Alright Sup Forums...

Alright Sup Forums, explain to me how letting Europe/the West (ie the most resourcefull countries in the world) get invaded by Islam, a religion that wants nothing more than nuking Israel and behead all jews, fits within their conspiratory agenda.

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becuase we are tolerant.

???

Why would the Jew want that though?

Jews number one aim is to prevent another holocaust - real or imagined - if it takes the destruction of the White race to do it, they are fine with that,

Jews don't actually consider kebabs to be a real threat. Their first priority is the destruction of European civilization.

But surely the elites that even have the power to influence events on the scale we're talking about must know the holocaust didn't actually happen, and that even if it did it's much easier to prevent and guilt the whites into never doing it again (and indeed they have) than deal with the muslims who are pretty determined to eliminate them.

If we were talkingabout regular niggers it'd be pretty easy to figure out because they're just easy to control lazy monkeys who won't rebel as long as you distract them with shiny objects, welfare and narcotics, making them a more desirable society to enslave than whites, who actually have the potential power to throw them off and subjugate them. But why Islam? I don't get it.


And for the record, I WANT to get it.

But Muslims would be the first in line to create 6 million bars of soap, you dolt.

Ok, but what's the end-game then?

Let's say Islam takes over the whole western world becoming a 80+% of the population in Europe and NA. What do they do then? Do they expect Muslims to NOT attempt to kill them anymore? Do they think they can manipulate them into NOT nuking Israel and slaughter all the bankers and jewish elites?

Antisemitism is pretty deeply rooted in Islam, and they've shown to be very loyal to their religion. What's the actual plan?

>deal with the muslims who are pretty determined to eliminate them.

Biggest jewlie of them all.

'Tiny' Israel borders Egypt with 80 million arabs who hate them according to you, yet nothing happens,

Why is that?

They are not actually opposed to each other. The arab/jew wars were actually minor and muslims see a bigger prize in taking Europe with the help of the jews.

muslims and jews are basically allies.

The Jews will use American of Israeli military power to seize the French and British nukes before the caliphate takes over. At which point the population of Western Europe will be primarily composed of low IQ kebab subhumans, and European civilization will regress into one of bronze age goat farmers, becoming no threat to the Jews

Wait, but you can't have it both ways.

You can't say "oh they're actually not that big of enemies and would rather work together to destroy us and Israel isn't actually in that big of a threat" but then blame the Jews for shit like 9/11 on the basis of them using it as pretext to make america fight against the enemies of Israel on the middle east (ie radical Islamic countries like Iraq)

Nice dubs.

But then thay'd have destroyed Europe and made it completely worthless.

What are they taking over then?

North America? Isn't the plan supposedly to control the world's wealth and not to make it disappear?

portugalbro, you are being tricked by the echos of this chamber. the jew is a meme for a force that is behind something. it isn't actuallly a jew, although this doesn't diminish this delusion. Certain people need the jewish conspiracy to help make sense of their world and the systemic qualities of it. They use the jew figure as an force behind the curtain that enables them to acknowledge that there is something there but without overwhelming them about the complexities of what is actually there.

It's a layman theory of global systems. Communists and socialists are on the other side of this 'coin' of alienation. They view capitalism is the cause of all that is bad and go overboard trying to connect everything to the evils of this capitalistic system.

Also, both commies and these conspiratorial nuts, they engage in a lot of effort of connecting, trying to shore up and always attribute all the ills to their respective boogieman. neither perspectives does anything to appreciate nuances, multiplicity, and the complexity of a trillion interacting parts.

>You can't say "oh they're actually not that big of enemies and would rather work together to destroy us and Israel isn't actually in that big of a threat" but then blame the Jews for shit like 9/11 on the basis of them using it as pretext to make america fight against the enemies of Israel on the middle east (ie radical Islamic countries like Iraq)

I don't necessarily think that the Jews did 9/11, but they did press the U.S into attacking Iraq. Just because they don't necessarily NEED America to fight their wars, doesn't mean that they wouldn't prefer Americans to die in the place in place of Jews.

>What are they taking over then?

None of it makes sense from a rational perspective. It is just genocidal Semitic hate. They want European civilization wiped out, whatever the costs.

