Can someone explain to me why they believe racism is wrong...

Can someone explain to me why they believe racism is wrong? I don't wanna hear the "don't judge a man by his skin color" bullshit because there's more to race than skin color. Just take a look at this graph. It's undeniable.

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dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/3226952/Sampson_RacialEthnicDisparities.pdf?sequence=2
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isteve.blogspot.com/2013/12/overall-pisa-rankings-include-america.html
scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/testing_for_racial_differences_in_the_mental_ability_of_young_children.pdf
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Racism is wrong if you hurt other people.

Yes but racism isn't all violent. I can hate niggers in peace, too

>Just look at this graph
>1980-1990

mfw

You trying to tell me that if there was more to race than skin color 20 years ago that it's different now?

>implying IQ destribution changed within 30 years

Racism isn't wrong. Everyone has prejudice about people based on skin color, it's just human nature. Statistics often justify it. Acting on racism in a way that targets/harms other people is what's wrong.

There's one small problem with your graph - it's fake

No. Thats facts. Facts arnt racist. The're true. Big difference. If i said your stupid BECAUSE your black. That would be racist. If i said "this graph shows that the majority of blacks have lower iq than whites" its not racist. Im just saying what the graph says. Dont be a faggoid, racisim doesent exist as much anymore. Plus what are you going to do about it anyways...

facts based on fake graphs aren't facts

I'm not making any sort of argument because I don't have time to get into this debate right now. However, what I am saying is that if your going to argue something with 'evidence', at least use a source that isn't 30 years old you spastic

Lower education in poverty stricken communities.
Why are they poor?
Because of assholes like OP who look down on people as though they are inferior refuse to give them a chance in the workforce and because their education system failed them.
Look at resists from global studies, i.e. black populations in Europe.

My point isn't the exact numbers on the graph. My point is that there is more to race than skin color, which is portrayed perfectly by the graph, despite how old it is

Look at the tested IQs of white people in poor communities. They test lower too. Hmm. Wonder if there's a correlation.

Yes, if you overisimplify the issue by a fuckton. Or are you saying that crime is caused by skin colour?

>education
>IQ
There is a difference between knowledge and intelligence.

How can it be fake, when the academic score correspond on the IQ score?

See this is the problem with blind statistics. You can go ahead and say blacks have a lower IQ. But you can't extrapolate form that and say they are inferior, unless you come up with a reason for their lower IQ. You're just throwing up circular logic, saying their IQ is lower because they are inferior.

Thank you. And I also believe it's not wrong to make assumptions based on statistics. Of course not all black people are stupid just like not all Asians are Chinese, but since there is a much larger population of Chinese people than any other Asian country, it's safe to assume that the average Asian you meet will be Chinese.

>refuse to give them a chance in the workforce
There are laws like affirmative action policy.

And the same bullshit... You don't care to look at the reason why these scores are lower. You really think it's some kind of genetic shit? Then you're retarded.

This argument is equivalent to giving an American and a Chinese person an English test and then being like "Well Chinese are fucking horrible at English."

If you're curious as to why blacks have lower IQ's it's because of genetics just like skin color. Like I said, there is more to race than skin color.

If you have a better explanation to why blacks have lower IQ's other than genetics I would love to hear it.

Whites attending dumbfuck community college are dumber than those attending Stanford therefore Palo Alto is a magic place that makes you smart.

Correlation /= causation

>You really think it's some kind of genetic shit
Explain to me why does brown illegals that can't speak English when they cross the border illegally do better academically in school than blacks who are born in America?

No but while we're at it, crimes committed by blacks is higher than the ones committed by whites. Yes there are white criminals and yes there are innocent blacks. Just like yes there are stupid white peoples and yes there are smart black people, but it all comes down to statistics and making assumptions based off of them

More made up bullshit.
IQ and SAT outcomes are poorly .
SAT and academic success are poorly correlated.
AP and SAT are good money making schemes however.

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>it's just human nature
Not going to comment on your conclusion but that argument is utter shit.
Rape, freebleeding, torture, murder, etc...is all human nature too.

Ignorance is bliss!

Is this yet another coincidence to those who believe race is nothing more than skin color?

