The DCEU is off to a MUCH better start than the MCU was

The DCEU is off to a MUCH better start than the MCU was

Iron Man > Man of Steel

The Incredible Hulk

Don't you have anything better to do than try and bait you absolute faggot? This is a legitimate question.

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I hope they keep spewing out mediocre shit until the capeshit bubble bursts from oversaturation. Any day now.

Marvel won't fall. DC will only damage themselves and maybe Fox.

Was the Joker autistic?

Samefag here

I just realized I was on Sup Forums and not Sup Forums

As you were OP, as you were.

Why the fuck do you guys pick sides? You have no stake or involvement in either of the companies. If you're a fan of comic movies why WOULDNT you want to atleast see some sort of adaption of the source material. Given, DC is fucking it up how they approach that material. Why shitpost about hating DC. If you like comics don't you want to see some these characters brought to life. Because we sure as fuck aren't going to see another reboot atleast for another 10-15 years

Suicide Squad is by far the best DC film at the moment. SS was so entertaining and a fun watch that makes you wanna see it again

If dc keeps making disaplointing movies they can spoil the market for marvels films too i think.

I personally hate Spiderman being in the Avengers. We could have seen a Sinister Six movie instead of a shitty Homecoming reboot

I kinda agree, I think its due to they set out to join the films together in some way very early. TIH and Iron Man feel very disjointed, IM2 doesn't do much but be a boring flick while setting up Avengers, and TFA could well have been non canon without the last scene.

I feel like when the DCEU has a number of substantial installments, watching them in order of chronology will result in a more tightly knit package than the first Marvel films, who didn't really get their shit together properly until Avengers onwards, and even then Thor 2 and TWS feel very detached

>If dc keeps making disaplointing movies they can spoil the market for marvels films too i think.
this makes no sense at all

I think he means that they'll cause the inevitable bursting of the capeshit bubble, fucking shit up for Marvel.

Normies don't give a fuck about Marvel or DC. They see "superhero".

>I think its due to they set out to join the films together in some way very early
Looking back at all the "just in case" drug in MoS is pretty cool.

They even set up Super Girl and a future Kandor arc.

I liked the flick but the joker was literally the worst part about this film, if they made him some random retard who wouldn't leave them alone fine, but as a powerful crime boss he was just not believeable and didn't feel threatening at all

>Normies don't give a fuck about Marvel or DC
are you serious? of course they do! They literally do see Marvel and DC films.

If Marvel keeps getting good reviews then of course that won't bring Marvel down.

I'm of mixed feelings with the Joker. I get the impression he is supposed to be a manipulative and unpredictable psychopath, but the film only shows a single moment where he's manipulative (and we only see the end result, not the process) and a single moment where he's unpredictable (which had half the moment cut). The cut scenes probably fucked his characterisation over, but I'd still like to see a solo Joker film where everything is played straight, instead of cut and pasted.

His deleted scenes would have made him a lot better

>are you serious? of course they do! They literally do see Marvel and DC films.
They see "Superhero" films user. The studio is inconsequential. There's just superhero films.

>The cut scenes probably fucked his characterisation over
it did watch this
An important Harley and Joker scene was sadly cut

>There's just superhero films.
Marvel = Superhero action films

DC = Detective thriller films

Learn the difference.

Batman V Superman wasn't even a super hero film really. It was more of a detective political story and Suicide Squad is about a group of criminals not super hero really.

They see films with certain superheroes in it, not exclusively films just because Marvel made it. If that happened every marvel film would gross over a billion

I think that they feared the repercussions because of all that abusive relationship dynamic going on. The feminist overlords would have never approved these scenes

>They see films with certain superheroes in it, not exclusively films just because Marvel made it.
I disagree. Of course they see Marvel. Marvel's logo is over all of their brands of course and so is DC over their films but also read this
Marvel and DC are 2 different genres

>Batman V Superman wasn't even a super hero film really. It was more of a detective political story and Suicide Squad is about a group of criminals not super hero really.
This nigga gets it. DC is trying something different with their universe and getting punished with it. Shame, especially given with Batman as the central character it SHOULD be a darker thriller kind of film.

>The feminist overlords would have never approved these scenes
and yet it was okay for Joker to tie Harley up and say "I am gonna hurt you really really bad" and damage her psychologically

Seriously lots of girls in my cinema found Joker hot as I heard them talk and never said "wow so shocking with what he did to Harley"

Batman Begins and TDK are the same type of dark thriller. Not super hero like Marvel at all.

