So, here's the deal. I am making """music""" for about four years now, made few releases which are either pure garbage or totally unlistenable (pick you own medicine). Lately I been feeling like shit and basically thought of not making music again as I believe I am truly a talentless hack. However the problem I've stumbled upon recently is that if I don't make music then I'm feeling close to suicidal since I have nothing else to do in my life.
What to do Sup Forumsboyz? Outside of kys, fuck yursulf and other shit like that? Should I go on with this crap or should I quit it and, if so, what to do next?
Ask questions if you need more shit info about me.
continue to make music, don't have the expectation that it'll ever lead anywhere. even if you weren't shit there's like a 0.001% chance it would turn into a career or anything.
Jaxon Butler
keep going.
Blake Nguyen
You should be glad you can actually make music, even if it's bad. I've been playing guitar and bass for like 15 years and I've only written 2 songs, people tell me they're good but I can't imagine myself creating a whole album
Sebastian Morris
The question is - why? For sake of making art? Even though with each new release you feel like shit more and more?
Also: >don't have the expectation that it'll ever lead anywhere That's my no. 1 problem though
Brandon Perry
I see your point. Although at times I believe that there are people who deserve more grace than me in that regard so, you know
Levi Gutierrez
>if I don't make music then I'm feeling close to suicidal since I have nothing else to do in my life. Stop being so existential about it, if it makes you not feel that way even a little bit it's worth it.
Also it will never lead anywhere if you expect it to, unless you have connections it will only happen organically.
Chase Scott
link us to your music it can't be too terrible
Jordan Richardson
>if I don't make music I feel like killing myself >why should I keep making music? Hmm, I wonder.
Christian Walker
I fucked up in this same regard OP. I only wanted to play Joe Satriani tier guitar and instead of having my parents buy me a turntable or learning FL like the kids who mysteriously knew what adulthood entailed before entering adulthood I tried to carve out gestalts of crappy Bach translations and Fahey's christmas music and now I'm past the 10,000 hour mark and all I have are friends pretending to be overly-impressed mothers asking, "did you do this??" understanding how weird it is to be good but not good enough.
your human voice will always make your music worth hearing. Too bad only so many musicians will take that cue
Gavin Harris
I suppose. The fact that I can't feel existential about or having fun with music is the fact that, well, I kinda feel like I should be somewhere else, you know? Not way up here but at least somewhere else. Not in the same place like four years ago. The lack of any progress is kind of ridiculous which makes me wonder at times.
Are you even ready for terrible BC ambient? epiglottis.bandcamp.com/album/removal I put this out few months ago so. And it's by far the shortest things I've done (citation needed)
Well, I didn't said that second option is something I don't consider. Even though it makes me healthy that doesn't necessary mean I'm not taking poison. Plus I'm quite afraid of this question coming back again and again.
> crappy Bach translations and Fahey's christmas music >FL >pretending friends I feel you man
Jonathan Edwards
Do you like making music? If yes, keep doing it, if not, stop. I'm horrible at making music but that didn't stop me from releasing 12 albums in a single year. Albeit,they were all terrible, but I enjoyed doing it.
Christian Wilson
That's the problem. I don't really like making as much as I used to but also I hate not making music.
Jose Young
Keep going. It's gonna get better
Nathan Young
Υou could try taking a break for some months or more If you really liked this it will come back to you
Zachary Gonzalez
That idea would be great. However I've done few "escapes" from music lasting at most to half a year. I even canceled my previous projects and removed everything from BC related to it. I always seems to come back to music in general. But that's working only temporarily for me.
Oliver Barnes
keep doing it, even for yourself. You could even find that one thing which is fun to make and which sounds good too
Hey Jakub You can also try experimenting with other genres. The ambient stuff I eard from the BC you posted are not really unlistenable or hard to the ear but ambient can only gather so much interest.
Michael Gutierrez
Ayy! I released something new which is not ambient. Well, okay, it has some ambient elements. epiglottis.bandcamp.com/album/niezapominajka-very-raw-demo In regards to ambient being small - I totally agree. But that's the only genre I feel capable of making anything with some sort of freaking backbone behind it. I do suck at string instruments and singing (wink wink, new stuff) and at times I have an crappy rhythm so the possible roads are quite limited for me.