So we got a correlation, but that's about it.
Show me the studies showing the cause of these racial discrepancies and you might have something that at least resembles an argument.
Obviously it would still only be about data and scientific conclusions, your feelings about how to act on this data still wouldn't be rationally defended without some propper personal input.

There is a correlation between crime and skin color.

I'm just going to leave this here:

sites.biology.duke.edu/rausher/lec23_05.html

sites.biology.duke.edu/rausher/Kamin.pdf

My best guess is that genetics have to have some influence just like with skin color, but if you have a better explanation then tell me

I also hate niggers and think they are stupid.

But this graphic looks idiot. Are you comparing asians in general white american whites or european whites?

Are you comparing them with niggers and latinos from USA or from Africa and South America? Or are you considering mexicans only? Even this way, obivously minorities in your country with poor access are going to have worse numbers. Comparing niggers and latinos IN YOUR country with the majority is stupid.

If shoot you before the nigger.. then I'd shoot the nigger.. two less pieces of shit on this earth

Ivy league geneticist here: race is a man made concept with social economical consequences. Intelligence has little to do with "race" and there is great variation even within families, example: Einstein had very average children

It's their shitty culture. They don't value knowledge, so they aren't very knowledgeable. IQ is effected by one's environment as well as genetics.

Tl;dr your graph a shit

I think I'd rather trust graphs and actual statistics rather than a random Sup Forums user saying "Ivy League retard here bla bla bla race has nothing to do with IQ" because I know there is some truth behind statistics but it's really easy to claim to be anyone on Sup Forums, where you're anonymous

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The problem with these statistical distributions is that people don't think in averages. The statistics says that Blacks and women are less intelligent on average. but the smartest people they know might be outliers who are Black women. The worlds smartest person could be a Black single mother in Africa. Despite Asians being the smartest group on average.

Well... Poor people are going to be more stupid. It's obvious. They have less access and their children will have less access too.

Look at countries with majority of niggers. White people are going to be more wealthy and smart. Brazil is like 47% whites, mestizos 43% (of which at least 70% are niggers who won't admit they are niggers) 7,50% niggers (remember last statistic? 32,9%+7,50% so 40% niggers in reality) and the rest is asians and europeans. Which ones would you guess that hold more violent crimes? Who are more stupid. Obviously niggers, who are almost half of the country.

>poor lower class people are more likely to be violent because they're desperate/disillusioned
>blacks are disproportionately poor because of institutional and historic racism

Come on, I'm just pretending to be an SJW here, you'll have to find more refined arguments than that if you want to beat their narrative.

I've already said this but yeah there are really stupid white people and really smart black people, but making assumptions based off of statistics is normal. You can assume that the average white person is smarter than the average black person because of statistics

Quick google search and a quick read-through of the conclusions gave this:
> In agreement with the relative deprivation thesis, both the overall violent crime rate and the Black-on-Black crime rate were predicted by the measure of economic inequality (income inequality) generally employed in prior studies
egov.ufsc.br/portal/sites/default/files/anexos/33027-41458-1-PB.pdf


>Controlling for crime type and prior record, black defendants in some jurisdictions are more likely to receive a prison sentence than are white defendants
dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/3226952/Sampson_RacialEthnicDisparities.pdf?sequence=2
These studies, done by people much more informed on the issue than us suggest racism is to blame in a tldr answer.

Didn't find anything directly relating to IQ right away, these threads doesn't last long enough for that, but meme statistics showing a correlation shouldn't be anyones source for belief. At least if they want to be a rational human being that bases themselves on science.

So your Jewish professor claims. They want white countries and genes destroyed by mud races damnit! Bring it down. BRING IT ALL DOWN!!!

What about the SAT score differences among the races? The niggers who take the SAT's have had an education because it's not like they're gonna go to Africa and give the niggers there the SAT's

thats because the richer white kids are paying those Kaplan courses try being a poor black kid asking dad for 2k to pratice for a math and reading exam

Well, I guess people want everyone to realize that that's not a consequence of their genetics, but a consequence of their environment. Black people have shittier living conditions and get less education. They aren't challenged intellectually nearly as much as whites. Hispanics average at 90 IQ and asians at 106 IQ. Actually, there is a direct exponential correlation between GDP of a country and IQ:

youtube.com/watch?v=8u0Lmp_jHw8

Interestingly, China is undeservingly poor for how smart it is because it's communist and the middle east is undeservingly rich for how stupid it is because they're sitting on oil (got that from the video)

Great job getting your graph from national vanguard.

psh last time i took that exam the highest you could get was a 1600, the new generation needs inflation here too? bunch of losers

>Unlabeled Y axis
Nigga who you tryin' to kid?

