what's the most number of football player dicks one girl can take?
>According to police reports and the student’s testimony, the student, who is part of the gameday operations at TCF Bank Stadium, drank five to six shots of vodka on the night of Sept. 1 before heading out of her apartment with her roommates toward Dinkytown.
>She then went with two football players to the Radius, an off-campus apartment building. Though she said her memory was spotty, she recalled Djam in a common area asking her to go up to his apartment. She would later testify that she had no intention of having sex.
>She said she felt panicked when Djam walked her into his bedroom, but later testified that he never pushed her, prevented her from leaving or said anything threatening to her.
>Asked during a court hearing why she didn’t leave, she said, “I felt scared, trapped, isolated with someone I felt had power over me.”
>At some point, they began having sex. The police report said “she doesn’t have a recall about how the sex acts started.”
>After Djam, others followed. She told police she saw a line of men waiting to take turns
>“I was removing myself from my mind and my body to help myself from the pain and experience going on,” she testified.
>She estimated there were at least a dozen men. “I was shoving people off of me,” she testified. “They kept ignoring my pleas for help. Anything I said they laughed. They tried to cheer people on.”
>About an hour and a half later, she said, she was allowed to leave. She called her sister, who told her to go to the hospital immediately, where she was given a rape exam, while her mother made a report to Minneapolis police. The next day, an officer sat down with the student, who described her version of what happened.
>On Sept. 8, police investigators Eric Faulconer and Matthew Wente interviewed Djam. He acknowledged having sex with the woman, but was adamant that it was consensual. As proof, he played them three separate videos, totaling about 90 seconds, taken that morning.
>During an 8-second clip, the woman “appears lucid, alert, somewhat playful and fully conscious; she does not appear to be objecting to anything at this time,” Wente wrote in his report. After viewing two additional videos, he wrote “the sexual contact appears entirely consensual.”
Carter Cruz
Real issue involved is about due process, and the slander of the accused. Stealing this post from someone who is more informed:
The night of the first game, multiple gophers players had sex with a woman. I've heard numbers up to 10. There may have also been players who were nearby who witnessed it. All of the 10 players were nearby, but it is unclear who actually participated. The woman was potentially drunk and potentially did not give consent. It doesn't sound like she explicitly said no but she may not have been completely willing to participate. This is the main area where what happened is up for debate. She did go to the hospital later though
The incident was reported to the police. Some players were suspended and some players got restraining orders that prevented them from playing home games. They were later dropped. The prosecutor also determined there was not enough evidence to take the case to court. Part of this decision was based on 3 videos that were 90 seconds long in which the girl appeared to be enjoying the acts and not objecting. However, the context of these videos was unclear - it is possible that they were from early in the activities that took place and she later withdrew her consent or that more activities took place that she did not consent to.
Even though the police were not going to take criminal action, the university EOAA decided to investigate more. In their investigation, which has not been publicly released and which the players may not all have been allowed to see yet, they recommended that 5 players be expelled, 4 be suspended for a year, and 1 be put on probation for a year. The athletes have a chance to appeal but not before the bowl game.
After the investigation, they announced that all 10 players were suspended indefinitely. This would almost certainly mean they would miss the bowl game. They mentioned that coach Claeys helped make the decision.
Nicholas Watson
>women
Isaac Wood
The players announced they would boycott all official team activities until the situation was dealt with. I don't think they listed exact terms, but they mainly want their players to be unsuspended and to have a fair appeal. They specifically mentioned they want to meet with the regents without Kaler or the AD present. One player specifically mentioned that he will transfer unless Kaler and the AD step down/are fired, even if the players are allowed to play.
From what I understand, here were the concerns of the players:
1. The police and prosecutor chose not to take legal action against the players, so the university should follow that.
2. The report was released at a time that made it impossible for the players to appeal before the bowl game. The rest of the team finds this unfair.
3. The team strongly believes that the players are innocent. I'm not sure if they have any specific reason for that or if they just trust their teammates.
4. The team objects to the statement that Coach Claeys was involved in the decision. It's unclear whether that was just a belief or if that was based on conversations with Claeys, but now it looks like Claeys is openly supporting the players.
Joshua Lee
>don't say no >i felt trapped wtf is wrong with women?
Carson Wood
Now that puts them in an interesting situation:
- Either Kaler and the AD will go or Claeys will go. Claeys appeared to directly oppose Kaler and the AD which will cost him his job if they stay.
- Something similar happened at Mizzou recently. Players boycotted and 2 days later, the president stepped down. It is important to note that most of the university sided with the players there, which appears not to be the case here.
