Who here lives under an actual dictatorship? How does it affect your day-to-day life?

Who here lives under an actual dictatorship? How does it affect your day-to-day life?

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ps liberate us

What about Russia, Belarus, and the Stans? I know we have a few posters from those places.

Kill druggies according to our Dear Leader

Is Duterte actually accomplishing anything or is he just a clown?

whats the deal with the anti-drug thing? is there actually some huge drug problem, or is it just a proxy for some ethnic or political conflict?

Belarus has a dictator? Man I really need to learn more about eastern Europe.

Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if he's just a puppet of China, used the drug shit as a facade.

Duterte is not a dictator.
Enough with this anti-duterte propaganda.

Philippines will look like a Western European nation by the end of Duterte's term.

I did.
Well policemen were abusive, people would get beaat up and put in jail if they were to organise demonstration regarding any matter. Samme with strikes (there still were some, the syndicates were led by relatives of Ben Ali and they'd organise some useless one to make it look good.)

Talking about politics is a death sentance, one fo my cousin went to prison for distributing tracts in his uni.
Oh, and the funniest things was our wonderful rigged elections. The opposition parties were all puppets of the government and real opposition was either in prison or exiled abroad.

>Who here lives under an actual dictatorship?
I live under german dictatorship

>How does it affect your day-to-day life?
I can't get a fucking job.

Our leader writes his own songs which he forces radio to play, he murders journalists who oppose him.

He banned liberal and democratic values from being discussed, instead he promotes "traditional values of the Thai nation."

He cracked down on slavery which fisherman use and imprisoned tens of thousands of prostitutes and those who use their services. He also arrests lots of foreigners for this. He ruthlessly tries to wipe out child abusers and human traffickers.

He introduced a new constitution effectively placing all power in he hands of the military and Buddhist monks.

He stepped up the war in Patani from just an insurgency to full out martial law complete with mass slaughter of innocent civilians just because they are Muslim.

He is openly against democracy and praised the Axis powers and China.

He enforced new morality laws which do things like promote women not working and staying at home with children. He also promotes traditional Thai dress and refuses to use western suits at his cabinet meetings.

He also distrusts the police as there is some rivalry between the police and the army, so he relies heavily on the army to enforce his will.

Economy has sort of stagnated but he has also stepped up state support for those struggling, and people like farmers now actually receive their subsidies.

He also murdered thousands of government officials because he said they are corrupt.

>How does it affect your day-to-day life
Oh I also forgot to mention one important thing. You basically couldn't do business without it being stolen by the trabelsi family. If you opened a business and wanted to grow, you'd have to pay them to let you work.

Also should mention he is extremely popular.

Among everyone or only among the middle and upper class?

Here Ben Ali still was popular among those because the economy was doing good for them.

Are policemen less abusive now?

Meh

You think W.Europe will detoriate that fast?

Middle class dislike him the most because they have the most belief in liberal democracy while he commands absolute loyalty with the upper class. Lower classes mostly like him. According to polls done by foreign groups he has about 80% approval rating.

>Belarus has a dictator? Man I really need to learn more about eastern Europe.

Last I heard it was the only true surviving Soviet state.

U mad Pablo?

yes, I'm not afraid of getting beaten up by one for no reason now. But they'd still ask for a little change instead of giving you a contravention if you do something illegal.

It's mainly because they lost a big part of their authority when the regime fell.

Interesting

>Oh I also forgot to mention one important thing. You basically couldn't do business without it being stolen by the trabelsi family. If you opened a business and wanted to grow, you'd have to pay them to let you work.

That is horrible.

Wanna hear about how bad it could get? I know people who were deemed to influent and where banned from having a job in the country.

Tbh this is not only highly interesting but seems partly good and bad.
Is he simply an absolutist strongman dictator with a vision or did he made up some kind of ideology to justifie the whole thing and keep the executive at least theoretically in check?

> Last I heard it was the only true surviving Soviet state.
that would be Transnistria

>He cracked down on slavery
>He ruthlessly tries to wipe out child abusers and human traffickers.
>people like farmers now actually receive their subsidies.

I can see all of these making you popular despite other policies.

Where were you?

That sounds amazing. The middle class, its civic consciousness and its morality must be eradicated for the good of the common man. Wish someone in my country killed some intellectuals desu.

Hey Thaibro do the Shinawatras still enjoy popularity? What kind of restrictions are there in praising them publicly, if any?