Haha,
Shh don't tell them they're just taking b8

Thats the whole point. You dont need to hate anyone for being different, you should hate them if they wrong you or someone you care about. Being systematic about it is the dick move, not the hate, because now you reduce a person do your own expectations of that person based on skin color. And while you wont be wrong everytime, you will be wrong atleast sometimes.

The international test PISA shows that White Americans has similar score as Europeans, asian Americans has similar score as East Asians.
isteve.blogspot.com/2013/12/overall-pisa-rankings-include-america.html

He's got a chart, boys, it all checks out.

The National Longitudinal Survey of Labor Market Experience of Youth is a well-known and unimpeachable source.

Rich black kids does not do better academically than poor white kids.

Well why do these retarded niggers get addicted to crack and shit out 8 kids with 8 different fathers to begin with? Because they're retarded. A reasonably intelligent negro who can sprak english properly will have an easier time in getting a job in america than a white person of similar intelligence because of affirmative action. Sick of their excuses. White ethnostate now!!!!

scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/testing_for_racial_differences_in_the_mental_ability_of_young_children.pdf

"The debate over racial differences in in
telligence is among the most divisive in
the social sciences. Utilizing a newly available, nationally representative data set with
measures of mental function among children before their first birthday, we find little
evidence of systematic racial differences in the first year of life. Some substantively
small, but statistically significant differences are present in the raw data. Including
controls for age, socio-economic status, ho
me environment and prenatal environment
largely erase these small differences. By age two, however, substantial racial gaps
emerge. We document similar patterns in a
second, non-nationally representative data
set. A simple calibration exercise suggests that many of the basic facts in the data can be
generated from a model in which there are small mean differences in intelligence across
races, but large environmental differences across races that become increasingly
important as children age. "

TLDR: Even accounting for socioeconomic/environmental factors, there is still likely a racial factor in intelligence. Smaller than environmental factors, but still existing. This from a source that's really trying hard to avoid this conclusion.

Did you read what I just said? Do you think niggers even in Brazil have the same education than whites? I study law in one of the best universities in Brazil. Obviously there are almost no niggers.

How can you compare people this way if their education is different? I agree niggers are subhumans and hate them. I know their nature is to be more violent because their "race" was forced to use violence and force since always. Bu I also can't refuse to admit if there was a country with 50% whites and 50% niggers and there was equal education, their rates of crime would be lessened. I will also admit they would still be inferior and hold most crimes statistics because that's how they are.

My point is their social situation makes the situation more severe.

Then, when you include the terrible anti-intellectual, etc. black culture, you have legitimate reasons to be "racist".

>wealthier countries hold better statistics

What a surprise user

But the welfare system reward single moms to produce more kids. More kids = more welfare.

IQ has nothing to do with learned materials. It's entirely based on brain function through problem solving. No one can teach your brain to work, either it does or doesn't

It's not based on skin color alone. It's based on statistics. Assumptions based on statistics is not bad. Look at this. Based on this, if I see a nigger on the street, I can assume he's more likely to pull a gun on me than if another white person pulled a gun on him

>"Well Chinese are fucking horrible at English."
What's the problem here?

I will partially agree. Countries with bigger nigger population than Europe will have worse numbers. Take niggers out of Brazil and Argentina and the countries are going to be like 300x better.

Being dumb isn't a symptom of being poor. Although being poor IS a result being dumb. Get it Dummy?

Poland did much better than Sweden...Sweden is a wealthier country than Poland.

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Being dumb isn't a symptom of being poor but being poor will make the dumb situation continuous.

e.g. Black mother is stupid. No money. Keeps being stupid. Have kid. No money and shitty education. Kid grows up and is dumb too. Now kid and mother dumb. Kid now adult have a kid. No money yet. And goes on.