Aren't we supposed to be better than that though?

Aren't we supposed to be redpilled?

Red pilled, blue pilled, you still want to find the truth in a fictional matrix universe. The truth is helluva complex. Contemporary political science has abandoned notions of great systemic forces in play because if you accept that they exist, confirmation bias tends to paint everything pointing to their existence. The way forward is specific histories.

Nice dubs again.

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I don't necessarily think that the Jews did 9/11, but they did press the U.S into attacking Iraq. Just because they don't necessarily NEED America to fight their wars, doesn't mean that they wouldn't prefer Americans to die in the place in place of Jews.

But that's the point. Why would they want the americans to kill their enemies, when you are telling me they aren't that big of enemies to begin with? Why not trick america to fight Europe instead?

>None of it makes sense from a rational perspective. It is just genocidal Semitic hate. They want European civilization wiped out, whatever the costs

It's hard for me to buy that there is these manipulative, scheming super elite that has successfully infiltrated all the powerfull inrastructures of the modern world yet they haven't really thought this out and act on irrational impulse that overrides basic self-preservation instincts.

In the end jews don't care about anything other than mindless destruction. They are just as violent and savage as their god.

>The truth is helluva complex.

I totally disagree.

There's this saying on the science circles that if you can't explain the core idea of a scientific theory in a paragraph you just don't understand it well enough.

I fully believe this, and believe it extends to everything.

The truth is always simple. It can be nuanced and not pleasent, but it's always simple. I believe people who say that it's complex use it either as an excuse to not put the effort to understand or dig deeper, use it as a way to dismiss the person asking because they don't know or don't want to reveal, or are trying to manipulate the person asking.

So on one hand these people are control freaks who try their best to take full control of everything and everyone, forming alliegances and partnerships amongst themselves to accomplish this, but they also want nothing but chaos and mindless destruction? Like it's their end goal, even if it means their own destruction?

For what purpose? Do you really believe this?

>one paragraph

that's utterly bullshit. In the sciences, they can acknowledge how difficult and counter-intuitive truths are. Quantum mechanics, even biological observations, they require much work and experimentation. The world is a complex system with multiple simultaneous layers function at any given point in reality. The truth is never simple and theories have the same fault of trying to impose a systemic explanation until reality disagree with it. To understand political systems, you can't impose your reality upon it. You have to go through the empirical approach. Red pill, blue pill, you are still playing in a matrix fanfiction. Epistemologically, neither 'pills' are distinct.

>But that's the point. Why would they want the americans to kill their enemies, when you are telling me they aren't that big of enemies to begin with? Why not trick america to fight Europe instead?

American Jews tried to help Israel in any way they thought possible. They saw an opportunity to make American attack Iraq and they took it. Many Israelis were actually worried that this could backfire, they didn't want to risk getting hit with biological weapons, but American Jews were confident that they could safely eliminate Saddam, they were right.

>It's hard for me to buy that there is these manipulative, scheming super elite that has successfully infiltrated all the powerfull inrastructures of the modern world yet they haven't really thought this out and act on irrational impulse that overrides basic self-preservation instincts.

I agree. In many ways Jews are extremely stupid and irrational. But it is what it is. They don't have to be perfect, they just have to be smarter than us, which they appear to be the case.

and thats the problem

Balfour declaration was a real success, right? You guys are so sadly delusional. If you think it is a jews who are behind this, you will find yourself wasting time solving the wrong problem.

EU faces 3 problems.
>rise of unsecurable boarder because different nations contribute differently to security.
>continued of a need of cheap labour within the EU market. Poland, the eastern european countries were supposed to supply this labour and thus was allowed into the EU labour markets but this isn't enough.
>inability of the EU to govern collectively

all 3 of these things contribute more to your migration crisis then muh jews.

See pic related.

It sets up the laws needed to crush Europes indigenous population, then the real genocide begins as literally millions of ghouls will pour in from Africa and legislation will prevent any resistance and if it gets violent the military will kill EUROPEANS.

It also forces the clueless common Jews to return to isreal.

