Gargantuan sized plot holes

I'll start:
If Angio could make a duplicate of himself, why didn't he just do it once to make a single copy of himself. He then could proceed to do the 'Transported Man' show without committing drowning suicide every night.
Angio was not just stupid, he was a certified idiot.
Thanks Nolan.

The device never worked to begin with.

How did Bruce get back in to Gotham in TDKR third act?

It was on total lock down. He also wanders around without getting seen

Fuck man the hats at the beginning are like the hats that they put in the machine when they didnt know what it did and they ended up in the forest holy shit mind blown Nolan da God

ITT: retards nitpicking good movies

In Batman Begins, Scarecrows goons were pouring toxin that activates when the water is evaporated in to an open crack in a pipe over several weeks.

1. Why didn't the water company notice the severe drop in water pressure that comes with having a massive hole in your pipe?
2. Not a single person suffered the effects of the waters toxin after boiling a kettle/water in a pot over the several weeks they were doing this?

also had no money

You're a fucking imbecile.

>Angio

He was trying to frame Bale for murder. That's why he needed to die.

>this same retard pushing his theory every time someone mentions anything related to this movie

Two of him couldn't be alive at the same time together because like during his first successful cloning, the two would just fight until one is dead. Endless loop of suicide either way

>nitpicking
Nah, fuck you m8. Every complaint about a Nolan film gets shot down as nitpicking

see

Literally because 'I'm batman' so the script doesn't need to be watertight

Since the auto pilot feature was already fixed, unbeknownst at the time, he simply gets off before it leaves Gotham and sits tight.

Besides the point, fag. Its still a legit complaint that fans need to run circles to defend, which is embarrassing.

He wanted to relive his wife's death or did you miss the whole

>I once told you about a sailor, who described drowning to me
>Yes, he said it was like going home
>I was lying. He said, it was agony.

Not the bomb thing, when he escapes the pit and makes his way back to Gotham.

The bomb thing is a whole other plot hole, and the timings don't add up.

As another plot hole, Gordon just picks a time out of nowhere and assumes that's exactly how much longer they have until the bomb goes off

No its on point bitch. You're the only one running circles. You're even too stupid to understand simple plot points to the extent you think your retardation is "le plot holes" meme. Fuck off summerpleb.

This.

Why didn't Huge Actman just kill himself? This was his ultimate desire, he didn't really care about beating Batman at party tricks.

He got back to gotham the same way he did at the beginning of Begins. Probably a long ass journey.

How do the timings not add up?

Didn't morgan freeman calculate the time the battery has left?

How is that beside the point? The whole point of the movie was that the Bale brothers could share the spotlight because they had dedication to the craft. Jackman wouldn't, which is why he'd never allow a second of himself to stick around.

That's just the rationalization Jackman used to justify drowning his other self. It isn't why he did it.

Why can't Nolan make a movie with a single likeable character?

>That's just the rationalization Jackman used to justify drowning his other self. It isn't why he did it.

It sounds to me like you're the one rationalizing, friend.

you didn't like ariadne?

>He got back to gotham the same way he did at the beginning of Begins. Probably a long ass journey.
In Begins Gotham wasn't on full lockdown and Bruce had money, connections, and plenty of time. In Rises he's got a few days, no equipment, and is in the middle east
>How do the timings not add up?
He's seen in the batcopter thing a few seconds before it explodes, and he couldn't have retreated to a safe distance at that time.
>Didn't morgan freeman calculate the time the battery has left?
Rough calculation, Gordon later pulls a time out of nowhere

Because he didn't have the dedication to live a double life like Borden did.
He was a showman, not a "real magician" as Borden would say.
Remember that scene in the beginning when they check out the show of the old chinese guy? "This right here is the act" or something like that. Angier didn't believe it and would've never been able to live his fake life day in and day out.
He took the "easy route" which in the end shows the difference between Angier and Borden. This was the whole point of the movie

>which is why he'd never allow a second of himself to stick around.
But he allowed a drunken actor to be his double.
Face it, Nolan is a hack.

