I know this isn't Sup Forums music and I hate to be the guy to bring up normie shit, but I'm fascinated by her career at the moment. What is she going for? Shes being very pretentious about her music, calling it "pop with a purpose" and such yet the lyrics to every single after Chained To The Rhythm (which bombed) hasn' not fit that description in the slightest. She said she didn't want to be "rolling around in cotton candy anymore" yet her latest video is in the exact same vein. Did "woke" Katy's Chained To The Rhythm flop so bad they wanted to return to what worked?
Shes also way late to stealing black culture, which Miley already did and has since comeback from.
Not to mention she is under a lot of fire for using the N word and just being problematic in general.
Also the feud with Taylor Swift. That had TayTay send in Selena Gomez to steal her man.
PLUS she once said she would only cut her hair if she had a breakdown like Britney did. Is a breakdown imminent?
she flipped the fuck out on election night when Trump won and has remained in tantrum mode ever since, but she's like the biggest pop star of the decade so of course she's caught in a creative cul-de-sac, the label wouldn't have it any other way but safe
Angel Phillips
pop star fatigue
Jace Moore
she's 30 and was only popular for looking like the hot girl next door, the zooey deschanel archetype. she either has to try to reinvent herself or it's over.
Eli Rogers
She's been wearing wigs for years, so I wouldn't be surprised if she had short hair for a long time. Being a gross nigger loving skank is just the cliche thing for pop stars to do when their career goes south. The "controversy" gets people talking and watching. That's all this is. It's not that interesting or surprising really.
Lincoln Bennett
>was only popular for looking like the hot girl next door, the zooey deschanel archetype Had to be more than just that. She tied MJ's record for most No. 1s on an album. People were digging the songs.
Dominic Hall
She's trying to be intellectual and political with her music but since she doesn't know shit, it hasn't worked. Plus she's had some pretty conflicting opinions on things such as opposing racism but then making fairly racist comments, so she's not even that dedicated to the beliefs she claims to have.
Her normie fans are confused and over her and anyone who knows anything can see she's just a pseudo intellectual trying to be "deep".
So she's going back to regular pop to stay in the spotlight.
Gavin Myers
she's hanging around with black people
minaj, migos
obviously she's going down that miley ratchet pussy route
Elijah Wilson
it's because they picture her when they listen to them. she was hot so men thought she wanted fuck them, but not like like an unobtainable model, so white teenage girls (the most important demographic in music) didn't feel intimidated and pictured themselves as her.
Lucas Nelson
She knows her career is dying.
It's the curse of all 30 year old female pop artists, she has already been replaced by a younger version of herself. >thinking that she decides who gets a feature on one of "her" songs
Wyatt Cruz
Who's the new Katy Perry? I honestly don't know who's current in anything anymore.
Nolan Richardson
Regardless of who's behind it, that pussy is still turning ratchet..
Luis Brooks
Selena Gomez I guess.
If there isn't one then there will be one is a few months, but female pop music is dying in general so I don't know what's going to happen.
Jonathan Perry
And she dressed quirky but didnt looked like a cum dupmster freak like lady gaga (who aimed at hysterical girls and faggots)
Jason Flores
She's 32, it's already been ratched for more than two years
Mason Morales
Boy bands might make a comeback but I doubt it. Maybe girl bands?
Joseph Roberts
halsey. we left the basic bitch era of pop music, went to 80s revival era #271, no we are firmly in the thot era.
Robert Bailey
One Direction was the only Boyband in the last few years and even they died, just like Fifth Haromy. People generally stopped listening to what's popular.
Mason Long
also adding this Selena Gomez is prime thot music material. She's even hispanic. >Maybe girl bands? that ended last year
Luke Thompson
unlike gaga she doesn't have a strong core fanbase and can't perform so she literally has nothing to fall back on
won't be missed
Evan Perez
>female pop music is dying in general so I don't know what's going to happen. Huh? There two girl pop groups that are pretty big right now.
"tumblr" is the current look of all the hot female pop acts. Halsey and her clones all look, act and sound the same. "alt girl" voice with edm/hiphop inspired beats.
