Was Britain declaring war on Germany in WW2 the biggest strategical blunder in the history of the human race?

Was Britain declaring war on Germany in WW2 the biggest strategical blunder in the history of the human race?

(Hitler wanted Britain to be allies)

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Indeed.
At least hundreds and thousands of us fought for the Nazis, at least I feel that some of us did respect Hitler.

No, Germany was a rogue state. It was just to wage war against it.

How is Norway when it comes to rapefugees?

No. Germany becoming a nazi state and declaring war on European nations was biggest strategical blunder in the history of the human race.

The war had NOTHING to do with Germany being "nazi" (national socialists), and they didn't declare war on European nations. They invaded Poland for legitimate reasons - that's all (Austria wanted to be united with Germany - some still do even today).

No, we need to declare war on Germany again

>They invaded Poland for legitimate reasons
Reasons like?

>oh look germany and poland are gonna goto war
>hey there polack wanna sign this treaty of mutual protection? just "in case" germany reacts to your partisan attacks in the near future???
>kek, the poles got steam rolled
>whats that the soviets are attacking your eastern border? oh well, never forget those "secret protocols" (that suddenly appeared after ww2 was over). b-bye comrades!

Kile detected.

>invaded an another country
>legimiates reasons

nazi lovers ladies and gentlemen

Yes. Allying with the communists against the germans was a retarded move. They ended up losing their colonies and more. Then the americans repeat their mistakes by allying with the talibans, going against Gadaffi, Assad. Everything that is bad for europe, the anglos support it.

Every war Germany started was just

Every war Germany started was either:

Reconquering recently taken land

or

Defending ethnic Germans abroad

Like Poland wanting Danzig for themselves, even if 90% of the people living there were German?

Like murdering and harassing Germans living in Poland?

Like denying any offer from Hitler for a solution?

Germany dindu nuffin they was guten germanics

Like being tricked by Britain into a war Britain wanted (to prevent a powerful Germany).

whoa there look everyone its france. who suddenly dusted off a 20 year old alliance with poland and claimed it was a legitimate reason to declare war on germany after the invasion of poland. sure was great we setup that league of nations bullshit so that wars wouldn't be declared and spread all over the world.

Are you suggesting there is no reason to invade another country?

Kike*

>(Hitler wanted Britain to be allies)

and we saw how he treated his allies

GOTT STRAFE ENGLAND

Europa ville være et mye bedre sted , men nå er det bare lukter en gammel fjert.

>joos!
Get laid.
>Like Poland wanting Danzig for themselves, even if 90% of the people living there were German?
So? It's their territory. That makes Germany sound like a petulant child.
>Like murdering and harassing Germans living in Poland?
You mean like the Germans were doing to minorities in their country? Only that actually was happening.
>Like denying any offer from Hitler for a solution?
Why would you negotiate with someone who is a proven liar?

>Was Britain declaring war on Germany in WW2 the biggest strategical blunder in the history of the human race?

Germany started the war, also GB declared to be in a state of war acknowledging international law which Hitler failed to do

"In the communication which I had the honour to make to you on 1st September I informed you, on the instructions of His Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, that, unless the German Government were prepared to give His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom satisfactory assurances that the German Government had suspended all aggressive action against Poland and were prepared promptly to withdraw their forces from Polish territory, His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom would, without hesitation, fulfil their obligations to Poland.

"Although this communication was made more than twenty-four hours ago, no reply has been received but German attacks upon Poland have been continued and intensified. I have accordingly the honour to inform you that, unless not later than 11 a. m., British Summer Time, to-day 3rd September, satisfactory assurances to the above effect have been given by the German Government and have reached His Majesty's Government in London, a state of war will exist between the two countries as from that hour."

If the assurance referred to in the above communication is received, you should inform me by any means at your disposal before 11 a. m. to-day, 3rd September. If no such assurance is received here by 11 a. m. , we shall inform the German representative that a state of war exists as from that hour.

ibiblio.org/pha/bb/bb-230.html#118

>(Hitler wanted Britain to be allies)

then why did he break the Anglo-German Naval Agreement?