Islam is a meme to create a very specific situation, please read the pic carefully. The elite kikes know what they are doing.

any source for this? or you just taking out of your ass like most of Sup Forumsacks?

Its bullshit OP.

Just like the claims that the jews controlled communism AND are in control of all the capitalist banks.
because they just wanted to fake a cold war for decades. right..

>American Jews tried to help Israel in any way they thought possible. They saw an opportunity to make American attack Iraq and they took it. Many Israelis were actually worried that this could backfire, they didn't want to risk getting hit with biological weapons, but American Jews were confident that they could safely eliminate Saddam, they were right.


This goes against how those israelis said going into Iraq would destabilize the region. The neo-cons went into Iraq because they felt they could reshape and re-anchor american power through the exportation of democracy. This was an utter failure. Throughout the 50s to 00s, one of the most researched topics in political science was the question about what makes democracies stick. The israelis were afraid of iraq turning into somalia, because the devil you know is better than the devil you don't.

again, this is the problem with the overarching jewish conspiracy. instead of acknowledging that iraq represented a failure of understanding culture and society, we are trying our darnest to see it as part of an expansionist zionism. Israel would rather have Assad in syria, then what the kingdom of saud has cooked up.

Israel is one of 3 powers in the region.

>Just like the claims that the jews controlled communism AND are in control of all the capitalist banks.
but that's not even a disputable. it's fact. the only point of dispute is whether it was part of an organized conspiracy or not.

I may have explaind myself poorly.

I'm not saying those theories aren't complex, just that at a base level they can be understood by most regular people in a simple way.

I can explain the theory of evolution in a paragraph in away you understand what it means, even though there's a lot more to it than that, and you would not be a qualified evolutionary biologist or whatever by knowing just that. Counter-intuitive doesn't means more complex.

Anyway this is besides the point and won't get us anywhere for the purposes of this thread.

I tend to agree more with these type of simple, rational explanations, but for example, native europeans have a ton of unemployment right now. Why would they need to import foreign peoples to do jobs any european can do?

Oh yeah, uhm, this is the curriculum of intro to IR programs.

Because Muslims are stupid and brutal which makes them easy to manipulate as jews have been doing for a long time. Add in jews love shedding their crocodile tears and Israel wants more jews making aliyah. Ultimately though it's mostly a consequence of jews deconstructing the white christain culture.

Half baked thinking and blowback. Very few jews are on board with the islamification of Europe, but the people they've brainwashed are fully behind it because they never overtly accepted that protecting jews is what they were being trained for. The same blowback was seen when college kids started protesting Israel's treatment of Palestinians recently. At a college local to me a Jewish professor got in some girls face who was demonstrating, and it's like hello you're the one who taught her dumb ass to think this way.

This still doesn't make sence of the fact that they will be destroying a wealthy society THEY ALREADY CONTROL, presumably. Plus they'll be replacing the muh more reasonable, tolerant and peacefull native population with violent mongoloids who presumably hate their guts.

I get the whole conspiracy, the pieces, but what is the endgame for them in this theory?

>Destroy europe and european civilization.

Ok, but for what purpose?

I don't think you appreciate how complex some fields of science are, and counter-intuitive does increase the complexity of things. There are grade school explanations about evolution that, if one wants to use to functionally understand and explore the world, they will find useless and there are explanations one become acquainted through many years of training.

>why import
Labor costs. It is to reduce labor costs of menial labor. This is the sole driver of expanding the EU. Like, why include Bulgarians, and Romanians to the union? Cheap labour. Why mexicans are living illegal in the US? Wage depression. Why is canada importing temporary workers from mexico to work on farms? Cheap labour.

EU has to also compete with the ONLY country in the world that has the perfect balance between skilled labour and unskilled labour, and where there is so no social contract for those who are unskilled. In china, the rural peasants work in factories in the city, they lose their resident permits to live in those cities if they can't work there and other peasants fill in their place.

But that's not even a conspiracy, they DO control all the banks and most of the world's wealth.

They are undeniably rats, that's a given, I'm just unsure as to the whole globalist conspiracy.

There isn't really an endgame, just mysticism to cover up that they act out of spite and uncontrollable greed.

