Why poor people vote against their own interests?

Why poor people vote against their own interests?

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Why do people worry about what happens in other countries, is a better question.

You mean poor whites... and in that case, its because they are brought up to work for what they want, and if they fail at life, to accept it and move on.

Poor whites, the proud ones, would rather die in a ditch than ask for gibs

Because the ultra wealthy will it. Marketing and public manipulation are basically solved sciences; we know how to make people want or believe whatever we choose.

That's why I'm so indecisive about what I want my goals in life to be, after success. Should I help the people? Should I take advantage of them so I can make the most money possible?

Ultimately the question is "Do they deserve to be helped?" And that's something I've been having a lot of trouble with.

This is correct.
Poor whites that don't live in urban areas(niggerfied) don't blame their life on anyone or expect anyone to change it for them

Coupled with the fact that poor rural whites are basically failures at life leads to systemic poverty for them and their idiot children.

Because they're all fucking morons.

What do you base failure/success on, owning a specific car, house, etc? Or happiness?

Basically, trained from birth to not expect the government to do its job and help the people out.

And then gets mad that other countries treat their people better.

because its not about whats good for you right now its whats good for the nation and your future children, i state of slaves on the government dole is bad for everyone. go back to Venezuela

You would be confusing truth with the brainwashing that swept the country after the civil war. Rural whites dont move because they love where they are from. They also tend to live mostly in the south. Post civil war the industry of the south was destroyed. Railroads destroyed. Fields destroyed... what that means is without infrastructure all industry moved north leaving the rural whites to fend for themselves.

Yes, the civil war is still relevant in many ways 160 years later

Poorly educated, working shit jobs for shit pay, have way too many children that have to grow up poor because mommy and daddy were too stupid to advance in life and have less children.

>all industry moved north leaving the rural whites to fend for themselves.
Sounds like they got what they deserved for engaging in rebellion.

t.Childless nonwhite NEET

Rural whites couldnt care less what happens in other countries, nor are they really mad about the government, other than wishing it would stay out of their lives.

Again, poor rural whites are the last group to put their hand out and say gibs me dat. The Democratic party exists only because its voters vote based almost solely on "what will you give me for my vote" mentality

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More to the point, the guy you're replying to is wrong wrong wrong.

The South had 'never' had any real industrial strength before the Civil War. They were almost exclusively an agrarian society, growing crops, either as poor white farmers or rich plantation owners with slave labor.

>The Democratic party exists only because its voters vote based almost solely on "what will you give me for my vote" mentality
Heaven forbid that people prefer their government to invest in them rather than pissing it away so people not cut out for college can join the military.

Except for things like Medicare, right? And food stamps. And welfare. And Section 8 housing. And pretty much all that shit that they ask for

Right. Great fucking idea. White people need to have less children. I mean, this is the kind of tactical thinking that puts Sup Forums at the forefront of thought

People who cannot afford to have children should not have any children, regardless of race.

Maybe they aspire to be something grander than
a cog, to be used, in your globalist fantasies?

Since nothing Liberals do or say matters, fuck off?

Yeah, poor retarded whites need to have more kids so we can get to Idiocracy as soon as possible.

>leftists wonder why they lost the white vote

no wait no they don't because it was the russians

Government doesnt exist to support a people. It exists to defend national interests and provide infrastructure.

Government should basically never touch your life, nor come into your daily thinking. If it does, it needs to be pruned back

real answer below:

>republicans promote the reduction of benefits as "keeping the cheaters/scammers out while keeping honest users in". people mistakenly believe that they will get more of the pie if there are less leeches draining the system, so they vote for stricter laws when end up against their own interest

>Work 25 hours a week
>No experience
>Make too much to qualify for any program you're talking about

Why would I vote democrat if they don't give me shit? If you benefit from their programs then you're a fuck up.

Do you think that someone with effectively no education, since highschool was basically extended babysitting for anyone who wasn't prepped for college, is able to discern their own interests? Do you think that they are going to be able to effectively pick out which politicians are going to put political capital behind which policies, and work out which of those policies are going to serve their interests?