All 3 of them?

Nice you rarely hear of such quick and relevant improvement. Well you are a strained country still so I wouldnt have expected them to be 100% cuddlecops like here.
You think your current political course is build to last and serve you well?

Wtf

OH MY GOD

ABSOLUTELY BTFO

He is a little crazy, he consults fortune tellers and wears traditional things for good luck. I think he really believes his own vision rather than just trying to justify his power.

They have popularity in some quarters but it is a minority thing. Heavily restricted in media, the current regime hates them. They only get brought up negatively.

cmon man
we're pretty democratic
it's just that democracy is about 50-100 years behing the west

Tunisia pre-2011

>You think your current political course is build to last and serve you well?
I think it can, We have some massive economic problems to solve but nothing unbearable. Plus we have amazing improvmeennts from a cultural standpoint, tunisian cinema is booming, tunisian authors and musicians finally don't have to leave the country to write what they want.
Plus the EU is supporting us a lot, as much as I hate it's functionment, I think it will do good to us.

Nothing is certain, but I want to stay confident. Actually our main problem is rebuilding our economy, and after that, dealing with the influx of people who'll come back from syria.

Whi's our big name worldwide? Don't you think that'd be the cause of a cottage industry? Well, it is. Crypto-catholic rural teachers' pets turned communist coming out of the woodwork left and right, each sterner, more refined and more morally upright than the last. Slaughter them all, I say.

Why does Tunisia produce so insanely many jihadists?

My personal theory is that the relative secularism in Tunisia makes the muslims more extremist (>tfw no gf reeee, basically). Just my theory.

Wat?

are you talking about the dead old king or the new faggot or some prime minister or something?
I also heard that you go to jail for 0 years for badmouthing king, aren't you afraid?

Their constituency was mostly lower-class, correct? So I guess most of their former supporters have abandoned them for the current regime?

>imprisoned tens of thousands of prostitutes and those who use their services. He also arrests lots of foreigners for this
So is it not safe to go to Thai? Sad!

I'm talking about our Prime Minster, he was head of the army and lead a coup against the democratic government. Then he made up his own council and legislature, and had them vote to make a new constitution and then the new legislature which is full of military officers voted to make him Prime Minister rather than acting-Prime Minister.

>I also heard that you go to jail for 0 years for badmouthing king, aren't you afraid?
I'm not badmouthing the King and this site is not monitored by the government.

Yes and yes.

Pretty sure he's referring to Zizek.

>My personal theory is that the relative secularism in Tunisia makes the muslims more extremist

kinda.

Look, we had a secular dictatorship, so of course when we threw it over, islamists who were exiled (mostly in london, not even memeing) came and presented themselves as the answer, since the problem of the dictatorship was secularism (that's what they say). Also the total absence of political education made a lot of people trust them ("they're pious so we can trust them")

Then after the first elections, the islamist were in power and allowed islamists groups from libya and people from saudi arabia and the muslim brotherhood to come here to do some propaganda.

Lots of poor people, believed in that, they had nothing to lose anyway so they followed them.


Also there is one huge factor that people often forget, we have an open brder agreement with libya since the 80s, so it was easy for tunisian jihadists to travel to syria from there.

> I'm not badmouthing the King and this site is not monitored by the government.
nice answer ;)
thanks

>Our leader writes his own songs which he forces radio to play,
A bit of a larakin with a clear sense of humour.
>he murders journalists who oppose him.
Who happens to also be your typical narcissistic powerful leader.
Bugger.

are the jihadists free to come back with no restrictions? that's gonna be messy, syria is basically the new afghanistan, a kind of harvard for jihadists as trump called it. look at the damage afghan jihadists like bin laden and azzam did, the new syrian jihadist generation will do even worse I think

I was also surprised when I saw the dutch government's travelling advice to Tunisia, the south and border with algeria is basically "don't go in any case" and the rest is "only go when necessary". I thought Tunisia was doing better in these years

Probably. I still have no idea what he meant though, if he's quoting or something else.

>are the jihadists free to come back with no restrictions?
There's aloophole here as there is no law about that.
We had demonstration to forbid them from coming back or putting in jail every one of them who comes back, but no laws regarding that.
Plus I think putting them all in jail can get messy, as some people who might be suspected but never went be emprisonned too

>I thought Tunisia was doing better in these years
We definitely are, but you never know. But from my personal sentiment, I don't think we have more risks of having an attack than france desu.