- Kaler isn't in a position where he can easily unsuspended the players. If he does, it gives the impression that he doesn't care about potential rape victims. Not to say that the players deserve to be suspended, but removing the suspension would be career suicide for Kaler.
- If the players don't play, there are huge implications. First, they won't get any money from the game and they may be sued for breach of contract. They also may be forced to pay for things like the flights to and from the game if they've already committed to them. No matter what happens, I'm sure attendance will be down next year. If they don't give in to the players, many will transfer and it could be the death of the program as we know it.
- From what I've heard, all of the players are black. Not that it means anything directly, but it brings up the possibility of accusations of racial motivation. This is especially true because if the current punishments hold up, they are much worse than what the wrestling team got.
- If the Gophers boycott the game, NIU is next in line. They've already said they'll accept if they are offered the spot in the next 48 hours. They're putting pressure on everyone to make things move quickly. Not sure what will happen in 48 hours if we haven't reached a conclusion, but I'm sure the bowl wants to know who is playing this close to the game. They want to minimize their risk.
Leo Evans
It's a very complex situation with no easy solution. It certainly brings up issues with the way university policy violations are dealt with. I'd like to see university policy cases follow more of what the legal system does, but I doubt this case will change that. Kaler tried to not do anything about this for too long and now it's reached the point where there's nothing he can do.
No matter what happens, this will come to an ugly ending. This isn't something anyone can forget about. This will hurt the U, Kaler, the athletic department, and the athletes involved. Based on what we know now, either the football team tried to cover up something really bad that happened or the U tried to punish players for something that doesn't deserve punishment. Someone messed up big time.
Nicholas Edwards
It's been established that certain players like Antoine Winfield Jr weren't even in the apartment yet are still being suspended. It's madness.
Christopher Myers
Have you ever agreed to help a friend with someone, and then wound up having them demand you do other stuff too that you never agreed to? >Hey, user, help me move >Now that you're here, clean my house while I watch TV You'd feel silly refusing, so you just go along with it and hate them for exploiting you like that. Same thing, but sexual.
Lincoln Ortiz
Mental gymnastics. That's about it.
Christopher Sanders
chick sounds like a whore, probably asked for it. Players should be unsuspended.
Nicholas Lewis
Report just leaked. Players admit they heard her say no. Bad news gopher bros.
Evan Mitchell
10 players sounds a little gang rapey. Plus the fact that she went ASAP to a hospital is bad news as most false allegations they don't go to the hospital.
They might not have been charged in court where there is a higher standard of proof but to be kicked out of school under a title ix action it only has to be 51-49 and they stack the deck with professors and students who are far left.
Joseph Barnes
Here's how title 9 works
Man vs woman any circumstance.......
man guilty
Benjamin Brooks
This.
Dominic Hall
>five to six shots BEFORE heading out fucking gutter trash
Levi Morales
what is pregaming
Brody Miller
>based Gophers are going to make it so I don't have to sit through another one of their games this year
>You'd feel silly refusing spineless fucking bong. no wonder you're going to be living under sharia within the next decade. i'd tell them to eat a dick.
Alexander Morris
this has never happened because i'm not a little bitch
Chase Gray
>ESPN
get out
Owen King
Six shots of vodka though? That'll get a girl shitfaced.
Josiah Harris
Are nignogs inherently bad
Charles Gomez
why are women trash /spee/ ?
Robert Bailey
Title IX will strike again fellas
Prepare those added names to the sexual offenders registry
Liam Martinez
>implying your socially anxious ass has any friends anyway
Andrew Miller
t. Uni student bitching about "feminazis" on the internet in his dorm on Friday night
Lincoln Sullivan
>six shots of vodka >going back with a football player to the athletic dorms >"I didn't intend on having sex" she's probably lying about that, but if she's not, that makes her incredibly stupid, to the point you wonder how she could even get accepted to a place like Minnesota.
Juan Howard
>She said she felt panicked when Djam walked her into his bedroom, but later testified that he never pushed her, prevented her from leaving or said anything threatening to her.
>During an 8-second clip, the woman “appears lucid, alert, somewhat playful and fully conscious; she does not appear to be objecting to anything at this time,” Wente wrote in his report. After viewing two additional videos, he wrote “the sexual contact appears entirely consensual.”
Ok, I think Djam at least is off the hook, right? Poor guy probably thought she was just some slut.
