ITT bad leaders

ITT bad leaders

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Reagan passed the first no-fault divorce law in the US.

All California universities were free for all California born citizens until Reagan was governor.

Agreed

>responsible for the reunification of your shitty country
>bad
Krautcucks, ladies and germs

>implying Reagan was a bad leader
Under his leadership, the CIA pumped crack and AIDS into the ghettos to try and rid our great nation of niggers and faggots. That doesn't sound like a bad leader to me.

>Ideology can best be described as "political autism tantrums"
>made Germany lose the biggest armed conflict in human history
>Result was Germany getting overrun by slavs on one side and the eternal anglo on the other
>Promoted people shifting responsibility for their own fuck ups onto others
>His qualifications for being a leader were "shitty mustache", "failed art career", and "autism".

Of course he's Sup Forums's hero

Don't forget, he ended his time in his homeland like a true Aryan warrior, either shooting himself in his bunker or fleeing like a cuckold to another country

Such honor. And now his name is synonymous with failure, insanity, and cuckery.

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t. Descendant of an East Berliner

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Get on my level.

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>Nationalist & Socialist, borderline fascist
>Sup Forums would have voted for him
Reminder: Statism is cancer

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most correct post right here.

Time to move on, it's been over 30 years since he BTFO of the election. No one liked Mondale.

Not to mention the fact that he was one of the worst false flaggers ever with The Reichstag Fire, and he effectively fucked any chance at us getting to practice eugenics that would actually be beneficial (Like aborting a baby that would almost certainly have downs)because if you want healthier people, you're a raycisss Hitler sympathiser. Hitler was a fag t bh.

obvious jews or otherwise non whites

Hitler speech time.

Thanks for being wrong and having to be proven so right now.

youtu.be/pDLyKSYRqXM

She let the entire empire fall apart.
Has overseen the cuckening of the British Empire
>Lost Australia
>Lost Canada
>Lost Hong Kong
>weak successors
>female rulers ever

it's always americans who talk like this.
As well it is always americans admitting they are either mix race, hispanic or black or jewish.
You are brazil tier and you trying to talk about Hitler is like a brazilian trying to.

youtu.be/sle1E9QgHNE

Strategic Defense Initiative, spending a ton of money on defense and tripling national debt? Shitty president

Take it easy, bro

She had no power over this leaf

This guy's would indecision nearly cost us the union, cost thousands of lives, and his general lack of leadership was terrible.

He's only positively remembered because he abolished slavery (good) and was assassinated before his ineffectiveness could overshadow the emancipation.

any other european nation can go tit for tat with you and come out on top so don't even try fucking mexican/african/jew.
Learn your place as brazil tier already, the only thing preventing this is the fact you are the majority poster. Things will change strongly against you here if Trump doesn't win.

He forged the unity of the american nation, you imbred rebel bastard
If it was not for him, the country would have stayed these united states rather than THE united states

>As well it is always americans admitting they are either mix race, hispanic or black or jewish
Wew lad. You're not purebred either. Assuming you're like 90% of pepole above the Mexico/USA border, you aren't exclusively one race either. I have taken a 23 and me test, I thought I was full white. Turns out I'm around 48% Irish, 2% Hispanic, 30% Italian, 20% German, give or take. So, point being, unless you have a fucking Pedigree, don't go calling others Huemonkeys.
>Inb4 Italy and Ireland aren't white

we strongly oppose Obama's stance towards Iran. It's time to elect another Reagan.

The guy who sold weapons to Iran.

They both sold weapons to Iran, dummy.

He isn't without positives.

His time as commander in chief was terrible. He was not a good judge of the ability of his generals, and basically picked people who did terrible jobs until he lucked upon Sherman and Grant.

That, coupled with the deaths of several southern generals is what won the war.

I don't want a divided America, but he was not a good commander and leader, which is what this thread is about, frog.

>send declaration of war to Germany under phony pretenses of caring about Poland
>causes the biggest downfall of the european ever by aiding communists, jews, liberals and americans in taking down Europes power/capability.
>turns down peace agreement after peace agreement from Hitler , blocks this information from being evident to the british people
>Rudolph Hess is in disbelief that Britian doesn't want peace and actually goes rogue to fly to Britian and try to spread the message of peace but is captured and prevented from spreading this message of peace
>Churchill was a smoker, drinker, gluttonous eater, womanizer, overall rich faggot who actually couldn't accept not being rich anymore cause he spent money horribly and didn't make any of his own
>infamously one of the most well known Fall aristocrats of history who while being in office had debts up the ass to everyone and yet this half american was the man britian champions as some hero

Hitler speech on Churchill
youtu.be/VxczjJ_Atz8

Citation and more information on Churchills massive-PERSONAL debts while IN office

theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/01/why-winston-churchill-was-so-bad-with-money/419094/
Churchill- a fat degenerate who doesn't come close to being a role model.

