The biggest threat to white society is that young men have no interest in family. Because family is hard...

The biggest threat to white society is that young men have no interest in family. Because family is hard, and it's easier to spend all your money and time on yourself.

How can we change this?

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I'm going to have a family, but most of the anit-family spergs argue that it's too risky because of divorce and custody. You can't change that without legislation.

Make the family legal system not so biased against the husband.
Teach women to not be vapid whores that only want to settle down when their looks cannot sustain their cock carousel lifestyle anymore.
3 bedroom house with a nice yard, white picket fence, dog and 2.5 kids.

Here's what I'll say.

Just let me have one woman. One that's it. Same in attractiveness as me, equal to me, what have you. And I would work forever. I'd go. Do what I had to do. And then come back to her.

But. I need to know that's how things will stay. I need that. More than anything I need to know what I've done or am doing will not be in vain. I need that more than anything.

I want her to have my kids, and for her not to leave me. And for that I'd work forever.

That can go beyond a woman. I could apply myself in such a way to many things. And in truth I'd love to. I'd love to because I feel like I'd be good at them. That I'd succeed.

But for what. There is no country. There is no people. And to scale it down all the way, there is no woman.

Not the woman I need. A woman who won't make everything I've done be for nothing. I need a people that won't make what I've done be for nothing. I need a country who won't make what I've done be for nothing. But that's all there is.

Nothing.

The courts favor women in divorce and child custody cases, to such an overwhelming percentage (85%), that marriage is simply not a viable risk for men anymore.

Men are not inherently unfit to be fathers; if the courts were unbiased, the custody would be awarded to a more even distribution of about 50/50, not this preposterous 15/85.

The laws need to be changed if men are going to take the risk of marriage and raising a family. In this world, with current laws, it's just not worth it.

>2.5 kids

Litteraly what?

Bla bla bla
Face the facts, men outsourced themselves to robots. World doesn't need us anymore. Women and men have no reason to be together anymore. Go gay or go suicide.

>let me
[translation - pls government appoint me a waifu]
Sounds like you're too beta to find em and flirt em your self.

>Because family is hard
No you asshole. I would love to have a family. The problem is finding a wife who isn't a cunt. Divorce is a last resort, not the first suggestion every time I disagree on the colour of a bedroom curtain.

That's only the tip if the multiculturalism ice berg.

All of society is against the nuclear family model because it threatens the cucks, trannies, fags, dykes, and niggers.

This

revoke women's rights

Whore houses, Brothels, or Whatever you want to call them.

Women right now are shit and fuck you over. Men are learning this. The only reason we continuously pursue them is for sex.

Now if we could just go to a classy business where the girls are std tested regular and pay like 20 for a quick fuck girls would have to shape up.

No one would put up with half the shit they pull now if they could get vagina whenever they wanted. This would force women who arent sluts to take on that motherly woman role or simply be alone forever.

>multiculturalism iceberg
>iceberg
>berg

If there was a surplus of jobs and a surplus of money. I don't see even buying a house otherwise.

You make it more appealing to young white men to want these things. Otherwise tough shit, more will continue to remain opted out.

Likewise I'm a jobless sperg who hates dating. Will I be having a family anytime soon? Hell no, so for the time being porn and games will do just fine.

When your wife has another man's baby, you'll have to pay alimony and child support for life.

Men have realized that the deck is stacked against them.

Women slit around with impunity, family courts favor women 90% or the time, alimony is awarded unjustly, rape accusations are thrown around like lawn darts, and women just don't give a shit about forming solid and stable relationships.

Why fight against all of that, when porn and video games allow a much happier life?

We need to convince white man to date fat white women. There are plenty and they need your love more than ever.

We'll have sexbots within 10 years. White society is doomed.

This is true. With many young/middle aged white men jerking off to porn and pulling out of the game completely, I'm afraid minorities will overpopulate. I know a lot of smart people without kids. And in most countries it's the poor idiots that breed more (blacks in the U.S.A., Mexicans).

Oh shut the fuck up shite.

You know what I meant, or maybe not.

Currently there is no good reason to marry or have a long term relationship. And don't go into how I can be a man and everything will be fine.

It's easy to be in relationships. But today they never go anywhere.

Fuck you auto correct, women don't slit, they slut

remove feminism and leftism

It's not a bad thing white people stop breeding, it's good thing. But minorities need to stop breeding as well.

The truth is there won't be enough jobs and natural resources for everyone. White people are smart when they realize this situation. Niggers and Mexicans still can't grasp the reality and keep doing it.

rt.com/news/342003-embryo-grown-record-days-study

No. It's women who are doomed. Soon we won't need them anymore.

