Bet you eurotrash wish you could have dope ass guns but your cuck government thinks you're too stupid to have them...

Bet you eurotrash wish you could have dope ass guns but your cuck government thinks you're too stupid to have them. Good luck protecting yourself against the invading Russians and Muslims. Not to long now before all of Europe is decided between the Muslims, Chinese and Russia.

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Nah, we are clever enough to know that we are not in need of
Nice bait...

>Nah, we are clever enough to know that we are not in need of

God damn it, I would trade in the 2nd Amendment for some universal health care and a functioning socialist party anyday

>dope ass gun
>Posts over-tacticooled short barrelled piece of shit

And what happens when the Russians come to knocking? Are you going to politely ask their armored columns to leave. Your governments have betrayed you with a lack of defensive military spending. Your entire EU isn't enough to repel the imminent Russian invasion of Europe.

.... invading Russians and Muslims..... Kek nice bait.

Get ready for that big Russian dick europe!

Trump's America isn't coming to save you.

>"ur cukked by da gubmint"
>need to pay tax and almost a year of your time to have a stock on a pistol

>Your entire EU isn't enough to repel the imminent Russian invasion of Europe.
This.
The Eurozone most likely couldn't repel 2 battalions of Russian GI.

Does Europe even have 2 battalions of battle tested soldiers?

If you are dumb enough to make war because you can or because you are too dumb to communicate (aka hello America and Russia) you couldn't be helped

Are you retarded? Russia's invasion has already begun. They invaded Crimea and Europe did NOTHING. Now putin knows just how weak and pathetic you really are.

yes you will. Because USA is involving its military everywhere it isnt needed

Wew lad
>defensive spending
Nobody has attacked the is since pearl harbor
>invading russians
Russians own the US government and the chineese own your debt

Irs like you are baiting and shitposting at the same time
>shitbaitposting

He says as a Russian tank runs him over LOL

No one has attacked BECAUSE we spend so much on defense. As far as debt goes no real world power cares. They are just numbers on a board. Some accounting numbers don't prevent war.

>They invaded Crimea
No, they just reclaimed their rightful land

>Upper middle class

Can you even shoot properly city boy? There's more to it than squeezing (not pulling) the trigger wildly, and recycling one-liners.

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Every american

sorry yurofags all your dumb languages have to go. nobody gives a fuck what they replace it with but it looks like you should learn the russian alphabet.

Like Germany did the Rhineland? Oh you short memoried fool.

Come find out.

>And what happens when the Russians come to knocking?

NATO happens, followed by an exhange of ICBM's that is going to wreck mainland europe, the east and west coast of the US, and any population hub in western russia and eastern siberia.

>Are you going to politely ask their armored columns to leave.

Every european nation has a standing modern army but it's a moot point considering the previously mentioned nuclear apocalypse.

>Your governments have betrayed you with a lack of defensive military spending.

Right... Because there are no countries with nukes in europe. Trident is just a myth, and the french nuclear tests were just propaganda pieces.

>Your entire EU isn't enough to repel the imminent Russian invasion of Europe.

The EU is a financial union, not a military alliance. Again, you are thinking of NATO. Should NATO be abolished then a european military alliance would be drawn up.

Now, as a counter question, why would russia want to invade western europe?

Yes

Nukes are worthless now that everyone has them. You can't nuke territory your trying to annex. It defeats the whole purpose. Now if you think nato has the power to stop Russia without massive US intervention you are delusional.

You are aware the US was a founding member of NATO?

Hello from Czech republic :3

You realize that trump is ready to leave NATO?

>Bet you eurotrash wish you could have dope ass guns

You are quite right. Dope ass guns do give me quite the erection. I imagine that this comes form the fact that we used to play war when we were kids, and that nostalgia boner for pew pew pew never really goes away, does it? This is also why people enjoy CoD.

>but your cuck government thinks you're too stupid to have them.

Historically, giving the proles access to military grade weapons have never ended well for the ruling elites. I think that it is somewhat naive to believe that the goverment is underestimating our intelligence though; I think it is more to do with curtailing the risk of anarchists and terrorist nutjobs gaining access to military hardware.

>Good luck protecting yourself against the invading Russians

>and Muslims.

The msulims are sadly invading legally. To start shooting them with machine guns would be illegal. To stop the 'invasion' we would have to secure peace in the middle east (I hear Jared Kushner is on the case so any day now, eh?) and thus reduce the amount of refugees fleeing into europe. The next step would be to tackle those fleeing the effets of cliamte change (desertification; look it up), but let's just focus on one tree hugging hippe project at a time eh?