Anyone who calls DC super hero flicks do not understand the genre at all.

I just like the DC universe better. Marvel could have the better films all they want, I still don't give a toss about any of the Avengers, but I'll see a film in the same universe as Batman exists in any day of the week, because I find it more interesting.

So what?

it goes like this
captain america 1,2 > batman reboot 1,2,3
ironman1 > MoS
avengers > JL (pending but probably true)
hulk1 = green lantern
CA civil war > BvS + SS

Autism

Explain

That's fine as long as you don't fool yourself into believing DC movies are superior or masterpieces as some more delusional fans do.

>I still don't give a toss about any of the Avengers
For me, my favorite Avengers are Iron Man, Ant Man and Spiderman. I don't care about Captain America nor Thor.

DC has a way better set of heroes and villains (although you gotta admit that Spiderman's villains are some of the best which sadly Sony/Disney just are not doing them justice as Sam Raimi did with his trilogy).

Also I LOVED the Suicide Squad group of characters. I hope to see them again. WAY more entertaining and engaging than seeing the Avengers together on screen

They're at best 8/10s and at worst 5/10s. I don't see the marvel films as any better or worse than that, they're more straight and flashy action films as far a I'm concerned.

Don't listen to this jerk
he is just memeing

>he doesn't like the films I like!
>he must be autistic!

Literal autism, user. You should get that checked.

>DC is trying to do something different with their universe

No, they're doing the exact same thing and trying to make it dark and gritty because it worked when Nolan did it.

I do praise Ant Man is one of the best MCU films due to how good the CGI was.

DC needs to fix up their CGI otherwise Suicide Squad is just way more entertaining with way more charisma than the boring Avengers fighting.

And how can anyone not find Harley and Joker a great set of characters?

>No, they're doing the exact same thing and trying to make it dark and gritty because it worked when Nolan did it.
If the lack of action scenes and levity in MoS and BvS didn't clue you in, then you must be stupid. They're not action films. Marvel films are action films.

>They're not action films. Marvel films are action films.
FINALLY someone gets it

Seriously DC is a complete different genre compared to Marvel.

Yes the "kino" meme may sound stupid but it makes sense with them NOT being "action flicks" as Marvel films are

An example is Mission Impossible 1 and Mission Impossible 3 directed by JJ Abrams

MI:1 is a spy thriller whilst MI:3 is upfront action

Same as Alien 1 compared to Aliens. 2 DIFFERENT set of films with 2 different genres. 1 is a suspenseful horror the other is action adventure

You can't compare the 2 the say way.

Villains? Yes

Heroes? Eh... Not really.

Also what the hell was engaging about the Suicide Squad? They barely spoke to each other.

>Also what the hell was engaging about the Suicide Squad? They barely spoke to each other.
I can going to pretend I didn't read that. You cannot be serious

Not having levity doesn't make them thrillers, it makes them dark and gritty action movies.

>Also what the hell was engaging about the Suicide Squad? They barely spoke to each other.
haha you could say the same thing about Mad Max Fury Road.

>What was so engaging about Fury Road? Max barely spoke to anyone

>it makes them dark and gritty action movies.
You know what doesn't make them action films? Lack of action.

Katana spoke to Deadshot ONCE in the entire movie, and had eight lines of dialogue overall. Killer Croc had seven lines in the whole movie.

I was surprised that Suicide Squad only had 3 action scenes and they were short. There was a ton of character building, character arcs among them instead of over the top action like Civil War had.

Read

Fury Road had Max say like 5 lines, the character barely interacted and that is regarded as a masterpiece even though it is a boring over the top mario kart desert movie.

If you are seriously calling Suicide Squad bad because the characters didn't do any monologues well the same can be said about a lot of Hollywood action films (but again SS is not a 100% action film)

>They see films with certain superheroes in it, not exclusively films just because Marvel made it. If that happened every marvel film would gross over a billion

trust me, they know the difference between marvel and DC and can easily see that in movies

I wouldn't be surprised if BvS sold better than Incredible Hulk, but Incredible Hulk was still the better movie.

I don't like Iron Man 2 very much and I would say it's slightly better than Suicide Squad. Iron Man 2 undoubtedly had better sales too.

This.

BvS has maybe 20 minutes of action in the entire 3 hour film. I'm pretty sure the Batman car chase is like 3 minutes, the fight is 7 minutes, and Doomsday is 10 non sequential minutes. That's not an action film.

The airport squabble in Civil War is like 15 minutes alone. Because it's an action film.

They're both action-packed.

