Name me ONE female artist who writes all their own music and lyrics without the help of any writers/producers

Name me ONE female artist who writes all their own music and lyrics without the help of any writers/producers.

I'll wait..

Btw dorito head doesn't count dykes are basically men

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>dykes are basically men
epic, simply epic

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yeah you could tell she writes her own music. shit sounds like a child found a room full of instruments and computers

me nigga

Newsom, Holter, the list goes on...

my god, that dress

Did you actually think there weren't any?

Klô Pelgag

impossible

>without the help of any writers/producers.
doubtful

I'm not denying she's talented, but just listen to her shit. it's heavily, heavily producer influenced from song to song.

Yvette Young

uh actually she gets help for the orchestral arrangements..

Beat me too it.

It's a really good album, but didn't Fiona only co-produce it? She definitely got help from Charley Drayton.

How many listens does your soundcloud project have, Josh?
Any positive reviews?

whoms josh? also nice ad hominem. how bout you come up with a real retort that attacks my argument?

mette henriette

There are loads in the past, or do you mean just modern ones?

Joanna Newsom

>Name me ONE female artist who writes all their own music and lyrics
He played instruments, he didn't write any songs

if you truly don't understand why grimes is good, you've already done more to destroy yourself than I could ever do with words. don't blame your parents, man. this one's on you.

You're a freak

Dude asked for songs written by the girl. He played on all of them but she wrote everything.

>leaving out the relevant part of OP's sentence
I never mentioned writing. He has production credits

Have you seriously deluded yourself enough to believe she will fuck you if you defend her garbage on an anonymous image board? Seek help.

grouper, right? laurel halo? it seems that way anyway...

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you dumb subjective opinion about her music is irrelevant. stay on topic.

I'm gay, don't like having sex either.
I jerk off guys and that's enough for me.
The point is that most of this board is failed musicians, or people that were too scared to try and pretend they're above Grime's annoying, but acclaimed songs.

You must have a very exceptionally trained ear boy.

SHOO SHOO GRIMESFAG

Name a Male artist who writes all their own music and lyrics without the help of any writers/producers

Me

PJ Harvey
Regina Spektor
Girlschool
Deap Vally

Eat a dick OP

Not an argument
Stay a failure tho

Who the fuck is dorito head

Holy shit that projection.
You do realise Grimes' music sounds like shit and does nothing original, and it is perfectly reasonable for people who are just into listening to music to point such a fact out, right?

anthony kiedis
robert plant
thom yorke
john frusciante
joe strummer

Joanna Newsom

duh.

>fact
you sure convinced me Mr. Fact

me

Viper the Rapper

>a real retort that attacks my argument?
But you didn't make a real argument - i.e one capable of being retorted desu.

Those was all the dicks that Kendrick had to suck

>anthony kiedis
RHCP's songs are credited to the entire band
>robert plant
Nearly all of Plant's solo material was co-written, same with Zeppelin
>thom yorke
one song on each of thom's solo albums were co-written. basically all of radiohead's work is credited to the entire band
>john frusciante
Multiple songs released under his name were co-written with someone else
>joe strummer
Majority of The clash's discography is co-written

u tried

Alright then mate

>all those people
>still unable to produce even one decent song

Male "musicians" BTFO

Tom Waits

>without the help of any writers/producers.
Now, you and I might know that producers don't have a role in song/lyric writing (if they do, then they get double-credited as writers too.) However the OP clearly didn't get that far in his/her logical process of forming the question. Clearly they meant someone who also doesn't really on production from other people on their albums. So that would exclude e.g. Newsom.
Sorry mate.

>you
>still unable to produce a decent song

Yvette Bova

>You do realise Grimes' music sounds like shit and does nothing original, and it is perfectly reasonable for people who are just into listening to music to point such a fact out, right?
one of the shittiest opinions i've ever heard. grimes is actually awesome and her music is super acclaimed. you're a mere contrarian. get fucked.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks_Wild_Years

>no true scotsman
fuck off

He writes with his wife all the time. Some, like Mule Variations, have more in collaboration with his wife than by himself.

Angel Olsen

if a woman doesn't do every facet of an album herself she is a talentless decadent slut
if a man has the help of producers engineers or songwriters though it's okay he gets a free pass

>he still cannot comprehend the concept of specialisation and division of labour
It's been 12 000 years now, get with the times. People can critique people working in fields different from theirs now, you literal neanderthal.

Mozart wrote his first full symphony (on his era's equivalent of a DAW - a Fortepiano) when he was 8 years old. What is your point?

Who hurt yu grl?

Poptimists BTFO again

>Anthony Kiedis
I could fart into my laptop's mic and it would be better than anything that hack has put out.

Ayumi Hamasaki has wrote every single song on her 17 studio albums, and is the 3rd best selling Japanese artist of all time.

