Why aren't you a vegan yet? There is no justification to not be one

Why aren't you a vegan yet? There is no justification to not be one.
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If we were vegans we wouldn't have left the jungle yet... just look where our cousins (Chimps) are.

why aren't you one NOW?

Vegan Gains DESTROYED Roaming Millenial and Bearing. Facts don't care about your feelings.

i personally just don't give a shit.

i understand it's a healthier option, but as a depressed alcoholic who's planning on killing himself soon anyway, health is one of my last concerns.

i eat fast food nearly every day cos i like the taste

Who the fuck are those faggots

Veal is the best meat

Whats the point?

look them up on YouTube, lazy nigger.

Who would be a vegan when you have these gets

I enjoy eating animals, knowing thousands have died just so i can have a tasty meal brings me joy

Been vegan for over a year actually. You aren't the only one on here.

so says wimpley

Because meat tastes good, and without humans domesticated animals would die out. My taste for chicken ensures the perpetuation of chickens as a species.

Meat may be murder, but veganism is genocide.

Because of my health
Vitamin b12

Inb4 muh supplements...they have be proven to not work
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Kill urself retard!

Meat is meat and a man must eat.

That's why

fuck off

meat is murder? well fuck it, murder tastes good

I lift weights. If I dont eat meat every so often, there is no way I can build enough protein to make gains.
Also, how do you explain canine teeth on humans? We literally are evolved to eat meat if we want to.
Veganism has some health benefits such as avoiding heart disease and certain cancers, but eating meat in moderation (once per week or bi-weekly) will give you more health benefits than if you were to not eat it at all. Not eating meat at all is going to lower the iron in your blood and will turn you into a fatigued skeleton. Literally every vegan I know is a skeleton and gets sick very easily due to their imbalance, malnourished diet. As long as your eating meat or fish in moderation from a humane source/farm which doesn't pack their livestock into tiny cages and pump them full of unnatural hormones and antibiotics, then you're diet is going to be much better than a vegan who simply refuses to eat meat at all.

not an argument

I'm an omnivore and I like the taste of blood.

No arguing. I'll eat butchered animals whether you're right or wrong. Fuck you.

is there justification to eating plants?

How can meat tasting good not be a reason for not being a non meat eating freak?

KYS

kek, this

if you can live your live without eating meat there is no moral justification to eat meat.

you can live without a lot of things you idiot, doesn't mean you're morally obligated to go without.

Because I am not a cow, who's teeth are designed for only eating vegetables. Humans have canine teeth, which are designed for tearing food apart such as meat.

>Morals
Morals don't mean shit when it comes to human dietary requirements, get an education instead of spouting shit on tumblr and 4chins.

the difference is you're contributing to the murder of sentient beings.

Actually, there is the justification - The Earth has been given to us by God, so it's our property and we can do what we want with the whole planet.

watch OP's link and get BTFO.

The moral justification to eat meat is equivalent to the moral justification to eating plants.

Neither plants nor non-people animals have moral standing.

You can't murder a nonhuman you pantywaste.

While trolling is indulged, please attempt to not be so bad at it

Incorrect. Murder only occurs between people. A cow can neither murder nor be murdered.

there are animals that only exist because we breed them to eat them. Without us, they would go extinct because they couldn't survive in the wild.
Meat is murder, veganism is genocide

I did, it was full of shit projection. If you think you're a bad person then good for you. I'll be over here, not thinking about every little thing I do like a god damn psycho.

Because a lot of my favorite Asian dishes contain egg and/or fish.

Of course theres a moral justification

a lot of weak-willed people ITT

Actually, I'm not trolling dude. That's what the most of people believe in, especially the least educated ones. I agree in the point of our property and the clue from it.

and that is?

Pissing off whining self righteous cunts like you who think they're on a moral crusade

Why do you care so much about "gains"? Wouldn't you be just as well off without them? Are your "gains" worth killing for, because that's what's happening?

Including you.

The only vegan argument that holds any weight is the environmental one. If that is your basis for not eating meat however, then any waste of resources is a sign of a weak will. It doesn't get much more wasteful than browsing Sup Forums.

holy shit. even T admitted to getting rekt.

I would kill you for a snickers.
I will kill all cows for 20 inch arms.

Concerned citizens such as yourself would surely pitch in for the preservation of the species. We could have hectare upon hectare of chicken reservations for a fraction of the money now thrown at raising and slaughtering them.

Humans are incapable of photosynthesis (or its chemical equivalent). We must kill to live.

What trait do humans posses that animals don't that allows them to ethically eat meat?

Then why do you care when dogs or cats are tortured?

Or are you such an edgelord that you would claim you don't care at all?

Then you are a bad person.

There's no utility in that. Chickens don't exist on their own like the red junglefowl does, they exist as a food source for mankind. It's a symbiotic relationship that would end if veganism took hold among a majority of the population.

>Or are you such an edgelord that you would claim you don't care at all?
Yep.

Dogs are literally raised as food in some places. The reason humans get emotionally attached to non-human animals is a misfiring of an evolutionary response.

That's a false dichotomy right there.

Even if I weren't lifting weights, I would still eat meat in moderation. Like I said, not eating meat will make you malnourished, skelly, tired, etc.