"Man of Steel" third act is comprised nearly entirely of action scenes. Same applies to "Batman V Superman", though I'll concede they're padded out by a lot of investigation subplots.

>trust me, they know the difference between marvel and DC and can easily see that in movies
Why do they go in complaining that their DC film isn't light and actiony like their Marvel films then?

There's twenty minutes of action in BvS.

MoS has about the same. Honestly, look up the Kryptonion/Zod battles in MoS on YouTube right now. They aren't as long as you think.

"Fury Road" has a different approach and Max is the only silent character. But he still interacts with the other characters in other ways, unlike the Suicide Squad, in which Katana and Killer Croc and also Captain Boomerang spend most of their time filling up the background

because that is a solid complaint?

like you know the difference between burger king and mcdonalds, you know they are different things but you can still compare one to the other

>There was a ton of character building, character arcs among them

>People actually believe this

Holy shit.

believe what you want to believe

>I don't like a choice one studio made for a character
>better jump ship and shitpost in retarded bum fight threads

Why do we have sides? The whole versus just makes for a giant, overly drawn out moron against moron fight nobody enjoys

Just like Dawn of Justice

>solid complaint?
Why would you go in to a political thriller then moan that there wasn't enough levity and quipping?

I didn't turn up to the BFG and complain about the lack of fighting scenes, or the lack of endgame motive from the villains.

Because they're different films you retard.

>lack of action in MOS
> two thirds of the movie is straight up destruction porn.

Kek

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Neither are Marvel's. But they're still action movies and so are DC's.

>he didn't watch the bar scene
>he didn't see the poetry scene between Flag and Harley
>he didn't see the scene with El Diablo explaining what he did with the Squad

You have to be ignorant to not see so much character building that SS had

I am too fucking pissed to explain it out to you which I have done lots of times in other threads

Iron Man >>>>>>>> Man of Murder
The Incredible Hulk > BvS
Iron Man 2 > SS

just because something brand new is out fags like you think it's amazing and have bias for it because you haven't seen the other in years. you have the memory of a shrimp.

But thats untrue. Jesus are you just lying? Avengers entire last act is 30 minutes of an action scene.

BvS is not a political thriller, for one.

>I didn't turn up to the BFG and complain about the lack of fighting scenes
Legitimate complaint tbwhwymn

>im a delusional batfag
>I believe that prep time is a power
>I believe that plot armor bats is a power
>I believe bats can legit beat Speedforce Flash
>I believe bats can legit beat Classic Strange

LMAO

batfags are the worst.

>The Incredible Hulk > BvS
>Marvelcucks actually believe this

And so is MoS.

Keep telling yourself that, you're still wrong.

>literally nothing said
Ignored

you are saying the difference between a children's movie and an action movie should be equal to the difference between superhero movies made by dc or marvel?

>BvS is not a political thriller, for one.
Please tell me you are joking...

The battle with Zod is five minutes, with a bit of time before that

The bar scene where only Diablo and sort of Deadshot get a semblance of character development.

>they call eachother family
>boomerang comes back
>el human torch does for them
>literally no team interaction for this

>b-b-ut the bar scene
Smith just said they were the fall guys right after they realized Redneck Commander and Waller set them up the whole time

And then get this, they follow them! This tooootally makes sense.

IDK about the original cut, I feel like after hearing all the shit that trailer company did it was probably a lot better before, and maybe made sense. It just felt like relationships were seriously unearned and unexplained, I'm really curious if Ayer's original version cleared it up (and cut the second act in half, or better yet out)

Not sure about the intro either, it felt like capeshit Moulin Rouge which'd be neat if the plot didn't hit a standstill once they leave prison. Batman was great (felt like they cut the cartoon out and stuck it on screen), Joker was total ass, Deadshot and Waller were pretty good.

If I could sum up the movie (espcially character interaction and relation) it'd be gratuitous.

kill yourself

DCucks literally can't go a day without embarrassing themselves with butthurt threads on Sup Forums.

>your films gross less
>your films get worse review scores
>your films sell less merchandise


Give. Up. DCucks.

TIH is actually a solid flick that makes sense, and deserves the 60% it has.

BvS is a disaster, a mess. a terrible Lex, a fucking stupid plot, a retarded way to create Doomsday, the google scene, the El Flasho scene, incoherent scene jumps, a 5 minute battle between the stars of the title, and a terrible handle on quips.

I say again, you think BvS is better because of 3 reasons:

1. memes lol
2. DCuck
3. bias because BvS is newer, you let go of older things like a child/you forget

sit down.