You're not that bright, are you?

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Wow, you sound fucking mad. You talk shit as much as you'd like, but the fact remains that Hitler lost, the white man is doomed, and there's literally nothing you can do about it except continue to have autism tantrums while the world moves on without the most cucked race in human history.

>Granted 5 million illegals (re:democrat voters) Amnesty
>gun grabber
>passed no fault divorce laws
>trickle down/voodoo economics
>Iran Contra
>worshipped by cuckservatives
>still thinking Reagan was a good leader

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You're one dense motherfucker. Britain were the ones who wanted to avoid war you fucking idiot. That's not to say they should have done it, but it's not like Hitler didn't have warning. Are you forgetting that Hitler went into Czechoslavakia, Slammed the Slavs while Britain and France sat back and watched, allowing him to keep the clay, so long as he didn't do it again? And what does he do? Goes to Austria, and pulls them into it as well. Britain and France ignored Austria's cries for help while Germany was absorbing them, for the sole purpose of preventing another war. THEN Adolf decides he wants to play Whack-a-Pole, which pushes the Anglo over the edge. Reluctantly, they all go to war.

If you actually knew history, and looked at the things that he did, you'd realize.

I'm not saying he was a bad man. His general ineffectiveness cost us thousands of lives, and extended the war way too long.

If he were able to properly identify skill, the war would have been much shorter, and much less bloody.

How can you not understand this simple fact?

Jackson was the real military genius who nearly won Southern independence. Lee was just a hot tempered glory hound.

Always the American, let me educate you under the pretense you're not some foreign mongrel.

Britian had no right to deny Germanys claim that all German peoples belonged to it, ESPECIALLY the pre ww1 borders.

Additionally while this was going on and prior to it going on the Soviet Union was invading many nations and installing communist governments and forcing them into the Soviet Union. For decade+ this went on and during Hitlers reclamation of German territory.

So the accepted official idea is that Communists aren't as bad as national socialists and Britian was right to ignore and ally soviet union in order to always work against Germany.
This is international jewry. Do you understand that? The "crimes " committed by Germany were committed elsewhere in greater number by the soviet union and so this means the crimes don't matter themselves only WHO IS DOING THEM

the bias was real. international jewry was evident.

You've obviously only heard one side and should hear Hitlers declaration of war against Poland in which he details important things.
Assuming you have a mutual stake in the revival of ethnic nationalism in our nations that is.

youtu.be/pM1h_2ujsvs

He passed the emancipation proclamation, and got us through a terrible war. Historians also generally consider him our greatest president.

>Muh borders
>Muh Jewish Conspiracy
>Muh struggle
>Muh Stabbed-In-The-Back Myth
>Muh cucktastic videos

My sides, oh christ

Oh my god, it's like you didn't even read what I wrote, and just looked at the god damn picture.

The emancipation was good. Getting us through the war was good.

We got through the war IN SPITE of Lincoln. Not because of him (in the beginning). He backed the right generals after a few years, but the first generals, and next round, and next round for two and a half years were abysmal failures.

Dont they same the same about JFK who was only in office for two years?

Being assassinated can really get you a lot of cred

Yeah, I'm gonna trust actual historians than your faggot ass

chucky ar la

is that all you have are desperate memes? Try posting citations, speeches, ANYTHING.
Everything I say is echoed by the original source. Meanwhile all you have is this insecurity in your race, what you are and what would happen to you when our ideas return.

There is no reason to feel bad for you.

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>Historians
>Not biased

Pro-tip: They are. A historians view of history is not the "correct" version of history. He just putting forward arguments as to why he is correct about his judgment of history.

Had you studied history you would know this.

national debt means nothing

That's funny, because both liberal and conservative historians credit him as being our best.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

Also, pro tip: you know nothing about how great this man was to our country u stupid fag yuropeean

Historians ate literally just doing what I'm doing right here.

Putting forward a statement, and backing it up.

If you think that this warrants forgetting about Lincoln's bad sides, fine.

I'm not saying he didn't do great things. The emancipation proclamation was great. Somehow allowing the north to survive is great.

Read about the early generals for the north. General Burnside, General Hooker.

He suspended habeus corpus. He literally suspended one of the amendments to the constitution. Surely even you can understand how that is dangerous for a president to do, and not a characteristic of a good leader, can't you?

There's gonna be a bad leader here in just a minute... in this very spot!
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>The hamlet of Reagan

>liberals and Conservatives both put Woodrow Wilson in the top 10.

What the fuck? Wilson was utter garbage.

