Sup Forums consensus?

Sup Forums hates everything. Especially everything.

What are the films that Sup Forums has at least a 90% positive consensus?

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Shawshank Redemption

Goodfellas

Sup Forums loves Michael Mann. He's absolutely patrician and you should watch this film.

It's like a messy TV episode.

Miami Vice is ton better

The biggest gripe I had with it is the good guy won. Not very realistic

I never understood why Shawshank redemption is considered one of the best movies ever? I don't mean that I didn't like it, I just saw it as 'average'. I understand why movies like the godfather, the departed, forrest gump, etc. are good.

So, can anyone explain why they liked it?

Is there a more perfect film than Groundhog Day?

Nope, I could just watch it again and again and again

I don't like Heat.

I don't like most Michael Mann films.

I think he's a shitty conceptualist.

>Finds interesting real life story about armed robbery gang and the cop who chased them for ages in the 70's/80's in Chicago

>Turns into it into a slick, Bruckheimer like production with bank robberies, GQ styling, and a po faced script that has the length and breadth of a serious crime epic despite having the depth of a dumb action movie

That said;

>Positive consensus

All personal objections aside to his taste, up to the 2000's you couldn't completely fault his direction. There are individual scenes in Heat as well executed as anything else the genre has to offer. He used to be a top flight, A list technical craftsman - So I guess there's enough there that I can't say my opinion of it is overly negative.

Also, Heat probably does rank as one of the best remakes of all time. So there's that.

Burn After Reading

Perfect script. Perfect casting and performances. Perfect directing.

Very crowd pleasing themes.

I guess I could see people viewing it as pretty rote though.

I know Ebert's initial reaction was "well, it's very well made." but later after repeat viewings he said it was one of the best films ever made.

damn bro you've got really shit taste

It peaked half an hour before the ending. Everything after Tim Robbins escapes was bullshit.

Is there a more perfect film than Groundhog Day?

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Alien is pure Sup Forums love

Kekked hard

Too much crammed, horrible Pacino sub-plot of being a cuckold, really edgy and laughable Waingro IM THE DEVIL shit, too cheesy and in its own ass.

his film Miami Vice would actually be interesting and devoid of this retarded misguided worship

This is the only film Sup Forums universally likes.

>After Tim Robbins' escape

>half an hour

It was literally like 10 minutes and it was a happy ending

OP here. Groundhogs might be my favorite movie! Used to watch the VHS on my Dads boat. Still watch it every winter.

Was disheartening to learn that this was the film that caused the separation of Bill Murray and Harold Ramis.

Primer is the epitome of pseudo-intellectual films

> Nuh uh, you just didn't understand it because you're not smart enough to overlook the blatant paradoxes

Is there a more perfect film than Groundhog Day?

You remember it as being 10 minutes because it could have been completely wrapped up in 10 minutes very easily, complete with Morgan Freeman's parole and the warden offing himself. Go watch it again, and you'll see it dragged out.

The half hour leading up to his escape was awesome, though

AHX sucks ass. It can't make up its mind

>Hate is baggage

>Nigger breaks some shit

>Don't hate

>Niggers jump some white guys

>Better angels of our nature

>Nigger shoots Danny in chest for standing up for another white kid

Hahaha 13 years ago my roommate screwed me out of a 2 bedroom apartment with all the rent. Didn't have money for anything except rent and shit food. This was one of the DVDs I had. I probably watched this movie 20 times during that stint. A good movie.

The message of AHX is very obvious, and you're deliberately being retarded

Memes aside, how is this movie? It has a 5,4 on imdb that keeps me from watching it.

HOWEVER pearl harbor, armageddon independence day 2 had bad ratings and I enjoyed those movies because they delivered in their own way (despite having some issues)

Very well filmed, with good cinematography.

It gets a lot of shit because Mannplebs who jerk over shit like Heat couldn't understand simple visual storytelling.

Still, bad script and bad actors can't elevate it to a good film, but like any post-insider mann, its worth a look

Is it really?

Is it?

It's fucking horrendously bad.

Insanely bad.

Almost comically bad cinematography on top of just being an utter embarrassing trainwreck of a concept and execution.

Anything made after Mann went digital is unwatchable, the weird framerate triggers me.

So is primer actually good? Haven't seen it yet, but it appears that it's about some guys who invented something and don't know if they should commercialise it.

