Consider the following

>consider the following

Ok, I'm not really into all the conspiracy bullshit or anything, but... isn't it very convenient for Marine Le Pen that all these terrorist attacks escalated during the campaign, literally pushing people towards right-wing?

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so the people she wants to push out of france helped her with her campaign to push those same people out of france

ooooor someone paid someone to make these things happen.

What business ISIS or any other stupid shit have in right-wing politician's success? Why not lay low for a while and let leftists win so they could still operate without a problem?

>Why not lay low for a while and let leftists win so they could still operate without a problem?

That's hard to disagree with

and I know the Occam's razor principle and everything, but if you think about it for a while... would the right-wing politicians pay to make these attack's happen? Or maybe some third party?

Dude, it's not a conspiracy, mudslimes are just like that.

I hope Le Pen wins

terrorist leaders are not fucking stupid - I'd say quite the opposite.

Because ISIS's endgame is to make Muslims look oppressed so they can recruit. You think they just want to kill like 20 people at a time and that's their plan? No, they do that shit to bait us into responding so they can say that we're evil for bombing them and trying to ban Muslims and all that shit.

Make no mistake, Le Pen winning is a win for ISIS.

the people giong for this theory argue that they want chaos, they want to league moderate muslims against the population so that islamism takes over, electinf le pen ould lead to that

exactly this

She's not very right wing on labor and a few other things. She just believes in sovereignty and French cultural identity, which makes her basically a fascist to many westerners. Honestly, I thought the attack would only force the French voters to double down on their open society insanity. Paris doesn't even look like Paris anymore. After the last 30 years of left wing control, it's like it's lost all of its identity: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

I pretty much agree

Those attacks are like christmas present for Le Pen with no gain for ISIS

>violent migrants enter country
>people get sick of it
>politician takes up the cause
>violent migrants carry on being violent
yes OP what you said is the only possible explanation.
250 people have been killed by islamics since 2015 in france

Paris syndrome doesn't have have to do with losing its identity, just that reality crushes the delusional expectations and idyllic representation of paris in eastern culture

This. Couldn't agree more.

I don't claim it's THE explanation. I'm just wondering.

Also - terrorists are well organized and coordinated. I wrote few thesis on terrorism and it's more complex than it looks on the outside.

All the French attacks were run by the intel services out there some with help from Mossad.

Even a child can see this

Man thats tragic. Btw how many people died in Syria since 2015 ?

>Man thats tragic. Btw how many people died in Syria since 2015 ?

kek'd

This is pretty much what currently happens with the French muslims who go to radical islam or ISIS. They feel rejected by society, alone and clueless. Easy prey for manipulators.

Nah, she's just pissy because nobody likes to fuck French women once they've turned 16.

I second this. inteligent answer on Sup Forums is very rare

It's so stupid that this question doesn't get asked more.

This post basically explains what I said in my post It's like the only solution contemporary western voters have is to double down on politicians that take us to war against Muslims for the sake of monetary dominance in the regions. The same politicians that go on and on about our need to sacrifice our identity and open our boarders to these people.

It's like you have no foresight.

I challenge you to talk to a Japanese person and ask them to describe what led to their angst and depression about the city. They will tell you: it's not French anymore. It's covered in trash and looks like a 3rd world country, with some classical and postmodern architecture.

They were expecting an ideal, absolutely. And it's nothing like that anymore.

>people
none

Exactly. And if Le Pen wins, then you have a leader in the country you're living in literally telling you you're not welcome there. It's not going to make the situation better.

This is a very complex issue and there really doesn't seem to be a clear solution to fix shit, but further alienating these people is just going to make shit worse.

youre a fucking idiot. the only good muslim is a dead muslim. deport them or kill them, and youll have no more terrorist attacks

Yes. Muslims extremists want anti muslim sentiment in western countries so they can recruit more. Far right populist leaders are their wet dream.

>Dude, do you think it's some kinda conspiracy that an anti-immigration politician would become popular around the same time mudslime immigrants can't stop murdering people?

No, dipshit. That's literally how politics works.

or it just comes to show that what she's saying makes sense and that the more we wait the more relevant it becomes

Protip: they outnumber us. We can't kill 1.5 billion people. If you declare open war against Islam, they will declare open war against us. You think it's bad when it's just the radicals actively fighting us, wait till you see the body count when we're fighting 1.5 billion pissed off muslims.

couldnt tell you. but seeing as it is a war zone and not a country at peace that let in thousands upon thousands of people fleeing that warzone and northern and western africa i imagine it would be alot

But this goes further - if Le Pen is to make another crumble in the EU, then maybe there's really other political player involved? Russia? Probably too obvious.