What the fuck are you talking about? If Jackman wanted to kill himself by drowning so he could experience what his life did, nothing was stopping him.

That isn't what he wanted to do. He wanted to beat Bale and personally receive adulation for the trick. To do this, he was forced to kill his double. He decided to kill him by drowning because Caine described it as peaceful. This allowed Jackman to kill his double while remaining, in his mind, guiltless.

You're a fucking idiot. He hated the fact that he had to use the actor. He was very explicit in how he wanted to be the man on stage.

See He could have been the man on stage.
Without killing himself.

If there are two of him, the one not on stage is not on stage. This is trivially true. Rub your two brain cells together before you post next time and you won't sound like such an idiot.

They could alternate nights.

Holy shit you're a fucking moron.

Explain yourself ad hominem.

Once again, the point is Jackman didn't want to alternate, as evidenced by him killing his double, because that meant sharing the spotlight. How the fuck are you this slow?

This is a good point. How does Jackman go from accepting compromise to try and make the trick work to insanely killing dozens of clones and keeping them in storage? I can't remember there being any character development to back this up, he just sort of flips because there has to be a twist at the end.

You're a fucking idiot. He wasn't fully on-board with the actor at any point in the act. Caine pressed him into it. Then the actor double stabs him in the back, resulting in him swearing off doubles for good.

He clearly becomes more and more obsessed with beating Bale as the movie goes on. There's even a moment where he explicitly says it has nothing to do with his wife, it's about winning.

How you are unable to follow such a simple story, I've no fucking idea.

For you fanboys who are a bit slow.
Face it Nolan is a hack.
Perhaps you should rethink his other flicks.

Angier would always want to be the one on stage, he was never happy with using a double and two of him sharing a life would never work because he doesn't have Borden's dedication. In order to frame Borden for his murder he needs a version of himself to die during every performance, on the chance that that particular show is the one where Borden is snooping around like angier knows he eventually will. If he just made two clones, killed one and used one as a double, none of that would work

Both Toy Story and Night at the Museum have the same central plot hole in that Buzz/some of the museum exhibits should not "behave" when they do and have no reason to do so since they believe they are real.

That looks like it was made by somebody who read the synopsis only and didn't watch the movie
Being under the stage not getting the recognition is exactly what he didn't want to do you dumbfuck

>Angier would always want to be the one on stage,
He dies every night. He doesn't get to take the bow. The duplicate does and dies the following night.

On ALTERNATE Nights Angio0 takes the stage, the following night Angio1 does.
THE SAME TRICK AS BOURDEN

Jesus Nolan fan's are dense.

>He dies every night. He doesn't get to take the bow. The duplicate does and dies the following night.
They have literally the exact same memories. There is no way to know who's the "original" and who's the "duplicate" and neither does it matter.

He doesn't have the dedication to live that kind of alternating double life

That's why the first time he clones himself, he immediately goes for a gun.

This has been said multiple times in this thread now, sounds like you're the one who's dense.

He didn't want to and probably couldn't live with a double. Remember that scene where he immediately shot his first double? You should look it up, i bet it's in the synopsis as well

It was explained right as soon as his first duplicate came out of the machine he shot it. So he would shoot any succeeding duplicate.

You mean to say he could stomach the drunk duplicate until he got extorted, but he wouldn't be able to take it only taking the bow 50% of the time?


>He doesn't have the dedication to live that kind of alternating double life
No he did. They went to great lengths to hide the drunk and he was fine with it.

He was fine with the drunk double.

Face it Nolan is a hack.

Building on what said, he knows that he will die by drowning, but he doesn't care because he thinks it is like going home and he'll see his wife, and he knows that Borden will realise his genius when he reads the diary, which is all the recognition he needs because everything he did was to beat Borden. The clone has the exact same conscious and gets to enjoy being on stage, and to the public, angier is the world's best magician.