Not if you can prove it's not yours. This isn't France.

Up Down, Up Down, Left Right, Select Start

I tried. Dated a girl for 8 years. We met in high school, started dating freshman year. Dated throughout college. We had never even kissed anyone other than each other.

Then come her graduating year of college, her new whore friends turned her into a slut (should have seen it coming desu). She cheated on me for like 4 months before I found out, then she spilled everything. She had fucked 4 other guys, 2 of them at parties, one of them when I was out of town, and one of them she had been fucking repeatedly over the 4 months in question.

Broke my heart. But now I've got my career, my house, and my own private bar and library to drown myself in sorrow and enlightenment at the same time. I've fucked girls since her, but I've never trusted another one of them again.

There's absolutely no reason to trust women these days. Ever since their little sexual revolution, they only care about what benefits them. They are entirely selfish. Their only worth is between their legs and they know it.

After I broke up with the whore, she actually had the audacity to try getting me to take her back by saying how sorry she was and saying "Come on, how about we go down to Victoria's Secret and I let you pick me out something to wear tonight. Then tonight, I'm all yours and have to do whatever you say..."
So I told her to kill herself and never spoke to her again. I'm actually thinking about hanging myself tonight. I hope you're happy you bitch, you ruined my fucking life. All I ever wanted was a family. A career is meaningless without a lineage. You fucking whore, you ruined my trust in women and I'll never be happy because of it.

Same thing happened to me but even earlier on. I'm glad it happened when I was young otherwise who knows how I would have fucked myself over later on.

>So I told her to kill herself and never spoke to her again. I'm actually thinking about hanging myself tonight. I hope you're happy you bitch, you ruined my fucking life.

Its only after you've lost everything, that your free to do anything user.

youtube.com/watch?v=P4hs2BbuxhI

If your going to an hero, at least take the whore with you to the grave.

>When your wife has another man's baby, you'll have to pay alimony and child support for life.
Unless something tragic happens to them.

Cheating is the most cuntish thing a woman does tbqhwy

But at least it's the main thing to use against her in a divorce

Its the Jews fault I don't have a nice family

I got me a older woman, smart and self responsible and extremely racist I love her

some americans states have no fault divorces law that disconsider such things.

at least that's what i have read in wikipedia regarding american divorce laws, any ameribro to enlighten us?

Maybe you should have pleased her sexually you cuck

same story here, starting in high school. we were even engaged.

However, it's better to not trust women. I've leanred so much from The Rational Male blog and books since then. and since then I haven't had any issues with women. If they do anything at all that isn't inline with what I need i drop them. I'm rapidly approaching a very high income medical profession. women already want me and it will be pretty nice to continue to have options for women that are actually pleasant while the whore rots away.

Exactly this
>teach monkey to press button for treats
>once he has learned this, start spraying him with a hose when he presses that button
>no treats ever
>act surprised when he refuses to press button
I DON'T UNDERSTAND, WHY WON'T IT PUSH THE BUTTON!?

Good for you. It's time for men to start being men again and being the dominant ones in relationships and not the opposite.

>tfw poo in loo
>mum is trying to shack me up with someone, anyone, from india to stop me from dying alone

I don't know how I should feel about this. I don't get along with my own kind at all, 90% of my friends are white and the rest are Korean. I don't want to add to the flood of immigrants polluting nice countries but there's no way in hell I want to go to the shithole that is my ancestral homeland.

My problems aside, the majority of my white friends are actively chasing non-white women. Most go for Koreans but a few have dabbled in Maori and Pacific Islander women. It seems to me like they're going out of their way to avoid white women. Which is strange since I can't stand other Indians but at the same time the concept of race mixing is abhorrent to me. However white women don't show a preference for their own men either. In my area they flock to Pacific Islander men. There's the stigma around them involving state housing and domestic abuse but it doesn't stop the white girls. Of course, I'm a handholdless kissless virgin at 21 so my thoughts on women and relationships in general don't carry much weight.

>you didnt fuck her ass raw and then dump her on the spot
dun goofd bruh

>men giving up family

Listen. I have kids. 3 blonde haired, blue eyed boys to be exact. Finding the "perfect" woman is never going to happen...ever. No one is perfect so you have to take the good with the bad sometimes.

Today more so than ever before in human history outside influence and corruption distort young people's perception of reality both emotionally and sexually. Women in particular are susceptible to the media blitz competing amongst themselves more often than not.

