Liberal Democrat here. Lately I've been having trouble countering accusations that there is no evidence that Trump is a Russian agent or that the elections were rigged/hacked. My last arguement was with my sister while her friends were over. She asked me what source I got my info from and after I said CNN my sister accused me of being brainwashed. She said CNN is controlled by the DNC and that it was on WikiLeaks. How do I handle this?
Liberal Democrat here
Did you reinforce the credibility your sources by citing the Wall Street Journal?
Mate, you're going at it all wrong:
NEVER try to give evidence to support an accusation against a non-leftist with evidence, facts, or a reasoned argument, because what you'll find is that their responses will ALWAYS be more convincing, and they'll almost inevitably be better informed than you.
You can't let those racists make you and your beliefs look stupid, so you must NEVER allow them to engage you in a debate on anything which goes further than vague ideas and emotions - they'll pin you down, otherwise.
No, if a fascist, Nazi, white supremacist, Trump Supporter, or whatever asks you for evidence or calls you out for blindly parroting those wonderful, infallible people over at CNN, you've just got to do one thing to win every single argument:
Call them a racist/sexist/islamophobe (combine for best effect), and keep screaming it until they give in.
Alinsky be praised.
convince them by blowing your brain all over them with a shotgun, trust me, it works
Why would you even attempt to argue with republicans? They're the party that openly and fragrantly denies science/evidence in favor of what makes them 'feel good'. You can't argue with irrational assholes, so don't try. Also, you'll often just make them believe their own nonsense more fervently; lookup the backfire effect.
I take it pic is unrelated?
You know it, darling
Dude just do what Trump does. Say you have tonnes of evidence to back up your argument you just aren't showing her.
She can't contradict evidence she's never seen can she?
Then, if you want to go the full Trump, you wait a little while for them to deny the story and denounce all the evidence as imaginary, before actually releasing the evidence and making them look like idiots.
As a Liberal Socialist I agree with your sister. There is no hard evidence thst Russia had any involvement.
The report that supposedly shows proof is just a speculation as to how a Russian actor might have pulled off the phishing attempt to the DNC. There was no hard evidence convincing me as a cyber security professional and ethical hacker that Russia for sure was behind it.
It was a very amateur phishing attempt that I could have pulled off from my home. Rent a couple Russian VPNs with Bitcoin and carry out from there, nobody would have any clue it was me.
If I get dubs then OP is a faggot
If Dubs OP is a faggot, even if not dubs OP is still a faggot.
CNN is fake news. All MSM is controlled media. I find it funny you leftists support socialism while calling Trump a Russian agent. Left wing conspiracy theories are fucking retarded.
Winrar, OP is faggot, confirmed with dubs
This isnt a Right vs Left thing. There is a war going on in our government between Globalists and Anti Globalists.
Deep State and intelligence agencies are arms of 40 years of globalist policies so they are actively working to discredit the first Anti Globalist president we have had since Carter.
Dont believe anything you see. The CIA has a long history of lying to the public to further their agenda.
Left wing conspiracy theories are fucking retarded.
Like the right wing conspiracies have any merit
Words too many
But I thought conspiracy theories were retarded
Protip: Wikileaks is fabricated information masquerading as legit, used to keep us at one another's throats
You're not a liberal dem, those people cannot have intelligent and diverse conversations/ arguments..
No ameritards can
Globalist vs Anti Globalist isn't conspiracy theory, it's conspiracy fact
Wikileaks - 10k documents, 0 successful attempts to delegitimize any documents.
CIA - Hundreds of examples over 60 years of lying to the public and witholding information.
Wikileaks is totally unreliable as a source of info guys...
Sort of like how liberals deny the science behind genders because it ankes them feel good to be so accepting of trannies
tfw too intelligent to think outside of bipartisan lines
All conspiracy theories are retarded, retard.
Are you a teenager? Don't worry. You'll be a Democrat until you grow up and realize what a pussy you are.
still thinking there are liberals and conservatives
First off, quoting from CNN isn't bad because 'fake news\thread', its bad because CNN gets its news from other sources. You should always be citing studies where there preformed, not from a friend who heard it from a friend.
Second, the merits of trying to convince someone of something should always be weighed at the cost of you learning new things yourself. A debate worth having is one with two people learning, debating your sister who is factually wrong about something doesn't help you in any way.
the science behind genders
What are you using as your source for that?
Unless he was trying to inform his sister.
How does having a more informed sister help him
Don't provide evidence. Ask then to provide evidence that there is proof
You handle this by picking an argument against Trump that makes sense. There are so many that you can use, and you pick "wah wah, Russia"?
He ain't a Russian agent. He's a dumbass with financial ties across the globe that give him ulterior motives. Russia is just one of those places.
Yea dont attempt to argue with republicdorks, they will draw you into this complicated conversation about confusing stuff that makes you look wrong.
You have to be crazy like them to win, that means yelling, block traffic, throw things whatever you can to oppose them and their evil. Stupid old white people anyway they never accomplished anything without us
Considering OP is dead wrog I'd say he has plenty to learn.
I'd say his sister has nothing to gain from the exchange.
Unless you have a security clearance, you're not going to have any evidence, not until if and when it becomes public. You can either trust the reports that there is evidence or not.
But theres a shit ton of smoke and deception around this whole trump russia thing you can point to.
You can also point to the fact that Trumo foreign policy so far has been crazy...
totally insulting key allies and trading partners, seemingly purposely- UK China Mexico Australia Germany
undermine western institutions/coalitions NATO EU UN
nice to only russia and israel
Couldnt do anything more pro-Putin while keeping a straight face
Just vote how you want when the time comes and stfu about politics. You fucking activists and your obsession with being up people's asses about bullshit they have no control over.