>Islamisation of europe

No one in europe is for it. Not even the folks we call cucks. Only the muslims are they themselves for it. The cucks are under a dangerous delusion that if we bring them in, they will magically stop becoming these nutty muslims. These cucks believe that the nutty muslims are the way they are because they are a product of oppressive societies and states but they never connect the dots as to who makes those societies oppressive.

lol

you lost all credibility. jews controlling both communism, and capitalism. holy shit, talk about occam's razor.

>The israelis were afraid of iraq turning into somalia, because the devil you know is better than the devil you don't.
>Israel would rather have Assad in syria, then what the kingdom of saud has cooked up.

This is completely wrong. Israelis would strongly prefer that all of the surrounding nations were lawless tribal hellscapes rather than powerful centralized states. States have airforces and international diplomatic representation, lawless "failed state" regions can be bombed with impunity and have their territory annexed without legal recourse. The destabilization of the middle east has greatly benefited Israel, they are effectively the only remaining functional state in the region.

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/1404673/Sharon-urges-America-to-bring-down-Saddam.html

jpost.com/printarticle.aspx?id=393862

First time on Sup Forums here, not surprised this is the first thread I see.

I just don't get all the Jew hate, and a lot of it has even leaked out to other boards. Like, I understand the dislike of Israel's policies, and I understand that Israel has a pretty big effect on American foreign policy. I understand resenting the influence that Zionists have on Congress. What I don't understand is the massive hatred of anyone who is Jewish and that idea that they are all in on some plan to destroy the West. It just makes no sense to me. From the ones I've met they don't seem to care about that sort of thing, they really don't seem like the kind of people to go to secret meetings and plot our destruction.

That's what I think too. This whole immigrant wave thing isn't about the refugees or anything, the powerfull just want the cheap labor.

But we have minimum wages here that even the immigrants have to be paid. And there's plenty of europeans willing to do those jobs for that wage. I don't totally buy that to be the sole reason because we have people unemployed willing to work for the same wage. Unless they plan on lowering the minimum wage when the supply of low wage workers becomes too much in which case this whole thing comes down to a simple case of us needing heroes like Mr. Farage.

What m8?

They control both EU's and NA's central banks. That's the vast majority of the world's wealth and power right there.

This isn't rocket science.

ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3444393,00.html

israel told US and bush that Saddam isn't the enemy, iran is and destablizing the region wasn't a good idea.

Also, also, israel has about 8million people surrounded by arabs. You are telling me that israel wants ISIS style attacks. Attacks from the air can't do shit against a target that moves and bombing non-combatants makes the security situation so much worse. Sharon had to support the war to support bush for trades. Canada also supported the afghanistan war because our PM made a deal at the time to keep canada out of Iraq without trade punshiments.

You are surprisingly really wrong. The defeat of Saddam was a ONLY a win for Saudi Arabia. Wait until trump unclassified the 9/11 papers. Saudi Arabia foreign policy is ruling islam and using it as a strategic force.

>muslims and jews are basically allies.
Nice narrative. Will use it IRL to trigger roaches.

then explain why they were hated for the entire of civilization before 2000 years ago and why they were deported from over 200 countries

Because in order for them to rule they must make the goyim into rootless cattle.

In a society with no identity, particularly ethnic, and no in group preference those who are loyal to thier tribe do best. Given enough time the USA could be Amish-land for example.

The jew can rule over tget goyim for 10,000 years this way, it's conquest by subversion and I would have thought the pic made it fucking obvious.

They start with white nations as they have the sword of Damocles over their heads in holocaust guilt, you also dont conquer the goyim by subverting the weakest; how can you conquer the world by subverting Africa?

You take out the strongest first, infect them and use them.

Fgs you need to think like a virus, not a warrior. C'mon work it out lad.

because success breeds jealousy, goy

Ex-Jew here.

College campuses and anti-white organizations are also tools of the Jews and their plot to indoctrinate the Western world. Cultural marxism is the other side of the coin of Zionism. They're polar opposites, but they work together to put the white man at risk for their expulsion, as well as the fellow "underprivileged" as a retaliation against the Holocaust. It's been going on for nearly 70 years now.