>Hitler wants peace after occupies the danzig corridor
>winston churchill being the anti white warmonger wants to keep fighting at the cost of millions of white people just so Germany won't get in the way of muh monopoly
>become American debt slave and lose all colonies anyway
>fight alongside commies just for 50 year cold war afterwards
>anglos

Self hating Germans are scum, I'm glad your country is gettting destroyed. Serve you eurocucks well

>So? It's their territory. That makes Germany sound like a petulant child.

Hmmm.... would you feel like that if eg. Florida and Texas was GIVEN to Mexico just 21 years ago - in 1995? (It was stolen from the US and given to Mexico by foreign powers).

>You mean like the Germans were doing to minorities in their country? Only that actually was happening.

No it wasn't happening really. Enemies of the state was gathered in camps (like Japanese were being in the US).

>Why would you negotiate with someone who is a proven liar?

How was he a proven liar?

>Self hating Germans are scum, I'm glad your country is gettting destroyed. Serve you eurocucks well

Who asked you anything Narco? And indeed, those who do not fight for what is theirs are doomed to perish.

perhaps then the USA should give back all of texas south and west of the nueces river as that is what was their territory before the mexican american war.

germans were being brutalised by the poles and it is well documented. the germans had removed the threat against the undesirables already by locking them up in concentration camps.

where exactly did hitler lie? he was about as straight a shooter as any politician can be.

Just

When will you people understand that the british guarantees deterred Germany

It was only in April when Germany sent its delegation to the Soviet Union

If the Soviets didn't ally Hitler, there would be no war, because Germany was actually afraid of Britain initially

Poland, Britain, and France all had a pact. If either of them were attacked, the other two would also have to join in the fight to help their ally.

Germany invaded Poland. This is what initiated WW2.

To all the neo-nazis: Remember that Hitler is the one who deteriorated Europe. The destruction of infrastructure was rampant, millions of white men (over 50 million) lost their lives in battle, and Hitler had plans to liquidate Slavic people.

Soviet oil and grain made the Western campaign possible, without this and the troops that otherwise would have needed at the Eastern border German ywould not have been able to wage war in the West. In 1940 52% of all Soviet exports went o Germany.

and when the soviets invaded poland the pact of mutual protection actually turned into a booby trapped aimed at germany not a guarantee of protection for poland

>eternal anglo

Germany declaring war on the US was the biggest strategic blunder in the history of the human race.

Danzig was part of Germany given to Poland post WWI.
GTFO Ahmed.

America was always jewish puppets. You supported communism. You are complaining about how europe is cucked with immigration but you are the ones who forced us to accept these policies. Because it makes your jewish overlords happy. You even mutilate your baby boys to please the jews.

The UK is becoming an Islamic Caliphate

unless that was the goal all along , then just for that reason alone (there are a million other terrible consequences but) - yes

Definitely.

Germany: He Britain lets be friends, and you keep Empire.

Britain: No lol

Fast forward today...

First Muslim Mayor of London.

Poland did not possess Danzig, it was a Free State under control of the League of Nations.
If Hitler had wanted that back, he should have negotiated with the LoN.

There were no attacks on Germans, these press reports were staged by Goebbels to fuel anti-Polish sentiments and make the public ready for war.

He lied in his public speeches, he broke all treaties such as the Anticomintern Treaty with Japan, the Anglo-German Naval Agreement, the Munich Agreement, the Non Aggression Treatiws with Poland, France, Denmark etc.

wrong. 1 month before the invasion of poland britain and poland signed a pact of mutual protection (against germany). france and poland had no official alliance or pacts, but they used a dormant guarantee of independence of poland in order to get in on the action. it was all very unlawful and contrary to international laws setup such as the kellogg briand pact.

>hitler had plans to liquidate the slavic people
just

It was inevitable they would clash. The Jews needed America to join the war.

youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c

>Danzig was part of Germany given to Poland post WWI.

no it wasn't, retardinho. It was Free State with a guilders currency pegged to the British pound
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_City_of_Danzig

Well we are the eternal anglo after all. If you come to England, take some time to put your ear to the ground at night in a rural area. You will hear the whirring of machinery. That's mecha-Churchill's life support chamber. It's buried hundreds of feet beneath the ground.