As for the borders, it's because there's a lot of smuggling which can be dangerous and terrorists hide in libya or algeria


desu, i don't think you risk anything coming over but I might be biased

In the recent past there were 2 terrorist attacks in Tunesia focused on western tourists. One on some resort, the other on a museum.

So democracy is pretty much dead in Thailand now? Thailand is going full China mode ?

Feels good and bad at the same time

agree, thanks for info. will probably visit in the coming years, pretty interested to see it
yeah, this is true

funnily enough morocco is actually one of the few countries outside of the West that is pretty much completely safe according to our government. shocked me a bit

Not only is democracy dead in Thailand, the public cheer it on. Which is the saddest thing I think.

Because Morocco is more or less safe. Safe as in: there's no precedent to not call it safe. It doesn't have the focus of Islamists, doesn't supply a lot of IS fighters (Tunesia is the #1) and to my understanding the king isn't very much fond of Islamic extremism.

t. not Mocro

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Here is an example of the songs he wrote.

Isn't this like ultra-western music?

Just like Philippines then. I guess with the shrunken of western world and rise of PRC which is authoritarian national capitalist at core, this is inevitable for SEA. Even HK has lots of citizens cheering for the governess of Beijing and gradually dying democracy. Perhaps most Asians(including us to some degree) are just not ready for this system.

Not particularly I don't think.

Ask venezuelans or cubans

Finally they fuck up our sextourists.
Bad for our image there and humilating for a country. That they have such a colossal turnup of their societal order is suprising, we heard nothing of it.

Thats neat. For some time it seemed your whole region would go collectivly before the dogs. As long as you dont fall for socialist maymays I dont see how your economy cannot recover as you seemed to not be -that- bad off even when you apparently shot busynesses down for political reasons or family nepotism.

Kek

Visiting Thailand is like the #1 requirement of the pedophile starter pack.

Oh, by the way I was very dumbfounded by the sudden surging affinity China and mainlanders have for Thailand after the coup, now it all makes sense.

Am I counted?

Yes, two years ago, hope this kind of thing won't happen again.

We lately had some small groups crossing the libyan border and attacking military bases near it.


Sure thing, there's a lot of cool roman ruins that will make you wonder what could have been.

If you want leisure though, let's not lie to ourselves, go to morocco, it will be much better quality wise.


It's actually the opposite, the King is sharing power with the islamists, but since they tap everyone, they have really efficient prevention.

Morocco have other problems but I don't want to bash on them rn

Yeah but it was totally destroyed these alst years, but it's slowly building back. Lots of investments are coming, The future is bright ( We need to stay positive)

Anyway I'm off. see you guys, maybe next time you'll tell me about how it is to live in a european dictatorship and not in an african democratic state.
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Our government turned from traditional US ally, overnight into lovers of the PRC. I am not surprised if they suddenly like us.

Didn't they ban the burqa?

Yes, that's what I meant. You can see tonnes of Thailand drama in China's internet these days and lots of them had trips to Thailand these past 2 years. Mianlanders can be very easily controlled by their party that's for sure. Funny enough they like to claim Thai are the most beautiful people among other SEAiasns because they have lots of Chinese blood therefore more white and good-looking.

but it's a dictatorship run for Germany

>Funny enough they like to claim Thai are the most beautiful people among other SEAiasns because they have lots of Chinese blood therefore more white and good-looking.
Thanks to them I guess.

I hope for you he does not consult the fortune tellers on the economy, besides that its at least something that he has a moral standing. Do you trust the clerics of your country and believe they have a soothing influence on the government in some regards?
Guess you have to sit this out now and hope he softly gets away from power some day and does not turn senile and over the top cruel later on. A positive scenario would be something like franco a worse one a Mugabe-like.

please tell me the other problems of Morocco, I like foreign politics and shit

especially since half my cunt is moroccan right now it cant hurt to gain more insight

Clerics are fundamentalist for the most part.

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Compared to past admins he's completing shit at rocket speed.

It's a very huge problem by itself, but is intrinsically linked to government corruption, poverty, unemployment, etc. Most of our politicians are steeped in drugs and Duterte has a track record of at least minimizing their use and trade to near zero.

He's not pro China, nobody is. We're more pro US talking semantics.

Allying with China economically defuses tensions in the area. Shit the US washed their hands off of. Thanks Obama.