>She estimated there were at least a dozen men. “I was shoving people off of me,” she testified. “They kept ignoring my pleas for help. Anything I said they laughed. They tried to cheer people on.”
These guys might be in some legal trouble.
Ryan Jones
these leftist SJW tribunals need to be put down. Sexual assualt is serisous business and needs to be taken care of by the actual authorities. Not legbeared Title IX losers that have no idea what they are doing. If the DA and police don't do anything about it, you have no right to do ANYTHING to anyone. Its none of your business.
Levi Taylor
>Now that you're here, clean my house while I watch TV
Wait, do you do this? Because it would take a comically spineless person to agree to that.
Ayden Kelly
>During an 8-second clip, the woman “appears lucid, alert, somewhat playful and fully conscious; she does not appear to be objecting to anything at this time,” Wente wrote in his report. After viewing two additional videos, he wrote “the sexual contact appears entirely consensual.”
Another case of a whore being a whore and then regretting it once people find out about her being a fucking whore. Regret the day after does not equal rape.
Jose Davis
these 2 statements seem pretty contradictory don't they? how can she be lucid and playful but pleading for help and trying to shove people off her?
unless it started out with her agreeing to fuck 2 or 3 of them then word stairs started spreading and the whole team was lined up outside the door.
Ayden Scott
>have actual video of the whore being a whore >suspend players anyways after cops and DA said nothing happens
This is your modern college campus people. Only what the female says and feels about it after the fact matters. I cant wait for the backlash.
Leo Martin
>she had no intention of having sex. then what the fuck were her intentions, to play chess? damn whores are stupid.
Thomas Perez
Brock Turner he we come again
Blake Sullivan
>“she doesn’t have a recall about how the sex acts started.”
So she doesn't remember gagging on this nigga's dick?
Because that's normally how nigga's do a sex, they pull out the tits, then fondle the ass, then get a blowing job, then do a sex
Tyler Turner
No, I'm saying that it was obviously consensual with the first guy. But it sounds like she wasn't up for getting ganbanged by the entire team. OP's quotes say an "8 second video clip" taken by Djam, so that was probably from when it was just the two of them.
Lincoln Hall
>the only guy mentioned by name in the article is probably the only one that's 100% innocent >doesn't matter because feminists are about to ruin his life while probably not going after the rest in the same way
The media is cruel
Jordan Green
You seem to know a lot about having sex with men
Angel Ross
I assume all Leafs have to watch black porn to fill your diversity quotas
Luis Taylor
You're not wrong
Blake Roberts
>On Oct. 3 the attorney’s office announced there would be no charges.
that should have been the end to it.
Luke Morris
Well this whole "preponderance of evidence" standard dates back to a 2011 mandate by the Department of Education that colleges investigate all sexual assault claims and use the preponderance of evidence standard, or else risk being found in violation of Title IX and losing federal funding.
With Trump taking office, he could tell the DoE to drop this requirement. Then colleges could implement higher standards of proof again without risking their funding.
There's no way UM's administration can cave on this, because it's not their choice. The law says they have to buttfuck these players. The president has a recommendation to punish them based on Title IX. He can't ignore it.
Jacob Powell
kek
Michael Turner
Getting drunk does not equal giving consent. In fact, by definition an intoxicated person is unable to give consent.
Luke Garcia
>8 second clip >she was there for a couple hours in total
Are you fucking kidding me? If you think that clip is proof of anything, you seriously need some help.
Kayden Sanchez
So two consenting drunk people are actually raping each other? Lewd
Colton Jenkins
See:
Aiden Sanchez
Well, they probably should have pressed charges.
And either way, the university has the right to discipline students even if the police don't.
Justin Anderson
>Slut acts like a slut, people find out so she cries rape instead.
Why do people believe women?
Ryder Walker
My rule is to doubt all rape accusations against white or East Asian men but to believe all rape accusations against niggers, Arabs and Pakis
Dominic Morgan
If some leftwing sjw university tribunal gives me some sort of discipline i give them the middle finger and sue the school for 1 trillion dollars
Gabriel Watson
Enjoy your hate speech charge
Benjamin Butler
I'm saying it was probably consensual only with the first guy. She even said that she didn't reject him in any way. IMO, it was consensual with the first guy but rape with the others, where there is no video and she says she was trying top push them off.
Henry Sullivan
Was she white?
John Myers
Wow. You are literally beta as fuck
Benjamin White
So her getting herself shitfaced is now a brick wall defense for herself. Kys
Asher Williams
Explain why a girl would take 6 shots of vodka before going out.