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That's fine. This thread isn't "who do historians all agree was bad" it's "bad leaders"

I believe Lincoln was a bad leader. He did a lot of good things, but of he had been slightly different (better judge of skill, better at handling certain things) her would be, hands down, the greatest president there ever would be.

Also, he gets a LOT of wiggle room for abolishing slavery (a good thing)

>So the accepted official idea is that Communists aren't as bad as national socialists and Britian was right to ignore and ally soviet union in order to always work against Germany.

The soviet union was on Brits shit list up until operation barbarossa asshole. They wanted to ship supplies and arms to Finland, but faggy neutral Norway and Sweden wouldnt allow them axes to pass through (because the Brits actually respected neutrality, unlike Germany)

Theres literally no proof for this vast jewish conspiracy at all.In fact, a record number of jewish germans volunteered to fight for Germany in WW1 to show the country how patriotic they were, and then when they lost, Hitler managed to shift the blame all on them.


fuck off with your shitty youtube meme history

Did they survey historians who specialize in US presidents?

Honestly, just because you are a professor or anything doesnt mean your opinion of all world history means more than anyone else. Historians, like most academic groups, also are divided in to specialized areas.

Anyway, even IF they did agree you can still put forward a good argument that he wasn't the best. Such is history. There is no black or white, no right or wrong.

>Muh speeches
>Muh citations
>Muh charts
>Muh master race which somehow manages to lose every fucking war despite being "superior".

Holy shit, the fucking country was splitting in half, do you think that might've warranted some extraordinary actions? He won the war by the way, stay mad southern fag

Maybe this will help you understand:

General Grant, amazing General. Absolutely incredible.

President Grant: a drunk, absolutely horrible, ineffective president.

Just because someone does some good things, doesn't mean that they're perfect

Sup Forums should be pleased to know that Trump is largely a reincarnation of the Reagan candidacy. Both started as political outsiders, were brash and outspoken, were masters at manipulating the media attacks against them into positive ploys, and lacked the initial support of the Republican party.

Reagan ran on big grandiose ideas that many dissenters scoffed at, such as the media dubbed 'Star Wars' defense plan. Know who else has big, crazy ideas? How about Trump and the wall?

There are those who suggest Trump might even be like another Reagan blowout.

The Krauts I have talked to said communism ruined both the East and the easterners
They say it would have been better off to keep them walled off in their own containment Zone

Also have a candidate for bad leader

>axes


*access

lol

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did Estonia redo this gif themselves or did someone take mercy on them

I think Eesti did it.

You're right, we should suspend the constitution during every war (wars are extreme situations), out totally makes sense to override rights and guarantees when it's inconvenient to follow.

I understand now you're just a boot licker, who is a lapdog to authority. I'm sorry I've wasted my time trying to explain an actual thought process to you.

Enjoy your increased government overreach into your personal life (I'm in Connecticut, born and raised in Danbury, thanks though)

>President Grant: a drunk, absolutely horrible, ineffective president.

President Grant was surprisingly pretty naive and put his Trust in corrupt advisors. Warren Harding would later have the same problem.

Lol. If he hadn't done what he did there'd be two separate countries. Your idea of the Constitution would've been moot since they probably would have had to rewrite everything

Yet East Germany is the last place where red-pilled Germans exist in greater numbers.

Belligerents.

The U.K only ever helped the Soviets because that alliance with communism mattered so much to them they were willing to do disgusting things such as attack finland, attack frances navy when they conceded, cry for foreign help such as for u.s or anyone who would come to europe to help them. Disgusting behavior.

Also you don't know anything about ethnic nationalism, at least certainly not national socialism if you think bringing up jews fighting in ww1 matters.

The goal was the preservation of the race , foreign and international elements eliminated.

The jew was attempted to be deported but no one wanted to take them. My own nation of Canada rightfully turned them down.

news.nationalpost.com/news/none-is-too-many-memorial-for-jews-turned-away-from-canada

Germany had no where to send the jews and so they did what had to be done.
This is important to note because any other foreigner can be deported back to the home nation. The jew is unique in that it is a literal international element whose entire existence is reliant upon the weakness of nationalism and hence will always work towards its self preservation- no matter the class or ideology of the jew they are all enemies of the ethnic nationalist state anywhere.

Also let me inb4 replies regarding Israel right here.
youtube.com/watch?v=3nq2uQQbEg4

You keep saying master race, you're ignorant obviously. Keep using buzzwords because that has not been said by me or in any speeches I've linked or even implied.
You're in the deep end of certain insecure tier ignorance that only screams * im not white *

If he didn't waste a hundred thousand lives on terrible generals and dragging out the war, and picked the right people from the beginning, then the war would have been over in two years.