You would think, that being born into this, that I'd not be aware of what degeneracy people around me would be plotting? Oh, I've lived ALL AROUND IT.

Believe it or not, Jews deserve every bit of hatred here. All of them are shit, including myself. I'd be more than willing to submit to the anti-NWO resistance if I damn well pleased.

>B-but some Israeli officials wanted American to attack Iran instead

Yeah, well they can't get everything that they want.

>You are telling me that israel wants ISIS style attacks.

Israel has massive walls and has not accepted a single refugee. Besides, yes, Israel would prefer a few ISIS style attacks to a another land invasion by organized Arab armies.

you are confusing the powerful with yourself. You want cheap labour. The cost of labor maybe artificially high in EU. Also I bet a lot of you folks won't settle for jobs who do not have regular wage increases and, just because now the economic climate is bad, it doesn't mean you won't ask for higher wages when things get better. Poverty is relative. Those migrants will accept less.

>jews control central banks

no, no no. That's really really wrong. I don't think you know what central banks do or what they are. It is very complex. I would imagine rocket science is much much less complex than dealing with monetary and capital flows. The US made a mistake with free market principles, congress wanted to see that. Your country was forced to buy into derivative markets because your labour force isn't productive and your leaders subsided your development, trying to catch up to the qualify of life germany/france/uk had through debt. Lets not forget what PIGS stand for: portugal, ireland, greece and spain. The formula of defeat in those countries were populists leaders spending more then they can afford to buy off voters.

you guys helplessly invested in securities you shouldn't have. you guys did this because you need to solve a pension crisis. you do not have enough people paying into the pension system to fund the life of the pensioners who will be on it.

"succes" just counting the last century

Basically from a historical perspective they have a habit of trying to take over powerfull economies from the inside and make great fortunes without actually contributing to societies. They invented interest and usury for example. They are responsible for the central bank meme that ensures your nation will inevitably fall into uncontrollable debt because every single unit of currency it loans has an inherent interest attached to it.

They also only hire their own, so over time they are bound to be over-represented in positions of power.

TL;DR they are vermin and no one really likes them.

>success

Being backstabbing rats only works for so long. Where will jews run after jewing the world?

>we have minimum wages here that even the immigrants have to be paid.
Laws can be changed

>comes down to a simple case of us needing heroes like Mr. Farage
Thats it. We are being played by a corrupt alliance of capitalists and bureaucrats. I hate marxist scum, but they pretty much got that right.

Still Iam calling it the jews and use it to fuel hate against mudshit, for other reasons ;^)

But if they want to make us to have as little in-group preference as possible to make it easier to control why import an expansionist culture with very, very strong in-group preference. Overtime ISlam would become the norm in Europe and then they'd go after the Jews, no?

You need to understand WWI, WWII, and the bolshevik revolution in order to understand why we are all pretty suspicious of zionist Jews.

'Adolf Hitler: the greatest story never told' is a good starting point.

It's a tough red pill to swallow, but you don't need to believe all of it. Just give the documentary a fair chance.

youtube.com/watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g

israel has walls around the west bank and gaza. The cost of walls is very expensive. Israel is literally surrounded. ISIS grew incredibly due to the security vacuum in Iraq. I don't think your pea brain gets it: israeli generals, or any military officer, will tell you that enemies adapt and learn and they know too well that is a cost in gearing society constantly towards war. Asymmetric threats is a real problem. I feel like I am talking to an idiot here, but seriously, ISIS style attacks, would be a threat to israel.

You are literally a self-hating cuck.

There's nothing wrong with a jewish person fighting against the rotten jewish culture, in fact I wish him luck.

part 1/27 6 hour video
kill me

AustriaBro, at least you are honest about the jews. But the marxist are wrong. Your governments have to deal with a new rising power, one that doesn't play by the rules, has no conception of human rights and one that is angry as fuck because of perceived historical injustices.

Without having this trans-generational impoverished population that doesn't have as much social mobility within your society, you cannot unlock other more valuable economic activity that menial labour enables. Like in china, the dorm-suciding peasants enabled mindless manufacturing that then brought firms to service the manufactures, like equipment producers and engineering for processes. there are all these secondary and tertiary industries that goes to in hand with menial work.

nice dubs, but red pill fanfiction is still fanfiction.

