Can we talk about Adam Johnson for a second...

Can we talk about Adam Johnson for a second? This is probably the only place on the internet where we can talk this without being virtue signalling fags.

Lets get the facts straight
>It's not pedophilia. It's not even hebephilia(attraction to girls aged 11-14). The girl was 15. 15 is legal in much of Europe. A year later and it's legal in most of the western world.

>He's not a "predator". He's a dumb possibly slightly mentally-handicapped chav. He didn't pray on the girl or take advantage of her. She was a fan and and like most teenage girls they want to fuck their idols. He's just not a very bright lad.

>They didn't even fuck. He kissed her and likely fingered her.

>The 15 year old girl could probably not care less that this happened to her. Doesn't sound like a very traumatic experience to me. About as traumatic as a male student fucking his hot teacher.

What did this results in?

6 years of imprisonment. 6 YEARS of hard prison time. Worse is the lifetime of public condemnation and humiliation equal to that of actual pedophiles who fuck 5 year olds.

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>It's not pedophilia. It's not even hebephilia(attraction to girls aged 11-14)
lol nonce

It's unfair.
I've discussed this with some friends and they all called me an idiot.
>hurr durr there has to be a line!!!
Yeah, there is one. But 6 years is too fucking much.

I guess they were just trying to make an example out of him or something, but it's not fair.

he deserves death for being a white male

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The media and social media reaction was fucked. Full of jokes and condemnation. No one had the balls to be a voice of reason. Which is fair enough because it's your social life and career that you are sacrificing to defend some random footballer.

>be professional footballer
>be rich
>be white
>could have pick of litter every night
>choose underage slag
>can't even get in

Deserves six years in jail tbqh familia.

he was a meh player anyway, no end product and always hit it too early

apologize!

underrated

I'm still his biggest fan, he did NOTHING wrong, but people in the UK really hate men who find hot teens attractive. They say that Adam Johnson is worse than Adolf Hitler

I'm wearing his shirt with pride, I still have his pic as my screensaver on my iphone

15 year olds KNOW what they're doing, consensual sex (or kissing in this fucking case) does not harm them in any way. 15 year olds in Germany can drive scooters through the city, they have to write applications for appranticeships, some months later when they're 16 they can ruin their whole lifes by drinking as much alcohol as they want but a 15 year old (and 11 months) doesn't know what she is doing? FUCK OFF

billions of people should be behind him, his whole life is ruined while that slut is out on the piss with her mates laughing about the whole thing, probably licking each others assholes

The worst thing is that the girl actually played the victim even though she clearly wanted it too.
Women are the worst, fuck.

he was aware of the law and severity of his crime. i have no sympathy for him, risking his life and career over some light fondling. an absolute moron.

I think they're just makin an example of him to rich pedophiles that being said he clearly knew what he was doing was illegal, so yea he's a dumbfuck but he did deserve some sort of punishment

That's not the problem, the problem is him receiving 6 YEARS while even some murderers get away with less.

It's unjust.

>It's unjust.
more like JUST.

Get fucked Puritan shitstain.

I agree with both of these positions. Yes, I think 15 year olds are mature enough to have consensual sex with an adult, but there's got to be a line as well. Someone could argue the same for 14 year olds turning 15, then just-turned-14 year olds, etc. She's mature enough to make the decision to kiss him, I guess, but he should more than know better enough to reciprocate that. He knew it was wrong and did it anyways, and that's what happens when you break the law sometimes.

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RAPE has to be punished, yes. but not if it was consensual, not if no one has been harmed

I've discussed this topic with at least 20 people and those who are really close to me and have known me for many years agree with me because they trust me. but other friends from uni or so who I have known for some months just laugh a bit and just say "...I don't know man.. it's the law". It's like they don't have an opinion and are afraid and ashamed to say what they really think. and we all know that 15 year old sluts know exactly what the fuck they're doing.

some of my friends came back to me months later and said that they agree with me and that it's complete bullshit

Fuck off abo fucker

Fuck off anus for a flag.