Do they eventually show or say what the invention is? I fucking hate movies that don't explain important plot parts. Like the rabit's foot in Mission Impossible 3, or what's in the box in se7en. That is just lazy writing.

His use of digital is inspired and he has a very distinct style, ideas, to go through in his films now.

His era starting from Ali up today is his best work.

Consider he deconstructed the dumb fucking romanticized Heat in his later films he also understands it himself.

What a fucking pleb

It's probably the most mindfuckingest movie of all time. They're working on a device to alter the apparent mass of matter but turns out to be a time machine. Carruth has said the name 'Primer' refers to both this device as a catalyst and the main character's complete naivety using it.

It's not the frame rate. He generally shoots at 24 like everyone else.

It's that he often uses an open shutter, and I honestly have no fucking idea why. It's putrid to look at.

hola reddito

It's good. It's a lot of fun.

Just remember that it's a 7,000 dollar movie made by some dude in his backyard.

>It's putrid to look at.
said the fa/tv/irgin, MV, PE, Blackhat all three have his best cinematography.

I thought redditors were into Mann?

He was always an Empire Magazine Reader favorite back in the day.

Se7en was Brad Pitt's wife's head

I haven't seen Primer either. Is it a good'in?

hola reddito

I honestly think they are some of the worst looking movies ever directed by a "real" director. MV and PE gave me eye cancer in the cinema.

Collateral and MV had workable parts during night scenes, and Collateral was at least consistent. MV was a fucking hodge podge mess.

I think he and Mike Figgis should be arrested for digital perversions.

I think Fincher's use of digital is far superior, Mann just comes off as an old man impressed by the freedom his new digital camera gives him, regardless if it's better for the film.

It's damn good. It's one of those that you will always catch or understand something new on repeat viewing.

>MV
>mess.
Consider you praise his plebbiest film it's easy to understand why you can't tell MV is nearly a masterpiece.

The freedom is absolutely fantastic and what he does with it. Fincher does different (not better) type of things with it.

>See Collateral
>"Wow, this looks like fucking shit. Digital sucks"

>See Zodiac, also shot with the Thompson Viper Stream
>"Wow. This looks fucking amazing."

That's when I realized it wasn't digital to blame, just Michael Mann.

>hodge podge mess.
hola reddito

I actually knew this, but it does give the appearance of a faster frame rate, or 'trumotion' for anyone who's unlucky enough to know what that is.

I don't praise any Mann films.

The only ones I can stomach are Ali and The Insider, because he's restrained by having to replicate authentic time periods and not indulge his sub Adrian Lyne aesthetic fetishes.

Seems liek you just failed to understand that they're not trying to go for same things

>catched

Sup Letterboxd.

>Not trying to go for the same things

Mann wants his films to look like poorly made, amateurish video?

Oh, that's right, because he claims it brings a realism to the image. Despite what he's photographing having no real world connection, and the real world not being covered in artifacts, poor resolution.

Is this sort of like the artistic stroke of genius that was "shaky cam"?

How incredibly creative of him.

nice reddit comeback .. kys my man

This has a 90% positive consensus in real life.

I loved Collateral :) Best Tom Cruise villain movie he has

Zodiac does suffer from some pretty nasty noise in the darker scenes, but it helps that it wasn't shot entirely at night with natural lighting.

I actually like its use in Collateral, it's a cool idea and it's watchable even though it would have been impossible with film, but in Miami Vice it's just distracting, it's a $135 million movie and he couldn't throw some lights in there?

It's a style, an aesthetics, like any interesting director would've. It can definitely make things feel intimate and charged, I like it in PE, MV and Blackhat. It can also make very ugly images while making very sensual images.

>Stroke of a genius.
I definitely consider Miami Vice that when I head canon Foxx's character out of the script

Starting from the boat trip and ending to the morning after at Cuba is probably my favorite bit of any Mann film and one of my all time favorites. Such a melancholic string of images and sound.

I'm glad he didn't throw any lights in there. The noise in the dark scenes works.

i prefer thief

Is there a more perfect film than Groundhog Day?

Are there people that didn't like pic related?

We will never again see the likes of it in our time.

>Noise

This is going to be the new "grain".

It's gross.

Is it though?

