Libtards will deny this

>libtards will deny this

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what did he even promise
not everyone is a libtard
or american

>but we can pay for a "huge" wall using taxpayer money xD
>louder with chowder

we have a containment board for you foreigners now. everyone is assumed to be an american male on Sup Forums.

You're an idiot.

>spends $1 trillion in Iraq

Mexico will pay for it.

Fuck off back to SA goon

na, im in vermont, its great here.

What promises, you fucking retard?

Said nobody ever. Vt is a shithole

lol no its not, you clearly arent from america.

nah, instead lets build a fence for 25 billion. that makes more sense.

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you don't have to be a libtard to realise the wall is a bat-shit idea. Especially considering it's americucks that are ruining america.

>free college
>free healthcare
>free whatever people want to get their vote

Me too user

If you killed 100% of the retards, 100% of OPs would stop shit posting

We must establish communism

Considering illegal aliens cost the US tax payers $100 billion a year, the fence will pay for its self in 4 months after the mass deportations end.

>free college
>free healthcare
We had that for decades, seriously burgers, how bad are you at managing your expenses ?

I'd rather see tax money spent on education and healthcare instead of being pissed away on Republican Welfare so that people not cut out for college can stay employed shooting brown people.

Oh well this is posted in Sup Forums so it must be legit. We'll just pretend like proof and facts don't matter

>Considering illegal aliens cost the US tax payers $100 billion a year,
Saying something doesn't make it true.

Where's your math?

>thinks anything is free
They've got you libtard and eurocucks chugging that koolaid, don't they.

WE DON'T NEED PROMISES WHERE TRUMP'S GOING

Where's the statistics that they cost 100B a year? Also, a wall isn't going to do shit. The overwhelming majority of illegal aliens come in on valid visa's and overstay. Only a small fraction comes over the border.

And a wall won't even stop them. If you make it 30 feet high, they'll just use 31 foot ladders.

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>and we still elected a president with intangible promises
>like: make America great again

Hey, Bernie isn't prefect, but he'd be a better president than the ass clown we have now.

>Considering illegal aliens cost the US tax payers $100 billion a year

>>Where's the statistics that they cost 100B a year?

abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317

State treasuries in places like Arizona, where they claim in that state alone illegal immigration costs about $2 billion. That's a single state.

How knowledgeable are you on immigration policy in the USA? It's very clear that illegal aliens draw an extremely disproportionate amount of welfare in food stamps, housing support, education for illegals who aren't paying taxes to support their school.

Neither of those things have ever been free in the US.

they wouldnt need a 31 foot ladder, a 26 footer would be about enough to get over a 30 foot wall.

>thinking anyone interprets "free" literally besides their strawman librul
Americlaps need to be genocided

>The overwhelming majority of illegal aliens come in on valid visa's and overstay

That's why ICE is going door to door deporting the illegals we've known about for years, the illegals with criminal records, who live here freely, documented, with criminal records. And people are outraged that we enforce our laws and are getting criminals out, who first entered this country illegally and then committed crimes against it.

That article clearly lists that that figure is an estimation from a conservative advocacy group

abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317

abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317

just keep posting it, theyll shut up eventually.

See

Most illegals don't even utilize socialism our government provides to the poor because they're afraid they'll be deported.

Its mostly white/black trash that take the benefits. And what we do spend on those things is a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on military.

So they just made it up? Weird.

And then it quotes specifics like the Arizona state treasury saying that illegal immigration costs their state about 2 billion a year. That's a single state out of 50.

Does that not sound high to you? $2 billion dollars funding people who don't pay a cent in income taxes?

How is $100 billion an outrageous figure? What figure do you think illegal immigration costs the USA? You're not offering any counterpoints. You're not offering a single data point that says illegal aliens cost any less than $100 million.

Can you give me your estimate, and then I can dismiss it because it was made by a liberal advocacy group? It's not like I have to read it or the facts they quote from state treasuries who have to fund public programs that illegal immigrants disproportionately take from.

It's a widely known fact that illegal immigrants draw a ton of welfare. It's a widely known that that welfare spending is one of the highest portions of the USA budget. Why are you disputing that illegal aliens don't cost $100 million? Can you tell me how much they actually cost?

>>Most illegals don't even utilize socialism our government provides to the poor

You're a fucking idiot who really is brainwashed. It's a known fact how much illegal immigrants draw welfare.

Please kill yourself for spreading your literal made-up idea in your head because you don't want to think the poor hispanics are lazy people.

usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/01/immigrant-welfare-use-report/71517072/

They're known for inflating or outright fabricating data to support their perspective. What's it like being gullible?

Did the math, while you were right about the military, deviding it by the 20mil students would give each ~300$, you are wrong about the 1%.

Taxing the 1% (making about 18% of the total income) 100% would give each college student 158.503,42$. Way more than actually needed.