Womens lib from 1880's through today has completely destroyed the concept of a family unit. Over time the media's influence over people has proven time and time again just how stupid the vast majority of western people are. My wife is no different. She's an easily manipulated whore who competes with her friends for attention from the group of men (us husbands) they socialize with. Pathetic as it may be, it's more important for the dress to fit right or the shoes to be brand new than the well being of us or the children.

That's just life in the modern world. If an ELE happened in our life time, only then would men be able to take back the leadership role in their house uncontested and without complaint...because we'd be able to use physical violence as a means of shutting women the fuck up every once in a while without being thrown in prison.

I've beaten my wife a few times, I throughly enjoyed it, recommend it and encourage it. I welcome a domestic state of war and foreign soldiers invading this country. I could shoot my wife, blame it on an enemy then carry on raising my sons in a more suitable environment.

Pic related

>. I've leanred so much from The Rational Male blog
AHHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>How can we change this?
Make it worth it.

>dont want to have kids
>but I'm black so everyone including my own race is secretly relieved

Good for you mate. Shit marriage but at least you have some kids

Same story here.

At the root of this is leftism & feminism.
Mainstream media / movies / tv teach our women to be selfish self destructive whores.

Disgusting kikes. They've gone so far as to push for our replacement altogether throughout our own lands.

We're screwed.

I'm 29 and am at the point where settling down and starting a family seems more and more attractive but my fiancee always avoids talking about the possibility of having kids.

We both have good stable jobs, relatively small mortgage, and a house with room for at least 2 kids, I just can't rap my head around why she wont even talk about even having kids...

>I've beaten my wife a few times, I throughly enjoyed it, recommend it and encourage it.

yeah you're definitely safe from getting divorce cucked and should be giving out marriage advice

All marriages are shit. Anyone who says otherwise is lying or has Stockholm Syndrome.

why can't you start the conversation? man the fuck up, why are you so afraid of her?

>Ireland

Opinion discarded. The term "irish sunglasses" exists for a reason.

You'd think at least the lass would be having some fun

We need to push health and exercise again. There are a lot of potentially hot white women hiding in fatsuits, but fuck rewarding them as landwhales.

It's kind of hard to start a family when one side is willing while the other is looking to fuck around and "find herself."

Women DO have fun using feminism and domestic violence laws to shirk responsibility. Provide one example if you can of an amicable divorce where the woman didn't cry "muh oppression" "domestikk violenced me" as a weapon in court to get their way. Family courts are biased against men and nearly always favor women. Women get off on being in control of anything. Think of the worst boss you've ever had, guaranteed to be a female. Or the coworker you least enjoy being around.

Slapping women around restores the natural balance of things.

I feel generally the same way but I'm approaching my late 20s, and I see 15 years tops before the door closes on my opportunity to have a family. I don't want to pushing sixty when my kids are graduating high school.

You would have to pay alimony and if you took on a fatherly role and she tricked you, yes you would be paying child support

This is actually true, if you focus on beautiful women, they will always be cunts. If you focus on women just as desperate as you are, everything will be fine.

He's expecting at minimum 1 autist out of 3

Blacks aren't the biggest problem we have in the US. They murder each other at about the same rate they breed. It's the Mexicans that will be the end of us. Just the same as there are places in the UK where Muzzies are the majority. There are some American cities where you're hard pressed to find a White person among the sea of squat smelly taco benders.

...

Alimony is almost never awarded anymore and you would not have to pay child support if you were not the biological father.

It's called "spousal support" now. It's awarded in nearly every divorce where the man is the "bread winner" or has a higher paying profession. He's also responsible for insuring his offspring without the aide of the mother. Family courts are very biased against men.

settling to used goods, huh?

>young men have no interest in family
False
young women have no interest in family.

>Alimony is almost never awarded anymore
LMAO wait until your friends start getting divorced.

Be careful, tred carefully and pay a lawyer $500 for 1 hr to talk to before making any important decisions.

torontosun.com/2013/02/06/dad-must-pay-child-support-for-3-kids-that-arent-his-court-rules

Don't kill yourself over some cunt.
The best way to get back at her is to lead a happy life. Make her look up at you from her low place in life and feel hatred for you and herself for what she could have had.

I would slave away at some meaningless manual labor job from age 18 until now, if Ive had the chance of starting a family with a qt loyal wife, who would actually be interested in settling down at age 18.

Instead, since women nowadays can check out of marriage anytime they want, I choose to study, for the off-chance that I get a great career and can score a more prestigious wife, who will leave me the second my status decreases.

>you live in a time where having first date anal sex is more likely, than starting a family with your highschool sweetheart.