>angier is the world's best magician.
But he wasn't was he. That would be Tesla.

The fact is Nolan never considered the plot hole.

Nobody apart from Angier and Borden knows about tesla

>He was fine with the drunk double.
Jesus fucking Christ is this retard serious.
First of all, that was some drunk idiot who lived his own life. Having an exact copy of yourself that you have to share your life with is something completely different.
Secondly do you remember how well the double worked for him? Maybe he learned from his mistakes?

By killing himself daily with a warehouse full of his own corpses.

You guys are arguing with a 16 year old.

Ah so then its the worlds best STAGE magician.
Because Tesla wins hands down.
If its about stage magic, then Angio would already be there with a duplicate.

Also Angio could manufacture an alternate identity just fine in the form of Lord Cordlow, so duplicates could have lived gloriously.

Face it, Nolan never considered the plot hole because his twists and turns just seemed cool.
He's flicks are shallow and don't stand the test of time.

>tfw Nolan hasn't made a good movie since The Prestige

What went wrong? He could've been one of the greats.

He was depressed and the only thing he still wanted in life was to beat Borden.
Another part of him wanted to die, the same way his wife did. Drowning in a tank like that.
Do we really have to spell each and every one of these things out for you man?

Do you not understand that this is a character driven story? Instead, like some sort of retarded child, you suppose that if YOU were in Angier's position you would have done it this way instead. Except the movie isn't about you. It's about the guy who's so obsessed with beating Borden that he's long since abandoned any and all rational sensibility.

holy fuck you're retarded lol

Bullshit.
The flick is called the prestige.
Its about the duplicate reveal and how smart the "story" is.
The fact is its stupid and you're pretty stupid for falling for it.

All Nolan's work is the same: Look how clever this is. And then its not.

>Face it, Nolan never considered the plot hole because his twists and turns just seemed cool.
>He's flicks are shallow and don't stand the test of time.
Nobody in this thread argues that Prestige or his other films are masterpieces.
You are just simply wrong on everything you say because you have some irrational hatred for Nolan, probably because you feel that makes you part of the Sup Forums hivemind

>Nobody in this thread argues that Prestige or his other films are masterpieces.
No plotholes.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? The story is still character driven? Do you think character driven movies can't have twists or something?

He walked across the ice after travelling across Asia and signing on with the merchant navy.The first movie shows him fighting Ra's on a glacier - he falls through because he fails to mind his surroundings. By TDKR he has learned to be aware of his environment and he can walk across the ice - as they show in the movie. Also in Begins, they show Wayne travelling the world without money. He's able to speak other languages so was able to communicate his needs to the locals.

Twists and turns are fine in Nolan flicks.
Just don't think about them, cause then the logic falls apart.
Remember that when watching Dunkirk.

The logic doesn't fall apart. Characters are sometimes illogical. That's the logic. But being as you're an autist, you can't understand why someone would ever make choices or hold values contrary to your own. So this whole discussion is pointless.

If Bane was so big how was plane able to fly?

>The logic doesn't fall apart. Characters are sometimes illogical
There is none so clear a logic as when one faces death. Or in this case on a daily basis.
But that logic escaped the script writer in favor of a twist. What a twist!

*If* He pulled that off, would he have died?

He's not really an actors director and is incredibly lucky to work with people that can carry some pretty dire scripts.

His style can ruin some of his more emotional scenes which should sometimes be the core of the movie (like interstellar) leaving all of the bombastic trimmings and story telling tricks to be ultimately empty.

He can't handle action well at all. Memento, The Prestige, Insomnia are all great and all focus on a small set of characters with no grand scale events. His battle scenes in TDKR and Inception are dire for example.

If he hadn't been lucky enough to land Guy Pearce for Memento his career would have been very different I think.

In my opinion.

Why did he not get to bring friends?