You don't give the poor and uneducated the right to vote because it somehow enfranchises them, you give them the right to vote because it enhances the power of those with the tools to mobilize the populace in large numbers without requiring those shaping public opinion to murder one another to seize power.

Medicare is earned. Section 8 housing basically doesnt exist in rural communities.

>implying voting blue is in the interests of the poor

I dunno, OP. It's almost like poor people are stupid!

>Government doesnt exist to support a people.
This is what stupid people actually believe. Meanwhile, they advocate pumping more money into Republican Welfare (military) that goes to waste.

Rural people just shouldn't vote.

Fuck off with the political threads

Are you really asking why someone would want to stop everyone from getting free everything and living like braindead lardasses? The poor are poor because of all of these handouts.

Yea they must be distracting you from jacking it to tranny porn.

>don't blame their life on anyone
Are you fucking kidding me? Those people blame Obama for everything. Coal miners in their 30s who have families blame Obama for the industry dying and their kids going hungry, not the fact they shouldn't be having kids to begin with.

You didnt make it very far in school did you?

Of the 4 largest ship yards in America, 3 were in the south. So were all of the factories that processed the food like wheat and cotton. The top 5 largest docks in America were southern... and connecting it all together was roads, bridges, and rail roads.

The idea the south never had industry of any kind is BS parroted by northerners as a reason why they were superior.

>Of the 4 largest ship yards in America, 3 were in the south. So were all of the factories that processed the food like wheat and cotton. The top 5 largest docks in America were southern... and connecting it all together was roads, bridges, and rail roads.
Citation needed.

no dependent on government handouts.

Odd, they had all those shipyards and ports and somehow they were utterly defenseless against the Union blockade. Were they just incompetent?

because they are paying for it.

sure kid

The military is just about the only expense that a government can justify. In fact, the military was meant to be the ONLY reason for the first American income tax

Fast forward a few hundred years and the topic has been so bastardized we are sitting here bullshitting on a mostly non-american message board

sure kid

Why do they keep making up lies about people they don't know?

Money moves North to South in terms of Federal tax dollars to services.

not cut out for college.
my aren't we high and mighty.

Soldier detected. Have fun dying for nothing so that everyone back home can forget you ever lived.

in keeping them poor.

as the child of a rural white family I disagree

parents basically worked their asses off so I could have a better life than what they got as kids

it's not so much intelligence as it is responsibility that will take a person through life and help them succeed; if you take responsibility for yourself and your actions and do what you gotta do then you can be successful and happy but if you always blame somebody else for your failures you will be miserable and never learn from your mistakes

well I found me a retard.

Because many of those welfare types of people who voted Republican is tired of being dependant on the government. They would rather have more opportunities to work for money and contribute to the community, than get a welfare check. A better economy will do exactly that.

the post that didn't need to be.

How is he retarded? That's basically what happened to all those chumps who fought and died for nothing in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

fails reading comprehension too.

There are plenty of opportunities for them to work, the problem is that they aren't qualified to do much more than physical labor. If they spent half as much time improving themselves as they spent blaming immigrants from taking their unskilled jobs they wouldn't be worthless.

>my aren't we high and mighty.
No that's just how it looks to you since you're looking up from the bottom.

And that is not correct. In fact 3 southern states return more money to the Fed than your poster child California does

Is California North?

Most of those poor rednecks actually aren't on any government aid, aside from being in too low of an income bracket to pay federal income taxes. Even in the South which is dominated by republicans, if you actually look at the districts which frequently vote Democrat, they're all intercity black areas, which is, also where almost all of the section 8 housing is.

chinese junta sent a trade mission to scope out the east coast discount/everything for the house car garage stereo & pantry in '79 ( govt employees only)
the lil fellas in green caps & suits,caps with a red star,walked up and down,seeing the vast aisles
loaded,neatly loaded with fronted mechandise,all top of the line stuff,japanese german,norwegian furniture, all stuff only their elites could access when travelling to europe,we had it all,for about half the price of europe sold stuff.
employees mostly had a working elsewhere spouse,and could purchase anything this store offered,for an additional employee discount, chinese asked themselves what did americas' system of private business do,that 50 years of centralized chinese mgnt could not? chinese answer we see over the past few years,they have become a loaner nation,we,they largest wealth
borrowing debtor nation,which debt interest we pay each quarter
goes to build them new modern military hardware.
clowns like the fat guy above are more likely than not,democrats,hillary voters.
that guy and those lo info democrat pals will either starve or go out and get jobs

Fuck off Yankee I'd rather be poor that suck on your economic bosom. Take your welfare dollars back and stop feeding all of our niggers.

