If sex between adults and children were to be legalized, how would we prevent manipulation on the part of the adult...

If sex between adults and children were to be legalized, how would we prevent manipulation on the part of the adult? How would it be possible to make sure they don't threaten or bribe the child?

it isn't possible.
and even if child sex with legal, you still wouldn't get laid.

but it doesnt. pedophilia doesn't mean adults having sex with children, it means being attracted to children. if it would be accepted as an (granted, it's problematic) outlier in human sexuality it would probably help people in that way. stigmatisation and outcasting however doesn't help. i mean homosexuality and gay marriage etc. also have the baseline of mutual agreement.

That changes literally nothing. You can keep your sexual interests to yourself and you will be accepted. Why do you the feel the need to tell everyone what it is you get off to?

pedophilla only becomes a problem when its acted upon, but when it is acted upon it is clinically shown to fuck up the child more often than not

It's a really good way to make sociopaths.

Of the three in the OP necrophilia is the only one that really shouldn't be a problem

>clinically shown to fuck up the child more often than not

This is true. It also means there's a set of factors that leads to one outcome and not the other. We could find out what those are if research could be legally done, unfortunately any attempt is shut down by mass hysteria.

It would mean having resources and treatment for people who might otherwise harm a child, to help ensure that they never do.

It shouldn't be something you announce tbh, but there should be something out there to help people who are attracted to kids to not act on it.

Yes.

I see you want a grant for a study on how to fuck children without causing mental illness.

why don't you take a seat right over there?

the point isn't that pedos should be "proud and loud" about being pedos, but that they shouldn't feel scared or afraid to tell certain people.
Right now a pedo even if he thinks that it's wrong won't talk to anyone because he knows that anyone who finds out will probably judge the living fuck out of him, so he keeps it hidden, which can only make the feelings worse.
If we make it ok for these people to talk about it, then they might actually get some help, and they will be able to have better control over their urges.

Resources for what? Drugs to help you deal with your loneliness? You just want the state to pay for you to get high.

>treatment for people who might otherwise harm a child, to help ensure that they never do.
"I can't stop myself from raping another person, please help me I can't control my dick." Come on, there's no way that's a real thing.

This is very true, but the social stigma should exist and those people should know that fucking a child brings with it the chance of a hellish short life on the cell block.

It keeps people from actually doing it.

you're completely right. i was merely pointing out that "having sex with children" is not the same as pedophilia. it seems to me you didn't entirely get that (or i didn't - the text is not communicating clearly what "the line" is) because you talk about legalizing sex between adults and children, while the text you posted says nothing of this kind.
the way i understood it, these people want acceptance. and i can perfeclty accept someone who's a pedophile and jacks off to computer-generated pictures, but not someone who's supporting child pornography or even worse - is himself molesting kids.

thats not thoroughly thought through. because these stigmata already exist, but still people fuck children. i mean a lot of people know that smoking kills, but still do it. or take drugs that are obtained illegally. these kind of things don't stop people who can't control themselves, but it sure as hell prevents people to ask for professional help.

Therapists are legally mandated to report child abuse, and even have a duty to warn in some cases.

It goes on for quite a while about children giving consent to sexual intercourse. The #pedosexual promoters on twitter seem to be split down the middle between contact and non-contact. Personally I don't see the point in the latter. Don't want contact? Fine, don't seek it out, no one cares. Feeling sad? Grow a pair and deal with it.

not the same person, but:
Raping or even just fucking a child (even with their "consent") should still be illegal.
Sure, there are people who don't get influenced by these laws, because they're so desperate, but that doesn't mean that no one is afraid of the sentence.
Although I do agree that we shouldn't stigmatize it so fucking badly to where a pedo will be afraid to even mention it to anyone, but that's less to do with laws, and more to do with social shit.

again, not the same person, but:
It's not about drugs, at least not mainly.
The idea is that these people can be helped (maybe cured, maybe just help with controlling themselves). The help imo, would mostly be psychological. Them having a person they can trust, someone to talk to, would help a great deal in having better control over their urges.

i know, i'm a psychologist myself, and of course they should report cases where there's harm done or risk of harm exists. but there's no reason to report someone just because they feel attacted to 11yo boys. if they start to share their plans to lure thomas peterson from next door into their van tho, that's another story.

>report child abuse
again, yes, child abuse is a terrible thing, but not every pedo is an actual rapist/abuser.
Yes we should punish the ones who actually act on it, but we should also help the ones who want to be able to control it, and the stigma prevents them from actually getting the help they want/need.

I'm not exactly sure, but wasn't the whole thing started by Sup Forums?
I remember threads about people wanting to trigger the left by promoting "cloversexuals" (basically pedos). I'll admit I haven't been keeping up with this shit, but a decent amount of the posts might be just trolls.

I'd be willing to bet it's harmless when

>children can choose their sexual partners
>they can say no whenever they want
>they don't get brainwashed into believing they were taken advantage of
>the adult respects that the child is exploring sexuality

It wouldn't take that much research to figure it out. Self-hatred, abstinence and crying on a psychologist's couch while neurologists poke needles in your brain to see how they can rewire you is twisted. It's repressing normal human sexuality, taken to the extreme.

right, there might be cases where the child isn't affected negatively, but even if we knew that, it's hard to ensure that if someone is doing something sexual with a child, that they're not manipulating them in any way.
Also, even if it's done carefully or whatever, the child might form pretty unhealthy attachments to the adult in question, which can be a bad thing too.

Also
>Self-hatred, abstinence and crying on a psychologist's couch while neurologists poke needles in your brain to see how they can rewire you is twisted.
you're missing the point, and you have a weird view of psychotherapy.
No one is going to "poke needles in your brain to rewire you", it's literally just talking to a person about your feeling and trying to understand them, and have better control over them.
And the whole point of this is that these people shouldn't feel hatred for themselves, it's that they should understand that that's just how they are, but to also understand that acting upon their feelings might hurt the child.

Thing is, the stigma doesn't differentiate between harmless fun conducted safely, rape and violently destroying a child's ability to ever reproduce. All three behaviors are lumped into the same category.

Fair enough. Mind you, you can't change what a person is attracted to with psychotherapy, promoting that as a possible outcome is lying.

make a licence and require camera's to be placed throughout the home and routinely checked?

that might be totally true, but you can help a person deal with it better, and that's basically all that I'm promoting: letting people who want help, get help.