He didn't concretely. His google logs show that he googled the age of consent after the indecent. He's a dumb chav manchild who does nothing but play footy.

Besides that's the issue. The issue is the absolutist interpretation of the law and public outrage culture influencing the sentencing.

Another issue is that women seem to have a biological need to accuse males of rape for attention

read Yes, he deserved a punishment for sure. But not one that harsh.

>typo correction
Besides that's not the issue*

Let's see how forgiving you are when it's your daughter.

Rolf and Johnson behind bars.

Elite pedo rings everywhere are shook

Do you know from experience with your wifes daughter?

What is he, like, 30? You can't be doing that kind of stuff. They had to make an example of him because of his position in society. They were especially severe because of his status. I'm sure if it was someone else they'd consider some leniency, but there are situations where they don't and they had to do that here because you can't grant someone leniency because they play soccer.

If you read the texts you can see he is pressuring her, a sort of "what will you do for me" situation. That's why the sentence was so harsh. I'll argue as much as anyone that the AoC should probably be lowered but law was applied correctly as was the punishment.

heard this "that's the law" argument at least 10 times from friends. it's also illegal to ride your bike on the wrong sidewalk, do you wanna tell me I should still be fined 30€ even though it's 2pm, everyone could see me and it's completely bright? no, it's bullshit man, because no one got harmed and there wasn't even a risk. breaking the law sometimes doesn't harm anyone.

t. Pedo
First scat porn now cp yisus christ german calm the fuck down

>six years

kek, a few of these fine lads got only five.

You can make this argument against almost any law. I understand your position and agree with it to an extent but the electorate has to respect the law of the land. If it really is unjust it has the ability to ratify said laws. Sometimes dumb fucks do ride their bikes the wrong way and could cause someone to get hurt by, say, running into another biker who's going to fast to stop.

>they had to make an example of him
No, they didn't.
If Callum Skinner, the local pub dweller did the same thing he would've walked away with a softer punishment. It's not fair to give certain people a hasher punishment.

It's discimination.

and you're still not explaining anything, you're just writing that he's 30, that's it.

WHY can't he do that stuff? both are horny, she wants him (and she knows what she is doing, funny that you think that it's no problem if she kisses and maybe fucks a 16 year old 24/7), he wants her, no one gets harmed if it happens, it's not rape - it's consensual.

why is it not ok? and "the law says so" is not an explanation. or do you really wanna tell me that she'll commit suicide if she fucks a footballer?

tbqh, everyone who does that stuff gets punished very hard in the UK, judges and the jurisdiction in the UK are completely fucked up

>implying he'll serve more than 2 years in prison

lol

Some people you have to be lenient with and others not. Someone else doing this, sure, you can give him a lighter sentence because he's dumb. This guy really should've known this was not ok, and should have been more stringent than the average Joe because of his status. He should've known this would be more likely to come to light because he plays football and that he had an easier time taking advantage because he plays football and he acted anyway. You're arguing he should be treated just like that average Joe, but he shouldn't because he's not. The courts got it right here, but if you disagree go get some signatures on a petition and send it to who the fuck ever.

I'll just say I'm not opposed to fucking a hot 15 year old, but if I get caught doing it I really wouldn't have a defense because I know it's illegal.

>why is it not ok?
there needs to be an exact age of consent, you of course agree with this. in britian it happens to be 15.

Evidence shows that complete consent wasn't really established. He's at least attempting to coerce her in the texts and given his status and the situation you have reason to believe she didn't give full consent.

Anyway, the issue with age of consent laws is that you are drawing an arbitrary line. I personally believe it should be lower in the UK, but until we accomplish that the law has to be applied as is.

It's 16 but your point remains. If these people agree that there should be some form of age of consent laws then they undo their own arguments. It's arbitrary at any age above 13.

