker Ward

so the problem isn't meat or eating meat, its just the way humans process it. meat consumption doesnt need to be stopped, just the way animals are treated and the way products are processed

Gabriel Adams
Gabriel Adams

Are you fucking retarded? Our entire digestive tract has been optimized for eating prepared foods. The fact that we became smart enough to cut up and cook our food allowed evolution to cut down our digestive system and focus more on enhancing our brain power since we could get that much more nutrition in readily digestible forms.

If we hadn't improved the overall nutrition density of our food and had to rely on a food source similar to what cows and sheep ate we'd have never built up the excess calories necessary to make the extra calorie consumption of our brains worth it. Also, there is an almost universal correlation between animals with stereoscopic vision and the consumption of meat.

Ryder Morgan
Ryder Morgan

id start a farm animal abuse thread but all my webms are at home

Asher Kelly
Asher Kelly

OP is a weak mulatto lanklet.

Dominic Moore
Dominic Moore

You saved 0 fucking animals in your life time
I've also lead others to become vegan too. supply and demand, read up on it

So even if you manage to make every human a vegan what now?
we all eat healthier and less sentient creatures get fucked up, I'd rather my grandmother made it to this near dream state of humanity, and not have alzheimers from eating bacon and eggs every morning.

Anthony Sanchez
Anthony Sanchez

this dickhead argument
all your sources are wrong
all my toughts are right

isn't impartial, only will citate vegan-oriented (brainwashing) sites as sources
makes sure to shove on everyone's face how superior he is

Diagnose: narcisism and God complex.

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez

I could say the same thing back to you user, what makes a human a guilty sentient creature? If you want to argue that we enslave animals for food that can be found in many other animals as well, even ants. Ants enslave other workers of nests after invading, they drug sapsucking bugs like scale to pacify them, then they relocate them in mass to a plant where the bug then gorges itself on food under the ants protection, and when a sapsucking bug gorges itself on too much food it basically poops it out prematurely making honeydew, which the ants eat. The plant dies and the bugs become completely overnourished, sounds familiar to human characteristics right?

So to assume a human is guilty by existence is rather harsh. Vegans are not wholly innocent, plants show just as much intelligence, independence and sentience as any other animal, so to base your diet on them is actually racist.

As for diet, there is no natural ideal diet, humans are hunter/gatherer. So yes their diet is primarily fruits vegetables herbs nuts and occasionally meat. Meat was the sustaining factor in our species survival because it not only contributed to the ecosystem and overbreeding, it also helped the hunters develop larger muscles to hunt, and it gave us a more predatory view in the eyes of other animals, so there was less chance of us being hunted. A lioness doesn't hunt crocodiles except for rare situations.

Andrew Rogers
Andrew Rogers

You said sentient about 6000 times ITT. It lost its punch.

Faggot.

Humans are driven by conflict and violence. Your utopia will never happen.

Julian Carter
Julian Carter

In response to you acting like a enormous fuckwit, I'm going to switch to caged eggs only. I hope you're happy.

Isaac Reed
Isaac Reed

as a vegan, I'm all for labgrown meat, but the situation in place which is;

supply and demand of unnecessary animal product leads to animals getting abused, enslaved, and killed, which leads to consumption by humans, which leads to risks of the top 5 killers

This system in place is illogical and I'd rather it not exist at all, but lab grown meat seems ideal.

Evan Gomez
Evan Gomez

supply and demand, read up on it
and yet meat production has only increased and any that isnt bought isnt a problem, because it just gets frozen and repurposed.
alzheimers from eating bacon and eggs
I dont know what causes or doesnt cause alzheimers, dont tell me what does, but whats wrong with eating egg? Nothing even gets killed

Robert Hernandez
Robert Hernandez

Chickens aren't sentient. They're dumb as fuck. They drown themselves looking up at rain. They are literally worthless beyond human consumption.

David Bailey
David Bailey

This thread

sentient
innocent
torture
abuse
top 5 killers

Parrot OP at least come up with something original when you post

John Garcia
John Garcia

you forgot
cancer
wrong
unhealthy
Theres no use arguing with them, they cant hear us with their head shoved so far up their anus

Wyatt Davis
Wyatt Davis

cows
3rd biggest pollutant after humans and termites
pigs
Not far behind cows, albeit much more intelligent
sheep
Dumb as fuck
chicken
Even dumber
fish
Literally no feelings

I feel bad for pigs because honestly they taste like shit.

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

lol the whole system is illogical. we should all have free solar energy, but if energy were free we wouldnt be in the shackles of big oil and big money so yep. same with the meat industry too. on the torture though, yea, my grandpa once explained to me how when he was 12 he had a job at a cattle ranch, where one duty was to lop off the balls of bulls with basically an elastic band, so do with that information as you will

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall

You said sentient about 6000 times.