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I was joking about something similar today, about how liberals are upset when muslims commit mass murder and acts of terror because it seems to confirm the hatemonger view that muslims do such things. Like, it never occurs to a liberal that maybe the so-called hatemonger might be right.

Precisely. What we need is more tolerance. The regular attacks will just make us strong. When they run us over with a truck, we'll just hose away the remains and go shopping the next day. And we'll hold a vigil there for a week or so, to light candles and etc..

When a Muslim rapes a 10 year old boy, we'll understand that it's just cultural differences and let him go back to his state-funded flat, with his state funded phone. Because we don't want to hurt the feelings of Muslims... t-they may attack us or join a bad group if we don't

They're gonna kill you if you welcome them, they're gonna kill you if you don't.

The only way to convince them to not kill you is to convert to Islam. They might still kill you then, but it is less likely.

>No, dipshit. That's literally how politics works.

Terrorists are organized and can plan ahead too. Thinking that an organization that can fuck up a whole country and play two major players (USA and Russia) do unplanned, reckless moves is retarded.

Yeah sure, that's what a japanese would tell me, maybe it got worse but for exemple, Pigalle can be nice but the surroundings has always been shitty, this is not a nowadays issue

This is the most cancerous faggotry you see these days: "Teach muslim extremists s a lesson by electing feckless, weak, ineffective multiculturalists. That'll show 'em."

So why not just vote for a politician that doesn't like these bullshit wars (like La Pen) or a politician who is against importing double digit IQ Muslims en masse (like La Pen)?

No, that's stupid too. Like I said, there isn't really a clear solution, but it seems like what we need to do is empower the moderates and win them over so they'll reject the radicals. Blind tolerance won't accomplish that, but populism and hatred will lead to endless war.

Those are literally the only two options: endless war or try to find a way to establish peace. That's all we got. Killing every last one of them is not a viable option.

why should anyone care about another country's civil war?

no, the french are too stupid and the country is too far gone to immigrants who hate europe. they will keep voting for their cucked failed socialist faggots to get free handouts and bring more muslimbros into the country

the police actually caught 2 guys with an arsenal and bombs just a week ago who were planning an attack on the voting day. the terrorists just want to make a political statement, they dont give a shit who wins the presidency, if its not some mohammad who advocates for sharia law sitting in presidential desk they are going to blow shit up every election

Because then you radicalize the ones who are already there and give ISIS more recruitment tools.

>maybe it got worse
>maybe

>

not even close retards

leftist answer: we can't beat all these muslims, let's let them all in our country.

What's your solution, then?

Hey, you want a nice conspiracy ?
How comes Putin wanted Trump for America, knowing that Trump doesn't like the EU ?
How comes Putin and right wing anti europe parties are friend ?
You don't see what is happening ?

Russians will make EU collapse and dissolve so that they can invade it like in the good old days...

Also I'm seriously considering Russia or USA are behind Daesh

can't see many muslims there

>conspiracy bullshit
Not bullshit. All political parties are by their nature conspiracies. Don't let them bully you with all their "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" nonsense. All politicians lie. And they lie in consort.

maybe someone should teach america how war is supposed to work. You invade a country and take control, but they just invade and then run away leaving chaos to ensue..

>he can't into irony

Well, I didn't expect much from Sup Forums tbh.

>but populism and hatred will lead to endless war

Who hates Muslims? I don't. That's not to say we don't have an identity and culture of our own, and wish to preserve it. That's not hatred, that's sanity.

You don't understand what nationalism is and you're scared of it. I understand that fear. But it's irrational at this point.

as stupid as it sounds, it kinda makes sense

Pretty easy: immigration policy should encourage only immigrants who share/accept the values of the host country, and assimilation should be enforced: language, dress, etc.

We have too many Americans who want America to lose.

Yeah i get you point, but actually the inscriptions were there initially to support attacks victim, yeah this a shit idea i know, but as far as what i'e seen, the statue is clean back since summer

Ok, then where do all the Muslims go? They don't just vanish into thin air when you tell them you can't come here.

I think Marine Le Pen may be France's only hope at this stage, many years ago we saw what an extreme far right movement did to europe, i fear if she isn't elected then we will see what an extreme left wing movement will do to europe.

Gleichschaltung macht frei.

they don't invade to take the wealth of the country they invaded, they do it to steal the wealth of america for them and their friends. I don't think it's about winning or losing, it's just about $$$$$$

If they get a few more recruits, I don't mind. The west can wipe them off the face of the earth.