US didn't even want to get involved, we were recovering from the Great Depression
Then the Japs decided to stick their dick in the hornet's nest

actually barbossa it was a 'free city' and was self administered. danzig had a referendum and wished to rejoin germany. hitler wanted poland to recognise german control of danzig and provide a land corridor to the city. after british collusion the poles refused and instigated the destruction of their government.

The americans embargoed japan, you can't pretend that you didn't get invovled when you clearly took a side in a conflict.

The US was already in the war at that point, they were sending pilots over the the RAF and escorting shipments to Britain with their Navy.

WW2 was the best thing that could happen to you after the depression. It was the reason you guys got out of the mess.

You were selling arms to Europe and fuelling/financing both sides of the war. It made you very rich. The UK was losing its grip on the war so, like WW1, the Jews brought you guys into the war.

Watch the video.

the USA didn't like the Japanese invasion of China and had no obligation to deliver strategically important material to the Japanese aggressor.

>deliver
it was a blockade

The polish attacks on germans were documented in german, Polish, British and american press that im aware of

Unless Goebbels was in in charge in all of those countries id say your argument doesnt hold up

Yeah, they sided with the communists. They sank trade ships going to japan, you're clearly a kike.

We placed the embargo on them because they did the same thing to us in Indochina in 1940

all this information is contradicting each other

every user constantly says something else


I dont know what to think anymore

If that makes you feel better about supporting Stalin then sure. You go girl.

The Nazi regime was creating a hell on earth scenario. There was no way any reasonable person would side with them.

shouldn't sink US naval vessels then
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Panay_incident

And yes Japan indeed tried did embargo all supplies to China, even invaded French Indochina in 1940 for that purpose, the USA objected this because they had strong economic interests in China.

His country was being invaded by murderous fascists, no shit we're gonna help him out, just like we helped out England and France. Do you not get how an alliance works?

>It was Free State with a guilders currency pegged to the British pound

Maybe a good reason for the British to declare war on Germany just saying...

Anyway, you're German and COMPLETELY brainwashed by allied propaganda after WW2. You people actually know the least about ww2 truth.

>The polish attacks on germans were documented in german, Polish, British and american press that im aware of
>Unless Goebbels was in in charge in all of those countries id say your argument doesnt hold up

Goebbels made press conferences to impress the Alliied and neutral press, non-German media indeed reprinted German propaganda.

You supported Britain against russia during the revolutionary war. Please stop being a retard.

Theres a documentary called the greatest story never told

It is propaganda kinda, but everything in it is true and pr3esented fairly clearly

Its been around for a long time and people have tried and failed to debunk it

Its like 6 hours long or something, but if you watch it bit by bit youll understand a lot more by the end of it

and everything in it is true, feel free to research anything you dont trust yourself- its all above board

>Maybe a good reason for the British to declare war on Germany just saying...

why is that?

>Anyway, you're German and COMPLETELY brainwashed by allied propaganda after WW2. You people actually know the least about ww2 truth.

LMAO I actually corrected your brainwash propaganda nonsense. If you would know anything, you would come forward with some facts rather than cheap rants.

He convinced the polish media that attacks were happening in poland?

>He convinced the polish media that attacks were happening in poland?

why Polish media?

>Was Britain declaring war on Germany in WW2 the biggest strategical blunder

Wars are fought by the bankers/mercantilists as a way of generating profits. Both sides of WWII were controlled by the same people.
Read these books for more info:

Rule by Secrecy:
archive.org/details/pdfy-ucQki46Eld-swOxZ

The Rise of the fourth Reich:
conspiracyschool.com/sites/default/files/resources/The-Rise-of-the-Fourth-Reich-Jim-Marrs.pdf

Protip: The Queen of England is German

We didn't just support Britain, we fucking invaded Russia. I know my history, Sven. Do you know the meaning of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?" There were bigger issues than communism to worry about, friendo

none of these is true you snownigger

You're one of the germans who deserved to die but didn't. It's a shame. So many innocent people died but you're still alive. Please kill yourself to rectify this mistake.

>Hitler wants peace after occupies the danzig corridor
nice baitu

>Do you know the meaning of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"

This is why ISIS exists. Good job burgerbro.

>these hitler bootlickers
A unified Europe was a threat to Russia, Bongs, and Ameriburgers. Therefore the powers outside of yurope (Brits I guess) did whatever the could to stop it.