There are people in this very thread that have asked me for proof that animals are sentient. I have to stress this because it is the primary factor in why they deserve non-exploitation.

It's lost it's punch
I imagine if you understand that animals are sentient, there really isn't a punch in the first place LOL

Faggot.
wow you seem a little angry, is it the hormonal foods?

Humans are driven by conflict and violence.
Actually, I'd argue all sentient creatures are driven by a will to survive. This goes into philosophy.

Your utopia will never happen.
There will always be a necessary evil which is dying animals or dying people, it's understood in veganism. It's not about perfection, it's about abandoning the unnecessary as much as practically possible.

but nice appeal to futility

the same mindset was had during the times of slavery or those in the holocaust, but great moments of immorality have been conquered before, and maybe this can be the next step.

Jack Moore
Jack Moore

3rd biggest pollutant
because we breed them in such large numbers

what a dumb cunt

David Sanders
David Sanders

Stop saying appeal, it doesn't make you sound smart.

And I have 6 pets, all of whom are sentient and also eat meat.

Wyatt Nelson
Wyatt Nelson

and who the fuck cares about sentience. just because we are sentient doesn't make it a bad thing to eat meat, as long as the animals we get it from are treated humanely and naturally

Kevin Turner
Kevin Turner

Animals drowning in the rain is a wives tale, please fine me a reputable source of a bird drowning in the rain. I'm not with the vegans but you're just parroting idiocy. Chickens have part in an ecosystem where they are native, they are not worthless. You can also find many reputable sources proving chickens (along with all birds) are actually very smart, haven't you ever seen chickens doing maths?

David Rodriguez
David Rodriguez

Just because you and 8 of your nigger friends stop eating meat doesn't mean the market is going to fucking topple, no matter if you are eating the meat or not THEY ARE STILL DYING! The meat provided to you is already dead if anything you are making their already death go in vein due to your need to feel special. Fucking kill yourself you shit eating bitch.

Jack Perry
Jack Perry

Stop saying appeal, it doesn't make you sound smart.

Logical fallacies are quite large in number for anyone attempting to justify animal product consumption, it's important to point out just how many you can find. I'm not trying to sound smart, but people really need to understand what's wrong with their argument.

Ryan Davis
Ryan Davis

wow you seem a little angry, is it the hormonal foods?
dude, havent you been insulting everyone since the very fucking beginning of the thread though

Ryan Lopez
Ryan Lopez

please discuss

Then I might take your arguments seriously, otherwise your arguments are basically facebook tier parroting of information.

Grayson Hernandez
Grayson Hernandez

girlfriend just came home
hooked up the deepfryer
made her some tyson nuggies after her hard day
she loves them
loves me
brb guys gonna go bang my hot meat eating girlfriend in the shower. Ill restock on tyson brand nuggies in the morning.

Aiden Campbell
Aiden Campbell

This.

How do you intend on converting people when all you do is berate them for clashing with your belief system.

Veganism is literally Islam

Sebastian Allen
Sebastian Allen

Veggie kebab pls go

Chase Allen
Chase Allen

we all eat healthier and less sentient creatures get fucked up

Yeah, and the world becomes overpopulated with previously managed animals then we all become sick from lack of protein since some people can't afford supplements for your dumbass way of life. Humans are omnivores there is NOTHING you can do about this you stupid cunt.

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

dude whats your best argument, our fucking teeth? have you not seen a fucking snake eat a whole man before, get with the program

Aiden Sullivan
Aiden Sullivan

There was one guy that ate glass and metal.

Christian Ramirez
Christian Ramirez

That's racist against vegan snakes
#notallsnakeskill

Asher Russell
Asher Russell

OP's neck tattoo and oversized earrings are showing.

Asher Green
Asher Green

id eat a snake eating a man whole

Leo Ortiz
Leo Ortiz

He tore you a new one.

Bentley Hall
Bentley Hall

I don't know who you're trying to insult here, the vegan or the only rational person in this thread.

Colton Davis
Colton Davis

50 bucks OP's a legit faggot.

Ryder Sullivan
Ryder Sullivan

That's funny because whoever is hacking me can get up to six years old n prison

Aaron Martinez
Aaron Martinez

OP's posts
My posts

I don't believe OP is posting shortly after that last listed post above, I'm sure he had a short bout of anger he wanted to unleash upon you meattards, but I'm a bit more reasonable

Elijah Miller
Elijah Miller

I like getting up six year olds.

Owen Morales
Owen Morales

Double the bet, I think he's "open to all, personality is all that matters".

Jace Mitchell
Jace Mitchell

/thread

Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

50 bucks were just being mega baited by some guy who has nothing better to do other than start fire on Sup Forums at 4:19 am

Evan Thompson
Evan Thompson

reasonable
meattards
Into the trash it goes.

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