Only exception are covers and duet with a rapper who wrote his rap part in the song.

a MAN will never be able to accomplish this.

ching chong, ling long, ding dong x 17

Let me just end this thread

youtube.com/watch?v=GGSVNBIs5Wc

Japs are Übermensch though so it's not really fair to compare.

>anthony kiedis
most of rhcp songs have been written by flea

>Ayumi Hamasaki has wrote every single song on her 17 studio albums,
All of which were produced entirely by her "mentor" - a guy by the name of Max.

This is why I can't stand any of the far-East K-pop K-pop stuff. None of it is any more than skin deep if you go digging.

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* K-pop J-pop stuff...

>Ayumi Hamasaki
>Producer: Max Matsuura
dude, you're forgetting about producing...

>tfw youll never feel nickis ass slam against your lower stomach
feels bad man

nevermind. the op asked just about songwriting.

how is her consistently working with the same man (who contributed 0 to her songwriting) supposed to be a bad thing?

don't know why you autists are so hell bent on this when as we've seen in this thread literally everyone gets help in the creation of an album one way or another. is that not common sense

>anthony kiedis
You retarded? Dude is purely the vocalist and lyricist.

wow I didn't know Radio Head's stuff was credited to the entire band, and I've seen many people here give shit to other bands that do that for some reason.

dumb

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molly

Literally all female composers.

get ur head out of the ass of modern music faggot

Literally who?

>supposed to be a bad thing?
Firstly, I never used the word 'bad'.
In the era of electronic music production, the producer is arguably more relevant to the authorship of a given piece of music than the songwriter/lyricist (because they are the ones tasked with actually making the completed sounds that the listeners hear.)

To add some historical perspective to this - you know all those famous classical musicians like Mozart or Beethoven? Do you know what they are actually famous for? Composing music - NOT writing lyrics (Mozart's Don Giovanni was based on a pre-existing libretto written by Lorenzo da Ponte) And NOT writing songs (Beethoven's Ninth was based on a pre-existing hymn tune/set of lyrics.)
Composition is the process of taking components like song ideas, lyrics, and melodies and rendering them into the completed sounds that listeners actually hear.

Which is why the identity of the producer in electronically produced music is vitally important to accurately establishing authorship. Because the electronic music producers of today are the direct equivalent of musical composers from eras previous - not traditional "songwriters" or lyricists.

>when as we've seen in this thread literally everyone gets help in the creation of an album
Go re-read the thread, because that objectively ISN'T the case in terms of production.

most musicians work with other musicians to some degree, you just want to shit on women for some reason
you know you can have good taste and also not be a 30 year old virgin

what's with people putting qualifications on musical prowess here?
name 3 other women performers who do their own hair when they wake up

>what's with people putting qualifications on musical prowess here?
Welcome to music creation fandom, user. Are you new around here?

Also, are you looking for an actual answer to this question?

Who is she?

Motherfucking Prince.

>if you truly don't understand why grimes is good, you've already done more to destroy yourself than I could ever do with words.

grimesfags are fucking insane

Those ween fellahs
They were touring they means new album right?

Past tense, I'm afraid.

Says the person triggered-posting on Sup Forums...

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didn't use bad, you just worded it another way
>This is why I can't stand any of the far-East K-pop K-pop stuff. None of it is any more than skin deep if you go digging.
which already doesn't make much sense. if "ayumi hamasaki" was a band and max was one of the members, or max was singing himself, would that all of a sudden make their music authentic? would that make it ~deep~???

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am..._(Ayumi_Hamasaki_album)

she created 8 compositions alone for this album. so are all other other albums now less validated cause she didn't do that? or does it not count at all cause she didn't produce it alone hmmm!

history lesson was cute but has nothing to do with the thread

>Go re-read the thread, because that objectively ISN'T the case in terms of production.
literally every single artist mentioned in this thread either didn't produce their albums, or got help. so who exactly are you referring to. even grimes, who is listed as the sole producer on her last couple albums doesn't really fit the bill. cause last i checked she needed help with the mastering and mixing

no matter how small it is every contribution counts, and adds another name to the album credits, which is the entire point of this thread. if you wanna argue about which contributions matter more/less and truly feel that it makes the music more superior then go adjust your fedora and make a new thread

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For all the hate Anthony Kiedis gets, he writes the vocal melodies and lyrics all by himself. A lot of the time, he writes the song and others follow.
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You might hate him, but he writes better lyrics and songs than Mike Patton. I like Mike Patton but his lyrics are even more nonsensical and lack any depth. He is always surrounded by very talented musicians like Gould, Jim Martin, or Trevor Dunn.

Tbqh her parts are not even on Heads' best albums thanks to Eno.

>cmd-F
>no Kate Bush

see Yeah Kate did it all, from the writing to the production, at least from The Dreaming and onward.