someone PLEASE explain this to me
I've been on flights where they had to pull people due to overbooking, it's not uncommon
Why the fuck are liberals getting pissed at the airliner? Was it not the security of O'Hare airport that should be scrutinized? I'm sure no one told them to make the fucking guy bleed from the mouth
And no one's talking about it...shills man...always offended by something without reason
That's not what shill means, btw.
New or extra chromosome?
been here for a long time, just hate seeing people misuse that word.
also, if you want to piss off the liberals you will probably get more traction by atacking his character with the information that has come to light about his drug/sex crimes, considering it's not the central issue that people are angry about it tends to instantly piss them off even more because it diminishes their complaint and attempts to sideline it.
If it was a white guy, they wouldn't give a shit. They'd demonize him instead.
no, they don't do that after boarding. And it wasn't overbooked, some staff wanted to ride last minute
>cis white male deplaned after refusing to give up seat to 500 pound transgenderqueerfluiddemilesbian.
And to think United used to have such good customer service. Even just 16 years ago, they'd fly you right to your office.
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Whether it's overbooked or not is no excuse. The airline shouldn't punish it's customers so it can make a few extra bucks.
At the very least the $800 they offered should if been a starting point. Do it like a bidding system keep upping the price until you get takers. Even if cost them 10k that's nothing to UA. Especially considering it's their own greed/stupidity that caused the problem.
I think people are more upset about how he was violently thrown off the plane, rather than the overlooking itself.
See, you are exactly what's wrong with what's going on. I remember when the consumer was king. None of this bullshit socialist crap where the workers can hitch a ride for free off the backs of hard working ticket paying clients.
Motherfucker like you will run this country into the ground.
I've read somewhere that there is a rule set by the DOT that the minimum a passanger should be paid for overbooking is $1300. Forgot where I saw this.
$600 in alcohol and $200 in hookers
>WWYD?
Exactly. I can't believe people support this whether it's in their rules or not.
In saying that I saw a post on twitter with copies of a UA ticket and the paperwork you get with it. There is no mention of being removed from the plane if overbooked.
People are upset about a whole spectrum of things in relation to this incident, and it's all bullshit. The only reason anybody gives a shit about this is because it's airline-related inconvenience, and they can relate to the feeling. When you have to pay extra for your bags, that's exactly the same as being dragged, bloody, off an airplane. The people who are bitching all over the internet only know that level of suffering in their lives. None of them can imagine what it's like to be starving to death or be a sex slave, so none of the actual news stories in the world are getting through.
thats the maximum if they cant get you to your destination within 2 hours of the original arrival time. youre entitled to compesation equal to 4x the price of the ticket, up to 1350.
>Why the fuck are liberals getting pissed at the airliner?
Of course a republitard is in favour of assaulting paying custumers. Jesus fucking Christ, the US politicizes everything, you need more mass shootings already.
That was funny cause those guys flew tjat plain into that towers. =)
I hope I get to see those fuckers go belly up and they better not get a faggoty too big to fail bailout hand job either.
I meant hand out
The flight was "overbooked" because united prioritized 4 employees over their actual customers, allegedly on short notice.
The security/TSA/police/whatever obviously were the ones who actually did the physical harm to him but chances are they got pressured into removing him quickly.
When all is said and done, united are the ones who are responsible for the situation in the first place and they handled it in an astonishingly retarded manner after the fact.
>I've been on flights where they had to pull people due to overbooking, it's not uncommon
I know goys if a company sells more tickets than seats there is literally 0 (zero) problem and we should continue this practice.
Can you read? Did the ceo of United walk onto that plane and beat the man or was it airport security?
And united controls airport security when there is an incident on their plane.
A million fucking times this. Why is it so fucking hard for you rednecks to understand this? Inbred mongoloids.
Being this stupid should be a crime.
Your face should be a crime!
1. First of all, it's airline spin to call this an overbooking. The statutory provision granting them the ability to deny boarding is about "OVERSALES", specifically defines as booking more reserved confirmed seats than there are available. This is not what happened. They did not overbook the flight; they had a fully booked flight, and not only did everyone already have a reserved confirmed seat, they were all sitting in them. The law allowing them to deny boarding in the event of an oversale does not apply.