>things that are "free" in literally every other developed country

>thinks his sources have no bias
Oh. The koolaid must taste so sweet.

It's not just a wall, Merc...highly trained ICE agents shoo....escorting the dirty bea... foreigners back to their homes

So what is incorrect about their estimate? Show us your estimate. You can't? Then get the fuck out.

>illegal aliens cost the US tax payers $100 billion a year
>fence will pay for its self in 4 months

no citation to prove that number is true
so dumb that you assume a fence will actually stop illegal immigration forever

nice job bud
good b8

Trips of truth!

>we
This doesn't necessarily mean the U.S., it means wherever he's from.

>>They're known for inflating or outright fabricating data

So if it costs Arizona $2 billion a year to fund illegal immigrants, how much do you think it costs the other states? Are you saying the Arizona state treasurer is a liar who is fabricating data to support his "perspective?"

Let's say Arizona is a freak example and every other state only pays half that. That's $51 billion a year going to illegal immigrants every year.

The wall would be funded in 2 years, and within 10 years we would have saved $400 billion from leeches using welfare in the United States if we could send all illegal immigrants to deportation camps.

>implying I'm liberal because I don't trust an estimation from a single biased group

I'm all for some form of anti-immigration legislation. I just don't want to form my entire theory around a single estimation from an obviously biased source.

>You're a fucking idiot who really is brainwashed. It's a known fact how much illegal immigrants draw welfare.
Who has actually spoken with people of this group about this very subject. Unlike your retarded ass. I think you're the one who's brainwashed. You sit behind a screen and read articles and take them as gospel.

but this is Sup Forums. there is a board for foreigners to discuss their unique perspective. this isnt it.

>I just don't want to form my entire theory around a single estimation from an obviously biased source.

Tell me how much you think illegal immigration costs if you don't think it costs $100 billion a year. Can you post some unbiased sources, or at least some

>Who has actually spoken with people of this group about this very subject.

Speaking with a bunch of wetbacks doesn't make you any better than anyone else.

Go look at the article I posted. It has facts in it. Facts from the government agencies about how many illegal aliens take how much money from government programs.

More than half of all illegal aliens take some form of government welfare. It's a fact. Talking to some spics doesn't make it not a fact anymore.

Again, I ask you to kill yourself for failing to read the article I kindly posted. Are you a spic, too? Is that why you didn't read my article? Can you read English, Jose?

Illegal immigrants use more welfare than native born, legal Americans. It's a fact. Kill yourself.

Fair enough.

I guess that fact he called the guy "burgers" might have been a clue he wasn't from the US

this
It's like they think they're clever when they point out free healthcare is paid for by tax money. No shit.

>secular talk
Is it literally just an atheist saying how he's an atheist?

As a Swede I don't really care what you do in America, but I can't help but feel sorry for Americans. Sure, we do pay a little bit more in taxes, but life is seriously sweet when you don't need to worry about education, healthcare and all the other stuff we take for granted that's paid for by taxes.

I don't understand why anyone would oppose this type of system. It benefits almost everyone. I mean it's not like us Swedes are poor because a bit more of our money goes towards taxes. We've got plenty of money in our pockets.

>It's a fact.
How are you so sure? Have you seen the books? Do you work in a welfare office and have a disproportionate number of illegals come in? You know that Mexicans aren't the only people here undocumented, right. Not every illegal immigrant is a spic you cunt.

So let me get this straight. Your facts are more factier than my facts because you got them from printed news off a website? The sad part is you don't know how ridiculous you sound.

You only say that because you've been brainwashed you censored media.
Fake news.

>Free healthcare is paid for by tax money

>Tax money
>Paying for health care

>20 million illegal immigrants in the USA
>Four times as many illegal aliens in the USA, as the entire population of Norway
>Two times as many aliens in the USA, as Sweden

>Comparing Sweden and Norway's national healthcare system to the USA without comparing the burden of giving 20 million people (2x or 4x the population of the examples) without any of them contributing

>Not every illegal immigrant is a spic you cunt.

The vast majority of them are, I'm sorry you are still denying facts when they make you feel bad.

Can you explain the growth of the hispanic population in the USA, when we only let in a few hundred thousand Mexicans a year legally?

Brainwashed how? Into being happy?

Fun fact: Conservatives can't do math.

>It benefits almost everyone

Like I said in
Sweden's population is 10 million.

There are twice as many illegal aliens living in the USA, and exactly as many on welfare, as Sweden's entire population (which has very high taxes, very high wages, and very low unemployment.)

How is that going to work in a system where we have 20 million people who already draw welfare (not even medical expenses from the state), and who don't pay income taxes?

How do you expect to support 20 million people's healthcare costs when 10 million of them already need to be subsidized, and don't even pay into the system?

True,

But that doesn't change the fact Hillary was/is worse than Trump

And #2 Bernie sold out.

