What's so bad about communism?

What's so bad about communism?

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ill be forced to share the fruits of my labor with the undeserving and will be rewarded with nothing at all for striving to be better.

Just read a history book.
Or even easier, look at Eastern Europe and how fucked and corrupt we are.

Nothing if it's executed properly.
Conceptually, it's a perfect dreamland, but people are too corrupt to make it work.

they were fucked and corrupt a long time before communism - thats societal rather than politics

No incentive to do anything. Mollycodels people that are essentially useless. I'm no economist but thats just my opinion.

There's nothing bad about communism. The problem is that it can't work in conjunction with basic human nature. Communism is great; the idea that literally everything is equal amongst everyone. Everything is shared, everyone has the same thing. But it's also a meritocracy, where you prove your worth to society and are rewarded for it with greater responsibilities. The Federation, from Star Trek? That's essentially a communist utopia.

Humans don't work on those terms, and we won't until we develop some kind of molecular replication technology. As long as people are obsessed with the self and material gains, a system like Communism simply can't work. We are greedy, selfish, power hungry, immature children, and there will always be assholes that fuck the system over for personal gain.

So that's it.

It is natural for humans to have ambitions, individuality and to strive for better things. Communism works against that. In theory, it is an ideology which would catapult mankind into prosperity and peace, but it does not work with humans. You could still program machines and AI to follow this ideology, and they will build better civilisations than we humans could. Which would be bad, too.

It lets freaks like Stalin and Mao Zedong into power

I'd rather not get put in a gulag for crimes I didn't commit because my second cousin once removed was the first to stop clapping at a communist party conference

I believe what you meant to say is that we strive for success and wealth, and want to be rewarded for the hard work we put into something

That's a very optimistic way of looking at it, but it's not a realistic one. We are biologically driven to one-up each other, which usually involves fucking over everyone else to further personal gains for yourself and your immediate family unit. We strive for success and wealth to ensure a better future for ourselves and our offspring. It's a basic biological imperative, however it SHOULD have plateaued once humans reached sapience. The betterment of society at large, and ensuring a better future for EVERYONE, should have been the natural evolution of survival of the fittest. But it hasn't happened, because we're stupid apes and can't get past it. And somehow, the worst of us are the ones that almost always end up with the most power.

i have a basic question: where the fuck did you read that communism means sharing shit with people? wtf? when did fucking marx said shit about sharing your personal things??? wow, its like the black legend that spanish people have, bullshit invented by english people that people stupidly believe
communism just means that there is no private property of means of production, what the fuck you just have to read the basic definition in fucking google
do you really people think in communism you cant have private shit? you cant have a phone or a house? you live in the street? oh no, neither the street because its public, you live in nowhere...
ignorance is just a disease
do you mean in the URSS there werent any achievement because there were no competition? are you just retard or what? if there werent any progress it wouldnt have been the competitor of USA

you mean in capitalism you are better?
like in basically the whole mid and south america, asia, africa and practically everywhere in second and third world?

>do you mean in the URSS there werent any achievement because there were no competition? are you just retard or what? if there werent any progress it wouldnt have been the competitor of USA

USSR was socialist, not communist. A society can never be fully communist because people are never fully equal.

I appreciate your basic question, but I really have no intention of having an argument with some kid that's so ANGRY for no reason. There's no fucking point in it. Go have a nap or drink some tea or listen to some music or something and come back. I have no patience for angsty teenagers.

Other than the fact that communism has killed more people than any other form of government? That dictators like Lenin, Pol Pot, and so on have higher kill counts than Hitler?

How about the fact that it doesn't work?
Or the fact that it only impoverishes any nation that uses it?

>marx
Eat shit and die, cuck.
Communism is pushed by the 'property is theft' crowd, for one. For another, YES, your personal fucking things, imbecile. Look at every implementation of communism in the history of communism. In every one of them, they 'redistributed wealth,' meaning people's personal belongings (homes, cars, money, etc) was procured by their governments and redistributed.