Lincoln Diaz
Just as Nicki Minaj was a straight up copy of Katy Perry when her style was fashionable (dressing up quirky and shit) now its the other way arround ("woke-blackexellence-onfleek-trap-blackculture" is now in) and that obviously affects her music. Also female popstars are market products of a giant industry before anything and they need to keep their brand fresh and relevant "reinventing" themselves (some music critic talked about Madonna as "pop fascism" because her music kinda sucked compared to other contemporary singers but her image and persona is what captivated the listeners)
Ayden Moore
do you always project this much
Caleb Allen
Lady Gaga has been the only good mainstream, non-indie female pop artist of the past 10 years.
Dylan Cox
Female pop music is dying, it's over roasties.
Male Pop, Rock and Rap is on the rise.
Aiden Cruz
All gimmick and all "wow look how weird I am". Take that shit away and her music is the same as any other female pop star of the last 10 years, Katy Perry included.
Jeremiah Jackson
>tumblr" is the current look of all the hot female pop acts. sorta. it was starting to go that way, but now it's switched to alt normie thots. that's why justin bieber, the king of thots, can bring any song to the top 10. >"alt girl" voice with edm/hiphop inspired beats. that, justin bieber, anything that appeals to their daddy issues and the chainsmokers are what make up thot-core.
Eli Evans
Normie music normie political platitude opinions
Ayden Rogers
She killed her career by trying to cash out on faggots, LOL!
David Allen
how is recognizing marketing projecting? you think she crafted her own image? there's a reason she went from Christian pop rock to Bon Appetit
Daniel Brown
True but shes easily made the best music out of all recent pop stars.
Blake Murphy
her voice gives me a headache. all of the songs i've heard from her last album were annoying. she's at her best when she makes the most soulless shit possible
Carson Anderson
>basic bitch era It's called Slutwave™, you dumb little shit.
Nathan Smith
she's actually the only pop starlet that could engage an audience with just an instrument and her voice if required... the others around her success level are all utterly fucked if the power goes out.
Tyler Ward
are you dumb fags are the most loyal fans. no other pop star is gonna sell 200k first week without a top 10 single
Ayden Butler
>it's because they picture her when they listen to them. she was hot so men thought she wanted fuck them, but not like like an unobtainable model, so white teenage girls (the most important demographic in music) didn't feel intimidated and pictured themselves as her. this isnt recognizing marketing, its porly written rambling electro influenced pop sells better than christian rock? who knew fucko
Hunter Price
basic bitch era was from post "in the club" era, to 1989 dropping. it was when indie pop/rock could chart and the fault in our stars movie was released
Blake Lewis
I've heard Taylor Swift stole a few members of her team.
it's poorly written, i still think that was what their intentions were with her image. what's your interpretation?
Benjamin Moore
The demon that was possessing Miley Cyrus was exorcised and possessed Katy Perry instead.
Joshua Torres
>Slutwave is a pejorative applied as if it were a musical genre to female pop music stars which emerged in the late 2000s. Houston Press describes the genre as female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music." Slutwave started in the 1980s with fucking Madonna.
Thomas Rivera
slutwave is incorporated in the basic bitch era. basic bitch also included the neighborhood, the lumineers, and the arctic monkeys.
Matthew Cooper
reddit reposts
Gavin Foster
>Madonna Idiot. >the neighborhood, the lumineers, and the arctic monkeys Shut up, you dumb little shit. When your "basic bitch era" gets a wiki you can speak again.
Ethan Gonzalez
>female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music. All of that applies to Madonna's entire career, you retard. She's always been a provocateur to cover for her lack of talent.
madonna is basically the OG genre and trend vampire
Charles Bennett
my interpretation is that you arent too far off but spend too much time obsessing over detail to remember the actual music generic or not she and her team has been following trends well
Andrew Foster
I'm just excited we might have a chance to finally see her tits in the near future.
Easton Gutierrez
i'm describing a time period not a genre you faggot. call it whatever you want, but i find "basic bitch" accurate because it describes the target audience well, and it's a dated phrase from that era.
Kevin Brooks
I love Katy so I'm against a full on breakdown, desu.