Read and learn, faggit amazon.com/Operation-Snow-Soviet-Triggered-Harbor/dp/1596983221

lmao people actually believe this

bongs signed the death certificate of Europe when they started WW2.

Britain didn't start WW2 you silly fuckers, fuck degenerate nazi lovers seriously

Are you dense? Bashar Al-Assad wasn't our enemy.

>why is that?

Actually that was mostly BS. The main reason for Britain declaring war on Germany was simply because they felt Germany was becoming to powerful (economically). It had NOTHING to do with Germany being "Nazi".

On a somewhat sidenote Britain was probably more racists than Germany back then, and the US even more so - but today people due to propaganda believes that the "nazis" were the racist ones.... it's in-fucking-credible how good propaganda works!

>you would come forward with some facts rather than cheap rants.

Look them up yourself - but you won't because you're brain is completely ruined by propaganda since even before you were born. It's too late for you to see the truth. It's like a religion for you.

For me trying to tell you the truth would be like me trying to tell a muslim that Allah doesn't exist... an impossible task (even if I'm right).

>You're one of the germans who deserved to die but didn't. It's a shame. So many innocent people died but you're still alive. Please kill yourself to rectify this mistake.

it must be a sad life to be be weak and pathetic and the laughing stock of everyone...

Was Dresden also Faked?
mileswmathis.com/dresden.pdf

Yes they did.

They could have forced a diplomatic solution between Poland and Germany.

Or they could have not started WW2 by declaring war on Germany.

Only reason they did so was because they wanted to keep the empire plus control eastern europe.

In the end they lost everything, now welcoming first muslim mayor of london

Carroll Quigley would disagree.

they forced a diplomatic solution between Czechoslovakia and Germany, clearly it helped everyone

>Actually that was mostly BS. The main reason for Britain declaring war on Germany was simply because they felt Germany was becoming to powerful (economically). It had NOTHING to do with Germany being "Nazi".

GB didn't start the war though.

>On a somewhat sidenote Britain was probably more racists than Germany back then, and the US even more so - but today people due to propaganda believes that the "nazis" were the racist ones.... it's in-fucking-credible how good propaganda works!

Germany fucking up the whole continent killing millions of Europeans was the real issue.

>Look them up yourself - but you won't because you're brain is completely ruined by propaganda since even before you were born. It's too late for you to see the truth. It's like a religion for you.

I debunked your nonsense within a fingersnap - it is you posting propaganda BS here, not me.

>For me trying to tell you the truth would be like me trying to tell a muslim that Allah doesn't exist... an impossible task (even if I'm right).

you did not provide one singe fact, all you did is claiming and ranting.

No, it was getting involved in WW1

Who was the loser in that solution exactly?

A meme made up country who had territory it never should have had.

>A meme made up country who had territory it never should have had.

we wuz Alexander the Great and sheeet

We're irrelevant 2 million people..

"Czechoslovakia" was the original meme county that didn't really work for anyone who lived there

The attacks were documented in polish media as well as German, British and American

Getting involved in WW1 was a mistake without Britain WW1 was going to be a quick German victory and Britain would of been better off without going in unprepared like they did. We lost our empire because of WW1

That did help everyone

It stopped the war, at least temporarily

>"Czechoslovakia" was the original meme county that didn't really work for anyone who lived there

it was similar to Switzerland, Germans were well represented and many Sudetendeutsche
fought in the Republikschutz and later in the Allied Czech armies against NS-Germany.

youtube.com/watch?v=AvQMjamGjI8

>The attacks were documented in polish media as well as German, British and American

no such attacks were "documented" there just were unconfirmed reports. Documented means proven, yet no figures and names were published.

>Getting involved in WW1 was a mistake without Britain WW1 was going to be a quick German victory and Britain would of been better off without going in unprepared like they did. We lost our empire because of WW1

GB could not tolerate a German hegemony over Europe, at least not back then. If you don't Brexist you officially lost WW1 and WW2.