And 3# the Dem party is corrupt as fuck and Bernie is still part of it.

So.. I wouldn't vote Bernie next term now either.

Dems legit made me Republican.

youtu.be/Od9qx0ZEzK0

You mean since Trump took office..

>Americunts telling others how their life is
I seriously hope the Muslims kill of you

Well, it can work in sweden.

In america we have too much dependence on corporations, because the government doesn't like to use its money on anything other than defenses.

If our healthcare were government run, it would be ran with deplorable conditions. Look at America's DMV or public schools for an example. They can barely pay their staff or for the equipment they need to keep in business.

But private funding is showing to be no better, because unless you can turn a profit, which hospitals and schools tend not to, then the project is neglected or completely scrapped.

We're pretty much fucked either way over here.

Well it's a good thing they're all getting kicked out back to their shitholes, can you say the same?

>and Bernie is still part of it.

Imagine being such a beta loser that your party literally conspires against you to get a retard woman on the ticket, and you give that woman your recommendation and tell people to vote for her.

Because there country is a Joke and has been for years as they have fallen from any glory they once had.

There people get louder and louder screaming about how great they are since it is too hard to admit they they are a shell of once they once where thanks to the idiocy of people voting for what amounts for a 2 party system where both serve the rich and just have a difference in social values

yea, it shows how bad trump really is that he couldnt have gotten bernie on board.

Ever.

And like many people said, they come here legally with a visa and overstay. They know how the system works and a lot of times don't want to take advantage because their not just money grubbing scum trying to get by on the bare minimum. You can't send food stamps back to your family when they live in another country.

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Why would he want Bernie on board? Why do you want the person who claims "white people don't know what it's like to live in poverty" to be in any position of power?

Why is it that all these "white" Jews are really keen on telling white people what they can and can't experience?

>the Dem party is corrupt as fuck

And the Rep party isn't? Why? Because they wear it on their sleeves?

>You can't send food stamps back to your family when they live in another country.

You can send your USD made from working under the table at a Mexican restaurant, while earning $100 more in foodstamps for every shitskin kid the single mom illegal immigrant shits out.

Not that user, but I agree, both parties are corrupt.

And they love to point out the others whole turning a blind eye to their own.

Just a bunch of Bipartisan dickholes.

because bernie had to pick between one of those two when he finally lost because of the dnc's bullshit. if trump were so great you would think bernie would have an easy time telling the dnc to fuck off, but he was so backwards and retarded that bernie had to endorse hillary.

and they still lost to the retard.

isn't the wall only like $12B? Even if it were 30B that shouldn't be that big of a deal. I don't understand why people get upset over a few billion after trillions in wasted spending. Just use the money. Build the wall. Get these losers out of the country. Start putting people back in jobs. It's stupid that I'm buying Chinese food made by Mexicans.

>if trump were so great you would think bernie would have an easy time telling the dnc to fuck off

Why would Trump want the endorsement of a racist who tells white people they can't experience poverty?

Why do you support racists who think white people are privileged over other people and can't experience hardship?

>politician making ridiculous promises

Where have I seen that recently?

>not counting support, supply,logistics, corruption and pension costs not given in the gubernents cost report
>Still believing its only 1trill
You're a moron, but at least you tried

>I don't understand why people get upset over a few billion after trillions in wasted spending
Sunken cost fallacy

Also a wall won't do shit to help.

you would prefer to buy chinese food made by americans who get paid twice what the mexicans get paid?

Do you want to experience poverty? Does that sound pleasant to you?

I think he wants it made by undocumented Koreans.

>trump tards actually believe this

>Also a wall won't do shit to help.

What is your suggestion for ending the illegal immigrant problem?

I hear all the time a wall wouldn't do shit to help, but no one else is offering any good ideas.

>Do you want to experience poverty?

I do, but according to Bernie Sanders, despite me earning under the "poverty" income bracket I don't know what it's like because I'm not black or a different color.

My struggles are being invalidated by a racist who thinks I can't experience hardship because of the color of my skin.

ITT
>cucked moronic faggots drowning in either jewish controlled trumps cum or jewish controlled hillarys vaginal spurge
>thinking there is a single difference between republicant/democap

Great Goy! Kill yourselfs faggots

Loooooooooool fucking vermont

Most immigrants come by PLANES and overstay visas. Dumbass.

able to do simple math =/= libtard. You're dumb as fuck.

Not him.
He said that in front of a group of businessmen as far as I remember, I don't think he stated it was meant in a racial way.
The fact they were all white kinda proves the point though.

>>Most immigrants come by PLANES and overstay visas.

And how are we going to stop them and get them out of the country? What is your solution to getting 20 million illegal immigrants out of the country?

Could it be you actually don't want to get them out, and by saying a wall "wouldn't do anything," you're simply enabling them?

I'm very open to suggestions on how to stop illegal immigration and how to get illegal immigrants out.