If you're that mentally fragile that a people standing for their identity and culture hurts you bad enough to want to kill them, you really have no place in western civilization tbh.

>he thinks people paint graffiti in broad daylight

Go to Paris, you'll see plenty.

there has been attacks since several years, and it wasn't election time. This is bullshit.

Do not care. No country is obligated to take in immigrants it doesn't want.
Yes, Nazis were all about encouraging the assimilation of foreign peoples into the German mainstream. Great point.

Actually Marine Le Pen is always telling to French Muslims that they're as French as White Catholic French people.
I won't vote for her on the first round, but if Melenchon isn't in the second round, my vote goes for her

Yes. I suspect ISIS wants ger to win, to hasten the civilizational war they think will bring the end of days and final victory of Islam. They have pretty specific prophecies regarding battles in Syria and against "the Franks."

Maybe, but no country in the West has the confidence to simply say "fuck these savages, they need to be civilized." And cultural relativism guts any attempt to do so.

then you must be all for Isis, most of their victims are muslim.

Teach ISIS a lesson: elect a feckless multiculturalist with a soft noodle spine.

yeah but they are more frequent and get even more press coverage due to political campaign

Easy you goof ass back home and fight for their land and country like the USA had to do. No one helps the greatest country in the world.

Real question is :
Will Trump enter in total war with sandniggers and nuke them ?

is your pic supposed to be ironic ? there wasn't just one death camp, there's no reason for the number to be unique in the world

what is wrong with trash being in the dumpster?

Because our governments are responsible for inciting and supplying the rebellion in Syria that has led to the refugee crisis. Syria is our work.

It's not about a fountain m8. It's the normalization of terrorism, the normalization of 3rd world behavior. Paris is no longer French.

This is pretty much it, they are playing the jewcard.

>he thinks people paint graffiti in broad daylight

The writings were to support attack victims (pretty stupid). I've been to Paris, many muslims as well as many other nations.

ok, i agree on this point, but what do you propose ?

You are literally retarded. ISIS wants the right wing populists to win, so that they can push the narrative that Europeans hate Islam. This will draw moderate Muslims towards the extreme jihadist ideology.

Real issue is : why not one media asks why Fillon gave so much money to his wife under a false pretext ?
Fact : there were rumors that fillon had some affairs with men for years.
Fact : the money he gave his wife was half their total fortune.
What happen : his wife found out about the affairs with young men, she wanted to divorce, so to not ruin his carrier, he offer her the money she would have own with a divorce, she can live the big life in their manor, but she has to play the good and silent housewife.

dude... read again what I wrote. It's fucking sarcasm.

Kinda makes sense I wonder why Putin Banned Jehovas witnesses and confiscated all their properties, also banned the bibles and magazines they have, he started calling them extremists.
Probably they used to woke him up as a kid knocking at his door or something.

>there were rumors that fillon had some affairs with men for years.
This is a stupid thing to be concerned about.

You faggots always say that. EVERY problem in the world is "our" fault. But you never mean you. You mean everyone else but you.

Foreign peoples are reduced to the status of animals, puppets, and bit players in the historical theater of your imagination; marionettes dancing at the end of western strings while you self righteously "tut tut" about it.

Dumb faggots swore that Saddam Hussein was installed into power by the US; not because it was true (it's laughably false) but because then the dumb faggots in question could cry about it and pretend to be superior.

Protip: most of the third world is savage and corrupt because the people who live there are savage and corrupt. Go there sometime.

I know. Another attack. More victims. More vigils. More "support".

Enough.

That we give sovereignty a chance and not jump into more regime change wars, for a change. That's why I support La Pen, aside from her stance on labor rights.

>facts
>rumors
pick one faggot

Also, macron is the gay one according to the rumors
and Fact ; he's fucking his ex teacher, who is ten years older than him at least

ISIS wants conflict. Wasted quads

nope

K

>I'm not really into all the conspiracy bullshit or anything

apparently you are

Do you mean that Western governments aren't supplying the so-called "moderate" opposition?

>Protip: most of the third world is savage and corrupt because the people who live there are savage and corrupt.

Unironically made me think.

Not really. Usually I laugh my ass off when I hear such bullshit.

Obama really fucked up on that one, he didnt count on you cannot Mossad gas them the Assad.
meanwhile im not sure what the hell is Trump doing besides losing the Armada he sent to south korea, now south korea is pissed.

I think he worked with the cia
also ghadaffi, Osama Bin Laden, the guy that is president of Venezuela right now starving his people.

>now south korea is pissed.
Really? Because the South Korean newspapers are celebrating his tough stance.

i dont disagree, but i dont think its a bad thing either.