>lower than 16
For what purpose

At a certain age it's not ok for adults to fuck minors. Why isn't it ok for an adult to fuck an 11 year old if it's consensual? Why not a 10 year old? Why not 14? Why not 13? Because before a certain age a person doesn't have the faculties to turn down that kind of proposition. You start being sexual when you begin puberty and that can be as early as 9 for some kids.

At a certain point it becomes one person imposing their will on another which is wrong and that is a tenant of any society that's not backwards i.e. some of these fucked up countries where they don't even have laws like these. England decided you can fuck someone at 16, but not 15. That's what people agreed on. Other countries it's higher and others it's lower. Everyone agrees at a certain age it's not consensual anymore, but not everyone agrees on what age that is because there everyone is different.

Wahhh there's a law that was broken and the law breaker got punished.

Let me check the flag
>Australia
ahhhhhhh ok

It's lower than 16 across most of the continent and they generally have lower teen pregnancy rates, lower teen std rates.

We accept that 14 and 15 year olds are having sex with each other, but the AoC lows create a stigma that stops them from seeking advice and help with sex which(coupled with poor sex ed) leads to a lack of knowledge of the dangers associated with it and no idea how to practice safe sex. Lowering it removes the stigma and allows us to tackle these issues in a more effective way.

>taking advantage
a 17/18 year old guy who is 6ft4, goes to the gym and has the body of a fitness model has an advantage, too, and the 15 year old pussy also gets wet. should the 17 year old guy also get 6 years? NO, that's what women and girls like, successful guys, it's BULLSHIT

i do think that the law should be more dynamic, because each case could be different. one case (18 boy 15 girlfriend in relationship) could be a lot different from another case (30 famous man allegedly using status to groom 15 girl). some states in us and perhaps elsewhere have these romeo and juliet laws that should be used.

Who says he's not dumb either? Just because he's a "famous" football player doesn't mean he's intelligent.
The funniest thing is; if this happened in Denmark or France it wouldn't even be a crime.

...them logic skills
You clear aren't in a STEM field like myself.

Because she has long since finished puberty unlike a FUCKING 10 YEAR OLD. 15 years old is was adulthood girls for most of human evolution and history.

No he doesn't. The law is blind to race, height, body fat %, etc. The person who is older has, and is taking, advantage.

>implying an 18 year old cant groom and use a 15 year old
I remember so many girls around 15 years old had 18+ boyfriends when I was in school purely because they had a car and some spending money to do shit that boys their age couldn't do

>american saying the law is blind to race
lmfao

This.
Every slag had a 18+ boyfriend

I didn't say he wasn't but because of his status he has been coached to know better and he also knows that women are easier for him, especially younger ones. If he doesn't well then tough shit he'll probably figure that one out now

>15 years old is was adulthood girls
Why don't you think before you type? Nobody is dumb enough to say that that wasn't an age in history where girls were basically adults, but laws adjust to the times, and times are different now. Slaves used to be legal too but no one is making the argument they should still be around because they used to be.

>implying an 18 year old cant groom and use a 15 year old
where did i imply that?

fucking this

the things a 15 year in my country has to decide are decisions that affect their whole future, most of them work over 20 hours a week, some of them drive their scooters through the city and at least 75-80% of the 15 year olds I knew back then and that I know now fuck older guys all the fucking time. fucking hell, I had to decide if I wanted to do my A levels or if an apprenticeship would be better for me, this decision can fuck up you whole life (and it did in my case)

It is, numb nuts, it's the prejudice fucks who make it not a la >you

I'm gonna get my day started have fun you pedos

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>18 and 15 in a relationship could be different to 30 and 15

>claiming im prejudice for no reason
Way to jump the gun

You're the last person who's allowed to shittalk him, the age of consent is 14 in Italy.

answer my question instead of random greentext.

HAHAHAHA that reminds me of recent threads on Sup Forums with screencaps of Indians hitting on women on social media. My god they are on another level of autism.