>They even set up Super Girl and a future Kandor arc.

Can you elaborate? Its been a while since I've seen it

Just fuck off already

I dunno, I'm not on a side but I can see where BvS is better comes from. Absolutely Lex, Doomsday, and all that other shit was god awful, but Batman was pretty awesome and there were a handful of really neat scenes. Not smart, not artful, but cool. I think TIH was a bit bland, and while it did make sense it never picked up, and had nothing of note to it.

BvS- eating really bad pancakes BUT with 1-2 good bites
TIH- eating flavorless oatmeal

Marvel/DC fags will pick whichever one is from their side, but for everyone else it's whichever you'd prefer. For me, it's BvS by just a little. Any more Lex, and I'd by with the Hulk.

DC fag here, for me it's Spider-Man > Cap > Iron Man.

I was pissed they left the team interaction out and it was only Deadshot + Flagg + Waller. Like with only five minutes of added lines they could've explained everything. Including Boomerang coming back (he tries to excape but is confronted by the demons = 30 seconds).

Just watched BvS extended edition. I felt I needed more headcanon than with the first watch. It actually explains alot when you think Lex is: 100% insane genius with plans within plans (he could've just made the bullets from kryptonite, maybe even intended to do so, but wanted to go crazy with Batman) and Batman is insane at the start of the movie. I mean the desert part doesn't make any sense and the wheelchair doesn't make any sense.

I only prefer the DCEU because I prefer their heroes/villians over Marvel.

Marvel already did that with The Winter Soldier

>Lex
>In any way good.

Look, I'm all for well-done characters even if they are totally different from the comic book version, but his was bad in every way. Over complicated, under explained plan, motivation that never gets shown or doesn't make sense, scenes that are dumb and pointlessly sucking themselves off (which I suspect is Snyder trying to be artistic??), Eisenberg's stupid acting, it didn't fit, and to be honestly doesn't seem like it would fit anywhere.

I'd have liked it better if they straight up cut clips of Gene Hackman and stuck him in instead. Probably would've been more coherent

>Detective thriller films
It's nonsense like this that keeps pulling me back into these threads.

>We could have seen a Sinister Six movie
Produced by sony though.

don't give him the (you), it's what he wants more than anything in this life because he is a loser

>I mean the desert part doesn't make any sense

Desert (Knightmare) isn't a dream; its Bats getting a glimpse of the future in a possible alternate timeline because Flash travelling back in time like that causes "time booms" (look into Flashpoint Paradox). Also after Flash pulls shit like that time will reverse itself a little bit when its over which is why it seemed like he was dreaming but the papers were still flying around behind him when he "woke up."

>Iron Man > Man of Steel

Ruins the validity of your post

>mean the desert part doesn't make any sense
Can you elaborate? It did exactly what it was supposed to do

I'd say:
Iron Man < Man of Steel
The Incredible Hulk

I've seen this "explanation" countless times on this board. There is NOTHING in the movie to substantiate what you say. I won't go so far as to call it fanwank because it's from the comics, but Jesus H. Christ, imagine being a Chad and his girlfriend in a movie theatre seeing that scene when they turned up to watch Batman and Superman beat the shit out if each other. How this nonsense made it into the theatrical cut instead of CRUCIAL EXPLANATION OF THE LOIS LANE SUBPLOT beggars belief

The omega symbol etched onto the landscape during the "dream."

At least their seems to be some character or world impact in DCEU, I just don't like how Marvel doesn't even treat itself seriously, there is no suspension of disbelief. All "hardships" that befall on their characters never have them learn a less nor last through the whole movie. My favorite marvel character is ant man, i liked his struggle for his daughter but I know it doesn't mean anything.

I like that you can see superman change his ideals from movie to movie and how the world reacts around him. It's not for people who just wanna shut their minds of and watch a flick. That's why it gets so much hate. (that and company wars for some reason). but I like it

user they thought Fan4stic was going to crossover into the MCU. A couple groups (fucking groups of people!) at my theater complained BvS was too serious for Deadpool to appear in it. Normies are that stupid. Besides capeshit audience fatigue happened before and it can happen again.

Fuck shared universe movies in general are at even higher risk of this. They only exist because of Marvel and those have all been flops desperate to copy them. Stories keep coming out how all of Hollywood is desperate to copy the success of the MCU and these constant shared universe movie flops are the result of that. Remember when Sony wanted a Spiderman cinematic universe? How about the Ghostbusters cinematic Universe?