Benjamin Green
i just focus on those points to emphasize what their goals were with her image. her image was one of the most geniusly crafted. only thing that comes close in recent times is miley and swift
Nolan Allen
>which emerged in the late 2000s You can shut up too, idiot. We're talking about a date specific phenomena in pop culture, not cherry picking examples from earlier time periods that might fit the basic description. >but i find You need me to tell you again? Shut the fuck up, moron. No one gives a shit about some retarded term you made up because you're stupid.
Isaac Morgan
>are you dumb fags are the most loyal fans. LOL! No.
Pandering towards gays makes your straight fan abandon which will kill your career no matter what.
Straight people will always make up the majority of the fanbase of all artist that make accessible music and not all gay people like pop music.
And gays aren't loyal at all.
Jose Reed
how embarrassing, it's like mileys mom performing we can't stop
Christian Richardson
I love Katy too, user. But I REALLY want to see those fucking things.
Evan Hill
JUST
Jace Clark
>tfw Paramore swooped in to save the day for pop as soon as Katy stated going haywire
Parker Reyes
she build her career on cashing out on faggots duh (and it works because it was grounded on a legit empathy towards LBGT peeps anyway)
Jacob Price
>caring this much about what to name 2011-2014 in pop music call it whatever you want faggot. call it 2011-2014. it doesn't fucking matter you spastic
Adam Mitchell
>wanna see some saggy veiny +30yo tits ok dad
Jaxson Rodriguez
She didn't, her first two album weren't blatantly gay oriented and they were successful, that's what build her career. It all went downhill by Born This Way, a very gay oriented album by "mere coincides"
Aaron Foster
apologize
Asher Flores
Madonna? Cher? Barbara Streisand?
you ok?
Sebastian Stewart
>which emerged in the late 2000s Madonna is proof that it didn't emerge in the late 2000s and that it isn't a date-specific phenomena.
>not cherry picking examples from earlier time periods that might fit the basic description. Madonna fits the description to a fucking T and is the progenitor of all of the current supposed "slutwave" artists.
Madonna is the original slutwave musical performer.
William Powell
>Without a single and without marketing, I’m not drawing on hetero males as a core audience. But thank God for the gays! My homos — they stick by me through thick and thin. Courtney Love said this in a interview like...it's common sense
Andrew Howard
And where is Courtney Love today? Exactly.
Adrian Lee
>generic top 40 plebe music >supported Hillary Clinton >made "woke" pop music, alienating half the country, and making anyone who actually knows shit about politics cringe >made a video acting like a giant slut while surrounded by niggers, lost the pol audience, acting like a giant coal burner whore alienates white men and black women, stop doing this. >seems kind of desperate, whole slut act was stolen from miley and she doesnt look good with short hair >is reaching the age whee pop stars get sent to the farm far away where they get to play with the other pop stars of yore and are replaced by a younger, better looking product, i mean pop star
On another note, i feel like female pop music is dying, there is clear trend and rise of male pop music and rappers topping the chart. EDM guys, rappers, and pop folk faggots like sherran. There also seems to be room for really awful soft rock like maroon five, and imagine dragons. Or like 21 pilots.
lol Then what are you arguing about, retard? The phenomena is date specific and doesn't include Madonna, hence why you're reduced to describing her as a "progenitor" and admitting to her being separate from said "date specific phenomena". You don't have an argument.
Michael Butler
>anyone who actually knows shit about politics so not you or any other polfags
Austin Reyes
Marketing executives cottoned on to people not giving a shit about mileys antics anymore so they substituted her out with perry while miley trying to make pop-"country" again .
Jeremiah Carter
i was saying that you can't call 2011-2014 pop music in general "slutwave" because most pop at the time wasn't that. you could call the whole era slutwave, and that's retarded so I'm sure you do. i gave my reason for why I personally call it the "basic bitch era" and that has to do with the audience and the time frame. giving these stupid time frames names is the only way to get retards like you to notice cultural trends and shifts in audiences.
Ethan Garcia
You cant be woke if you support clinton, being mainstream woke would have been like being a bernie bro. Being actually woke would be demanding full communism now
Cameron Nelson
>Shes being very pretentious about her music, calling it "pop with a purpose" and such yet the lyrics to every single after Chained To The Rhythm (which bombed) hasn' not fit that description in the slightest.
Well, yeah. You're surprised this whore's product is saying anything beyond "follow your desire / look at my hot body" ?