Trust me, We have a lot of people who will do the hellish jobs for low-wages already. And the poorer parts of Eurpe, like Portugal don't have a culture of asking for raises, so I don't think that'd be a problem. Now if you use the argument that by flooding the workforce with low wage workers you can easily raise the minimum wage by simple Supply/demand logic, I'm inclined to agree with you.


The second part doesn't seem to be related to what I said about them controlling the central banks and major corporations and media, although it is not incorrect.

>israel has walls around the west bank and gaza. The cost of walls is very expensive.

Oy vey, it's a good thing that America gives you kikes billions in military aid.

>Israel is literally surrounded.

Because you founded a country in the middle of the Islamic world.

>I feel like I am talking to an idiot here, but seriously, ISIS style attacks, would be a threat to israel.

Israel is a major backer of ISIS, ISIS has never threatened Israel.

But is that what you want? A former Jew, finally red pilled the right way and fully aware of how much disgusting things other Jews have done?

Or would you rather have me dead. Either or is fine by me. I don't see much purpose to life itself being a part of the problem by my genes alone.

Itsssss eeeeppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiic.

> Occam's razor

Let's put it to the test. What if I ask you how to destroy an enemy nation? You'd probably just invade and crush them, right? Not very effective nor efficient (for obvious reasons).

I'd set people up against each other (religion, class, etc.. are good means), then fund both sides and ensure escalation gains momentum to full-blown civil war. After enjoying the carnage and chaos, the enemy has destroyed its own nation. Easy and cheap.

> but muh simplest explanation is best
It breaks down completely when it comes to war.

> All war is based on deception. -Sun Tzu
> Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of your opponents fate. -Sun Tzu

Hate their practices then, not your own ethnicity. If your people have a dishonorable legacy, disown it and Make it great again (or for once).

the second part is related to the question of banks. They do not control the banks. The banks are an apparatus of the state. The banks have to deal with very complicated things but they are basically creditors to the state, they are state's lender. The jews aren't controlling shit at the central bank level. It is your politicians who abused global markets to finance dreams of your people that aren't realistically possible. You did it with debt. You, or anyone in portugal who voted for the politican that promised better social welfare and services, did it. Not the 'jews'. The fault lies with Portuguese man who wanted to pretend they were britian or france or uk.

>nice dubs, but red pill fanfiction is still fanfiction.

It seems to be well researched.

What specific problems do you have with it. If too many talk about the biggest ones and justify please.

Thanks, I wish there were more former Jews like myself. I have to give you guys credit for being consistent in repeating our problems. The amount of covering up some of them do disgusts me.

I didn't want it to be this way, but that's just the way it is.

> conspiratorial fag detected

>let me misunderstand what occam's razor means by suggesting the most convoluted explanation and telling you empirical evidence is a deception.

oh wow.

Stop being a faggot.

No one owns you. Your genes don't own you.

But you should be telling that to other Jews, not just myself.

See, while I hate myself for being Jewish, I at least am willing to make myself great if I could. But unfortunately, I too have to deal with my Jewish past and perhaps some of the lies I've been fed.

I'm not kidding, when I found out all of this, I immediately began changing for you guys and more than willing to help you guys further expose our degeneracy for what it is.

Every ethnicity sucks to some degree, and there will always be the few that have looked at themselves and their people and acknowledged the problems most are happy to over look for their petty lives. It's a lonely position to find yourself in, but few understand the problem like you do putting you in a very auspicious place if you can manage to reach out and influence people. Even here online if not in person. If you can overcome you will be a leader of your people.

Not anymore so than a fanfiction which must constantly always attribute things to certain factors. It is no more a real description of the world than marxism. Replace the evils of capitalism with the evils of the jew.

like, come on:
>jews controlled the central banks and that's why we are experiencing our crisis now

vs
>our political leaders overpromised to get elected and abused our central banks to accumulate debt to pay things we can't afford. They did this instead of tackling the real problems of development like economic activity and productivity by fooling us into thinking that if we got health services like england, it means we caught up.