>Not to long now before all of Europe is decided between the Muslims, Chinese and Russia.

The muslims ar enot a united political power, in comparison to russia and china. Russia's objectives are to re-assert control over eastern europe whilst applying enough covert political and economic pressure on the EU in order to keep it weak and China is sniffing around for potential future trade alliances as it hopes to surplant the US as the main trade partner.

So you are right, Russia and China will play huge roles in the future of the EU. Thank god Trump is willing to let them, due to his isolationist policies. This week I mean. He is hardly famous for sticking to his convictions.

That one smart guy on Sup Forums.

Thanks. Americans just have to try to feel better about themselves, seeing how they tend to fuck up everything.

As if a gun is going to protect you from a soviet tank or an artillery strike moron

>Nukes are worthless now that everyone has them.

fascianting argument. If I may offer a counter: No they are not worthless and no not everyone has them

>You can't nuke territory your trying to annex

exactly. And NATO would not be looking at annexing moscow after they nuke it

>Now if you think nato has the power to stop Russia without massive US intervention you are delusional.

Do you by any chance live in a country where watching RT is compulsory? Anyways, let's break down your question. First of all, do I believe that NATO can defeat russia without all members of NATO pitching in, or rather without the principal founding member state of NATO pitching in? Well yes, I do. The threat of Western Russia disappearing in a nuclear holocaust is a sufficient deterrent to stop the russians form invading Western europe. But again, you have not addressed the question, why would russia want to send tanks into western europe? What would russia gain from this, apart from nuked cities a war with the US?
What resources does russia hope to attain from the occupation of western europe?

Furthermore, let us assume that NATO is dissolved and that the US is busy fighting a civil war or soemthing, so it cannot curtail an aggressive russian expansion into europe. As mentioned, Great Britain and France can nuke russia on their own. Germany still possess one of the most modern land armies in europe. Why is Russia risking nuclear war over the acquisition of lands that she will then have to spend decades policing due to the vehement anti-russian sentiment that the survivors of these countries would possess? Russia would have to commit genocide in order to keep the population under control, and the other great powers, such as China and the US, would not allow Russia to control an empire from portugal to Vladivostok. They would be pouring money and arms to help any and all insurgency groups that would form in the conquered lands, should Russia achieve any conquest at all.

Yeah, a population armed with ARs and glocks would totally stop a russian invasions, untill they send in tanks, helicopters or any type of armored vehicle.

You cant do shit against a modern armed invasion force wielding small arms alone.

So no one uses ground troops?

Idiot.

An army of well trained troops coordinating their attack with armor and air support

vs.

some random unorganized civilians with no command structure, or means of taking out armored vehicles or air power (But they have small arms, so I'm sure they'll be fine).


If you think that ends in anything other then the civis getting rekt your too deluded even for the internet and have to start your own religion based on what ever wacky version of the world you see.

Sure, but of infantry casualties, small arms covers a prett small portion.

You want to prepare for an anty infantry war you should stockpile explosives, not bullets.

Most deaths are from IEDs/suicide bombings, not small arms.

LOL, you should move to Raqqa and make a stand with your tacticool gun there, at least you'll meet some likeminded guys

No, look I understand. I was one of the first people calling the fat morons with basic bitch ARs (the ones with the A2 sights and blackhawk stocks) idiots for thinking semi auto ARs and a plate carrier would do fuck all against well trained, fit, coordinated ground troops and armor.

But acting like there would be zero casualties on the military side is short sighted to say the least.

for holding territory, yes.

For taking territory? Well, have you heard of a phrase called mechanized infantry? Have you heard of tanks? Have you heard of artillery barrages, tactical bombing runs and dróne strikes?

Don't get me wrong though; as was clearly proven in Georgia, desperate men can put up a determined resistance to a russian invasion given enough rpg-7's and kalashnikovs. But should we remove nukes form the equation, the armies of europe are better equipped than the guerilla fighters of the North Caucasus. You could try to form a militia from the civvies, if things ever became that desperate but militias are notoriously unreliable comabt troops. It is better to rely on a well trained standing army and the use of compulsary military service instead of giving NEETs assault rifles and pointing them in the direction of the enemy.

*chechnya, not georgia. stupid fucking phone

Yes I think we should remove nukes from the equation.
Why?
Because mutually assured destruction is a real thing, and short of an islamic extremist maniac or pudgy faced retard, no one is going to be daft enough to not know that launching a nuke won't result in the completely destruction of their country as well.

