more like >dude tasteful melodies lmao >dude 10/10 harmony lmao >dude immaculate chord function lmao >dude immaculate voice leading lmao >dude fugues that still haven't been topped 200+ years later lmao >dude perfect balance of technical and emotional lmao >dude I just work as a servant for god and the church lmao, nothing to see here, move along >dude I defeated a bassoonist with a rapier lmao
Apart from the obvious 140, 80, 51 etc. I'd strongly recommend you to check out the chorale cantatas, especially the opening four (20, 2, 7, 135), if only for the difference in the character of the opening choruses. Apart from those four the truly outstanding chorale cantatas are probably 38, 78, 101, 115, 125, 127, and 139. And those are just the ones composed in the 1724-5 year. The later per omnes versus ones are all masterpieces, and you can go throough them at your leisure. If you're into choruses the 6 cantatas composed for Trinity IX onwards in 1723 would be a good place to start, namely cantatas 105, 46, 179, 77, 25 and 69a. All of them open with choral fugues. Also the obligatory solo cantatas 54, 56, 82, 199, and 178+180 are pretty great as well. It's generally a good idea to have the text/translation available while you listen because Bach often uses the music to make a specific point about the text which you might miss if you're not paying attention.
Caleb Ramirez
Is Macron our guy?
Adrian Powell
of course a flaming homosexual would choose a degenerate composer
Hunter Martinez
>namedrops the operas but doesn't mention the themes in them he likes or how that would relate to his candidacy >chooses a non-French composer Super pleb.
Ayden Sanchez
you forgot >mentions bach at the end mega pleb
John Russell
In the narrow sense, yes, actually. The Renaissance was actually very similar to the 20th century, with many people experimenting with music.
Charles Gonzalez
No, he is /cringe/. He's obviously parroting 3rd hand opinions and has no idea what he's talking about. Fucking manufactured puppet is what he is.
Angel Ortiz
When is /classical/ not autistic?
Lincoln Russell
Are Gesualdo's late madrigals some of the best music in the classical music canon?
William Barnes
Yeah
Isaac Ortiz
Just woke up, got my tea, sitting in the rising sun in my robe. What should I listen to?
>non-French Rossini's last operas basically kick-started the French romantic operatic tradition. He was Italian, but he had a huge influence on French music.
Caleb Thomas
Siegfried is the most summer-y of the Ring cycle
Joseph Torres
Just got Leibowitz Beethoven cycle, how wise was I?
Austin Ross
It's probably the best overall cycle available. And it's really well recorded too. It's a good choice.
Jackson Peterson
>Liszt only composed half of his transcendental etudes
>tfw Fritz Wunderlich will never record Winterreise
Jace Perry
Do you support OVPP theory about Bach music? I'm not sure which versions should I listen to...
Robert Nelson
Say it with me:
SCHOENBERG IS UNDERRATED
Hunter Bennett
>Do you support OVPP theory about Bach music? No.
Blake Rivera
ded thred is ded
Jackson Morris
I'm currently reading a book by Butt (who has recorded a lot of OVPP Bach) which I'm hoping will shed some light on the situation. It's pretty heavy-going though and thus far it's mostly concerned with saying "Taruskin was right and I only slightly disagree with him"
Is it stupid to think that the Second Viennese School and their followers were going for a "brooding" atmosphere with their music?
Hudson Ramirez
I think it's difficult to say, because so much of their music has been used in media to represent either scary or brooding moods, to the point where I no longer know whether or not I associate it with those things because of media, or because of the music itself.
But, I mean, Schoenberg and friends enjoyed a cheery tune just as much as the rest of us. Hell, his 3rd and 4th string quartets are actually kinda whist-able.
It was a good time to be brooding, though. Cynicism was definitely on the rise in those days, pretty sure everyone in the SVS saw battle and served in the war.
Xavier Edwards
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Ethan Watson
>tfw Fritz Wunderlich will never record Winterreise
Colton Roberts
...
Joseph Collins
>tfw Harnoncourt will never record Glagolitic Mass
Adam Ross
How did the SVS feel about their representation in the media? Did they ever even talk about it?
Grayson Gonzalez
>that face
I get his music now.
Ryder Fisher
Terrible advice The 9th symphony is a destination, not a starting point.
Cameron Reyes
What's the most dark and depressing symphony you can think of /classical/?
Wyatt Wright
Any one of Pettersson.
Oliver Bailey
It's both.
Benjamin Lee
BWV 35 also an obligatory solo cantata.
Jose Robinson
Nah. That guy does not listen to classical music, probably he does not even have the attention span required to actually listen to the 9th Symphony for its entire duration.
It makes more sense to link him Beethoven's sonatas and short Mozart's symphonies.
Jonathan Garcia
>he does not even have the attention span required to actually listen to the 9th Symphony for its entire duration. That's a depressing thought.
Alexander Jackson
He can still get improve it. I started listening to classical music 3 years, coming from albums that were popular on Sup Forums, and now I can sit down and listen to 3 hours of music in which I'll transcribe mentally and feel every single note I'll hear, without ever getting tired. At the beginning I used to struggle to finish individual sonata movements (which is fair, since I was so used to 2 to 3 minutes, more repetitive music).
Give him time, if he loves it he will eventually master the discipline needed to be a good listener.
Caleb Johnson
>Mozart symphonies instead of the superior piano concerti
I've found some old-ass sheet music and I have no idea how to determine its age or value. Does anyone know how to do this? It's Edition Peters Nr. 1731a, Mendelssohn Violinkozert in e moll.
Wyatt Johnson
what is the best version of Beethoven's 9th symphony on Spotify? (there's loads)
Levi Cruz
Nvm I'm stupid, I didn't notice the year of copyright
rec me a documentary about classical music composers
Colton Powell
>anons keep parroting Verdi's opinion, without keeping in mind that Verdi was one of the best choral and vocal composers ever existed, and that his criticism can be shared only by composition virtuosos like him
Piss off. If the choral parts were the only ones lacking there it'd be grand. The subjects from previous movements are very awkwardly reintroduced for example, medley-pastiche-style.