>Show me the studies showing the cause of these racial discrepancies

minnesota transracial adoption study.

Checkmate you libshit faggot. Now what?

Yes their social situation has some influence, but my point is that race is more than skin color. If you can agree with me on that I would be happy because all I'm looking for is for people to realize this

Maybe you're just a dumb fuck that fails to realize that they are poor because they are dumb, they are not dumb because they are poor. If you put smart person in a poor environment he will become wealthy, if you put a dumb person and Wealthy environment he will become poor.

Stop making excuses for subhumans

Money has nothing to do with passing down genetic traits.

Education doesn't make you smart and makes you educated. The fact that you can't distinguish the difference does not surprise me at all

>if I see a nigger on the street
you need to cross the street for your safety.

yeah sure, cause that statistic shows us that indeed, there are more white people in the us, so most victims will be white too.
And I get that Blacks in the USA have a higher crime rate than anyone else. That being said, this should not make you a racist, it should make you more catious in situations you deem to be "statiscally dangerous". But instead you project and actually get emotionally involved by forming lasting opinions about people you dont even know, since you havent met most.
The US is dangerous; youre gunlaws are beyond me and its no wonder violent crimerates are as high as they are. But thats youre business, your laws, I wouldnt care. That isnt an excuse to become a fascist though. Its barely enough to justify being paranoid.

PHD geneticist from oxford with 85 years experience in the field here: Your full of shit.

Are you stupid or what? I'm saying the number of wealthier countries doing good is higher not that it's impossible to have at least one poorer country in the list.

Imagine a district with 2 super rich cars and 98 poor cars. Now imagine a district with 60 above average cars, 30 average cars and 10 poor cars. Which district is better?

The SAT test was derived from a US military aptitude test that was biased against race. Look it up.

Also, where's the source for that graph?

>Can someone explain to me why they believe racism is wrong?

Because it's sloppy thinking. Judging someone based on the probability distribution of their race robs them of the chance to show you they're one of the outliers.

"General ideas are no proof of the strength, but rather of the insufficiency of the human intellect."

Jesus christ, not this shit again!

There is no such thing as racism.
There is racialism and it's common sense and fully normal sentiment.

If you are in the presence of any black people you are technically in a situation that is statistically more dangerous then being in a room of poor white people. This isn't my opinion, this is statistical fact. How you choose to deal with those facts are your own fucking problems, me personally I just stay the fuck away from black people. Most the time it's not worth the risk

If more white people = more white victims, why doesn't more white people = more white criminals? To me it seems that there is more to race than skin color like that niggers have a more aggressive and violent nature. On that note though, the whites' population in their own countries is falling as the niggers' rises. When niggers become the majority are you going to reverse your logic by saying more niggers = more black criminals?

Massachusetts is something like 85% white. Vermont (the home of Bernie Sanders and Howard Dean) is a whopping 95% white. CT is much lower at 75% (a lot more Hispanics in CT than in MA.) There are huge areas of New England where you have to go out of your way to find a black person.

Obviously you can't take a rotten apple and make in brand-new again. But you can prevent new apples from getting rotten.

Do you agree if I say grown up poor and stupid people won't change but if I inject money and good education for people in these areas since they are like 1 year old the race and area situation will get better?

Of course they will be inferior yet but it would start to change the situation and lessen the gap.

If we're all equal than how can you devise a test that would favor one race over another ?

Have you ever thought anything through ever?

Why don't you go move into a ghetto then?

>Implying IQ doesn't change with generations
Do people even understand how an Intelligence Quotient works?

Deny, deny, deny

I don't have time to read the whole study before this thread dies but I will, thanks.
That being said, read the premiss and it already seems gloomy. 40 year old study comparing adopted black kids to non-adopted whites? Already some red flags that they were fishing for a specific conclusion.

If a nigger talks to me in a sophisticated manner and in proper English then yeah I'll give them a chance but that hasn't happened yet, so I'm gonna pass on giving each and every nigger a chance

Yes you can adjust the gap but not enough to level the playing field, not even close. The only conclusion you can get from there is that they are genetically inferior

>if I close my eyes it will probably go away

>implying iq means shit
>implying lil' niggers starving in Africa and elsewhere don't have more survival skill and pussy than your fat ass
>implying not b8