Name me a better fictional Star Trek race

Name me a better fictional Star Trek race.

They're so interesting and charismatic they basically stole the entire show for themselves.

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Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.

They're the best, but I bet kanar tastes nasty

GAS THE BAJORANS!

RACE WAR NOW!

t. Gul Dukat

what did he do

Its was really just Dukat who stole the show. He made the Cardassians.

>Not based simple tailor Garak

>just Dukat
>Not Garak
>Or Damar
>Or Tain

come on now, pretty much all the recurring ones were some of the best characters from the series.

Was administrator of an occupation of a planet that resulted in six million people being killed.

Also sells out the human race and everyone allied with them to an alien empirical race of shape shifting liquid people who despise creatures made of solid matter.

Cardassians aside, DS9 is some amazing comfy televsion. 173 episodes of good sci fi fun.

>6 gorillion!

He made one mistake, he didn't kill them all.

I imagine its fermented fish sauce

Pretty easy when they're contrasted with the "oy vey muh 15 million" Bajoran religious fucknuts.

No I mean, their whole 50 year long occupation had just 15 fucking million casualties total or some such, in an interplanetary fucking war.

15 million casualties? I mean really, these space-faring fuckers ain't got shit on the human race. No wonder we're top fucking dogs in the Star Trek universe, the russkies had 26 million or so casualties in world war 2 alone and that was fighting with the star trek equivalent of sticks and stones.

IN FIVE YEARS

Reminder Dukat did nothing wrong aside from perhaps being too leinient with the Bajoran terrorists, and except when he accidentally got himself stuck on the station while the boobytraps were going off and when he tried to screw over a rival politician by separating that politician from his son, but then he accidentally left a trail of clues and Garak caught him, and maybe that one time he accidentally got that chick pregnant, and when his whole life was ruined when he forgot that the prophets were omnipotent beings inside the wormhole, and one time he tried to convince Sisko that he was perfectly sane, and went about this task by talking to imaginary tulpas, also the whole becoming Space Satan thing might have been ill advised.

Well the Sisko tulpa and space satan things were after he lost his daughter, his command, and basically everything he worked toward over his career.

He wasn't exactly mentally competent enough to be considered accountable for that shit.

>It's a "Dukat is an evil space pope" episode

They truly were the best race.

Now the real question is which human country they were supposed to be.

it was 50 million

>it's a Dukat becomes evil because the plot demands it episode

Only completely forgetting about his whole Cardassian family that im sure was killed during the Jem'hadar raids on Cardassia Prime sure his wife left him but he completely forgot all about his other kids

US of A

>Space Pol Pot
>Space Khmer Rouge

The Feds could have wiped out their entire fleet with only three Nebulas but for the bleeding heart world peace crap.

wow, it's fucking nothing

WW2, 60 million. Eat shit Bajor. In those fifty years, more people died of OLD AGE.

DS9 master race. literally.

One of the most overlooked aspects of DS9 was how they managed to get a fantastic cast of villains and evil races, all on the first go-around.

TNG tried a bunch of different unsuccessful villains before finally hitting on the Borg
>Q does whatever the hell he wants and is just too OP for anybody to do anything to him
>Ferengi are capitalist space-jews and Americans didn't feel comfortable making capitalists the villain while semi-socialist Feddies get the glory
>the bug things just didn't go anywhere
Even the Borg were just a tad overpowered and could only appear in a few episodes—put a single Cube up against the UFP for more than 45 minutes at a time and you're looking at the collapse of the Alpha Quadrant

Meanwhile, DS9 had Cardassians, the Dominion and the Breen. And within the Dominion you had Jem'Hadar, Vorta and Founders, each being dangerous in their own separate way, and all fantastically portrayed whenever they come up.

the cups thread could have been the greatest trek thread since gay klingons

>people who think that Worf is a good example of Klingon society
He only knows what he could read about Klingons in Federapedia.

if this wasn't pasta before it is now

Not all Star Trek races are countries.

For example, Klingons were only the USSR in Undiscovered Country and they only really mirror the USSR in it's collapse (a catastrophic industrial accident which bankrupts the empire). Klingons in culture are more like a generic warrior culture mashup of Mongols, Samurai, Maori etc.