This is why Russia was never ACTUALLY a nuclear threat.

North Korea, random Islamic terrorist groups on the other hand...

>samefag

I don't think NK is that much of a threat at least currently, as I don't think they have anything capable of getting to us. South Korea though, is probably in at least a LITTLE danger.

I never said they would inflict no casualties, I said they would lose. Badly.

Friendly Fire would be a bigger threat to the invading army then these guys.

ABSOLUTE FACT on the friendly fire thing lol.

(same guy btw)

9 out of 10 3% militia types have zero military training or it was 20 years ago and without actual trained experienced non retarded leadership would die in hours at best.

he used to be. He then changed his mind. NATO is now essential

u are form the land where kids shoot each other? when is the next school shooting? how about a nice aim training for ur friends so they can kill themselves? i think to get get an credit for a new car and they will give me a M16 for free, so i can acually have the credit for free. blurp..ameritards live in a second world country and think they are rich people. but not enough inanity, they think their violence is something the can be proud of. nation of idiots

Is the propaganda in the USA that strong that u realy think Russia threats Europe? That are lies. Russia want a economic partnership with Europe, not war. If Russian ressources and German engineering is combined no other super power in the world coud defeat this. Thats the fear of the USA and the reason for the propaganga in ur country.

youre dumb. like your brain is a wall haha

"u are form" argument denied please resubmit and try again.

ITT: Infantilized citizens of nanny states pretend they aren't the laughing stock real men (Americans) know them to be.

You deserve to be conquered, tbh.

exactly, and this is my entire argument, because of NATO and MAD, the EU has never needed to form an independent european army (even though I think they should as it would help formenting a sense of european unity but then again I'm a dirty peaceloving globalist so what do I know).

In the argument that civilians with guns would deter an invasion force, all we need to do is look at real life examples. Did well armed civilians stop the americans in Afghanistan? No. Did they cause a nuisance after the invasion? Yes. Did well armed civilians stop the americans in Iraq? No. Did they cause a nuisance after the invasion? Yes.

Arming civilians to fight a geurilla war is far more effective than relying on them to stop an actual invasion. If your standing army cannot defeat an invading army, giving guns to willing/ unwilling amateurs is not going to help you either. Doesn't matter if they have been raised to shoot varmint on their pa's farm since they waz about yay big tall. They are much better employed as partisans, making IED's, booby trapping buildings, roads and bridges and maybe even taking potshots at high asset targets. Terrorizing the invaders basically.

When the barbarians are at the gate, and you only have your militia left to rely on, then you have already lost the war.

>b-but speaking languages other t-than English is OK...
Non-anglophones aren't people.

ITT: Shitposting retards avoid addressing real arguments and are forced to resort to name-calling in order for people to bite down on their shitty bait

Würd dir auch nicht schlecht stehen endlich mal ein bisschen Deutsch zu lernen!

Uh oh. Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the crib this morning. Don't worry, nanny state will be here to restrict the bad man's speech on the internet soon. Then you can go back to sleep.

Notice how I don't need to know what you're saying because your grandfather lost a war and mine didn't?

FUCKING WHAT RIGHT NOW!!! AGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You can still own guns in the uk ? You just need to get a license from the police.. and you are only allowed certain types of firearms.

this is my point. Rather than engaging in a debate you prefer to try to get some sort of raise out of me by trying to belittle myself or whatever nation you think tht I am from. It's somehow pathetic.

So riddle me this then, why would Russia risk a nuclear exchange by invading western europe?

(Also, I am somewhat bemused by the fact that you think that whatever country you believe me to be from is going to curtail my internet rights, when the NSA is monitoring your e-mails and it is the current American president who has allowed all your internet data to be sold to the highest bidder)

Oh no a foregrip and a light, what a fucking mallninja right?

>he foolishly believes any number of textually transmitted thoughts are going to change what a broken non-man he is
This isn't a discussion, baby boy. This is a real man telling you what you aren't. Get with the program, limp-wrist. I didn't even bothering reading your pathetic attempt at a reply. What would I have gained? It's like listening to a toddler try and pretend he's really a big boy.

I wasn't threatening you. It just amuses me that suburban fuckers think they can plop down a wad of cash on an overpriced firearms and think it makes them commandos all of a sudden.

so you prove my point? That you are too impotent to reply, and too ignorant to comprehend?

gg wp retard

>the non-American permatoddler tried replying again

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>no u
Thanks for the toddler confirmation.

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