Blake Garcia
>bernie being even the slightest bit "woke" >Being actually woke would be demanding full communism now im sure it would be levi
Mason Martinez
>you can't call 2011-2014 pop music in general "slutwave" No one did that, you fucking idiot. You just outed yourself as a complete fucking retard.
Now shut the fuck up.
Aaron Reed
bernie was a socialist, clinton was a neoliberal on the leftwing scale of wokeness bernie wins
Joseph Green
OwO what's this?
Elijah Morris
>The phenomena is date specific Except it isn't since Madonna was doing everything these slutwave artists are doing now in the 1980s.
>hence why you're reduced to describing her as a "progenitor" and admitting to her being separate No, I'm saying she's the progenitor because the she was literally the first fucking slutwave artist. The slutwave artist that all other slutwave artists have followed since the 1980s.
You have no argument. Your position is saying "NUH UH THAT DOESN'T COUNT" when presented with contradictory information.
Jason Brown
>implying left wing is woke
Chase Cooper
The question is when is rhianna going to finally fuck off
Samuel Sullivan
courtney love didn't base her career around gays????????? the point is when she goes on tour (despite having nothing to promote) gays are the ones who go to see her. and career wise she's by far the most relevant 90s alt rock girl, she's doing acting shit right now so either way you're wrong
what is there not to understand. good job dodging madonna, cher and babs btw
Oliver Powell
You tried to make some retarded shit up and I corrected you because you're a retard. Katy Perry is a Slutwave artist. >Madonna was doing >was In other words separated by time. Too bad for you the phenomena is date specific or you'd have an actual argument. Better luck next time, idiot.
Nathaniel Kelly
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Jack Sanders
Is Rihanna the only woman that doesnt gonna go low as those degenerates??????????????????
Dominic Gray
she has nice feet I have probably sploodged to them several times that is all that matters
Jaxson Perez
She's not slutwave though.
Leo Jackson
>Tay gets a number 2 in 2017 >Katy barely breaks the top 10 Tay wins again baby
Julian Jenkins
>In other words separated by time. So according to your logic, Miley Cyrus is not slutwave? After all, she was heavy into slutwave activities but since she's not anymore that must mean she's not slutwave and has never been slutwave, right? Just trying to see how many mental hoops you want to jump through here.
Madonna was doing slutwave before slutwave had the name slutwave and she still does slutwave. For almost 35 years she's been slutwave.
Evan Gray
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slutwave >which emerged in the late 2000s. When you can come up with an actual argument let me know.
Brayden Roberts
>a genre some guy from a magazine made up that no one has used in half a decade is a real genre what are the musical characteristics that define slutwave then? Electropop with explicitly sexual lyrics and imagery from the late 2000s-early 2010s? is bjork slutwave? i also just said she was from that era. i didnt say what genre of music she made. i was describing the time period.
Jack Young
>i was describing the time period. Yes, you're a retard. We get it already. You admit to it. Move along now.
Liam Rivera
>female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music. So, Madonna. Timeframe is irrelevant.
When you can come up with an actual rebuttal, let me know. Methinks you're just a butthurt Madge fan that can't handle the truth.
Carson Bell
you can't read dummy? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slutwave >Houston Press describes the genre as female musicians who "favor sex appeal – suggestive dancing, scant clothing, explicit lyrics – to promote their career over their actual music."
Joseph Moore
Hole was the most successful female fronted rock band in american history, she was very important to female rock even if everyone despise her.
Only rock, folk, and rap music are allowed to be political. Pop music is about being happy, lowest common denominator. No one wants to hear katy perry be woke, they want her to shut the fuck up and shake her titties and sing about lolipops.
Asher Rodriguez
See >>which emerged in the late 2000s. I guess we're going to just go around and around in circles now because you lost the argument.
Luis Edwards
>Hole was the most successful female fronted rock band in american history No they weren't, and they only had that popularity because of her boyfriend rather than their music
William Cox
how many platinum records (without john) does yoko have again?
Josiah Peterson
The only musical attribute they describe is the lyrics and gender of the musicians you aspie. Is that all you need to be slutwave? nigga just kill yourself if you can't argue past posting wikipedia links and using the same 3 of insults.