>hur dur marx didn't say it dat's not communism
It fucking is.
>herp derp communism has never been tried before.
It has. And it has failed. Every. Single. Time.
Communism, Socialism--all forms of communalism, and most especially Marxism, are a fucking cancer that only lead to ruin and need to be purged.

the basic reason of me being angry is that the main solution to the CANCER that capitalism is to the earth and to the people born in countries not touched by the hand of God (money), which is communism, is being ruined by stupid lies of definition

Because it's killed roughly 20% of the world's population alone, and that's without the wars involved.

literally nothing

>Look at every implementation of communism in the history of communism.
could you list me a single implementation of communism? i dont know a single one except experiments in small cities in some countries in europe
>marx eat shit
oh, so you havent read shit about communism but you speak shit about it, seems reasonable
>they 'redistributed wealth,' meaning people's personal belongings (homes, cars, money, etc) was procured by their governments and redistributed.
oh you mean the same shit some fascist gobernments do because the country is in war and production is very low and they have to do something in order to avoid people dying of starvation?
i think you have never seen socialism in a state without war or trade interdictions by USA, so why do you compare what you know in history with countries without poverty? i mean, compare urss with the USA of the 30s, look, VERY HIGH corruption! wow so capitalism is by definition a very corrupt system
oh of course now you reply to me that it doesnt work like that....

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>USSR was socialist, not communist
Bullshit. Socialism is putting a pretty new dress on the same old filthy whore that is communism in order to attracted idiots too simpleminded to comprehend or idealists blinded by the shine of it.

>A society can never be fully communist because people are never fully equal.
>COMMUNISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED!!!

The USSR, China, North Korea, various parts of Africa, and so on would like to have a word with you on that one.
TL;DFR: This is a classic case of moving the goalposts. It didn't succeed, so *obviously* it wasn't *really* communism or it would have worked!
Fuck off with that shit and go back to daydreaming about sucking off Marx.

Oh, by the way, even your hero Marx said he couldn't see a way for communism to ever work in the real world and admitted that it was all wishful thinking.

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Fedora guy on the right gets me
>Communist
>Buys capitalists merchandise Che shirt

This is why communism does not work.

It invariably ends in totalitarianism.
And it's executed by human beings, so it is never executed "properly."

men aren't angels

>Communism and Christianity are great ideas on paper but will never be realized in real life because men aren't angels.

Why do you keep assuming communism and socialism are the same without demonstrating it?

It's funny that you speak about Christianity because the one that speak about sharing the things you have is Jesus not Marx

You are not a troll. You really think communism is good. But you fail to see why it does not work. It doesn't even work with ants. Read more on the topic, then come back and apologize.

>could you list me a single implementation of communism?
Are you retarded or did you just fail history? Or are you using some newfangled, special snowflake definition of communism that moves the goalposts so that any failures of the past were never *really* communism to begin with?
USSR, China, North Korea to name three.

>oh, so you havent read shit about communism but you speak shit about it, seems reasonable
I don't mentally masturbate to fantasies where everyone is 'equal' in wealth, biologically, etc. Equality is a lie, and the worst sort of lie at that--and to attempt to force equality on people is about the worst crime you can commit. You want reading material? Read Harrison Bergeron.

>oh you mean the same shit some fascist gobernments do because the country is in war
>in war
Name one fascist European nation that has done this. Not even Nazi Germany did this. No, the only dictatorships that have done this are the USSR (communist) under Stalin and Lenin, North Korea (commies, again, and on a daily basis), China (commies, wow) and nigger filled nations in Africa (though I'm not sure you can call most of those governments so much as small feudal kingdoms).

>trade interdictions by USA
>A-a-america is why we can't have nice things, like socialism!!!

>with countries without poverty
See the USSR, China, and North Korea again. None of those are (or were, in the case of the USSR, before Balkanization) exactly in poverty.

>capitalism is by definition a very corrupt system
So is communism.
The citizens of the soviet union had a saying for that, that actually managed to translate well and works well to educate those who don't understand shit about communism: "You pretend to pay me and I pretend to work."

Fuck communism and fuck your bread lines.

>You really think communism is good
What?
Nigger, reading comprehension--do you even? Everything there says it's BAD. It does not work.

Probably the fact that it has never once worked.

Ask a Venezuelan.

Communism.

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Well, faggot? I'm still waiting for you to come back and apologize for acting like an illiterate, fedora tipping idiot.