/f1/ - Formula 1 General - Massa was always shit edition

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>Maldonado went Christmas shopping in Berlin
>Vettel gave the Russian ambassador a message
>England's brave Joe, Lee and Palmer won grill the grid

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First for Gimi

3nd for joyless palmer out of F1

> an alfa romeo suv
Why.jpg
I wish I still were unaware of it.

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every other fucking company is doing it, so Alfa has to, too, apparently.

I wish SUVs were banned. I'm outlawing them completely if I ever come to power. There's absolutely no reason why anybody needs to drive around a city in a massively oversized land barge.

If you "need" 7 seats, then you should probably look at contraception methods, or a van.

Sixth for poo in loo

7th for Gimi

Say hello to the next GOAT and a future multi-WDC

>the future of motoring is self-driving, hybrid SUVs as far as the eye can see

wait, you're not SIDF are you?

>self driving cars will render motorsport irrelevant in your lifetime
I hope I'm dead before this happens 2bh

Bottas confirmed?
bbc.com/sport/formula1/38384982

>next GOAT

it took 40 years for Fangio's records to be broken and F1 won't be around for another 40 years of drivers having a go at winning 8 WDC, m80

exactly, there will still be niche enthusiasts just like the current classic car folks but this self-driving deal is being shilled so hard

>self-driving momvan taxis

what a horrifying reality we occupy

Anyone but Wehrlein.

Massa not retiring is fucking shit though, after all the tears and feels.

>it took 40 years for Fangio's records to be broken and F1 won't be around for another 40 years of drivers having a go at winning 8 WDC, m80

That is because Grand Prix racing could fucking kill you if you stayed too long, the drivers died or fucking retired early.
Max can literally spend the next 25 years trying to beat Schumacher in racing for a team who always delivers good cars, our only hope is Ricciardo outdriving him

This, so much.

ya reckon he'll have to give back his Brazillian wreck of a FW37 if he signs the dotted line, Nick?

When he got it he said no take backs

Its safe

If he at least haven't given feels.

I'm happy but kinda angry at the same time.

>Maldonado went Christmas shopping in Berlin
Top KEK

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Who knows, maybe he'll pull an Alonso and move to worse teams year after year

>our only hope is Ricciardo outdriving him
Guess we're in good hands then.

Prost came the closest to Fangio from ~200 GPs, of course he finished with the most points in 1988 but even drivers like de Cesaris managed long careers before Schumacher won his 'hips. 25 years of F1 at ~20 races annually adds up to 500 GP entries, so yeah I guess it's possible. But I'd say it's unlikely.

Very specific combined factors lead to success (reading Ross Brawn + Adam Parr's book atm), just look at Ferrari. They won 9 'hips in 30 years but just imagine the turnover in personnel, change in the sport etc. I'd be curious whether there's some lifer engine mechanic in Maranello who is the most successful person in F1 in terms of titles won.

can I save this, friend? the pimples are a nice touch

Nah, he has too many smart people taking care of his career, unlike Alonso

>got afraid of the competition so moved from McLaren back to papa Flavio
Shit decision made on ego, I think
>goes to Ferrari without taking people from a winning team with him
Michael was smart enough to understand that mess of a team can't win with a talented driver alone

Can't see Max doing shit like that, not without any title, daddy Jos making decisions for him and keeping his ego in check

Winter Stream: Magny Cours 96

>Schumacher Pole
>Schumi's Engine Blows On Formation Lap
>Hill Wins Lol

>daddy Jos making decisions for him and keeping his ego in check
Just wait until he sacks Jos and goes full Hamilton tier

lmao this will be fuckin funny as. Amx will be the most unbearable cunt ever known to Formula 1.

>Jos making decisions for him
OK so he will never win a WDC and move to the most unreliable car that can't score points. Amx in Hass when?

well, remember the only reason he's at Red Bull is they offered him a drive immediately in Toro Rosso and Mercedes only had a seat in their Junior program. so depending on the relative competitiveness next season the Verstappens might regret exchanging one Red Bull GP win for a chance at the WDC with Mercedes under the new regs.

Jos isn't managing Max anymore

>Amx will be the most unbearable cunt ever known to Formula 1
not as long a Rici's on the grid. Altough that probably won't be too long

Of course you can. Glad you like it.

>Most unbearable cunt
>Ricky or Amx and not Joe Lyn or Palmer

Shiggy

>Binland cucked so hard he loves Amx now

I used to curse Max's name (Spa was a dark time), but after Brazil, i had no choice but to recognize him as the Greatest

Who would be suicidal enough to sign up to get comprehensively BTFO'd by lewisha in between engine failures?

Daily reminder that Fangio was a carbabby

Are you drunk?

