>News Eubank and ITV launch a new sitcom Crawford gets chance to explore his cultural heritage for 90 days Britain's status as undisputed paper champion of world boxing looks set to continue
Forthcoming:
>December 16 Shabranskyy vs Barrera
>December 17 Hopkins vs Smith Jr Stiverne vs Povetkin Singh vs Cheka
>December 23 Beterbiev vs Prieto
>December 30 Inoue vs Kono
>December 31 Fuentes vs Tanaka Uchiyama vs Corrales
>Shabranskyy vs Barrera >Beterbiev vs Prieto >Fuentes vs Tanaka >Singh vs Cheka
who the fuck cares? don't act like you actually care about these fights you idiot
Michael Brooks
Generally what I do is add the stuff that is going to be broadcast in English, and then anything worth watching that won't be on top of that. I could add a lot more to these lists with mega hipster latin stuff if I really wanted.
Doesn't help that this is a really weak period over Christmas, jack shit on at the minute really.
Ayden White
the king of suppressed homosexuality
Julian Perry
>>Shabranskyy vs Barrera >>Fuentes vs Tanaka
These are good match-ups you pleb
Benjamin Brown
>BoxingScene.com has received confirmation that the Mexican mega-fight, between Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (48-1-1, 34KOs) and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (49-2-1, 32KOs), is being discussed for May 6th at a catch-weight of 165-pounds.
Wyatt Thompson
>mega fight
lol, the state of boxing is not great boys
Kevin Long
To be fair in Mexico this will be massive, the day after cinco de mayo too. Just a shame we aren't getting to see a fight which will actually be good.
Robert Torres
fair enough my friend
David Green
I predict Haye knocks Bellew out.
Alexander Smith
Fact is there is no American heavyweights that could be the White Rhino
Alexander Jackson
but he said he isn't a middleweight so why is he fighting at 165?
Jaxon Long
There are barely any American any weights who could beat anybody now that Mayweather is gone
Gabriel Parker
>I'll never lose to a white boy
What did he mean by this?
Luis Foster
Crawford is better p4p than any British fighter to be honest.
Evan Rogers
Frampton is better p4p
Chase Lopez
Frampton's best win is better than Crawford's, but I prefer Crawford's resume overall, and it feels like he's only just getting started. If Frampton can prove it wasn't a fluke and win the rematch I'd call it about even. Both fantastic though obviously.
He's the only one who comes close though for now though unfortunately. A few look like they have the potential to but are being held back from it for various reasons.
Asher Hernandez
Incidentally, always feels weird to call it a resume. Literally the only time I ever hear anyone British use the word is for boxing, should call it a CV i guess.
Adam Diaz
big stiff idiot detected
Matthew Walker
>CV resume sounds better tbf
Henry Adams
I just say "record"
Carson Cooper
>Joe "one man klan" calzaghe
Thomas Gray
Joe "Pulling the Trigger on every Nigger" Slapzaghe
Joseph Watson
all big stiff idiots must perish at his hands
Camden Phillips
And I predict the sun will rise in the morning. What of it?
Isaiah Bell
>Frampton's best win is better than Crawford's exactly, so who you prefer is inconsequential.
Aiden Green
as a guy who lived in Mexico for a while, I can tell you that they hardly give a shit about Cinco De Mayo. it's mostly mexicans in the states and white americans that made it a big thing
Ayden Gomez
Andre"stopped the Froch" Ward Terrence Crawford Errol Spence looking to be a real problem at 147 Keith Thurman Danny "Cherry" Garcia while fighting bums is probably the best welterweight
Isaac Murphy
Mcgregor fighting someone who no one cares about.
Conor mcgregor vs a literal who = 1.6 million buys
The most anticipated boxing fight in years between two of the top boxers in the world
Kovalev vs ward = 160k buys.
When will you guys accept that boxing is dead and MMA has taken its place?
Carson Brooks
>The most anticipated boxing fight in years between two of the top boxers in the world >Kovalev vs ward hold it right there, cleetus
Austin Young
Shabransky and Beterbiev are already top LHW that might pick up belts, that is if Ward the scummy hypejob doesn't retire to avoid all defenses and rematch with Kovalev. Instead of just watching the big fights you might want to learn a bit more about divisions outside the big names.
Elijah Brooks
Brook is better and like the other guy said, Frampton.
Logan Butler
Mayweather-Pacquiao did 4.6 million last year. Plus the UFC doesn't release PPV numbers, 1.6 is an estimate that's since been changed to 1.3. Could be lower because we don't really know.
Big-time PPV sales come from casual fan buys which come from crossover stars which boxing lacks at the moment. The UFC has already seen estimated drops below 160k in the last couple years when McGregor and Rousey weren't fighting, it's the same exact deal. Combat sports will never thrive like a league because they depend so heavily on a handful of big stars, but they'll never die either because you can make such absurd amounts of money at the top level.
Justin Hill
Long live the King. The eternal Anglo just doesn't want to see a proper Christian gyppo succeed.
Noah Thompson
How many ppvs did Chavez /Martinez do?