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California is as yanky as it gets

>Rural people just shouldn't vote.

>People who not pay taxes just should not be allowed to vote.

Exception: five years honorable military service
Void if gender of applicant "changes"

fixed it for ya

kek

sure kid

>Because many of those welfare types of people who voted Republican is tired of being dependant on the government. They would rather have more opportunities to work for money and contribute to the community, than get a welfare check. A better economy will do exactly that.
That's retarded, literally mentally handicapped.

Some of us are cut out for greater things in life than military service. Asking us to put our lives on hold so we can intermingle with the rural filth in the military is just ludicrous

I mean, the poorest city in the States became that way as a direct consequence of Obama shitting all over the coal mine that supplied their economy. It was a direct 1:1 occurrence.

Although hilariously enough that 95% white town's crime rate is still significantly lower than the wealthiest black area which does a lot to answer OP's bait.

>Why liberals are worthless, all in one comment

Natural gas is the reason why coal is falling out of favor.

Why would you not? Eventually their problems will become your problems.
>overpopulation
>global economies
>war
>disease

>says the guy who considers being in the military an accomplishment

>says the "guy" without balls

>relies on military employment for income because he's otherwise worthless
>questions someone elses manhood

>military income...
>Desperately tries to justify his cowardice.

There is still quite a few white trash welfare families out there.

It's not in our interests if USA goes broke giving away free shit! Nothing in life should be free, and it does not work to just print more money ( hyper inflation ).

>Some of us are cut out for greater things in life
- seyz the King of de Gibs

Then do not vote, I respect your choice to not matter, even further.

It's not cowardice to not want to piss my life away when I have better opportunities. Military service is meant for people who don't have opportunities. Asking those of us who do have opportunities to take the place of those who do not is not rational.

>Military service is meant for people who don't have opportunities.
Or rather for people who wasted those opportunities.

Because ameriturds are fuckin retards
Not surprising since their education is shit
Keep spending hundred of billions in the military, it's not like you need infrastructures, education and basic rights like healthcare...

trump will make it so much worse, when he's done they will officially be a country of poorfags with 90% eating shit, 10% owning everything and 0,1% being God on earth.

It's cowardice to look down on those allowing you to live to see those "opportunities".

You're confusing me with someone in the military, where they really do not matter. If they mattered, they wouldn't be volunteering to go die so they can pretend they protected americas freedom.

Because they know the sooner that we let them die off. The better the country will be.

sure kid

LOL It's funny you think this guy is out to help you. How about we get them to pass laws stating they have to obey all laws we do except Pol. speech.

trumpanzee spotted

how's having the biggest retard on the planet as president working for you?

You should check the dictionary and see what "cowardice" actually means. I do look down on them, I won't deny that. I look down on them because they are beneath me. My personal disgust for them does not equal cowardice.

we'll be drafting soon so you'll get your chance.

There's a reason stupid follows fat, and they both follow poor and uneducated...I could draw you a map but it would be a very simple one.

Why do city people vote forcefully fuck over people in other states because they hate state laws.

They're the sheep who help us educated ppl get republicans voted in. They're just as dumb as the niggers and beaners, but we use them to our advantage. That's life.

talk about misinformed.

Yea good luck. It'll be hilarious to see the government try and fail to draft the people they've been working to fuck over.

You're not willing to fight for what you have, but are fine with others doing so for you. I don't need the dictionary, I'm looking at the definition of a coward.

An arrogant one at that, so even more pathetic.

found another retard.

They're idiots. If you're a NEET or work in government vote Democrat, if you're not vote Republican. Be selfish and vote for what helps you out the most. Simple.

so you are a self righteous coward

Got it