Well we're on Sup Forums, people here love their identity politics. I fucking hate them to death, I wish they'd all die, but tell that to the Eugenics people.

I'm not gonna play oppressed child, but sometimes just being reminded I'm scum here, on a place where I share the same political mindset of, is not easy as I think it is. Of course I could man up and get over it, but you know, it's rather difficult seeing that the "Sup Forums is satire" meme died in 2014 or so.

I know what occam's razor prescribes. Tell me, which of those two ways would to an outsider seem like the explanation with the fewest assumptions?

Pic related.

>conspiratorial fag detected

kikes don't even hide their support for ISIS anymore

timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/

I totally agree with you on that for sure, especially over here people abuse the shit out of the system for their personal benefit all of the time, I'm not proud of that I can tell you that.

But none of this changes the fact that at the end of the day the money is still falling into JEw pockets, and whether or not they do it, the fact is that they HAVE the power to inlfuence what you hear and what you think by controlling the media. That is too much power for such a small minority.

The thing is, I don't want to identify as ANYTHING but just myself and everything I believe in.

But I generally agree with a lot of what Sup Forums thinks where at the same time, I tend to disagree with some of the things that somehow coincide with either Zionism or cultural marxism, which implies I'm not extremely anti-Semitic as you guys may want me to be.

For example, I embrace being educated. I embrace being well-off, I don't mind multiculturalism if the people moving to my country are willing to integrate and come here legally, I'm definitely pro-Israel because Hamas and Hezbollah are detestable terrorist organizations that are part of the savage Islamist culture.

But I do think that religion is shit and it's the root of all evil, if I had to pick any religion to appreciate though, it'd be Odinism. Was an atheist, but I'd rather not associate myself with fedora tipping neckbeards and commie degenerates.

You are doing it all wrong.

We don't have to do shit, you are the ones who have to police yourselves.

You don't have to deal with jack shit. What your ancestors did happened and there's nothing you or anyone can do about it, just move on and be great.

You shouldn't change for anyone but yourself. Change because it's what you feel is right, not because some fucktard on Sup Forums persuades you.

But I totally agree with indoctrination/control of the banks. That's what I wish we'd become aware of so we could realize what we're doing to you guys. It sickens me too, don't worry.

You will never escape your heritage, for better or worse, it is at the foundation of who you are.

Occam's razor isn't about the fewest assumptions. Again, I shouldn't expect an idiot to understand what these tools of science actually entails.

The explanation to that which meets occam's razor is the history. The assad regime couldn't deal with the economic downturn and they couldn't resort to the strategies they used in the past where they used to seige whole communities that were protesting or uprising. This led to the collapse of the social contract and the west was belligerent towards Assad. People left the army, formed the free syrian army. other actors came in. The kurds were always there but always succesfully repressed by assad, turkey and saddam. kurds were independent in iraq.


>timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/

>all syrian rebels are now isis
ok

there are many many actors in syria. you have al qaeda, isis, syrian rebels, iranian militias, syrian army, kurds.

I was talking about the movie.

It merely presented the rational behind Hitler's and Germany's actions, and didn't seem to have anything factually incorrect. The fact is the central banking system WAS flawed, at least as it was used. And wether you agree with blaming the Jews for it or not at the end of the day Hitler did nothing wrong by wanting to deport them, maybe disagreeable, but not necessarilly wrong or evil.

Again, you keep mentioning jews but you are willing to admit to everything I stated. Where are the jews in the picture? The jew pockets? Dude, the money fell into your pockets. Your politicians sold you shit and that money which fell into your pockets doesn't exist. It was borrowed, it was lent to you buy those who put money and invested into whatever investment instruments that your central bank used to finance that debt. It was YOU who STOLE from you THROUGH your central bank BECAUSE you are stupid enough to want what you CANNOT afford.

The whole era of consumption in Portugal was financed by debt. A whole era that funded jobs, jobs which can't be maintained because they were funded with debt. Infrastructure spending, debt. None of it went into innovation. It is your fault, but the fact that you cannot see it, that's what allowed the politicians to drive you there.

