Why were the soviets so shit?

Why were the soviets so shit?

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>finland: ayo what kind of war u want pham
>soviet union: just fuck my shit up
>finland: say no more

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NO THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING

Finland lost.

but they won

The soviets wanted to annex all of finland. try again

Because Stalin literally purged all the experienced officers in the Red Army.

Winning territory is winning. Losing territory is losing.

The soviets didn't manage to annex all of finland, dumb marxian cunt. They kept the vast majority of their territory intact.

Leave removing 500+ Marxian cultists to me.

To be fair they spent most of the Cold War as a Soviet satellite. There were Russian bases on their soil after WW2.

They still lost the Winter War, or at best won a Pyrrhic victory.

I think communism is retarded, fat burger. It doesn't mean I have to turn off my brain.

it was during their purge times
the big one

>They still lost the Winter War

By which I mean the Soviets lost, not the Finns.

The cold killed a lot of them, they weren't prepared for that in addition Stalin purged all of the experienced officers, well, most of the officers in general I think.

If they had those experienced officers they wouldn't have been killed by the cold or round-about, snow-gorilla tactics.

But Finland was allied with the west. The fuck are you smoking?

You're fucking retard. Again the Soviet Union wanted to annex all of Finland, they failed at this. Finland held its ground and kept the vast majority of its country.

And yet Vyborg (Viipuri) and Keralia are in Russian hands.

It was an Imperial Russian general with best training and experience vs commie rabble, half of them Ukrainian, with experimental setup, no morale, and after the army purge

Still Stalin won the thing, pretty amazing actually

>The Soviet Union ostensibly sought to claim parts of Finnish territory, demanding—amongst other concessions—that Finland cede border territories in exchange for land elsewhere, claiming security reasons, primarily the protection of Leningrad, which was only 32 km (20 mi) from the Finnish border,[28][29][30] at the end of a narrow finger of coastline about 15 km (9.3 mi) long by 5 km (3.1 mi) wide; most of the Finnish border was more than 50 km (31 mi) from Leningrad.[31][32] Finland refused and the USSR invaded the country

Yeah that definitely sounds like "all of Finland"

>But Finland was allied with the west. The fuck are you smoking?

No it wasn't. They had a capitalist economy but were officially neutral. In practice however they were heavily under Soviet influence.

>The cold war period saw Finland attempt to stake a middle ground between the western and eastern blocs, in order to appease the USSR so as to prevent another war, and even held new elections when the previous results were objectionable to the USSR.[3]

The Soviets also maintained a major naval and army base just 30km from Helsinki.

Well of fucking course bolsheviks lost so many people. Even tho now finns are the world famous autists they used to be a great warriors less than a 100 years ago.
Also the war on their territory, suomis are masters of fighting in the woods

>Red Army soldiers in their trenches. Note that they are wearing dark green helmets and uniforms which make them stand out prominently against the snowy background.

> the infantry charged in the open and in dense formations.

>suomis are masters of fighting in the woods
Soviets were absolutely the worst on the tactical level and treated war like a spreadsheet.

What grinds my gears the most in this discussion (amongst many things) is that you compare our countries like we were on equal grounds to begin with. We were a country with ~4 million population against a country which army itself was larger than our whole country.

And Soviet annexation plans are there to see you can nitpick and play it like they would've only wanted Karelia but that's just bullshit considering what kind of borders they set in Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. We watched as soviets demanded lands from other baltics and suddenly whoops their capitals were under soviet control. It's a common russian troll tactic to deny the plans for annexation to make us look like the enemy.

Also, they set up a ssr in karelia during Winter war and promiced the mainman of that government control of the country when the tanks would've rolled in Helsinki in that famous 2 weeks Stalin talked about.

TL:DR: If you claim otherwise you're an USSR shill and probably commie aswell and the only thing you deserve is a bullet in the back of the head and nice cold ditch to share with other undesirables.

Soviets could probably have annexed Finland in 1944 if they wanted too. Why didn't they? Genuine question not shilling for Russians

general frost helps both of them

I like suomis for killing bolsheviks tbqh

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Realistically we were too much an pain in the ass. We pushed them to stalemate in the isthmus and Stalin came to the conclusion it'd be not cost-effective to annex the country. So we made a deal to threw krauts out and we'd retain independence.

Stalin wanted to have at least one capitalist satellite.

>I like suomis for killing bolsheviks tbqh
Most of the dead Soviet soldiers were Ukrainian peasants, though.

A fitting end for a kulak.

Because Lenin Christ makes for a shit messiah

marxism is a cancer