Literally quoted your post you cunt

and it was irrelevant to my question. where did i imply an 18 year old cant groom and use a 15 year old? my two examples were just that, two of many examples of different relationships.
>could be different

>yfw he didn't even get to plow that teenage pussy

JUST

>They had to make an example of him because of his position in society.
What the goddamn hell is this logic?

>he should serve anything.

So, did she ever have an evalution by a psychologist (or whoever does these things) to determine how much of an adult she already is and how reasonable and rational her decision-making is?
Because that is the determining factor - or should be - for punishment.

>newcastle got relegated
>she got pregnant

rip my serbian friend

You don't become a good ball kicker without earning the public's trust first.

Italian girls have full bush at 7

Punishing people harder - or differently -, just because they are public figures goes against the very idea of justice.

Incidentally, that's why the Reus case a while ago was a farce.

>Because that is the determining factor for punishment.
no, it's her age which is the main determining factor.

Her age only sets the rules for within which range the punishment can be.
It it nails it down at 6 years, then that's the punishment he had to get - but in that case, that law might need some review.

Agreed. It's just part of the tough on pedo charade in the UK to appease the plebs whilst the kike elite buy, sell and child sex slaves at will.

Who let the cucks from r/soccer in here?

>Her age only sets the rules for within which range the punishment can be.
>only
>Her age is only the determining factor

Stop getting worked up about the word "determining" wehen you know exactly what I mean, Lars.

These
He did nothing wrong

I will always love you and always support you Adam

I tend to take words literally. What else could you mean than determining? Her age is obviously the main and in some cases the only determine factor.

Smashed a 15 yr old when 21, she consented, her family even invited me to hers when 16, but I would never do it again, the stick you get for being muhhh pedoo from friends etc is bad, I know 19 and 35 year old women and they are equally as irresponsible as each other, but there is way too much hysteria from the daily mail, and it just makes women into ladettes when 18 because they seek attention... it happens in France and Spain but at a lower level.

When I say determining I mean the exact punishment.
And the law usually doesn't dictate an exact punishment, it offers some leniency in either direction (minimum/maximum punishment).

Plus, you can bang hot 14 year olds

>people in this thread wanting to have sex with 14-16 year old girls

I assume your only experience of 14 year old girls is observing them from a far. They are absolutely cancerous cunts, quite honestly I think I'd fuck a 60 year old before a 14 year old.

The Italian has it figured out.
Just make sure it's dark and you're good.

>I assume your only experience of...girls is observing them from a far.

lol, have you ever talked to a 18 year old? 15 and 18 - no difference, both are completely retarded

Why are you THIS passionate about him? Are you even a Sunderland fan?

He's a pedo you idiot

>I still have his pic as my screensaver on my iphone
this made me kek more than anything I've read on Sup Forums in quite some time. Thank you

>probably licking each others assholes
also was very good

no problem my friend, and I wasn't even lying
why should I be a Sunderland fan? I care about someone whose life is ruined because of nothing, that's all.

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the sentence isn't just about punishing the criminal involved, it's about discouraging others... something which can only occur with a celebrity.

same deal with the To Catch a Predator men being thrown on the ground by about 10 policemen with guns and shit, for flirting with a 19 year old decoy.

it's to stop people from trying that shit. footballers are like teachers. they have positions of power over young people.

O I agree, even up to about to mid 20's they can be completely retarded. But from 19-21 they are in a sweet spot sexually so you can ignore what comes out of their mouthes.

I fucked 2 insanely hot and sexually active 15 year olds when I was about 21.
I don't think it's an issue at all.
But the law's the law ennit... doesn't matter if it's stupid and doesn't make much sense.

respect man, I'm 21 now and if I don't fuck some teens in the next year I'll kill myself

but it DOES matter, if no one does anything against it, people will get a life sentence in 10 years for kissing teens

There was absolutely no harm done to the girl. What would there be to be mad about?
As a father you will never be happy about the prospect (and reality) of your daughter becoming sexually intimate with a person. Being with a rich football player would probably make you as comfortable with this as you could ever be.