>Want to produce white kids
>Destitute and autistic
>Unrepentant degenerate
>Cant stand not being alone for large periods of time
>Distrust women after being fasely accused of sexual harassment (it was another guy who copped zero flack after being found out) and other lies and betrayals by friends I trusted
I'm sorry pol but the only woman that would put up with my shit would be a basket case herself and I can't raise kids around that.
Whats worse is I can't even get off to 3d period these days.
Some days I wonder of there was a point where it all went wrong or if I was fucked in the head from the start.

>Callie

At least you have good taste in catwaifus

>her new whore friends turned her into a slut (should have seen it coming desu)

What do you mean? Were their any specific signs or just women being women?

I'm in the same boat but I think (hope I am not deluded) that I have a 'good girl'. She talks down on sluts, is conservative, and is smart as well. She didn't do anything wrong in 8 years of uni (we were together the whole time) and doesn't have slut friends.
>Am I??

>What is prenup
>What is children out of wedlock

so many ways m8s

could even travel to europe and creampie tons of sluts and get them pregnate just to help repopulate the ukcucks and then leave of course

>paying child support while being in a different country

they call it that, but as a male if you get the wrong judge you pretty much get fucked anyway

Both men and women need to change.

Why should some lazy slag deserve some an alpha male who is over six feet tall and makes six figures if she can't even cook, clean, maintain a home, or take care of her own body or children?

Why should some autist deserve some 10/10 traditional housewaifu if he does nothing productive with his time, doesn't have a sense of purpose or good career, and just sits around playing video games all day?

Women are naturally repulsed by men today, and men are naturally repulsed by women today. Can you blame either of them?

Both men and women need to work on their natural masculine and feminine strengths. Men these days are too passive and feminine and women are too aggressive and masculine.

Men and women seek out their polar opposites, not their likeness. They would attract each other more strongly and families would result if the natural order was restored.

You weren't born with a lust for furry shit. You developed it from being exposed to furry shit. The best way to overcome porn addiction and weird fetishes is to stop fapping so much. You want to get over furry porn? Then get this, stop looking at furry porn.

I would not raise a child in the world as it is today in fact I probably wouldn't be allowed to, the leftists would come and take them to brainwashing camp, I would not try to take a wife because betrayal is more likely than loyalty. Instead I shall work to achieve a feat.

>Women are naturally repulsed by men today, and men are naturally repulsed by women today. Can you blame either of them?

exactly as designed

Give men property rights over women and children. Restore patriarchy.

>that document

>Men these days are too passive and feminine and women are too aggressive and masculine.

All according to kikekaku.

>probably
definitely already happening in more muslim countries. This train won't stop prepare to surrender your daughters for sacrifice

>I don't want to pushing sixty when my kids are graduating high school.

I'm in my mid-20s and I couldn't give a fuck less.

Honestly my advice would be to get into fitness. Become one of those fit old men who work out religiously.

>tfw every suggestion happened
fuck

its women's fault.

Let the white race rot for all I care. It doesn't matter to me when I'm dying 6-70 years later.

God damn that's scary. What is that?
The international Jew's handbook guide to societal subversion?

Convert them to Islam
or stick with their Christianity
Lol you fags need to have kids and stop whining about white genocide

Read on the Frankfurt college if you're liking this
%NotAllJews

That's actually my next step.
I've cut down drastically on the degenerate porn and next it's time to get buck. Already started dieting and I'm down fifteen lbs.

Its the summary of a internally leaked Planned Parenthood document from 1967.

Notice how much of what is on the list is now policy today.

youtube.com/watch?v=HsrOPDdbTzM

pretend to be gay and adopt a kid
or
just adopt a kid

Nah I know that shit, I've made some efforts given that even that no longer does anything. I mean more the shit with the need for isolation. Like I can't even live with friends for more than a few days.

I've read it's pretty much impossible for single men to adopt children. I've also read that red headed children go largely unwanted. I wish I could run a home for neglected gingers.

I already have kids, but fuck man. Such an uphill battle of younger men today to find even halfway decent women. I'll probably do some independent research about this and rage before the evening ends. Thanks for the info.

I literally want to get a girlfriend and start pumping out children by the dozens.

oh i know all about it

youtube.com/watch?v=AzgqWTJkZlU

One child will lose it's legs to diabeeties

That's depressing senpai.

Sad thing is I totally believe you.
Your sons deserve a chance.
Reminds me of my beloved nephews, 3 Aryan boys. I know their mother loves them.

At the same time, I hear her say things I would never let my wife get away with. If I find the proper woman, I'll have a family too. I just turned 22 and realized I have to let go of my attachments. If I take care of myself (read: perfect the arts, sciences and nuance of the volkisch life) I know it will pan out for me.

How did you get into the situation?
Why did you decide she was good enough?