I don't remember primer trying to be intellectual, the characters are supposed to be smart technology dudes but the movie isn't about demonstrating how smart they are it's about the atmosphere it creates of excitement as they discover stuff and the unsettling tension as the time travel stuff starts to cause problems for them

and idk how a time travel movie is supposed to avoid paradoxes anyway, or why they would want to avoid them

Fine grain is sexy af tho, fine noise if it even exists is still disgusting.

its even better once you realize how obsessed pacinos character is

Everything except the modern family quip.

As if you wouldn't paddy whack the young padawan daughter in her prime, gotta teach her discipline.

I'm sure it can be used well.

But in general it's just ugmo.

Nothing worse than night scenes in the 80's being ruined by grain, and noise is even uglier.

If you're going for a specific aesthetic fair enough. But in general, bleh.

Thanks for that tidbit. I am literally watching this movie now after 10 years. Only 20mins in so I will watch for that.

Yet look what happens without it.

Yet that's a digital manipulation, not a scene with fine grain.

Look at that sexy low ASA stock. Even at night it's bairly got a bump on it.

Bit hard to see the finer details at such a low resolution, actually looks significantly DNR'd from that pic, might need to bust out my blu-ray of it.

Yes and that's fine for it.
But film isnt supposed to be homogenic

That's good, it's a little long and I think it would be improved if they removed De Niro's subplot (it's "romantic") but they can keep Val Kilmer's and Al Pacino's

YES IT IS.

Anything that doesn't match my personal expectations is broken.

It's a very clean movie. Like everything Storraro did it's got deep blacks, rich colors, fine grain and an extremely sharp image (mostly - depending on what he's going for).

They literally don't make them like that anymore. RIP Kodak.

Not him, but taste can be and Mann's style clashes with what I look for in the kinds of movies he makes. Heat is the actually film that established for me how movies of that ilk should look, ain't that some shit.

is Dick Tracy good? I have it I just haven't watched it

It's funny, I'm the guy he was responding to originally, and while I acknowledge Mann's technical mastery, it's the aesthetics of Heat matched with that subject that completely turn me off.

I felt like it should look like a Friedken or Frankenheimer film. An attention to realistic detail over imaginative/stylized imagery when concerning a film that on paper appeared to be a "realistic" crime epic.

It's pretty vanilla but whatever. I find his digital far more interesting, better. The corny relationship shit in Heat is so far below the MV it's like a different director.

i was under the impression that Miami Vice was a run of the mill reboot meme movie.

Is it actually good?

Why the fuck did he make a movie based on a shitty 80s show?

Roger Ebert gave it Four Stars.

He was largely alone in his opinion, but I think he was spot on - The story and characters are shallower than a puddle and basically comic book movie paint by numbers, and the acting (casting) is really hit and miss, but it's so visually staggering that I think it's a 9/10 film. It's craftsmanship and imagery is so top notch and creative and fun that I don't need it to fulfill any other role other than being great to look at.

>Basing your judgement of the film on hearsay on Sup Forums

>Doesn't know that Mann produced the TV show and directed episodes.

What a fucking simpleton

>trailer park scene

The one well shot sequence in the whole film.

I think it's terrible, but it's as far from "run of the mill" as a reboot could possibly be. The one thing I'll say about Mann and that period is that, while I hate it, he's certainly not playing it safe.

MV was well shot through out the film, pleb.

The ending on the beach looks like my mum shot it on her iPhone.

>Miami Vice
>shitty 80s show.

youtube.com/watch?v=E1o-NWNmQLM

Sure thing.

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Well shit I guess I need to re-watch Heat because I would say it's aesthetics are comparable to Friedkin and Frankenheimer, stylised isn't the word I'd use but again I need to sit down re-watch the whole thing.

A film doesn't age as well as Heat has by being visually 'vanilla'

Heat hasn't aged well at all. It plays out nearly like a cheesy telenovela interrupted by moments of childish badassery

>Makes a film based on the show he CREATED.

Get a load of this joker.

Can I have a (you) ;_;

Hey buddy, how you doin'?

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Gattaca and Memento seem very popular

thank you :)

I don't care for either of those movies.

Primer sounds euphoric as fuck. If I watch it and am disappointed I'm going to blame you.

Gattaca is fucking perfect

Stylized in that it doesn't reflect a real world. The real story was about Supermarket stick up men in grimy 80's chicago.

Mann employs a slick 80's cop show aesthetic to the production design. His love of steel grey suits and hair all over it. His world looks like a spread from an architectural magazine or a watch ad in old GQ's.