Juan Fisher
475k is what I heard although it was originally reported as being much higher.
Brody Rogers
Are there any fans of Jabimir clinchko on this board? Not a hardcore boxing fan (more of an mma and kickboxing guy) but I heard that Kilitschko has a very boring technical style that puts fans to sleep and contributed to the decline of boxing. Is this true or are his critics just casuals?
Hunter Johnson
He was exciting as a prospect before getting his chin checked badly a decade ago, since then his style has been total aids in order to cover up his glass jaw. Until recently he's been in a weak era of heavyweights who haven't been able to break his rhythm and land good shots on him, so he was content enough to coast to unanimous decision victories.
Vitali however is a real fucking G
Jaxon Flores
he's a good technical boxer that has a pretty weak chin. Boring defensive first fighter but he has a good right hand. Top 10 heavyweight ever for me, but can understand why casuals don't like him, won't be sad to see his era come to an end. Still think he beats Joshua even being an old man.
Gabriel Ward
help me add to my list of spicy bangers lads.
Colton Flores
not really high level, but frankie gavin vs sam eggington was pretty zesty
Levi Jones
they don't have to be high level
Evan Ross
as an Aussie you should check out Fenech-Nelson 1 and prepare to rage
Oliver Turner
just watched this fight. it certainly had it's moments but I don't think it compares to the others on that list.
will watch now.
Jaxon King
pretty great fight, azumah seemed drained throughout though.
Joseph Young
Trinidad-Vargas Bowe-Golota II Salido-Kokietgym Duran-Barkley Ward-Burton Corrales-Casamayor I Freitas-Barrios Sithchatchawal-Monshipour Arce-Hussein I Holyfield-Cooper Ali-Frazier I Frazier-Ramos Foreman-Lyle Whitaker-(Roger) Mayweather De la Hoya-Quartey Cotto-Torres Cotto-Judah Barrera-McKinney Barrera-Jones I Klitschko-Lewis Pacquiao-Marquez IV Jackson-McCallum Gatti-Rodriguez Foreman-Holyfield Marquez-Diaz I Toney-Jirov Katsidis-Earl Vazquez-Gonzalez Mancini-Frias Sosa-Williams I
Robert Wood
updated with Brewster vs Liakhovich and Nelson vs Fenech >Trinidad-Vargas >Salido-Kokietgym >Klitschko-Lewis >Pacquiao-Marquez IV >Toney-Jirov >Katsidis-Earl >De la Hoya-Quartey didn't think these were as good as people think they are but I'll give them another look
Joshua Wright
Salido-Kokietgym is fucking great. I could see some of the others maybe not being what you want if you're looking for non-stop action all the way through, but they're real good for high-level fights.
Also forgot to specify Katsidis-Earl I, the fight where the towel gets thrown back out again.
Charles Ramirez
this fight should have happened a few years ago. canelo by ko
James Morris
Shabranskyy vs Barrera is a pick fight between two top LHW contenders and could easily make or break each fighters career.
Shut the hell up.
William Barnes
pretty much this. ufc fags also ignore the fact that the ufc's tv ratings have been way down across the board. The at one time could hit numbers on spike tv that are narly impossible now on major network tv, lol. mma ppv is simply being propped up atm by conor and rousey.
Wyatt Rivera
>Katsidis-Earl ok, I was completely wrong about this. even though Earl was out of his depth, he still gave a pretty good account of himself.
Anthony Peterson
>Klitschko-Lewis certainly wasn't wrong about this one, though. this was the goofiest shit I've ever seen in my life - it was like watching two baby deers trying to stand of a frozen lake.
Ian Robinson
what the fuck man, shabra is a guy with a 17-0 record, not even one 12 rounder, no title fights, not even a great amateur, why should I care? hipsters on /box/...
Lucas Russell
>Salido-Kokietgym just re-watched and again don't feel that this was an amazing fight that everyone seems to tell me. besides the multiple knockdowns it's mostly salido landing combinations on a flat-footed, heavy-handed journeyman
Robert White
Canelo by Chavez quitting on stool . Daddy Chavez disowns son for losing to a Mexican redhead and Chavez gains 50 pounds
Gabriel Edwards
i can see that happening
Adrian Scott
Exactly how complicated do things get at the highest level of boxing?
Joshua Moore
Cotto Margarito 1
Juan Jones
complicated?
Eli Edwards
i know the "science" of it all like reach, angles, ringcraft, etc but i don't get when people talk about styles or game plans.
Connor Watson
added Earl vs Katsidis and Duran vs Barkley, as well as weightclasses and titles.
Chase Williams
I liked the Salido fight but to each his own. You oughta find a spot for the list online like the google sheet heem has for their spicy bangers list.
Xavier King
>google sheet do I need to create a google account because if so fuck that shit.
Jordan Gray
I didn't know but apparently you do. Lame. I'll see if I can figure something else out in a bit.