Ryan Moore
So she can cry rape when she has sex but doesn't orgasm.
Justin Barnes
And your dumbass suit will be thrown out. I hope you enjoy wasting your tuition money.
Owen Morgan
To pregame? Have you never done shots before going out, faggot?
Ethan Parker
Because she wants to get drunk? I don't know, why does anyone drink?
It's 100% unreasonable to say she must have wanted to have sex with all those guys, just because she chose to drink.
Ayden White
Hahah is this a real attemp at rationalization? This has to be bait.
Benjamin Campbell
Why do nigs love to share women?
Mason Cooper
>by definition a drunk woman can't give consent ftfy
Jackson Hill
The situation that was layed out, the one that he's replying too, would literally never happen, and isn't similar to this case in the least fuck off
Tyler Kelly
>be girl >get drunk and hit on dude >"Let's go back to my place gurl" >"el oh old ok!" >instafuck >another guy joins >"I'm somehow ok to this, it's not my first gangbang" >another guy joins >"get in here hun" >another guy joins >"show me that college cock" >another guy joins >"I want all of you inside me at once" >another guy joins >"alright I'll be heading home now" >"wait a sec" >"I will not, and now all of you raped me"
William Smith
>Dinkytown
Isaiah Turner
Terrific post. Not only did I laugh so hard I broke the space-time continuum and caused our world to end as we know it, my penis also exploded
Andrew Morales
Nah, what I said was correct. I'm not sure why you felt the need to "fix it."
Josiah Ward
guessing it's more like >goes out to party with the cool footballers >some guy comes up to her >she's horny since she's drunk >goes up to fuck some guy >other guys come in, it's getting weird and creepy >she wants to get out but too dumb/scared so she just goes with it, gangbang continues
Wyatt Reyes
Fuck off. You add nothing useful to this conversation.
Colton Myers
Always thought that was a little weird.
Samuel Lopez
>The North is a rape filled shit hole
No big surprise there. Dollars to donuts that some faggy lacrosse team also forced something up another teammates ass within the last month.
Bentley Harris
i'm guessing you sit down when you piss in your gender neutral bathroom
Samuel Sanchez
>she was drunk!!! She couldn't consent!! Women need to take some goddamn responsibility. But no, it's easier to just blame men and be a victim. Women and niggers are one and the same. For example, If I were to leave my house with the door wide open before I go to work, is it not partially my fault if I get robbed? Or is it 100% the theifs fault for taking avantage? >inb4 One post by this ID
Ethan Perez
>slut acting like a slut
nothing to see here
when the fuck did Sup Forums get so bitchmade?
Jace Jackson
>my bad, I was drunk >your bad, I was drunk >women
I just don't understand why the whole team is throwing this pissy little bitch-fest and forfeiting their game.
You were going to lose anyway, at least go down fighting.
Jaxson Reyes
Sure you shouldn't have done that, but the thief should still be arrested convicted of the crime they committed.
Jeremiah Wood
*tips fedora*
Connor Taylor
You know there are plenty of players on that team who do not want to protest and want to go to San Diego and play a bowl game but have to remain silent because you can't go against the brothers
Andrew Kelly
Legally yes it is the thief's 'fault'.
Alexander Campbell
In your example if they caught the thief they would still be prosecuted.
Brandon Collins
>muh Bowl game is so important
Why are college fans so literally retarded?
Bentley Hughes
nobody said it was important dickwad. free trip to san diego, swag bags and sluts or stay at home in the polar vortex freezing your ass off in Minnesota
Liam Ward
>at what point during the 10 man orgy did you decide you were being raped?
I would love being the defendant in this case
Elijah Hernandez
This shit is crazy
Isaiah Flores
Read the report.
Christopher Perry
Who is she bros?
Jackson Miller
>They took 4-5 shots of 100-proof vodka
It's a miracle she wasn't put down before she even left the house.
Alexander Ortiz
>I drunk dialed my sister and she took me to a hospital, that means I was raped
Connor Young
anyone else surprised they're all black?
David Thomas
this is what white women naturally crave
don't think for a second that she wasn't in a state of complete ecstasy taking double digit BBC in one sitting
all white women want a black man. she had over 10 in one night. society made her feel bad about her BBC lust (white woman's natural inclination) and she cried rape. this is america
Alexander Allen
>just starting to get good >Jerry Kill goes JUST >turn this season into a somewhat successful one. A few close losses >this happen
We're going to be Fighting Illini tier
Now when people ask who I cheer for I'm just going to say the NDSU Bison