2. Even if it did apply, the law is unambiguously clear that airlines have to give preference to everyone with reserved confirmed seats when choosing to involuntarily deny boarding. They have to always choose the solution that will affect the least amount of reserved confirmed seats. This rule is straightforward, and United makes very clear in their own contract of carriage that employees of their own or of other carriers may be denied boarding without compensation because they do not have reserved confirmed seats. On its face, it's clear that what they did was illegal - they gave preference to their employees over people who had reserved confirmed seats, in violation of 14 CFR 250.2a.
3. Furthermore, even if you try and twist this into a legal application of 250.2a and say that United had the right to deny him boarding in the event of an overbooking; they did NOT have the right to kick him off the plane. Their contract of carriage highlights there is a complete difference in rights after you've boarded and sat on the plane, and Rule 21 goes over the specific scenarios where you could get kicked off. NONE of them apply here.
Not only was what United did in violation of their own policy, it was also illegal. They fucked up, they're pieces of shit, and that dude is going to get fucking paid out the ass.
The best part is all the doinks saying this practice should end will then be crying when we pay more because they cannot fill planes due to no Yu shows.
They need every seat filled. And even then, coach makes them negligible profit. First and business class, and bouncing passengers when needed due to overselling for no shows, subsidize low ticket prices. And they are low. Europeans come to the US and are amazed at how low they are. Just like most things.
There would is no explaining this to today's human. People treat everything as a human right. It makes it easier to then treat everything unfair as a human rights abuse.
This guy is mental.
for the life of me i can figure out why people give a fuck about this. how are the liberals gonna spin this when they find out he was taking advantage of women by trading drugs/prescriptions for sexual favors? the guy is an absolute shit bag.
Actually he was taking advantage of a man for sexual favours.
But that has literally nothing to do with the way he was treated, so for a guy that doesn't give a fuck you've sure read a lot about who he is and his past.
What the fuck are you talking about? Flights in the U.S. are expensive as fuck. I'm an Amerifag and spent 4 years living in the U.K. (2008-2012) and would get on flights to almost anywhere in Europe for about £30 each way. Show me U.S. domestic flights amazingly lower than that.
All I care about is how Warren Buffet, maybe the one good billionaire out there who is donating 99% of his money on death to charity, is the largest shareholder of United
I'm guessing he had a nice call with the ceo this morning, which is why he apologized today
Must be pissed he lost 600m$ due to a couple of retards
"liberals"
Many right wingers are taking issue with this as well.
Also, in what way is it relevant that we found out, after the fact, that he might have done something bad at some point? Hell, he could have been selling drugs to little children a day before this happened, that wouldn't change anything because it's not about the guy but rather about how he was treated and that it could have hit anyone in economy class.
it's probably the way the airline handled the situation. they literally could have asked the next guy or given more compensation. instead it had to be that dude. there's no point arguing with someone acting out like that. or maybe he really had somewhere to be.
Looks like a gook to me...
yeah...quit baiting please. I've lived and flown in the US since I was a kid, and only once in my life have I seen someone pulled off a plane, and thats cuz they were a petty fugitive.
your post doesn't even make sense, "it's not uncommon". really, its not uncommon for people to be dragged off airplanes? thats normal for you? How the fuck are people putting up with airlines who would commonly overbook and have to yank people off the plane?
>it could have hit anyone in economy class
werent there three other people who got off without causing a commotion? arent there thousands of americans bumped from flights every year with no issue? the dude thought he had the right to be on the plane, when in reality they can bump him off and owe him compensation if they cant get him to his destination within an hour of the original arrival time.
Neither side is righteous in this situation.
fuck man, im anything other than a lib, but i was still pissed. he even said he had patients waiting for him. total nonsense. yeah sure overbooking is a problem, but airlines do that. they overbook for more business.
It's his fault for resisting orders he agreed to comply with when he bought a ticket. He should have been beaten shitless and thrown out the back door where no one will help him and he can walk his bleeding ass home to ZERO media attention, like he'd whipped out his dick at a strip club. It's no goddamn different and he's a fucking loser. At absolute best he's entitled to a refund of the ticket price, though in my opinion he should be charged with multiple counts of assault by an Air Marshal and fined at least $10,000.
wasted quads.
because the airline has to pay you 4x the ticket price if they make you more than 2 hours late, so they will ask for volunteers to get off in return for free hotel stays, flight vouchers and hundreds of dollars cash. some people intentionally buy tickets on flights that are overbooked so they can volunteer to be put on a later flight in exchange for free shit.