Eli Nelson
Well when it comes to styles there are a few common ones. i'll focus on 3. BOXERS OR OUT FIGHTERS: These fighters tend to want to maintain a distance at all times, defensive minded. Focus on jabs and straights. Think, Ali, mayweather and larry holmes. PRESSURE FIGHTERS: Always coming forward, cutting off the ring to prevent his opponents escape. like to fight in close and place a guy against the ropes. They throw with power and often focus on the body to wear down boxers. think, frazier, JC chavez or GGG. BOXER-PUNCHERS: these tend to be balanced out between boxers and pressure fighter. Hence the name. They tend to box technically most of the time but can also turn agressive. They often seek the KO where as a boxer might just focus on a points win. Think De la hoya, Juan manuel marquez or marvin hagler.
Henry Taylor
what a load of shitty meme fights
Ian Morgan
What do you guys think about Hopkins' final fight. Smith gave a great 1st rd ko last fight, but even a 51 year old Hopkins will be levels above Fonfara. My guess is that he wins by decision
Cameron Bell
tough to say. hopkins is so damn old...
Gavin Moore
I hope he loses really, it proves nothing if he wins, might convince him to come back yet again, and if he loses he launches a new star who happens to be a really likeable guy.
The smart money says a Hopkins points win though.
Dylan Jones
Yeah I'm hoping Smith retires him. Ref stoppage at least. But bhop looks really motivated
Andrew Parker
I think Hopkins' old body will fail on him and he'll find some way to quit
Wyatt Gomez
I dunno, hopkins looked his age when he fought kovalev and he was 49.
No matter how much of an alien he thinks he is, his is going to 51 when he steps in the ring and for that reason I can't favour him.
Mason Johnson
I've come to believe that range is the most important aspect of a boxing match. Whoever forces the fight to take place at their best range, wins. And if the two boxers are both most comfortable at the same range, that's when we get a barn-burner
Ian Kelly
>its a both fighters are comfortable out of range episode
Benjamin Davis
FuryvsKlitschko.avi
Camden Kelly
The UFC spends a lot of money on brand, so much so that literal who ppv's get 300k buys often, the idea is that people buy UFC events, not even especially Conor events, they're working out the combat sports problem of needing stars
Lincoln Walker
What fights can BT or ITV make which are honestly PPV worthy?
Groves vs Chudinov is literally the only one for ITV probably. BT maybe has BJS vs GGG or Eubank and that is it. Canelo would never come here.
Luke Hughes
Rumours of Brook going to Warren at the minute, Warren has admitted they're in talks. Guess that's why Khan rumours are suddenly coming out of nowhere again, Eddie needs a big fight for him. Even if ITV and BT end up being shit they might well force Matchroom to be better in ways like that.
Thomas Cook
Yeah, Katsidis vs Earl is a fucking GOAT fight, has everything going on.
Jayden Sullivan
boxing needs to ditch the whole ppv model, or at least significantly curtail it. Only mega fights should even be considered, maybe 1 a year. Be much healthier for the sport imo
Christopher Clark
desu the UK ppv model seems much healthier, as they charge like 1/3rd the price and put on better cards.
in a perfect world average fights would go on free tv, good fights would go on premium cable and great fights would go on ppv. That way people would get paid accordingly.
Jaxson Cooper
UK model much better agreed, something like 19.99 for premium fights, over here it's $80 for HD feeds
Henry Anderson
Based. Was starting to think we wouldn't get this in English.
Jose Jones
Agree with the Canadian, I'm perfectly happy to spend £16 on a Sky ppv most of the time sicne if I go to the pub I'll likely spend that anyway and it avoids fucking around with streams. If they were £50 I'd pretty much never buy them I think.
Aaron Torres
Brook would do good if he came to the states. He's already a champ and people recognize him from the ggg fight
Nathaniel Robinson
If he beats Spence and Khan it's hard to see where he goes from there yeah. None of the people in the American welterweight scene will come over.
Lincoln Torres
And we tend to get a whole evening of boxing for our money. The last Joshua card started at 5:30pm and finished after midnight. On regular cable you only get two to three hours
Robert Gomez
>brook is better
Lmao no
Luke Wood
>mfw seeing all these big stiff idiots on YouTube claiming bum squad wilder and hype job aj would ko big tyse
Andrew Ross
Dorticos vs Kalenga Thurman vs Porter Lebedev vs Guillermo Jones youtube.com/watch?v=LAeGAQq7_Vg (this is the only decent quality vid I've found of it)
Oliver Jones
Spence might have to go to UK. He's still a contender, no real name outside of real fans
Jayden Barnes
Spence will I imagine yeah. Didn't phrase that very well. Meant that if/when Spence and Khan happens there's basically nothing left for him at welterweight here. Maybe Liam Smith at Light Middleweight I dunno.
Sebastian Morgan
This. Corrie Sanders put the fear of God into him and he receded into a style that I can best describe as TOTAL FAGGOT.
Leo Allen
He should make the move up. 154 has a lot of talent, mostly American though.
Charles Rodriguez
>Italians >white
Matthew Hall
There's nothing hipster about it. If we were talking about two c class fighters who will never realistically challenge for a world title then you'd have a point but that's not the case.
Both of these fighters could easily be world title holders in the future.