Tyler Taylor
dude youre in the weeds with it to even have releases out / a career ive been making music almost every day for years and the only things ive finished are a handful of simple 2-3 minute songs that dont have lyrics or go anywhere. trust me my aspirations lie beyond making a couple of songs every 3 years. i keep at it though because i trust myself in completing more things once my outside life is better and i am in a better place mentally. despite how shit it feels you will make progress the more you work at it. you have already made a lot.
Luis Bailey
>I do suck at string instruments and singing (wink wink, new stuff) and at times I have an crappy rhythm These are literally the prerequisites for making folk-punk
Oliver Lopez
I mean, you are correct. But quantity doesn't mean it's quality work, you know? I would kill for making few songs for few years if it meant that I could be doing something else in the meantime. But sucking at practically everything feels like a donkey's anus over a face.
kek
Jesus, I'm so fucking skeptic today. Sorry guys if any of you feel negative because of my whining
Andrew Evans
Keep doing it user, your ambient looks pretty nice.
Maybe you should try making something a bit more upbeat? If you don't feel comfortable with your voice you could ask a friend or something.
I'll be honest with you, what you do is nice, but it's a little depressing IMO. Don't mean to offend you, but I think making a lighter album would help. And if you don't know how to, well, I say you contribute to those Sup Forums albums and have a laugh at least.
If something your album arts are really good lol.
Ayden Green
This He shoudl try making some indie-folk punk or whatever, scratching an acoustic guitar and shouting angrily in Polish I guarantee he would have the fun of his life
Julian Cruz
You're too kind user!
Making something upbeat would be however a disaster. I don't really feel comfortable with making "happy", jump-y stuff. It's nothing wrong with the music itself just of a kind of a character I am. Whenever I try to make something for the laughs I seriously consider just removing it from the existence tbqh.
A little depressing isn't a bad thing to me. I am in that sort of mentality daily so making happy music, again, would be a bit out of my character. That doesn't mean that I don't enjoy happy music but I just couldn't find myself something happy, you know?
I made a song about a goat fucker from Texas one time for a friend. I don't say I'm happy with it. It's been erased so long ago. Also, I think that should be crucial for this thing - I don't really like parody/meme-filled records. Some people I know make that kind of music, putting some random BC accounts and making songs titles a'la "MEME420XDLOZFUNFUCK_XXX" and I just find them utter atrocious.
Anthony Cooper
Also, maybe learning some music theory or doing some covers will help you.
Here, I'll leave you some interesting channels so you can fall in love with music again:
I think I've heard that band before, thanks for suggestion! It seems like this direction would require more manpower and/or skill which I don't really have at the moment. Plus prog rock ain't for me sadly. But I would go balls deep on this like five years ago. The piano parts are pleasant though. I wouldn't possibly make them happen but hey, they indeed create a nice vibe to the track!
What's success for you though? For me people like Hecker, Grouper, Basinski have a very successful careers. Sure, it might not be wild but people wait for their records, they play shows semi-regularly.
Ryder Jenkins
Maybe you don't really like making music and you just crave the idea of validation by crowds and view counters.
Angel Young
Maybe. Maybe not. By this point I don't even know anymore. I extremely like music as a way of self-representation and as an idea of presenting myself in one light or another. I don't care about money and such although that would be some form of showing that what I'm doing has an actual value. But the same could be applied to me cooking myself a dish so I don't know. I'm just very confused atm.
Tyler Reed
I dunno man, play open mics or something and just meet cool people. There's a lot of great artists disguised in business suits and tradesmen uniforms.
Eli Butler
That's something worth considering, thank you!
Caleb Jones
eat a dick, how about that faggot?
Brayden Allen
If you can't be satisfied making music with no expectation of success or attention, don't bother. The creative process is basically the same at any level of fame or success. Money and adoration aren't really gratifying either.
Mason Clark
I don't know anymore really, it's all a big ruckus. What I can say however is that "fame" and money is secondary. Not a goal even. But the current perspective I have makes even primary things i.e. things that should make me just satisfy with making sounds and releasing them quite aren't making me happy.
Ruckus, I tell ya. I think I lost some balls on the way here lol