Romulans are only China in so far as much as Maoist China was incredibly secretive and insular and outsiders knew jack shit about it. Romulans on the other hand, have far more in common with the Roman Republic.

Cardassia for example is largely a stand in for Nazi Germany (Totalitarian genocidal police state) but they could also be a stand in for North Korea.

Star Trek writers take elements of real world political systems and events, but no Star Trek race is really like a real world equivalent except the federation which is similar to the EU.

If you don't like Garak, you don't deserve to watch Star Trek

The Ocampa when they have long hair

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I hear those numbers are greatly exaggerated too.

ehhhh.. I dunno if Quark is True Neutral, he was kind of conscientious underneath and cared about his neighbours on the station

also I'm not sure if I'd agree with the Romulan being Neutral Evil. I never really thought of them as evil, just distrustful of other races.

To be entirely fair, we don't know Bajor's population. 50 million deaths is peanuts if they had 10 billion Bajorans during that period, but if it's out of 200 million then it's the end of the world

He is certainly not good. Caring about good party members survival and prosperity doesn't make you good. You can be evil and still want your friends to do well.

Vulcans were neutral to a fault. That is literally their defining characteristic.

>not the Andorians in Enterprise

Vulcans have strict code, but their code is a non-interference and betterment of species. A vulcan wishes for people to survive and prosper, but would not sacrifice another race to do so. Like in Insurrection, they would not chose to move the Ba'Ku, for their culture deserves a chance even though "the prime directive" does not apply. The Vulcans would not allow grey territories to muddle their logic. They see things as black and white and have conviction in the face of more tantalizing offers.

Gonna have to disagree with you on that one. They were definitely Lawful, seeing as they followed logic 24/7. They were Good, since they wanted good things to happen to people.

REMOVE SPOONHEADS

REMOVE HASPERAT

The actor for Shran did a fantastic job.

I'd totally ravage Talas

Jeffrey Combs, same guy who did Weyoun and Brunt in DS9

I like that they kept it faithful to the original series but their design was really awful. If they could make Klingons look cool, why not Andorians?

And The Question in Justice League Unlimited
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and Wormtongue in Lord of Rings

I liked that guy, really seemed to get into every role.

Nice try, I almost fell for it but a quick internet search confirms no he did not.

They really improved upon them in Enterprise. What with the animated antannae. That and the costumes really fit in with their whole "Imperial Guard" background.

It's pronounced prim eh val right?
not prime - evil

No that was Brad Dourif as Wormtongue. Aka Voice of Chucky from the Child's Play films, Doc Cochran in Deadwood.

He was in Star Trek Voyager.

Was a canon explanation ever offered for why some Andorians had wiggling antennae and others had ridges?

He played a couple other parts that people don't remember as well. Including an appearance on Voyager.

Ah yes, Brad Dourif. Also, don't forget his classic performance as Dr. Herbert West in Re-Animator.

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Fall for it? Lol, you got fucking tricked. I'm not even that retarded irl.

Fucking rused. Lol.

He was also, like Bard Dourif also in a film by Peter Jackson.

Little more than a costume update that they didn't expect most people to notice. They never would have been able to animate those things in ToS, they're purely cosmetic.

Is there a canon explanation ever offered for why some Humans have earlobes and others don't?

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you guys should watch Reanimator on netflix

Sticking your dick in crazy is always wrong.

T-there are people without earlobes?

>For example, Klingons were only the USSR in Undiscovered Country and they only really mirror the USSR in it's collapse (a catastrophic industrial accident which bankrupts the empire). Klingons in culture are more like a generic warrior culture mashup of Mongols, Samurai, Maori etc.

TOS had bunch of places where it mirrored cold war with proxy wars and shieeet.

Soviet Union was Army with a country during cold war.

Because they looked cool enough already.

Best Mad Hatter.

Yup. Learn to biology. This is basic knowledge which anyone who graduated high school should know. I really hope you're just kidding because otherwise that's really embarrassing.

Not WITHOUT earlobes, but some have attached earlobes.

>Pop: 3,8 Billion
Yeah it was fucking nothing
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>Memory Beta
Lol?

Genetic diversity. No other explanation needed