Kaiser Wilhelm II to Karl von Eisendecher, German vice-admiral and diplomat, Dec. 12, 1912

„England könne es nicht dulden, daß Deutschland die Vormacht des Kontinents werde und d[ies]er unter seiner Führung sich vereinige!! Skrupellos, roh und englisch! […] Es ist eine moralische Kriegserklärung an uns. Meine Instanzen sind alle informiert und militärisch gilt für die Vorbereitungen [zum großen Krieg] England jetzt als unser Feind. […] Damit ist Marschalls Arbeit und Lichnowskys Mission à limine bereits erledigt. Denn beider Auftrag war, die Neutralität Englands uns jedenfalls für den Konfliktfall mit Rußland-Frankreich zu sichern […]. [Als Gegenmaßnahmen verordnete der Kaiser zudem] mehr Schiffe und Soldaten […], denn es geht um unsere Existenz […]: Hier geht England kaltblütig im Kampfe der Germanen gegen die Slavische [sic!] Überflutung gegen ihre eigene Rasse! Militärisch ziehen wir bereits die Kosequenzen und machen uns auf alles gefaßt“
(PA3, Nachlass Eisendecher, Nr 1/1-7: Wilhelm II. an Eisendecher, 12.12.1912.)

translation on pt.2

>GB didn't start the war though.
no, the UK did suddenly sign a mutual protection treaty with Poland 1 month before Polish partisans reportedly attacked German positions all along the border resulting in the invasion and annexation of Poland. The Soviet Union also attacked Poland and yet the UK didn't declare war upon them...

The British planned for and cajoled the Polish into acting aggressive with the Germans in order to cause another defeat on Germany and strengthen their Empire. The result was that they lost everything and were responsible for the destruction of western Europe.

You are a cunt.

"England could not tolerate Germany becoming the continental hegemon and uniting it under its leadership! Ruthless, rough and English! [...] It is a moral declaration of war against us. My instances are all informed and militarily preparations taking effect [for the great war] England is now our enemy. [...] Therefor Marschall's work and Lichnowsky's mission already end on the threshold. Because both their order was to ensure England's neutrality in our favour at least in the case of conflict with Russia, France. [...] [As counter measure the Kaiser moreover enacts more ships and more soldiers [...], because its about our existence. In this fight of the Germanics against the Slavic flood, England coldbloodedly goes against its own race! Militarily we draw the conclusions already, and prepare for everything."

Nice memes. Enjoy becoming a minority and having your TV encourage your daughter to racemix.

i want off this ride
you are driving me to the edgy user, all of youu

>it was similar to Switzerland, Germans were well represented and many Sudetendeutsche

Apparently not since they were ecstatic and lived better lives in NS Germany, at least in the peace years.

>many Sudetendeutsche
fought in the Republikschutz and later in the Allied Czech armies against NS-Germany.

Your outlier statistics are irrelevant, "many" Russians and Jews fought with the nazis as well

>Implying anyone gave a fuck about filthy Pollacks.

>no, the UK did suddenly sign a mutual protection treaty with Poland 1 month before Polish partisans reportedly attacked German positions all along the border resulting in the invasion and annexation of Poland. The Soviet Union also attacked Poland and yet the UK didn't declare war upon them...

you mixed up something here, it were German secret service Selbstschutz units operating in Poland. GB made that treaty with Poland to prevent another war after Hitler broke the Munich Agreement. The treaty only was valid in case of a German aggression, the Polish Eastern border beyond the Curzon ricver was not internationally recognized,

ARTICLE I.

Should one of the Contracting Parties become engaged in hostilities with a European Power in consequence of aggression by the latter against that Contracting Party, the other Contracting Party will at once give the Contracting Party engaged in hostilities all the support and assistance in its power.

1. (a) By the expression "a European Power" employed in the Agreement is to be understood Germany. (b) In the event of action within the meaning of Article 1 or 2 of the Agreement by a European Power other than Germany, the Contracting Parties will consult together on the measures to be taken in common.

en.wikisource.org/wiki/Agreement_of_Mutual_Assistance_between_the_United_Kingdom_and_Poland-London_(1939)

>The British planned for and cajoled the Polish into acting aggressive with the Germans in order to cause another defeat on Germany and strengthen their Empire. The result was that they lost everything and were responsible for the destruction of western Europe.

if it had been that way, why didn't they simply invade Germany when it only had a 100k man army? The Brits even withdrew their army of the Rhine 10 years ahead schedule.

>You are a cunt.

It is plain to see who is poor and pathetic here.