I'm not gonna be pep talking you but just to finish this side topic: grow some balls and stop getting offended by what some people you never met and will never meet say on the internet. You sound like a fucking redditor or something. You know what you stand for so what people say shouldn't matter. Look, if it makes it easier just mentally filter the world "Jew" with the economic and political values Sup Forums commonly associates with them(which you don'tsubscribe to) instead of the actual race. There, problem solved, enjoy your stay.

>there are many many actors in syria. you have al qaeda, isis, syrian rebels, iranian militias, syrian army, kurds.

B-but I thought that Israel wanted stability in Syria? Why would they be supporting various rebel factions that are tearing the country apart?

Nice explanation. Too bad it is limited solely to Syria's domestic situation. So much for history when you're viewing it through a fucking microscope.

I'll give you one of the many clues for free:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline

wages in portugal need to go down. look at this bullshit: tradingeconomics.com/portugal/government-spending-to-gdp

the problem with people wanting to work is that there is a difference between desire and capability/capacity. There is probably not enough or not the proper economic activity to enable more employment in Portugal.

The key word there is debt.

Seriously, for someone who keeps calling other idiots you have a talent for missing the point. WE may have borrowed money WE couldn't afford, but at some point WE have to pay it back to THEM, with INTEREST, which is what is completely fucking up our economy and compromising our sovereignty.

Sure it was our mistake, not denying that, but the Jew knew from the baggining he was entering a no-lose situation and that eventually he was getting his sheckels.

>microscopic picture of a pipeline
wow

the domestic situation in syria played a huge role that led to the collapse of the state apparatus. I don't think you even took a first year course on political theory. But you know that there is a connection between state sovereignty and capacity?

Because Iran has their own skin in the game. Saudi arabia also has their own skin in the game. So does the kurds.

What does that have to the post you replied to?

because islam is a dumb opponent, predictable and easy to control

and it's not about the religion, it's about erasing white people

kill every jew before they kill you

>Seriously, for someone who keeps calling other idiots you have a talent for missing the point. WE may have borrowed money WE couldn't afford, but at some point WE have to pay it back to THEM, with INTEREST, which is what is completely fucking up our economy and compromising our sovereignty.

wrong.

The notion of sovereign debt is complex and what debt does to an economy. Your economy created a deficit that you owe to yourself. Even if your sovereign debt was forgiven today, Portugal wouldn't be any better off. It would be catastrophic to the rest of the world, but portugal wouldn't be any better off. I don't know how much you know about economics, but capital expenditures depreciate. and there is something called opportunity costs.

The fact is this: what you had before cannot be had again. You need to go back to being the Portugal of 1997.

>Because Iran has their own skin in the game. Saudi arabia also has their own skin in the game. So does the kurds.

So basically you are admitting that Israel wants to destabilize Syria because it is an ally of Iran. But what about stability? Israel would rather live next to a functional Syrian state that is allied with Iran rather than a stateless warzone, right?

the jews do not like muslims, their middle eastern neighbours or the racial cohession/influence of europe (6 million etc).

**temporarily** secretly sponsoring some muslim hordes (outside israel) aids the three goals above.

the west is turned against islam.

9/11 and subsequent attacks gave america the apparent justification to take out the middle eastern neighbours.

euroe turns brown. no more aryan/anglo trouble.

Essential reads...

A Clean Break - Israels foreign policy master plan.
PNAC - Jew infested body with massive influence.

>direct sandzergs to other countries
>other countries suffer and start to get redpilled about the hazards of multiculturalism of these culturally incompatible beings
>some even form reactionary equally radical factions
>both enemies of Israel feel the bern.

Don't strawman an argument. I said that right now israel needs to play strategically. They would rather live with the Assad regime then with the devil they don't know. Iran is a threat regardless if Iran is next door to israel. Iran is in Lebanon.

I know you don't get how the world works. It's fine. But in the middle east, what we are seeing is a readjustment of regional powers, maybe 4, plus two global powers. If you want to maintain the delusions of a global conspiracy over reason and evidence, and reality, you will maintain your belief regardless of the evidence and history. you will redpill yourself against complex truths in favour of simple narratives.