>charge somebody with getting beat up
Why are there so many fucking retards? Or are you the same retard making different posts?
He did have a right to be on the plane. If you have a reserved confirmed seat, as he did, they can only bump you, by company policy and the fucking law, if the plane is overbooked. It wasn't overbooked, it was just full, and they wanted paying passengers who were already seated to deplane to accommodate 4 of their employees who weren't crew on that flight.
"OH IM A EDGY TEEN IM GOING TO GO AGAINST EVERYONES OPINION. OH WAIT, I DONT HAVE ANY EVIDENCE, IM JUST GOING TO SPILL SOME RANDOM BULLSHIT LIKE HE SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH ASSAULT AND FINED 10K"
people like you are pathetic. all i know is that when you actually grow up, your going to be a pathetic neet.
And you think when they are looking for people to "voluntarily" give up their seat they should pick someone and literally drag them off the plane if they refuse to go? Also, this shit usually happens BEFORE you board the fucking plane, you get notified that the flight was overbooked, they try to get you there anyway and you get compensated. This shit escalated because they decided last minute that 4 of their employees apparently needed to be on that plane.
They put their employees over their paying customers, and now there is a consumer backlash. That's just how it goes.
BUT THE POLICE STATE IS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
Welcome to Sup Forums
That shit usually happens before you board the plane because that's the only time they can legally bump you. If you've already boarded, they cannot legally force you off because they're overbooked, which wasn't even the case here.
yep.
welcome. i swear to god everyone who does not support the gook doctor came from those gay ass Sup Forums dank memes or whatever, like you.
I was just making a joke, how do automatically assume where I came from??
I'd have to look that up, but that's interesting. Thanks.
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so i was right?
nice
Bottom zozz
"United Airways, service nonstop to La Guardia, now waterboarding rows one through fifteen."
They're pissed because the police brutalized this dude for a private company.
Fucking retard
Heh
If he was a white christian male the conservatives would be all over this. "Hard working American Trying to get back on track after troubled past mistreated by airline. Boycott them" :>
No, man, you're good. Hand job is both funny and appropriate.
>why the fuck are liberals getting pissed
I live in the south and a lot of my pro-military, conservative, pro-trump, anti-nigger friends are pretty pissed off at it too. I really don't care. Just a new facebook meme, that's all.
you're a goddamned illiterate idiot.
See:
yea, they can bump you for whatever reason they want besides being a member of a protected class. if the pilot says you cant fly on his plane, youre getting off no matter what.
Why are you people so retarded? See:
they can bump you until the plane has left the gate. they CAN legally bump you from the flight when youre already seated if the plane has not left the gate.
Because they just want an excuse to enjoy reveling in violence. Bootlickers, all of them.
that guy who wrote that big detailed essay is wrong. you can be bumped until the plane has left the gate.
>Because they just want an excuse to enjoy reveling in violence
I mean I get that, then watch some gore or watch how the police beats up antifa fags, that's way better and makes you less of a wankstain.
Not simply because they've overbooked, no. Nor simply because they want to give the seats to their employees who aren't crew on the flight in question.
As a private company they are within their rights to forcibly disembark a passenger but the passenger must be reimbursed 200% - 400% of their ticket price and be given a new flight to their destination.
The dude was asked to leave, part of a group of 4 randomly selected by a computer in order to seat employees for the flight and he refused. Police Department was called in, he was given a lawful order to leave and he refused. They physically moved him after that by picking him out of his seat and he smacked his face off of the tiny compartment of the plan, I think the seat head rest in front of him and thus he has a busted face. (More than before).
He got fucked up because he was a dumb ass.
The guy who wrote that big detailed essay is an attorney.
Learn the difference between denying boarding and refusing transport, and the necessary conditions for the latter.
Moronic liar and anyone that falls for this is retarded
Prime example
Listen
>me
>last year
>flying to London
>everyone boards
>it's 1am in boston
>been on plane 45 minutes waiting to leave gate
>”eh folks, we're having a technical difficulty with the door, we're going to have to refund your tickets"
>everyone exits plane
>half crying, no place to stay
>luckily I have friend in boston
But guess what, it wasn't international news and they had every right to do so
yes they can. they can kick you off for whatever reason they want, besides being a member of a protected class. you dont have a right to be on an airplane you dont own, even if you paid for a ticket.