Why do you think we need some special trait for this?

Our ability to eat meat isn't based on any sort of "superiority".

Don't worry, I already am vegan bro.

Don't see any reason to cause unnessecary suffering for just taste, especially since good options are more and mroe readily avaliable.

And you're a beta bitch.
>It's mean to kill animals
Fuck you. Eating meat is not wrong. You aren't even attacking carnivorous behavior, you're pissed about animal farming.

Why is the suffering of non-people relevant?

So, you're concerned about preserving the species, but only as long as they're useful for something, or what? What kind of concern is that?

Honestly, this always seems like such a weird argument. "We're actually doing them a favor by eating them" sort of thing. Doesn't that strike you as a tiny bit perverse?

For my part, I wouldn't mind chicken species to go extinct if the extinction would mean an end to their suffering. And in any case, you could always preserve the species in zoos etcetera.

Here's the only justification needed: cooked animal flesh tastes good.

There is no scientific evidence of animals being "sentient".
For it to be morally questionable, animals need to be sentient.
The burden of proof is on you for proving the above.
Therefore, there is no moral obligation to refrain from eating meat.
QED

>perverse
adjective
1.showing a deliberate and obstinate desire to behave in a way that is unreasonable or unacceptable.
2.contrary to the accepted or expected standard or practice.
3.sexually perverted.

I do not think that word means what you think it means. Typical that a vegan would be lacking brain cells though.

because who fucking cares, this "growth" in veganism only makes a difference in your little echo chamber community. all your holier than though bullshit and fake posts. I saw loads of you lot congratulating each other on there being less cows slaughtered in 2015, which if you look it up is only because farmers make their cows fatter for more profit, 10% MORE beef was produced that year. And they say 2015 was a "great year for veganism" lol fatter and more mistreated cows.

If animals "have no moral standing", as you claim, that would absolutely be a justified conclusion.

If there are any other factors that make it sensible for you to abhor animal torture on one hand and be perfectly fine with factory farms on the other, please do state them.

It isn't morally questionable even if they are sentient.

Why is it not?

Im already semi-vegan.

I'm not vegan because there's no point in prolonging an ironically fruitless life. If all food tasted the same, there'd be no problem with only eating what was necessary. Not to mention that your diet is limited as fuck just because you're a special snowflake vegan. By being a vegan, you're basically making yourself a burden to your friends and family who feel the need to cater to your self-inflicted needs, since they aren't as masochistic and enjoy eating food that is commonly found.

Have you noticed that you don't see any omnivores running around asking why you don't eat meat? Because they don't give a shit. Keep your shitty diet to yourself.


Also this is b8. Fuck you.

i am an atheist and i do cross fit
i run out of words talking about those

Because I'm not a scrawny faggot

cowspiracy was filled with fake stats and bullshit. Even the people it converted eventually found out and gave it. It's a fad for snowflake martyrs.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Because morality exists to enable social functioning.

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I like meat

because the carbon taxes

I eat vegan Monday to Friday.

Then i eat organic meat in the weekends.

Does that make me anything?

>showing a deliberate and obstinate desire to behave in a way that is unreasonable or unacceptable

This is exactly the sense in which I was using the term, so what's the problem?

Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8 no h8

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>veganism is a mental illness for/by snowflakes
>all vegan food is a poor imitation of normal food
>vegans are a pseudo-cult, like atheism+

>There is no justification to not be one.
death

Consumption of meat is a requirement for evolution of higher level brain function.

Based

Apart from the B-12 issue, the real arguments against veganism are also biological:
Dentition; mix of incisors, canines and molars has evolved from and for an omnivorous diet, including thickness of enamel on molars not supporting a purely herbivorous lifestyle.
Appendix; atrophied secondary stomach means our bodies can no longer digest cellulose.
Eyes; eye placement is that of a predator not that of a prey species.
And those are just the ones that I can list from basic medical and biological knowledge, specialists could probably provide more detailed examples and more of them...

Because that doesn't apply to human dietary requirements. I have to spell it out for you now? Fucking stupid vegans.

I know right?

there is this justification: I don't want to

this is fact. "it only affects me anyway" is fucking bullshit,you are a burden and your friends hate you for it.

half assed faggot. why bother

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also sage

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Why should evolutionary adaptations affect what you eat NOW?

We may have developed as omnivores, but that has little effect on what the individual you can eat right now, from day to day.

It's also a fact that people can survive and thrive on vegetarian or vegan diets (with a B12 supplement, of course), so why should it matter what your teeth are like? Nobody is (or should be) claiming that we're "meant" to eat vegan; just that it's the most ethical and environmentally conscious thing that we can do right now.

>but only as long as they're useful for something
Yes?

Do you think that I'm so delusional as to extend the in-group morality to fucking animals?

>just that it's the most ethical
Which is false.
>environmentally conscious
You know what else is environmentally conscious? Not wasting electricity by browsing Sup Forums.

i like to live

But your brain is already developed.

Do you think it will "evolve" further if you consume meat?

If that's what you think, I don't think you understand evolution very well.

Or do we perhaps have a duty to honor our evolutionary progress?