>Belarus has a dictator?
Ɓukaszenka, yeah. It's pretty shit.

What has he accomplished beyond the drug crackdown? Also what do you make of the reports that he himself abused fentanyl?

We are poor and shitty. Thats it.

No clue about bhuddist fundamentalism, but thanks for the insight.

This is irony, right?

Better to be ruled by an authoritarian than dipshit Marxists, gays and subhumans

India = democracy (and Marxist)
Hell = democracy (and gay)
China = authoritarian (China is fascist not Marxist)
Heaven = authoritarian

Like this comment if you agree.

your post made no sense

> billions of German tax euros are sent to third-world shitholes like Bulgaria and Poland each year because of the EU
> "hurr durr ze germans rule europe"

Did I say you could reply to me?

>I guess with the shrunken of western world
Uh...Western culture completely dominates the globe now. Traditional and regional cultures are disappearing.

Authoritarianism and communism are not mutually exclusive political structures

>abused fentanyl
It's a prescribed drug for his migraines, he's no spring chicken at 72. Dude works too hard even his supporters tell him to take a day off which never happened with past presidents

Off the top of my head
>renewed alliances with asian neighbors and secured business investments from almost every country
>secured economic alliance and some trillion pesos worth of investments with china
>defused tensions in SCS/WPS
>japan and russia give loaded arms (because US gives us arms with no bullets)
>crippled the drug trade considerably
>cleaning up the senate of the LIBERAL party
>scared the ruling elites and the media out of their shoes that they put their feet in their mouths every time they talk
>made the military and police straighten up
>cleaning the police force of unsavory elements using their authority for personal gain
>cleaned national jails and exposed a lot of drug trade going inside them
>secured funding from various countries for the build, build, build initiative because besides marcos, nobody else was a builder
>scared the terrorists to give it up and their influence has never been smaller in over 50 years of fighting
>the minority tribes of the south now have a voice in a manila-centric government
>highest rating a leader has ever gotten from his constituents, 91% or something along those lines
>plans to revamp public transport with solar power
>keeps renovating roads and bridges nationally
>plans on building several bridges between islands that have heavy traffic
>increased police visibility in every street corner
>stopped power outages by building more coal plants

the SJW and political correctness of the west was small in the first place here in the phil, but they're in danger of vanishing because practically no one gives a shit except the elites and their kids

and this is in a country with 2 women presidents and several gay celebrities

>practically no one gives a shit except the elites and their kids
But nobody gives a shit about fag wedding cake here either except liberal elites. It's a large part of why Hillary Clinton is not the president.

i almost forgot
>scaring the telcos after they vetoed an australian company's entrance into the filipino market that if they don't better their internet, he'll knock their towers down
>gave people hotlines for free nationwide 911 and 8888, a hotline to tell the president which government workers aren't doing their job
>almost every month theres layoffs in the government due to the calls because of corruption, under the tables, etc.
>even his own cabinet isn't safe
>btw the free 911 service was only available in his hometown davao city before becoming president
>now the government reacts right away to affected areas, unlike before. remember typhoon haiyan?

>Perhaps most Asians(including us to some degree) are just not ready for this system

Authoritarianism inevitably happens when a population is too poor/stupid to govern themselves and need to be led around by a khan or an emperor.

>India
>Marxist

???

>they are Muslim.
>innocent civilians

>Italian men

Lol democracy isn't dead in the phil. Don't trust mainstream news.

If anything, it was dead before Duterte sat on the throne. Before him, we just had the illusion of democratic rule.

If Duterte were truly a dictator, you wouldn't be hearing about it everyday on international news about the killings and our own politicians shouting for impeachment

Meanwhile those same politicians lobby for internet monitoring to shut down Duterte supporters that they label "trolls"

Beijing has actively spread propaganda in Asian cunts for decades, because they ultimately believe it's their duty to re-establish China's traditional network of tributary states.

idk, didn't clinton win the popular vote?

based on the media alone, seems like trump is getting bashed every which way for his policies.

>idk, didn't clinton win the popular vote?
Voter fraud and using illegal immigrants to vote.
>based on the media alone, seems like trump is getting bashed every which way for his policies
The media is controlled by far left activists, so it should not be considered a good gauge of anything.

>He banned liberal and democratic values from being discussed, instead he promotes "traditional values of the Thai nation."
wtf I love Thailand now!