Because that's a safety issue, you literal fucking retard.
Learn what a contract of carriage is.
>a technical difficulty that they can't fix is the same as "lol 4 of our guys want to get on that plane"
Are you literally retarded?
lol no hes not an attorney. when youre in your seat but the door isnt shut yet you are not technically boarded.
Right. Because the contract of carriage isn't a thing. Fuck off and read a book.
>a technical fault meaning my plane doesn't take off so we don't all die
>the same as forcing a paying customer off a flight so that an employee can take his spot, and breaking his face in the process
You're a special kind of stupid, pal.
God damn Mongolians!
dude was a doctor and had to work on the place where the plane was comin
>charge somebody with physically resisting complying with a legally issued instruction they previously agreed follow to in an area so secure he had to have his shoes x-rayed to even be there
Actually yeah, he should have calmly returned to the ticket counter like an adult and he should be punished for not doing so just as he would had he not complied with orders from a police officer.
United can do whatever it wants within the confines of your agreement to use their service and I would be you a million bucks it says that it says you will comply with employee instructions.
You guys are acting like he chained himself to some ancient redwood to prevent it from being cut down, this isn't even a remotely legitimate form of protest. He should have explained his needs, let them fail and then responded to their failure to carry out something they agreed to do. He could boycott them, he could get other doctors to boycott them by calling them unreliable, he could sue them. That's what you do when a business wrongs you in our society, you don't fight with them and you don't complain about the repercussions of doing something entirely illegal. "
What's stupid about this is it defames the entire act of breaking the law to resist something unfair, you know, like chopping down the giant redwood tree or something actually important. If you're going to bring that down to "muh airline seat" you endanger the entire moral outlook of civil disobedience. Then again, non-violent resistance doesn't seem to be in the leftist wheelhouse anymore, does it? I mean, I see this attempt at economic warfare by the left - that's what this is, you took a meaningless incident and did your fake news to fuck with one of "Drumpf's" precious American Job Creators. But now that much more care and money will be spent keeping incidents out of the public eye. If they knew it would cost them $600m do you think he would have walked out of there alive and unthreatened?
Well lets put some perspective on this. Those 4 employees needed to be in Louisville to fly another aircraft somewhere. What would you do if you were the airliner? Deny boarding to this immature felon? Or inconvenience 50+ passengers the next day?
i bet you a million bucks united fired the people who busted the gooks ass.
whether it is a policy or not, it got them into a lot of trouble, with social media. they are not going to get alot of sales after this.
lolutrollme
I just flew in from Chicago and boy is my face bloody.
Good
>Autism Awareness
It might hurt their sales for a few weeks, but people will eventually forget and move on like they always do
>because united prioritized 4 employees over their actual customers,
But those 4 employees were going to service more than 4 customers. Not sending them would be inconveniencing even more customers.
Nice same fagging, but I was replying to your point #3, which is a blatant lie. lern2read
You're a retard. It wasn't overbooked. If it was overbooked then you would find out at the gate. United were fucktards and decided it was a good idea to pull paying customers off that have already been seated and replace them with their own employees.
Furthermore, if it was somehow unknowingly overbooked then the final people to board would be denied not passengers who were already seated on the plane.
Also, it looks like United broke their contract when removing a legal paying customer who has been seated.
Educate yourself.
Rule 21 of the United Airlines Contract of Carriage lists the specific scenarios for which one can be denied transport and removed from the plane. None of them apply here. UA violated the contract, not the passenger.
they're REALLY pissed at that thing that happened two weeks ago, where a couple of girls flying on an employee benefits program were told to wear more appropriate clothing.
How dare they tell princesses not to dress like whores?
"Sir I am terribly sorry but we need your seat"
"No, I am a doctor and I need to see a patient at my destination"
"Is anyone else willing to give up their seat? We guarantee you another flight in the next 24 hours and you'll be reimbursed 3x the price of your ticket"
Pretty sure that would be more reasonable.
classic yank. fucked over for money time and time again and still not getting that you're all cucked by big businesses
But United's contract of carriage doesn't allow them to bump paying customers for deadheads after they get past the gate.
I'm an FBI agent and I'm undercover, coming through your bedsheets, my badge is a rubber, forced entry through your back dooooor!