How much do you think Hulkenberg is contemplating suicide right now? It has been mentioned that he would have been the likely replacement candidate for Rosberg, same markets, more likable, charismatic, appeals to "classic" Merc fans because he is German etc

Instead

>Renault try to get everyone under the sun including Bottas for 2017
>Bottas wants to go and leave the Williams sinking ship
>Williams won't release him without getting a nice payout
>Renault tries Perez instead
>Perez doesn't take the bait because the team obviously won't be good next year
>Renault tries Hulkenberg
>takes the bait immediately
>signs multi year contract with Renault
>Bottas "cucked" out of Renault seat
>stuck in Williams with some rich kid, career kill most likely
>gets Mercedes drive outta fucking nowhere
>Hulkenberg struggling to get into Q3 for the next 2 years

Bottas got fucking lucky

I mean its the BBC so I guess it's legitimate, a lot of those confirmations are seemingly coming out of nowhere though. I don't not believe it but its just the first i've seen it being talked about not as a rumor.

Interesting information in that article is this

>Mercedes executive director (technical) Paddy Lowe will join Williams to run their team following the departure of their chief technical officer Pat Symonds, which was announced on Tuesday.

>Mercedes will replace Lowe with former Ferrari technical director James Allison. The 48-year-old is on 'gardening leave' from the Italian team but will be free to join Mercedes in the late spring or early summer of 2017.

So I guess that explains some things I posted in the previous thread. Lowe is seemingly moving from technical director to.. basically Team Principal? At least the technical side of it, so I guess that's his new level of control. Allison joining Merc is the first I've heard of it, but I guess its what's going to happen now.

I'm wondering how the development of new cars go with the changing of technical directors and key personnel. Like do you want to give Mercedes your 100% when you know you're leaving at the end of the year? How do you ensure continuity of vision and whatnot as well.

>One single race makes up for every previous mistake
Go home, Finland. You're too drunk.

It's gonna make it all the more sweeter when Hulkenberg gets his first title in 2023.

>not being nico's friend so he tells you that he is leaving mercedes
Its his own fault, he was always going to be the one that retired first out of the mercedes duo

I'm so conflicted now,

Do I want Merc to be good now? I don't want to see another Hamilshit victory or pole ever again but I also don't want Bottas to have a fucked up career. Bottas needs to at least win some races at the very least.

It isn't really a question tbqh, Merc still has an awful lot of advantage on the engine which won't be really effected with these regulation changes.

Is it just their PU though? I think Merc does have very decent aero as well

he looks like that Borat guy

Is there someone who ran out of fuel during a race?

>WDC retires
>Bottas to Merc
>Lowe to Williams
>Allison to Merc
>Symonds to retirement home
>Giovinazzi to Ferrari simulator
>Massa unretired
>Hülkenberg on suicide watch
>Allegedly Ron Benis and gook KFC fighting over Manor


Pretty exciting off-season so far

>Button ends career cucked by retirements and overwhelming Massa support
>Massa doesn't even retire
>Bottas to Mercedes confirmed

Wew, best day I've had in months

The engine will almost certainly still be #1, so I'm not too worried. The biggest threats are Red Bull and Ferrari. Ferrari will be Ferrari and Red Bull allegedly went for some radical lengthened chassis design, which I suspect will be good for aerodynamics but ultimately a let down as the car does not maneuver as well as the rest of the grid. It'll be the forward-blown diffuser of this era, good on paper but too much work for a real improvement, especially with limited testing to fix the kinks.

He'll net a few fine wins but will have to work his ass off if he really wants fo hallenge Hamilton.

Ron is getting involved in Manor? It would be amazing if he btfo the mumbars from the UAE that are running Mclaren.

>implying Ron Benis and le chicken dude won't join forces and create KFC Brawn 2.0 (aka Dennis Racing with Jagonya Ayam) and Giovinazzi wins the title in his debut season

GRAZIE GRAZIE GIOVINAZZI

pray for a glorious merc-on.merc crash that costs hamilshit's life

discuss future goat

Pretty surprised he'll be on the grid in 2017 as well

He won Grill the Grid this year so he can't be that bad. And he even had to ansewer F1 related question rather than Music questions like LewLew

>know for his relentless answering of press questions (when he gets asked something)

Winter Stream: Silverstone 96

>Hill On Pole
>JV Wins
>Murray Went On The Drivers Parade In A Rolls Royce

>it's a Felipe shits on his 'legacy' season
Gotta admit I didn't expect this one again

>2009 World Driver's Champion Jenson Button MBE was passed over for Felipe "15 seconds" Massa

incredible amounts of JUST

he still has his contract with McClaren? That might be the reason

And Felipe still has duties with Claire so it's no problem

Yes I am. Home for Christmas

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_San_Marino_Grand_Prix

GOODBYE GUYS THANKS FOR EVERYTHING

LOL

JK

What was this meme race?

I wonder how will Claire cope with Bottas moving to Mercedes to get pegged by Susie? How will it affect their season at Williams? Will she lash out live on TV because Susie keeps flaunting the key to Valtteri's cock cage? Will she try to seduce Toto to get back at Susie?

She needs to sign some alpha AF guy as a reserve driver, otherwise she will have no one to fuck her and keep her satisfied.

youtube.com/watch?v=UXuEvuyyy4k

AN ICON

I just got a free subscription to Time two weeks ago, if that's the first issue to show up, I'm going to be so mad.