But okay, ignore facts

why do Finns think they're relevant in any way to Europe and the world?

As they say, a W is a W, right?

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literally none of this autistic shit matters. Hitler was invading other countries and ruining europe because he and his beliefs are literally nigger tier and he got shut down hard.

and now, years later, other autist look up to him as some sort of power fantasy.


Theres literally no proof of any jewish conspiracy and Hitler mudered his own country men who fought and bleed for Germany simply because they were part of a weirdo religion that wasnt really popular.

Not surprising, that's probably one of the reasons the ones from the West hate them

>no-fault divorce
This, he even said this was the biggest mistake of his presidency

That matters in sports, where losses are forgotten.

When your losses result in 400k deaths, it's a little bit harder to just tell the losers to "get over it."

You understand that people in the middle east hate us right now because we blew a lot of them up, right? They're not going to just stop because we won.

Winning a slow drawn out war is less preferable to winning it quickly.

The destruction that was wrought upon the south took a hundred years to rebuild.

We're still dealing with issues as a nation (poor people, lack of infrastructure down there)

They supported the lesser threat against the bigger threat you idiot

Germany was on the verge of invading the Home Islands. The Soviet Union was a shithole full of potential cannon fodder which could atuallly stall the Wehrmacht. Attacking Finland, thus lessening the burden over the Soviets, was more important than letting the Germans rule all of Europe

And Jews were an integral part of Germany for hundreds of years. There's literally no reason to think that they decided that they'd suddenly colapse the nations that were housing them and actually progressing towards accepting them.
You don't bite the hand which feeds you

That's because the Middle East is not our problem. Our only goal is to not let them get powerful enough for an all out war. The south was something we had to destroy and rebuild

I just said why the jews are enemies. What do you mean proof? The jew is an international element, a foreigner of europe originating in the middle east. It does not belong in Europe and should be removed just as we would deal with any other foreigner. What part of that do you not understand? Well of course you aren't a nationalist due to either being a foreign mongrel or just currently ignorant. Watch enough of Hitler so you can make a proper decision.

Also I stated certain things regarding
>Hitler was invading other countries and ruining europe
in my previous comment

Hitler on jews.
youtu.be/_0V_xf3OQgM

Destroying half of the nation and rebuilding is an incorrect position. All it did was create a smouldering hate, rather than work to move is together

I think slavery is the wrong position. And the south wasn't going to give up that right without force

Actually the bigger threat to the existence of the european people was the soviet jewish influenced union, and the increasingly jewish influenced capitalist west.

Also " Germany was on the verg of invading the home islands "
Wow I have to prove so many people wrong constantly.
You realize Hitler wanted peace from the moment war started to the moment it ended? Britian at any time could have accepted peace. Everything Germany did to Britian was being forced by Britian itself.
In fact the first act of aggression was committed by the western allies who entered German territory and thus not only by sending the declaration of war- but by sending soldiers into german territory- forced a conflict.
If they didn't do these things Germany never would have attacked them and simply would have lead them for when the fascist parties took over.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_Offensive

Fuck off East Germany.

youtube.com/watch?v=tpH5L8zCtSk

But the jews were literally doing nothing which could threaten German national sovereignity. They lived like Germans, talked like Germans, voted like Germans, wotked like Germans for hundreds of years. They were Germans, but with a different religion

It's funny that you ignore the fact that the only reason that Britain could actually dismantle Germany after WWI is because there were millions of other ethnicities living under the German Empire. These people deserved the right to self-determination. Why should they live under German rule?

Accepting peace at the cost of losing Europe to Germany and to National Socialism?
No country would ever accept that. If Hitler actually wanted peace, he wouldn't have had invaded Poland, Czechslovakia and Austria.

The Saar Offensive happened after the war started you shitter

Kid, the war was started by the western allies sending the declaration and then France sending soldiers into Germany.
Do neither of these things and there would have been no aggression by Germany against the west. Which is what should have happened.


Also you already made a giant mistake by mentioning religion and jews. The religion is not relevant, why would you think it is.
Many jews are atheists, karl marx is an atheist. They're ethnic jews.
Jews is an ethnicity, do you understand that it is a possible outcome in a DNA test for a reason?

Well you are being educated so that is good.

youtu.be/AKnTPFBwtjc

Germany started the war on the 1st of September, with operations starting at 4 am
The Allies only started declaring war on the 3rd.

Yes, Jews are an ethnical group, I don't contest that. It's a mistake to classify them only as a religion. That is why we can affirm that their culture was and, even today, is deeply connected with the German one.

Also, I'm sorry. I can't watch videos right now. If you could just say what they say through text, I would be able to better debate on these issues