>DELETE THIS

Thoughts on Motorsport Manager?

It looks alright, but a lot of people seem to be complaining about some blue flag problem, aswell as a the cars being too unreliable and having to repair gearboxes and stuff mid-race which isn't done in real F1.

>Are those complaints legit?
>Would it still be worth it if these things are true?
>Are there mods/upcoming updates to fix these issues?

I really wanna move on from using Grand Prix Manager 2 whenever I feel like playing a F1 management game. Setting Windows to 256 color mode for that game is really annoying

>become his generation's greatest driver
>his generation
>he just has to beat Vettel, an exposed carbabby champion

>Setting Windows to 256 color mode for that game is really annoying
download PCem from pcem-emulator.co.uk/ and emulate a pentium 233 machine, install win95 or win98 and play like there's no tomorrow

They fixed blue flags this time with the latest patch. You still have to repair shit but only at like the first couple of races I find.

I like it. It is fun

>lewis is just partying in the off season

tell me again why drivers are the highest paid on the team

why does this one binland poster have such a hard one on for amx

Why is Capito kill?

Because alot of the Principal Race officers have some sort of stake or equity in the team

Winter Stream: Deutscher GP 96

>Hill On Pole
>Berger Leads Until Engine Failure
>Hill Wins

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He was a Ron Dennis hiring. I think Zac Brown was too, lel.

I don't want Massa to become another Barrichello. His retirement moment was great and he went out "in his own terms" (or at least it appeared to be so).

Returning now reeks of desperation and will likely end up worse for him at the end of the season, when he is beaten by a fucking rookie and is kicked out of F1 unceremoniously.

Just give the seat to Nasr instead. We get a Brazilian who has a link to Williams from his test-drive in 2014 and is old enough to do marketing for Martini.

>Nasr

Not old enough. He's 24, needs to be 25. And he's not experienced enough for (((Stroll)))

With Massa to Williams:

>Martini gets old/marketable enough driver CHECK
>Williams doesn't have to start the new regulations with two new drivers=stability to the team CHECK
>Stroll gets an experienced, race winning teammate to copy car setups, gear shifts and braking points from CHECK
>Bottas gets to go to Mercedes and finally win a race (only Irvine, Alesi, Boutsen, Mika, Fisichella, Rosberg 2.0, Button, Trulli, Barrichello and Webber took longer than 77 races) CHECK
>Mercedes get a 1:1 replacement for Rosberg (but faster and less emotional) CHECK
>Massa gets one more season in F1 and a 1,5 million dollar raise from 2016 CHECK
>Princess Pascal gets shipped off to Blancpain GT Series KEK

Everyone wins.

Kek'd at the last green text.

>>Mercedes get a 1:1 replacement for Rosberg (but faster and less emotional) CHECK

However he's not as pretty. Bad for ads.

When will F1 drivers go back to simple helmet designs that a child can draw from memory?

The only non-nigger-tier designs in 2016 were Bottas, Palmer, Nasr and Rosberg.

He clearly is going for full Rubens mode

You can interpret it whichever way you want but the reality is that his contract was not being renewed and they were going to have another driver driving his car in 2017. He made this into a retirement announcement, which is fine. It happens all the time and its great to be able to "retire" instead of being forced out, searching for a seat and then never coming back.

It's a bit sad because his send off was perfect and his supposed final season came at the point where you could see it was time for him to go, it was clear he wasn't driving as well as he could have in the past, and it was just clearly the right moment to go (really would have been after 2015 but whatever).

Now he's coming back after having mentally checked out already, with half the pay he got previously in a manner that is so clearly just a grasp to fill the seat because Williams don't want 2 rookies. The fact that you can bait a veteran driver out of "retirement" so easily is just too telling.

What's next season gonna be then? Massa somehow reinvents himself or its going to be 2016 except with more spins and more struggles, getting beaten by Stroll for good measure

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And
>half the pay he got previously

No. He will get 6 million - that's 1,5 million more than 2016.

91st for Ferrari becomes WCC next year.

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Would it actually be possible for Wehrlein to not get a drive in F1 for 2017? I mean that would be hilarious. I don't think they would throw him in some shitty GT series or back to DTM, probably just make him a Merc "reserve additional third important simulator testing and computer games driver" and have him race against Hamilton's and Rosberg's old sim ghosts for a year straight.

I would take him over eternal Guti if it came down to it, but Wehrlein could fuck off if it opened up a drive for Ferrari to buy Giovinazzi at Sauber.

Impressive to win a wdc without a single podium

Ferrari will be 4th at most next year and the next.

Yea I noticed that mistake afterwards after checking the salaries. Must have gotten it mixed up. I guess what I am remembering is the amount his sponsorship brought to Williams along with him or something like that

Photoshop some robot parts on a monotone Valterri and he's perfect for that ad

Dont need to repair shit if you dont go full retard on overtake engine mode in the first couple races. Also most of the time you can limp the couple of last laps home if you have troubles.